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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: How good is the MVFC

« on: October 03, 2014, 10:16:09 PM »

If a guy making 30k and a guy making 100k both get bumped up to first class on a plane, its going to appear that the 30k guy is having a better day right?  YSU should probably worry about 1AA ball before FBS football.  Moving up now, especially with the formation of the BIG 5, would be financially disastrous to any teams whose budget is not 15+ million....for just football.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Is there a reason why we don't stunt our LB's on defense?

« on: September 23, 2014, 07:02:27 PM »

Stunts and blitzes make a good pass defense better, and a bad pass defense worse.  Stunts take long to develop leave gaps seams and open routes, Dropping a lineman into coverage is meant to confuse a hurried quarterback.  If you cannot get a rush with 4 or 5 down lineman, you certainly aren't going to get one with 3 or 4.   Those are personnel problems.   Coaching problems are very simple.  Confidence in diagnosing a gameplan.  A stunt twist or blitz the wrong way at the wrong time results in a huge play, its a gamble.  Some coaches are confident in their ability to study film and gamble accordingly.  Coaches without confidence auto-demote themselves to a "bend but dont break" philosophy, vanilla defenses that tackle pretty well, and they hope to hold teams to field goals using a shortened field as a cheat sheet for calling aggressive defensive plays.  Usually this kind of philosophy only works with an offense that can run up the score.  Opposing offenses will start making mistakes to try and catch up.  See Oregon ducks.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Ticket Sales/Attendance

« on: September 23, 2014, 06:54:39 PM »

Too much nostalgia here.  The 70's, 80's and 90's existed in a time when you could watch 3 games on Tv throughout the day, two on Sundays, one on Monday.  Now EVERY game can be seen, all day Saturday and Sunday.  This allows is for people to get their football fix without leaving the comfort of their home, not pay money to be in the elements watching 2nd tier football.   Now I realize that's a sore subject as some think the MVC is the "SEC of FCS football".  To many that's like winning the Superlotto and getting a check for 5 bucks. I'm not saying that an FCS championship is worth 5 bucks, but the majority of causal fans out there think just that.

What sells a football game?  Name recognition?  There is some, but football isn't the first thing that comes to peoples minds when the city of Youngstown is spoken about.  Opposition recognition? very little, 90's Championships? nobody really cares anymore.  Your not gonna put butts in the seats by marching out 20 year old flags.  A flyover wont rattle anybody's windows enough to bring them out from watching Fla. vs Alabama on a 55 inch screen in HD drinking cheaply.  NDSU might win FCS championships hand over fist but ask the majority of fans of college football who they are the majority won't know.  Case in point, how many people know about Mount Union's dominance in division 3?  Not alot.  Alot of regional people don't know about them.

The remedy isn't marketing or nostalgic marches, and it isn't Tressel.  The answer is winning.  You win, you spend more money and you win some more.  Then when the time is right like it was in the 90's, you move up!  Then you spend more money then you win some more, then you move up to a bigger conference.  One that competes for bowl games and national championships. Now you have name recognition, now you have Opposition Recognition, you have nationally recognizable players, you have something to advertise besides 20 year old flags.  The remedy is not being satisfied with the 5 dollar check.  If this is not something an institution is not prepared to do.  Then that team will be hovering in mediocrity.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Montana just showed the blueprint for beating the Bison

« on: September 21, 2014, 03:34:20 PM »

Blunt doesnt mean its wrong.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: How good is the MVFC

« on: September 21, 2014, 03:28:35 PM »

An FBS conference somehow misplaced in the FCS?? thats humorous.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU FOOTBALL SCHEDULE

« on: September 17, 2014, 07:51:25 AM »

As too the comment of the financial end being short-sighted, its actually quite the opposite.  With the formation of the Big 5, in 5-7 years time I-AA football will either be non-existant or DII.  Only the financially prudent will make  it to D-II.  With YSU's current gigantic budgetary short-falls, the last thing the football team needs at this point is over spending.   OR they can spend like crazy the next 5-7 years, not make it, and then YSU will turn into Eastern Gateway.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Wolf's Contract

« on: September 04, 2014, 04:05:15 PM »

Tressel crossing the mahoning is the perfect insinuation as too what the perception is.  Youngstown is a town that wants to be "led out" than change by doing something different.  One could waste time trying to go back to the 90's or they could look forward.  Sure there may be outrage expressed here, but the number of people that loved that print outweighs those that hated it.  As far as Wolf is concerned, and how this forum is damaging...Firstly no "other school"  or "recruit" is reading this message board.  Secondly at some point, somebody is going to have to realize that with the newly formed superFBS, writing their own rules and regs and making GOBS of money.  That mid major DI schools recruiting pool just dried up a bit.  That means low major programs also dried up, which means I-AA's recruiting pool just got very..."interesting".  contract buyouts and Tressel coaching ideas are swabbing the deck on the titanic.   If things don't change from "what YSU used to do"  then they might as well cancel the football program.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU vs Illinois

« on: August 30, 2014, 02:31:13 PM »

Illinois is that bad.  But you cant say YSU isnt playing hard.  although i see that both coaches had no intention of adjusting at halftime.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU vs Illinois

« on: August 30, 2014, 01:12:47 PM »

Running is their best option.  throw the ball with a young rattled qb, That first hit on the penalty ruined him, and throw a bunch of interceptions and have the game really get out of hand.  Or practice pounding the ball agains an NDSU type of line.  Chances are ysu doesnt keep the adrenaline up at the half, and IU, gets a comfortable lead.   Ill give them this, Illinois is a bad football team, but theyre still a big 10 football team, they are playing hard.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: The Year in Review

« on: June 05, 2014, 02:35:17 AM »

Great point IAA maybe its the conference level, or maybe its the lack of coaches, administrators etc. willing to hang around in the low income mid-major schools.  I mean we could all count the coaches that used and continue to use the mid-majors as the stepping stone to get to the better paying jobs.  But that could be the same reason why conferences dont progress, because they cant pay and we all know money is the great equalizer.  If coaches salaries were regulated much like the government institutions they are attached too would we see more parity?  Not saying coaches are the be all and end all,  but they do hire staffs and staffs do the recruiting.    And before i get nasty replys this is an honest question, no political bias to be had, just an OBSERVation.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: The Year in Review

« on: June 04, 2014, 12:32:08 AM »

A paradox.  Some believe YSU can and should strive to be better, and until they assert dominance should not be satisfied with horizon league or any other I-AA mediocrity regardless of major, mid, low or high.  Some believe YSU has a max potential cap and we're either at or close to it, and anything extra is just icing on the cake.  No one really knows for sure which one is the correct answer but consider this.   There is no 1AA or billion dollar tournament with tv contracts in olympic sports.  YSU has an athlete that is currently a Division I all-american, not voted upon by CoSida and whomever else, but purely on performance. A third place one to be exact.  It would seem that in the most obscure event in the most unpopular sport on this forum an athlete has found a way to get it done.  Perhaps the ceiling hasn't been hit, its been removed.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Tressel accepts job as YSU President in principal

« on: May 29, 2014, 01:32:31 PM »

Its pretty clear here, nostalgia of what used to be has thrown a lot of irrational emotion into this argument on both sides.  The key thread however is everybody agrees that he was at fault (in varying degrees) what is not agreed on is whether he has earned that redemption or deserves any.  Especially in a realm where he has no real experience, ie president.  The truth is he will probably rally the YSU troops and make huge steps to save the university, however whatever way he does this will be scrutinized not just by the vidicator but by espn and its Attorney General sports illlustrated.  So the real question is what good is saving the university if you cant bring a regional following to this university.  The outside world thinks this hire is a mistake, now while locally many think what the nation thinks of us means nothing, that is flawed logic, the sad fact is it does.  A college needs attendance to survive, Youngstowns' national visage is a bad one...point blank.  This hire seemingly did not help that.  Tressel has to tread very lightly and openly in order to make this work, and for the good of the talented kids in the area i hope this can happen.  I think the fear is that by bringing in the past, the past will arrive again, Youngstown wasn't much to look at back then besides athletics...and sorry to say DI-AA championships don't boost attendance.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Tressel accepts job as YSU President in principal

« on: May 13, 2014, 12:28:27 PM »

yeah good symbolism there....or it could also be his wanting to stay in a lower tax bracket....33% vs 35%......he better be ready to be the savior.  Hes now more powerful than the mayor.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: The Tressel Movement

« on: May 08, 2014, 05:24:13 PM »

http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/may/08/significant-announcement-coming-university-akron/

it appears we will have an answer soon...

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: The Tressel Movement

« on: April 24, 2014, 05:35:07 PM »

And a YSU finalist today.... fascinating.