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Offline Wick250

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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2014, 03:57:07 PM »
The NCAA currently separates Division I football into only two divisions, FBS and FCS.  Both are badly flawed with, for example, Kent State and Ohio State placed in FBS while Dayton is technically in the same category as NDSU.  After the Power 5 make their own rules this winter, which will include eventually paying their players through a "full cost of attendance" scholarship, do you really think that the NCAA will operate THREE divisions of Division I football?  (Power 5 - the rest of FBS - FCS)  I don't.  The NCAA will continue to offer only two divisions, Power 5 and everybody else.  All those schools who cannot possibly pay their players will come down to us.  We do not have to spend millions going up to them.  And when FCS and the non-Power 5 teams are merged, FCS schools will have the numerical advantage.  Welcome to 63 scholarships, MAC and Sun Belt.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2014, 03:57:35 PM »
NO

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2014, 04:03:58 PM »
We are already division 1.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2014, 04:08:40 PM »
I would love for YSU to move up to 1A.  Frankly I think it would have more appeal then playing in 1AA.  Yes I know FBS and FCS.  Who cares about watching the Dakotas or Indiana State?  Put some half decent 1A team in here and I bet people will come.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2014, 04:33:35 PM »
Those voting yes should leave their names and phone numbers for the fund raising. We will need at least $5 million from you. Every year. Well, not that amount every year. The amount needed will actually go up every year. And, by the way, the $5 million will be just for the privilege of playing in the MAC. Maybe win that prestigious Motor City Bowl berth.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2014, 05:25:15 PM »
Attendance will increase when YSU goes 1a. YSU will be playing Akron, Pitt, Kent, Buffalo, Toledo, Bowling Green, Miami, Ohio U, Cincinnati,  etc.  It is silly to travel thousands of miles to play football in 1aa, when YSU can play entertaining  competition within the state and local region. The fan base will increase, ticket sales will increase, travel cost will decrease, scholarships will cost more. Of course the administrators will need to work harder.  I believe we can contract a 1a coach for close to what the former coach was paid..............Hopefully, the athletic dept saved up some of the funds from the big money games the past several years to pay for the transition to 1a.......

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2014, 05:29:48 PM »
Those voting yes should leave their names and phone numbers for the fund raising. We will need at least $5 million from you. Every year. Well, not that amount every year. The amount needed will actually go up every year. And, by the way, the $5 million will be just for the privilege of playing in the MAC. Maybe win that prestigious Motor City Bowl berth.
Even Jim Tressel will have difficulty in raising $ 5 millions from the donners every year to move us up to FBS. YSU just simply does not have the money right now. Furthermore, the current campus environment would be prohibitive for such a move in any time soon.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2014, 05:51:06 PM »
That is silly,  quality football competition will fill up the  empty seats. Sell  tickets don't give them away,  also concessions, parking  and  season ticket holders revenue would increase. Fans do not want to see the powder puff games in which  YSU has  great stat numbers,  than its down hill in November. Also, if the athletic dept is over staffed time to eliminate and double up positions. The athletic dept surely has a  paid development consultant to entice more funds.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2014, 06:15:53 PM »
Actually, 5 million a year wouldn't even get you in the discussion.   You would have to almost double your current athletic budget to play in the MAC.

$28,955,008   Miami (Oh.) 
$28,654,890   Buffalo 
$27,680,624   Central Michigan
$27,027,550   Ohio 
$26,479,926   Akron 
$25,871,038   Kent State
$25,458,300   Western Michigan 
$23,654,142   Toledo 
$22,644,536   Ball State 
$21,904,184   Eastern Michigan
$21,586,804   Northern Illinois 
$19,326,000   Bowling Green 

http://www.bbstate.com/info/schools-budget

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Re: 1a4YSU
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2014, 06:33:47 PM »
YSU is going to fight like hell to stay status quo let alone go 1A. If crowds and interest do not come back, you may be looking at program extinction in 5 to 10 years.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2014, 08:47:28 PM »
Most definitely FBS football would cost more than FCS football. However, the rewards are greater. YSU will still be able to play the big money games.............also, the Director of the Youngstown Foundation is a YSU and NFL former kicker. The Foundation Director could provide funds for the additional academic/athletic scholarships. Many of the larger universities also provide funds for sports such as frisbee competitions or what is named he Ultimate Disc games.  YSU could control the athletic budget by providing only sports programs mandated by federal law. Furthermore, with the right expertise, YSU will greatly increase the YSU athletic revenues when YSU goes to the FBS/1a  football program. RIght now the seats are 97% empty. There are more people on the sidelines than in the stands..............

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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2014, 08:54:13 PM »
That is silly, YSU has a tradition. Status quo, is empty seats in the stands and mediocrity on the football field. It must be clear, very clear that the players prior to the 90's enabled the players of the 90's to achieve their remarkable results.   The players. after the 90's tried their best. But, it was not the players fault. It was the administrators and coaches fault that the program slid in to the abyss. No, YSU needs to go to 1a and attract the area talent to play for a great tradition. The tradition must go on and move upward out of the abyss. New administrators and expert coaches are needed not defeatism.

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Re: VOTE YES OR NO IF YSU SHOULD HIRE A COACH TO TAKE YSU TO 1a
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2014, 08:57:31 PM »
YSU has a tradition. Status quo, is empty seats in the stands and mediocrity on the football field. It must be clear, very clear that the players prior to the 90's enabled the players of the 90's to achieve their remarkable results.   The players. after the 90's tried their best. But, it was not the players fault. It was the administrators and coaches fault that the program slid in to the abyss. No, YSU needs to go to 1a and attract the area talent to play for a great tradition. The tradition must go on and move upward out of the abyss. New administrators and expert coaches are needed not defeatism.

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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2014, 08:58:15 PM »
YSU has no tradition.  You cant win 4 championships in a decade only and say its a tradition.  More like lightening in a bottle.  And trying to do that twice ends badly.  Defeatism is not needed, but neither are prideful, inflated expectations.

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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2014, 09:01:10 PM »
We are NOT moving up people! That costs money... Money the university simply does not have and if they did, would rather use it on other things.