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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: All about the money
« on: October 12, 2021, 09:33:59 PM »
Note that the zits got 1.8 million per game for two games this year. Guess that will pay some of their bills.

YSU Penguin Athletics / All about the money
« on: October 12, 2021, 09:31:32 PM »
Per Dana Balash

YSU athletics will pocket more than $3 million in football "money games" through 2027
The biggest payday was this season at Michigan State & YSU received $750,000.

Since 2005 the Youngstown State football team has been playing the so called "money games" against Power Five schools and received millions of dollars for the athletic department and the majority of time a loss.

Since their first "money game" at Pittsburgh, September 24, 2005  the Penguins have played 15 payday games and have only one win, 31-17 against the Panthers on September 1, 2012.

"Our community stuck by us and this win was for our community," said then head coach Eric Wolford following that game.

Now, these games are an every year occurrence for the Penguins. (So far no "money game" is scheduled for 2023)

From this years game at Michigan State, in which the Penguins were paid $750,000, through scheduled "money games" through 2027, Youngstown State will bring home $3.6 million dollars.

The breakdown includes:

2021   Michigan State        $750,000

2022  Kentucky                  $550,000

2023  ??????????

2024 Pittsburgh                $450,000

2025 Michigan State        $725,000

2026 Kentucky                 $575,000

2027 Maryland                 $600,000

(The contracts for each game was obtained through the Freedom of Information Act)

Youngstown was scheduled to play at Akron in 2020 and were guaranteed $300,000. That game was cancelled due to covid-19.

In comparison, Akron, an FBS school earned $3.6 million in two games this season. The Zips brought home $1.8 million each for games at Auburn & Ohio State.

YSU officials say the money earned in these games goes to the athletic department to help all sports.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Missouri State
« on: October 10, 2021, 01:28:05 PM »
Crazy to have 6 tds in the last 4:43 of the game.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Missouri State
« on: October 09, 2021, 08:22:31 PM »
Great to win but I wish we had gone for that FG on 4th and 5 or so.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Missouri State
« on: October 09, 2021, 08:08:49 PM »
Did msu have any flags thrown on them?

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Waid in Portal
« on: October 06, 2021, 09:21:36 AM »
   As for Brungard, he is not even being recruited at YSU as QB, but as an athlete.  Likely play defense.

Sounds right, will be interested to see where they put him.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Waid in Portal
« on: October 05, 2021, 05:53:43 PM »
Mark Waid has entered the transfer portal.
I hope He is not going to Slippery Rock or IUP.

Why? Do you think that he can be a star at higher level, he could be a star at SRU? Just asking.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 05, 2021, 06:50:16 AM »
I say three letters......OVC

No thank you.  If the OVC survives, no sure thing, it would be the absolute weakest of the FCS scholarship conferences. We can't rebuild the program by playing junk.

What we need right now is for Murray State to join both the Missouri Valley Conference and the MVFC. They would be the twelve football member and the league could be split into divisions, six teams on each side of the Mississippi River.

Each year we would play everybody in our division: Indiana State, Illinois State, Western Illinois, Southern Illinois, and Murray State, plus three teams from the west.  That would cut down the insane travel somewhat and make our rebuild somewhat more manageable.

I guess that would help a little. basically would eliminate the two year bye against teams that would be in our division. Still would need a better long term solution.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 04, 2021, 04:42:57 PM »

Well besides needing money, I'd also ask what the benefits of moving up are. Would that really increase game attendance or program interest? Maybe the regional rivalries would generate some interest but it's hard to tell. Look at NDSU, they could move into the big 12 today and compete, but they are content staying FCS. 

I was too young for the glory days of the 90s but were the Kent St and Akron games a big contribution to program interest? If so, the move would make sense but if not I don't see why we would move, even if we had the money.

My interest in moving up is to play schools that would be more interesting to the fans, Most interest would be with OH and MI schools now in the MAC so if they do not drop down we should move up. And if they still do not want us in the MAC it would be easier to play them non league.

Dropping to D2 is not an option.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 03, 2021, 07:13:22 PM »
I just don't want us to turn into a FCS version of the AKRON ZIPS.

Bite your tongue

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 03, 2021, 07:11:10 PM »
Here is what makes me sad. 

We won 4 championships and of all the Dominant FCS schools we parlayed them for what?

A 4000 other side of the stadium. 

Apply St.  moved up
Georgia S moved up
Marshall moved up
Boise moved up

We havenít done sh** in 20 years other than what 2 playoff appearances.

I have said this countless times we are in the wrong conference.  We have no chance of ever winning it for years. If at all. 

They will use us as a schedule filler for every Homecoming thatís what we have become.  Being in a tough league means sh** if you donít have the resources we are like the missouri and S Carolina of the SEC they ainít winning sh**.  We when we were dominant we should of made a move to a different league or hell we should have started one.

I agree with most of what you say.

Look at the other teams we would play that have moved up, Nevada, Liberty, Western Kentucky and others. Heck I believe that several of the teams in our league that we cannot compete with, were D2 back in the day.

I am tired of hearing that we do not have the money, all these other teams figured out a way to do it, is there a rule saying that YSU cannot?

Only one place to look for answers.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 02, 2021, 08:04:38 PM »
We are not very good.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 02, 2021, 07:57:41 PM »
We scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 02, 2021, 07:37:47 PM »
5 qtr's 0 points

given up 65 points since our last score

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: N. Iowa
« on: October 02, 2021, 07:11:15 PM »
Time to give another QB some playing time

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