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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: February 08, 2016, 01:30:08 PM »
Saying its so doesn't make it so. Many times I project YSU with  a winning season, great   recruit classes , etc.   You simply choose to ignore those projections and  zero in on the ones where bad classes or poor seasons are on the horizons as I predicted.  The fact is, the cheerleaders won't be happy until everyone is singing the hymns, no matter the  expected outcomes. Put another way, you can't make a silk purse  out of a sow's ear.

A little history ( again) -- I read this board for years and never posted here. But after watching the great teams for years  in Penguins Club seats, I registered and came on board  when it became apparent that Heacock was recruiting poorly and said so.   Then the  the bottom fell out and Heacock kept losing worst each year  for a number of years.  But credit Paladin ?

Fast  forward and I projected improving , winning seasons under Wolf with highly rated  classes in the MVFC and they won, becoming playoff eligible ( but not selected). Each year they improved and got playoff eligible. But credit Paladin ?  Or note his good outlook ?  Nah !

Don't worry, it won't be long. just a couple of years as the first two poor Bo classes move up and Wolfs players graduate and you'll see  what happens.  BTW, I anticipate doing another review of MVFC recruiting   , but its looks so ugly now comparing YSU with the rest of the MVFC that i'M SURE YOU WON'T BE RECEPTIVE to the truth.

But , please , carry on with the hype job. I'm going to look good again !

Wait & see.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: February 05, 2016, 01:11:40 PM »
Like I have said repeatedly................... this is going to be a comedy. Sit back and enjoy.

No need to argue. What will be will be.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: February 04, 2016, 02:16:45 PM »
Hate to burst your balloon ,HLecter, but Bo can't recruit. Second straight weak class. That puts dark clouds on the horizon. Things do not look good for YSU.

My picks for the class are the Juco Center  and Smith from Fla.   The Juco QB may work out but I don't see a star. The rest are either undersized, lack talent for this level, or nepotism . Hosick might work out  as he has running skills but a questionable arm strength or accuracy. He should start.  However, this creates a HUGE hole in the program at QB as YSU will have one Sr. & 3 Jrs. at the position. The current Fr. will not play here.  No future starter , no backups. Something smells with  Smith. He had  committed to his choice of schools ( UCF) and had other offers from FBS schools, yet went FCS ( YSU). On film , he appears to be a D-I project -- strong upper body, but no techniques. Overwhelms high school Harrys but will face bigger, stronger , quicker players who will have techniques. They have four years to work with him, but it bothers me why he passed over lots of FBS schools to come here. There may be some problems. No one wanted the coaches kids but I would put them at D-II talent. Then there are some who earned no post season honors or few of them. Never a good sign and confirmed with film. The small class means the errors will be magnified.

Of course the cheerleaders here will blow this off.  Remember, I told you in advance that YSU was going down under Heacock because of bad recruiting . You do remember what happened ? I've made a number of predictions here ( most have   been true) that got blown off only to see them come true. Heck, the coaches just rushed out to show my prediction that the current QB would never start for 4 years by bringing in a new starter.

Besides having a foul mouth HC who has anger issues , he took a loaded team with most players back to a losing season ( 5-6) when   they should have matched the previous 8-3 ( no less 7-4) . Coaching seems to be an issue and now, his recruiting is confirmed. Poor.

So, now I'm on the record again. Grab some popcorn and sit back. Make sure you hype the program. Its always gives it a stunning effect when the bottom falls out. Just don't be surprised.

You heard it here first.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: February 02, 2016, 03:02:12 PM »
Absolutely stunning !!. I'll have a full report. The ghost of Jon Heacock has just resurfaced.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: February 01, 2016, 04:26:24 PM »
Needs to improve. Its pretty bad so far. In fact............ awful

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: January 13, 2016, 03:30:25 PM »
The "Metro" area is a commercial designation for Trumbull, Mahoning, Columbiana and Mercer Counties ( the Valley) for investment/commercial purposes and used to be well over 700k at one time.

Don't have a stroke ;D

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: January 13, 2016, 01:23:12 PM »
IF Bo goes without Fla. players, I'll be issuing the warning that the losing seasons are about to start. Certainly you don't "need" all Fla. players. But you "do" need  them. Ohio  is well picked over and most of the players that are FCS types go to the MAC. Pa is similar with many W. Pa players going MAC.

The Youngstown days are over.  The "Metro" area is down to under 600k now, multiple sports have taken out some athletes, the competitive level is down with much smaller schools  dominating as the  larger  schools have dropped enrollment and what talent is left is dominated by D-III- II types. D-Is   are few with fewer going big major and most going MAC type programs.  Most players weren't even born when YSU was  in their  heyday. Few area players now make much impact at YSU.

Make no mistake, I doubt Bo's recruiting ability and said so when he was hired. His first class here was a stinker. The next one will set the tone for immediately down the road. From my view, only Jucos and transfers will save him  now.  Or Fla players.

We'll see

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: January 12, 2016, 01:04:55 PM »
And how MANY of those kids START over local or Ohio or Pa players  ? Wolf won 8 games with those players and had increasing wins over the years.  Bo had 5 and a losing record. Hello ? I'm already on record in saying that Bo's first recruiting class was a stinker. Another, and I assure you, the program sinks, just as it did with  Heacock who recruited  poorly. Ohio is over-recruited. So is Pa.  Both are well picked over. Florida has an overflow of athletes among the tops in the nation. If you expect Bo to recruit locally and win you are sadly going to be disappointed royally. The Ytown area really sucked this year and wasn't much better last year.  Jucos and transfers may   be  the only way to avoid a huge   hole in the program.  We will revisit this when the NLOID are announced.

Its funny how some of you call yourselves fans and promote  this crap, expecting the program to improve. Clueless you are.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: January 11, 2016, 01:17:38 PM »
Yo -- he may work out but needs work and development  . Maybe a player at this   level and maybe not. Not a lock.

If they don't get down to Florida and sign some kids, this class will be questionable.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2016 Recruting
« on: January 08, 2016, 02:02:45 PM »
Surely you joke ?  This kid isn't a D-I player . No speed and played typical WV football where there is no blocking or tackling. Wasted schollie if they offer one.

BTW, Hosick isn't that great. Arm is questionable but he does add some running ability . Better than the current QB , but I told you two years ago that he wouldn't start for 4 years as his ability was low.

After a stinker first class, I see nothing so far in the current class to indicate Bo is a good recruiter , as I warned. BTW, The Youngstown area is AWFUL this year. Talent level really down overall.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Vargo: State of the YSU basketball programs
« on: December 27, 2015, 03:05:23 PM »
Vargo is  known as a long time shill for YSU and always covers Strollo's butt. Anytime he has an opinion, it isn't worth reading .  The long time trouble at YSU has always started at the top. Until it  is removed, nothing much will change.

Happy New Year.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Vindy article
« on: December 20, 2015, 01:59:03 PM »
We  also have a disagreement on what constitutes a "FAN". Every fan has a right to be critical and a cheerleader. There is a time for each.

And now, on with the comedy

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Strollo Article in Vindy
« on: December 02, 2015, 01:44:30 PM »
The bean counter, covering his butt again.  8)

This will be another failed hire.

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LOL ! After looking at Toledo's roster, he didn't get much !!  ;D

But to  be fair , there isn't  much here anymore.

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Understand, much of the MAC is glorified FCS players, not true FBS caliber players. Yet given the choice , a local player will most always opt for the Kent, Akrons and Ball St.s . It isn't a better program, but it is the "big time" , even as a perpetual major loser. Consider that if the local player was a true FBS type, he would get B1G, ACC, etc offers. He'd go there. But he is getting a glorified FCS offer to go to Kent or Akron as a "fbs".

Toledo draws a strong Toledo area base of talent and recruits well in Cleveland, Columbus  and Dayton-Cincy. Add in W.Pa and Fla. and they get good kids. Even bad coaches at Toledo get good players. Many are offered by the dregs of the B1G and chose UT becasue they still get a FBS schollie but at a winning tradition program. That may give Heacock some cushion. While he might get the job, I'd be looking for a younger coach and one making a name for himself on the way up the ranks... hungry........ Heacock lacks fire and drive as a senior citizen.  And, he is going nowhere.

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