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YSU Penguin Athletics / Merry Christmas to all
« on: December 24, 2019, 02:03:03 PM »
Hoping that everyone has a a safe and joyous holiday season.

YSU Penguin Athletics / is there a game
« on: November 08, 2019, 05:22:21 PM »
wouldn't know it but I think we have a game tomorrow

YSU Penguin Athletics / Mays
« on: November 03, 2019, 06:43:59 AM »
Is Mays ok

YSU Penguin Athletics / Attendance reality
« on: October 12, 2019, 10:53:38 PM »
For years on this board people have barked about our schedule and used it as the reason we have so many empty seats.

Last home game was against a playoff team from last year, tonight we hosted the # 3 team in the country. No more butts in the seats then our game against Howard.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Starting times
« on: September 05, 2019, 07:25:42 PM »
Not talking about what time is best, but what is the logic and reason for having different starting times for home football games.

Does the visiting team travel schedule come into play?

YSU Penguin Athletics / season tickets
« on: July 02, 2018, 09:01:49 PM »
Waited to he last minute but just ordered my 4.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Olde buddy Bertram
« on: May 29, 2018, 09:07:25 PM »

Lost in the fog of the primary election and the latest public corruption trial in the Mahoning Valley was an in-depth financial analysis of yearly spending on sports at Ohio’s 10 public universities that subsidize their athletic programs.

And what the numbers-crunching by (the Cleveland Plain Dealer) reveals is a truism about higher education today: Spending priorities are skewed.

This isn’t just the opinion of a cynical, crusty old journalist who sees no joy in Mudville.

Twenty-eight years ago, one of the most popular and successful football coaches in the history of Youngstown State University warned that college athletic departments had no choice but to cut costs.

“We have to become more proactive instead of reactive,” said James P. Tressel, who coached at YSU from 1986 to 2000 and led teams to four national championships in Division I-AA.

Tressel’s comment was prompted by warnings he heard at the NCAA convention in Dallas and coaching convention in San Francisco about what was in store for athletic departments if they didn’t reduce spending.

Indeed, university presidents insisted that athletic departments demonstrate their commitment to cost-cutting measures.

“They sent their message loud and clear,” said Tressel, who went on to coach Ohio State University’s football team to a national championship and is now president of Youngstown State. “Either you make a decision or we will. The postscript to what they are saying, ‘You won’t like our decision.’ ”

Increased spending

But time has a way of dulling the sense of urgency, and so the analysis by shows that annual spending on sports at the 10 public universities has shot up nearly $90 million since 2010.

How are the institutions paying for the increased costs? By sucking up even more dollars from non- athletic sources.

“There simply isn’t enough money from ticket sales and donors to pay the bills,” wrote reporter Rich Exner, whose exhaustive report should be required reading on college campuses.

Here are some eye-popping numbers: Total athletic spending at the 10 schools hit $292.2 million during the 2016-17 school year. That figure represents a 42 percent increase from the 2009-10 fiscal year.

And Exner has two more comparisons that should fuel the debate around the state: The increase in spending is more than triple the 12 percent increase in the Consumer Price Index during the same period; subsidies from student fees and other institutional support increased 42 percent from $127.9 million to $181.8 million.

The analysis is replete with charts and graphs that offer a comparison of athletic spending at the 10 universities.

Before focusing on Youngstown State University’s story, let’s look at two charts for some insight into what’s happening on campuses.

The first is titled “Cost per student on campus to subsidize sports.” The numbers are based on student fees, other subsidies, and total campus enrollment.

Here’s the list: Wright State, $611; Kent State, $701; Ohio University, $736; Cleveland State, $796; University of Cincinnati, $870; Youngstown State, $991; Bowling Green, $1,011; Toledo, $1,167; Akron, $1,269; Miami, $1,332.

The second chart shows “Athletic expenses covered by ticket revenue.”

Here’s the list: Cleveland State, 0.9 percent; Wright State, 2.5 percent; Akron, 2.9 percent; Kent, 3.1 percent; Miami, 3.2 percent; Youngstown State, 3.3 percent; Ohio University, 3.6 percent; Toledo, 6 percent; Bowling Green, 8.2 percent; Cincinnati, 11.8 percent.

Now, let’s look at Exner’s analysis of Youngstown State, which has a long tradition of college sports.

In 2009-10, total cost of athletics was $11.8 million, with $8.4 million coming from university subsidies.

In 2016-17, the total cost of athletics was $15.4 million, with $10.4 million coming from university subsidies.

Let’s dig a little deeper to understand what’s going on at YSU.

In 2016-17, total spending on sports was $15,410,657; ticket revenue was $504,442; contributions from donors, $926,259.

Subsidies from student fees or other non-athletic sources were $10,401,241. That translates to 67 percent of athletic expenses, which amounts to $991 a year per student on campus.

There are 19 sports teams on campus with 331 athletes receiving scholarships from a pool of $4.67 million.

All those numbers are revealing and set the stage for a debate about athletics vs. academics.

But here are several expenditures in the Athletic Department that should awaken students and their parents from their slumber:

Coaching pay and benefits: $3,483,998.

Head football coach pay and benefits (the nationally renowned Bo Pelini): $377,775.

Head men’s basketball coach pay and benefits (Jerrod Calhoun): $294,062.

Head women’s basketball coach pay and benefits (John Barnes): $248,642.

Staff pay and benefits: $2,617,499.

It should be clear by now that with the future of Youngstown State and other public institutions of higher learning hanging in the balance, spending priorities are a major cause for concern.

It is no secret that lawmakers in Columbus are demanding a major restructuring of Ohio’s public universities and colleges to end duplication of academic programs and cut costs.

There also is a great deal of concern over the growing college student debt.

Last week on the Editorial Page, YSU President Tressel made the argument that a large majority of Ohioans recognize and appreciate the high-impact, high-value benefits of higher education.

But Tressel also conceded that student debt is a problem that he and members of his administration are working to address.

Given the amount of money being funneled to sports from nonathletic sources, it is clear that a campuswide discussion about spending priorities is timely and necessary.

As a final note, Ohio State isn’t included in the analysis because its athletic department is self-sustaining.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Happy Holidays
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:05:29 AM »
Regardless of your religious leanings a heartfelt holiday cheer to all!

YSU Penguin Athletics / Bob Carlson
« on: April 19, 2017, 08:34:27 PM »
Sad to see that Bob has passed. 61 way too young

YSU Penguin Athletics / Next coach
« on: March 08, 2017, 08:03:17 PM »
Hoping a new thread will help focus on who the next coach will be.

A proven D1 coach is no doubt out of the question due to money.

Please please please stay away from a lower division coach. May find a diamond now and then but usually they are at a lower division for a reason.

As I have posted before, go out find a young Wooden, enjoy a 3-4 year ride and after a big-time program grabs him, do it again.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Season Greetings
« on: December 24, 2016, 09:32:14 PM »
Happy holidays to all, be safe, be careful,enjoy

YSU Penguin Athletics / 75 years ago
« on: October 17, 2016, 07:52:56 PM »
I believe that it was 75 years ago today that the penalty flag was first used, thrown against Youngstown College.

YSU Penguin Athletics / The Gators
« on: March 30, 2016, 10:25:51 PM »
eastern gateway is getting into sports, looked like YSU's old baseball coach at the announcement not sure if this will affect YSU at all.

Non YSU Sports / Epic choke
« on: March 21, 2016, 08:21:33 PM »
Yes they made the big dance

Yes they won their first game

But best of all they had the most epic choke in history, 12 point lead with 35 sec to play and they lose, I love it

Football now bb, Choke U

YSU Penguin Athletics / Ladies play on Wed
« on: March 14, 2016, 10:19:18 PM »
YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (WKBN) – The Youngstown State women’s basketball team has earned the right to play in a postseason tournament for the third time in the last four years. The Penguins will host Stony Brook on Wednesday at 7:05 p.m. at Beeghly Center in the opening round of the Women’s Basketball Invitational. The game is presented by Medical Mutual of Ohio, the official healthcare provider of Youngstown State University.

YSU is playing in the WBI, a 16-team tournament played on campus sites, for the first time. It comes after appearances in the Women’s NIT in 2013 and 2015, making this the first time in program history that the Penguins will play in the postseason three times in a four-season span. Stony Brook’s head coach is Youngstown State Athletics Hall of Fame member Caroline McCombs, who was a starter on YSU’s NCAA Tournament teams in 1996 and 1998.

Tickets will be $10 for adults and $5 for children ages 12-and-under, and YSU students will be admitted for free with a valid student ID. The YSU Athletic Ticket Office in Stambaugh Stadium will be open from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Tuesday and Wednesday, and Penguin Club members and season ticket holders will have until 5 p.m. on Wednesday to purchase their tickets. The Beeghly Center Ticket Office and gates to the arena will open at 6 p.m. on Wednesday. For more information or to order tickets by phone, call (330) 941-1YSU.

Youngstown State enters the WBI with a 19-12 record, one victory away from the 11th 20-win season in program history. The Penguins were the No. 6 seed in last week’s Horizon League Tournament, and they beat Oakland in the opening round before falling to Wright State in the quarterfinals.

Stony Brook will come to Youngstown with a 17-14 overall record, which included an 8-8 mark in the America East Conference. The Seawolves are playing in the WBI for the second straight season, both of which have come with McCombs as their head coach.

Youngstown State and Stony Brook have played twice previously in a home-and-home series in the 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons. Stony Brook beat YSU 54-47 in New York on Dec. 27, 2011, and Youngstown State evened the series with a 76-43 win in Youngstown on Nov. 30, 2012. The winner of Wednesday’s matchup will advance to play either UMBC or Fairfield.

The Horizon League has had success in the first years of the WBI. UIC won the tournament as a No. 4 seed in 2014, and Detroit was the champion as a No. 1 seed in 2013.

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