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Title: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on July 22, 2017, 12:11:55 AM
Did I see where YSU fans are sitting in section 518 for Heinz Field? Anyone get their tickets?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: dwj on July 22, 2017, 02:58:16 PM
Terrible seats
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on July 23, 2017, 10:07:06 AM
I got 4 seats in section 110 lower level on the very top row YSU sideline about 40 yardline
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: HappyPenguin on July 24, 2017, 06:27:33 PM
There will be no shortage of good seats on stub hub. The closer we get they should start showing up.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Buddy on July 25, 2017, 04:29:12 PM
2 years ago people were giving them away in the parking lots for free. Pretty much can sit anywhere
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: coachtress on July 26, 2017, 12:35:00 AM
Two years ago on Stubhub. got two seats for $15 each (plus fees), lower bowl on the YSU sideline around the 25 yard line.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on July 26, 2017, 10:01:55 AM
Really hard to say what kind of a crowd might show up for this game. The game two years ago was just brutally hot and kept some fans away, but with both teams coming off great seasons you never know with a nice fall day
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on July 26, 2017, 10:29:38 AM
Really hard to say what kind of a crowd might show up for this game. The game two years ago was just brutally hot and kept some fans away, but with both teams coming off great seasons you never know with a nice fall day
Last season's performances is a good point about an increased crowd against Pitt, but, although is was BLISTERING in the sun the last time down there, I'm not sure that affected the crowd that much.  I didn't expect it, so I never considered it, I bet a lot of people were the same as me?
I was laughing during the Wofford game, that although we call it the "Ice Castle" I've worn shorts more times than jeans over the last 10 years.  Then I remembered, we haven't plated into December for a hell of a long time!  I'll take the early heat in Pitt for the money, so we have the facilities etc. to draw the kids to play in the cold of December!
Can't wait to get started.  Soon 1AA is going to be telling me how great Mays looks and how great Davis looks and how great Larry, Curly and Mo look at DE.  Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 26, 2017, 10:52:44 AM
Pitt didn't have a "great" season. They beat Penn State and Clemson, but I guess you could call it great for their standards. They are a mediocre program. Always will be. The only time they fill up Heinz is when Penn State will come to play and thats because half the fans are wearing blue and white! Sad... Like most said, wait and get your tickets cheap closer to the game. Plenty of seats available.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on July 26, 2017, 11:00:15 AM
Depending on how many tickets that you want to buy. Right now section 112 (for 3 or less) and section 107 (groups of 3 or more) are you best values. Under $20 & under $15 respectively. Specific to Heinz, the three things that are big for me are access to the steps, shelter and no Steelers. So I usually buy isle seats at the bottom of the upper deck. If I am not worrying about covering, then I go back rows in the lower section. Easier access to beer, peanuts and restrooms. My bladder turned 50.  :)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: DefendYoungstown on July 26, 2017, 12:09:52 PM
Student Tickets; Fan Bus Trip Available For YSU at Pittsburgh Game (YSUSports.com):

http://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/ysu-at-pittsburgh-details

Ranking the Toughest Games on Pittsburgh’s College Football Schedule in 2017 (Anthalon)

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-toughest-games-pittsburghs-college-football-schedule-2017

Synopsis: They rank the YSU game as the easiest on Pitt's 2017 schedule.

"Former Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini brought the once proud Penguins back into FCS title contention, leading Youngstown all the way to the national title game in 2016. But Pelini’s crew suffered significant losses and this game should be an easy victory for the Panthers."
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on July 26, 2017, 01:02:38 PM

Can't wait to get started.  Soon 1AA is going to be telling me how great Mays looks and how great Davis looks and how great Larry, Curly and Mo look at DE.  Looking forward to it!

I think you meant to say Mays and Wells. Although I like Davis and Hosick. I cannot wait either. What a short off-season this has been?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on July 26, 2017, 01:45:54 PM

Can't wait to get started.  Soon 1AA is going to be telling me how great Mays looks and how great Davis looks and how great Larry, Curly and Mo look at DE.  Looking forward to it!

I think you meant to say Mays and Wells. Although I like Davis and Hosick. I cannot wait either. What a short off-season this has been?
You hate Wells.  I don't recall you ever saying anything positive about his performance.  You LOVE Mays and Davis and I'm not sure about Hosick except his isn't Hunter.  What about my L C and Mo dig at DE?  Do you have a favorite (obviously Justus Reed has to be a HEAVY favorite for one side) for playing time?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on July 28, 2017, 07:53:59 AM
Nah. Wells was clearly the answer. I think that you confuse me with your buddy "Nation". I disliked the entire move to a more mobile QB in coach M's system ...so I could not have disliked him. I like Mays because he is a bit taller and more mobile ...but the same QB as Hunter. He is my clear #2, but a coach may not see it that way. Hosick is still out as I understand he cannot play until September at the earliest, but that was an old report. If there was going to be another drastic QB style change, then Mays probably makes no sense at #2.

I am not sure at DE, until I see them play, but the transfer confuses me. Not sure if it was just an opportunity to grab someone, or does coach Carl not like what he has? Then again we are short. Returning on paper, it would be Bynum and Pappadakas. I am going up to spend a couple of days next week. Taking vacation.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on July 28, 2017, 08:50:58 AM
Nah. Wells was clearly the answer. I think that you confuse me with your buddy "Nation". I disliked the entire move to a more mobile QB in coach M's system ...so I could not have disliked him. I like Mays because he is a bit taller and more mobile ...but the same QB as Hunter. He is my clear #2, but a coach may not see it that way. Hosick is still out as I understand he cannot play until September at the earliest, but that was an old report. If there was going to be another drastic QB style change, then Mays probably makes no sense at #2.

I am not sure at DE, until I see them play, but the transfer confuses me. Not sure if it was just an opportunity to grab someone, or does coach Carl not like what he has? Then again we are short. Returning on paper, it would be Bynum and Pappadakas. I am going up to spend a couple of days next week. Taking vacation.
Mays is a bit taller than who, me?
Nathan Mays   QB   So.   6-3   210
Hunter Wells   QB   Sr.   6-5   215
Pelini clearly knows the cubboard is bare at DE.  They recruited several who look like the will grow into 1AA players, but the "grow" part takes time. 
As I noted earlier, Bynum and Pappadakas have a combined 4 years in college and a combined -0- total tackles. At least Chapman has been on a field before.  Still looks like HUGE hole to me. DE's are going to make Dellovade and Wright All-Americans because they are going to have to make 100 tackles each. 
I suspect one of the TE's who played TE & DE in HS might get moved to DE, even with Reed.  I think Reed wanted playing time and wasn't going to get it in FL and we got our guys exposed and drafted.  He probably has dreams....
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on July 28, 2017, 10:37:54 AM
I think you are spot on with DE on defense. Although I may not think it is the biggest issue on the whole the team, it seems to be the way Carl ran his defense last year. (I just think it is too risky of a style to constantly bring pressure. Again note the late 2nd quarter adjustments by WVa last year). Just as the TB is the way that Shane runs the offense and the biggest whole to fill for me. Neither of us are wrong (or right) here.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on July 28, 2017, 10:53:50 AM
http://valley-football.org/sports/2017/6/20/FB_0620173000.aspx Bo discussed the Quarterback situation heading into camp in this most recent conference call and made know mention of Hosick
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on July 28, 2017, 11:39:22 AM
I think you are spot on with DE on defense. Although I may not think it is the biggest issue on the whole the team, it seems to be the way Carl ran his defense last year. (I just think it is too risky of a style to constantly bring pressure. Again note the late 2nd quarter adjustments by WVa last year). Just as the TB is the way that Shane runs the offense and the biggest whole to fill for me. Neither of us are wrong (or right) here.
I see two proven TB's returning and I think all the DE's back have a combined total of 2 assists in their combined college careers.  You may think TB, but as I see it, it's all about DE's.  In the day of the spread, D is ALL ABOUT QB pressure.  The problem is, if you have to blitz to get pressure, you really put a unproven DB to the test.  Last year we got pressure from Rivers and Moss, this year, looks like Armond and Lee will be counted on heavily
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on July 28, 2017, 05:17:12 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2017/07/28/pitt-jordan-whitehead-suspension-rori-blair-dismissal-alex-bookser-quintin-wiggins/stories/201707280149  Several Pitt players will be suspended for the YSU game..Looking at their depth chart they were very young and inexperienced across the board before these suspensions were handed down..Should be interesting!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on July 28, 2017, 05:52:22 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2017/07/28/pitt-jordan-whitehead-suspension-rori-blair-dismissal-alex-bookser-quintin-wiggins/stories/201707280149  Several Pitt players will be suspended for the YSU game..Looking at their depth chart they were very young and inexperienced across the board before these suspensions were handed down..Should be interesting!!
The dismissed player is a Senior DE.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 28, 2017, 11:42:22 PM
Whitehead is one of their best players. Big loss.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on July 29, 2017, 08:01:53 AM
Whitehead is one of their best players. Big loss.
Wondering.....any interest from Bo?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 29, 2017, 11:25:33 AM
Whitehead is one of their best players. Big loss.
Wondering.....any interest from Bo?


Whitehead was suspended, not dismissed.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on July 29, 2017, 02:31:55 PM
Whitehead is one of their best players. Big loss.
Wondering.....any interest from Bo?


Whitehead was suspended, not dismissed.
According to the newspaper, DE Rori Blair was dismissed. Whitehead was a safety and he was suspended.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 29, 2017, 06:47:44 PM
Whitehead is one of their best players. Big loss.
Wondering.....any interest from Bo?


Whitehead was suspended, not dismissed.
According to the newspaper, DE Rori Blair was dismissed. Whitehead was a safety and he was suspended.


Yes, correct. Blair has failed multiple drug tests.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on July 29, 2017, 07:34:34 PM
Whitehead is one of their best players. Big loss.
Wondering.....any interest from Bo?
Keep him away from YSU.

Whitehead was suspended, not dismissed.
According to the newspaper, DE Rori Blair was dismissed. Whitehead was a safety and he was suspended.


Yes, correct. Blair has failed multiple drug tests.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on July 29, 2017, 08:14:48 PM
I think we may have a RePitt of 2012  ;)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on July 30, 2017, 08:38:16 AM
Pitt has to replace three starters in the secondary from a year ago with Whitehead being suspended you can make it four. The DE and LB were both expected to start and Narduzzi kicked his starting DT off the team in the spring. I really liked the match up with our offense against their defense going in before all of this news broke..I'm kind of getting a chuckle with some of the media out of Pittsburgh saying this will only affect them for the Penn St. and Oklahoma St. games☺
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: DefendYoungstown on July 30, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Let them overlook us. They did the last two times as well. It's to our advantage.

That being said, ESPN Week 1 matchup predictor gives Pitt at 90% chance of winning (prior to suspensions).
http://thespun.com/news/espns-fpi-predicts-week-one-of-the-2017-college-football-season


Hero Sports list YSU vs. Pitt as one of their '5 Most Winnable Games (For FCS Teams)' of Week 1:
http://herosports.com/fcs-football/fcs-vs-fbs-upsets-2017-bzbz
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on August 01, 2017, 11:44:09 AM
Does any body if this game will be carried live on either local or cable TV . Last year's YSU-WV game was carried on Cable Channel Root TV.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 01, 2017, 02:55:37 PM
Does any body if this game will be carried live on either local or cable TV . Last year's YSU-WV game was carried on Cable Channel Root TV.

I think it'll be on the ACC sports network if you get that channel.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 02, 2017, 10:13:16 AM
Does any body if this game will be carried live on either local or cable TV . Last year's YSU-WV game was carried on Cable Channel Root TV.

I think it'll be on the ACC sports network if you get that channel.
I suspect it will still be on that channel, even if you don't get it!  Right Chief?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 02, 2017, 10:21:43 AM
Does any body if this game will be carried live on either local or cable TV . Last year's YSU-WV game was carried on Cable Channel Root TV.

I think it'll be on the ACC sports network if you get that channel.
I suspect it will still be on that channel, even if you don't get it!  Right Chief?


Right ;)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 11, 2017, 09:28:50 AM
The injuries are really starting to add up in the Pitt football camp. Several more starters will be out for the Y.S.U. game including their top running back
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 11, 2017, 11:22:30 AM
The injuries are really starting to add up in the Pitt football camp. Several more starters will be out for the Y.S.U. game including their top running back
The top QB was out the last time in Pitt too.  QB is supposed to be a real stud, and they have to be licking their chops looking at our DE and CB situation.  3 weeks will tell
For all the talk about TV networks, I want to point out, tickets are cheap and Heinz Field is very close and our team could use the support!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on August 11, 2017, 04:35:52 PM
Military (active and retired) active and retired first-respondents get up to 4 free tickets each to the game:

http://pittsburghpanthers.com/sb_output.aspx?form=22
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 21, 2017, 04:01:47 PM
Anybody in need of tickets in the YSU section? I will have some extra seats near my group (some people have dropped out of coming). I will sell them to you for what I bought them for (very cheap). Send me a message if anybody's interested. Seats are in section 110 good view between the 40 and 50 year line.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 21, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
I also have a group of tickets in section 108. Again, just let me know.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: pittsburghpenguin on August 22, 2017, 07:16:38 PM
Pitt has named Max Browne the starting QB. He's a grad transfer from USC.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 23, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
Browne was not impressive at USC, that's why Darnold passed him up so easily. Pitt is missing a bunch of starters, and their prized recruit just showed up at camp and is going to start the season red shirting. If we can somewhat control LOS, then I like our chances to win. Also, as long as Hunter does not crap the bed.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 23, 2017, 10:15:59 AM
Browne was not impressive at USC, that's why Darnold passed him up so easily. Pitt is missing a bunch of starters, and their prized recruit just showed up at camp and is going to start the season red shirting. If we can somewhat control LOS, then I like our chances to win. Also, as long as Hunter does not crap the bed.
Darnold might be #1 overall in NFL draft next spring, so you can still be pretty good and be behind him.  Remember Tom Brady was #2 at Michigan, and I don't think we could stop him. 
Their WRs are probably better, certainly more experienced than our DBs, so it all comes down to pass rush and the DEs.  We scored plenty the last 2 times in Pitt and against WVa last year too, so I do't worry about the O.  We are in club seats again, and there aren't many 'Quin supporters there! 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 23, 2017, 10:29:53 AM
Darnold is great. Browne has career 650 career passing yards in 11 career games. Count me as not impressed. Bring it on kid.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 23, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
Darnold is great. Browne has career 650 career passing yards in 11 career games. Count me as not impressed. Bring it on kid.
Mop up stats can be deceiving.  He was 69 for 112 62% and 6 yards per attempt 2 TD and 0 INT.  Be careful what you wish for. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on August 23, 2017, 11:39:10 AM
Browne was not impressive at USC, that's why Darnold passed him up so easily. Pitt is missing a bunch of starters, and their prized recruit just showed up at camp and is going to start the season red shirting. If we can somewhat control LOS, then I like our chances to win. Also, as long as Hunter does not crap the bed.
Darnold might be #1 overall in NFL draft next spring, so you can still be pretty good and be behind him.  Remember Tom Brady was #2 at Michigan, and I don't think we could stop him. 
Their WRs are probably better, certainly more experienced than our DBs, so it all comes down to pass rush and the DEs.  We scored plenty the last 2 times in Pitt and against WVa last year too, so I do't worry about the O.  We are in club seats again, and there aren't many 'Quin supporters there!

I got tickets around 50 yards line directly behind the YSU bench. I am going to have to put up with all the verbal abuses against our bench the whole game. They might come after me and my YSU gear at the same time.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 23, 2017, 11:47:14 AM
Browne was not impressive at USC, that's why Darnold passed him up so easily. Pitt is missing a bunch of starters, and their prized recruit just showed up at camp and is going to start the season red shirting. If we can somewhat control LOS, then I like our chances to win. Also, as long as Hunter does not crap the bed.
Darnold might be #1 overall in NFL draft next spring, so you can still be pretty good and be behind him.  Remember Tom Brady was #2 at Michigan, and I don't think we could stop him. 
Their WRs are probably better, certainly more experienced than our DBs, so it all comes down to pass rush and the DEs.  We scored plenty the last 2 times in Pitt and against WVa last year too, so I do't worry about the O.  We are in club seats again, and there aren't many 'Quin supporters there!

I got tickets around 50 yards line directly behind the YSU bench. I am going to have to put up with all the verbal abuses against our bench the whole game. They might come after me and my YSU gear at the same time.
Honestly in 3 games in the club seats we've had pretty good treatment.  We don't chant "Pittsburgh sucks" and they’ve been reasonable in return.   The second half of the game we won there, we had the section pretty much to ourselves!  Here’s hoping for a repeat of that!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 23, 2017, 03:01:05 PM
As long as we can find ways to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball ,limit the big plays from Pitt, play some complimentary football we could walk out of there with a win like the one we had in 2012!
IF IF IF and IF come true we would win every game!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: robmat2571 on August 23, 2017, 05:41:09 PM
I think I have a pretty good idea on how this game will go... I am both a Pitt fan and YSU fan.  I will be cheering for YSU!  USC Max Browne will start at QB for Pitt.  He was sortof a bust at USC although was the #1 rated qb coming out of HS.  He is still getting used to the offense at Pitt.  However, Pitt has two FANTASTIC wr's in Quadre Henderson and Jester Weah.  They will cause our defense big problems.  Henderson was the best returner in college football last year... they will run several jet sweeps with him trying to get him loose.  Pitt also has several good rb's including the kid from Austintown (although he has fallen a bit on the depth chart).  Pitts Defense is in a total rebuild mode!  The secondary is poor and their best db is suspended!  Expect a relatively high scoring game!  (AGAIN). 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on August 23, 2017, 07:14:44 PM
Robert Lee was booted out of ESPN's broadcast of the U of Virginia fooball because of his name. He has been reassigned to broadcast the Pitt-YSU game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: guinpen on August 23, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Robert Lee was booted out of ESPN's broadcast of the U of Virginia fooball because of his name. He has been reassigned to broadcast the Pitt-YSU game.

Sadly this kind of stuff does not shock me anymore.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 24, 2017, 07:58:35 AM
Robert Lee was booted out of ESPN's broadcast of the U of Virginia fooball because of his name. He has been reassigned to broadcast the Pitt-YSU game.

Sadly this kind of stuff does not shock me anymore.
They did say his name was Robert A Lee, not Robert E Lee, and he was actually not a Confederate general.  Nice that they clarified that at least.  The politically correct leftists in the country are completely out of control! 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: HappyPenguin on August 24, 2017, 08:48:57 AM
Robert Lee was booted out of ESPN's broadcast of the U of Virginia fooball because of his name. He has been reassigned to broadcast the Pitt-YSU game.

LOL, wow what a country. If this is the guy I am thinking of, he is of Asian descent  :o :o :o :o :o

Clearly a racist confederate sympathizer.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on August 24, 2017, 09:46:18 AM
Robert Lee was booted out of ESPN's broadcast of the U of Virginia fooball because of his name. He has been reassigned to broadcast the Pitt-YSU game.

LOL, wow what a country. If this is the guy I am thinking of, he is of Asian descent  :o :o :o :o :o

Clearly a racist confederate sympathizer.
The Asian community should line up the lawyers to sue their A$$ off. Does anybody really think ESPN would remove Robert Lee if he happens to be African American?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: DefendYoungstown on August 24, 2017, 10:34:00 PM
A main reason many I know have stopped contributing to this forum over the years is because of the political commentary and general vitriol between forum contributors. To that end, could we please stick to information about YSU football? There's plenty of other outlets for everything else.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 25, 2017, 08:39:12 AM
A main reason many I know have stopped contributing to this forum over the years is because of the political commentary and general vitriol between forum contributors. To that end, could we please stick to information about YSU football? There's plenty of other outlets for everything else.
Just noting, you post has nothing about football either, making is political in nature. 
Who do you see emerging at DE?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 25, 2017, 09:13:44 AM
Chapman and Louigene are going to be the starters at DE. I expect the transfer Reed to supplant one of them as he gets more used to Bo's defense.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 25, 2017, 09:22:12 AM
Chapman and Louigene are going to be the starters at DE. I expect the transfer Reed to supplant one of them as he gets more used to Bo's defense.
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I assume you are correct, but it doesn't matter as much who starts, it matters who is getting after the enemy QB in the 4th quarter!  What I liked most about Derek Rivers is he made his sacks in the 4th quarter of close games.  Yes, a sack when you are up 14-0 in the 1st quarter is nice, but what counts is one when you are up 21-17 in the 4th and the other team is driving.  That's when Rivers stood out.  Hope he recovers 100% for NE, and I hope Reed or whomever, gets it done in the 4th quarter!   My clear sense is 28 points won't win the Pitt game for either team.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on August 25, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
A main reason many I know have stopped contributing to this forum over the years is because of the political commentary and general vitriol between forum contributors. To that end, could we please stick to information about YSU football? There's plenty of other outlets for everything else.
Just noting, you post has nothing about football either, making is political in nature. 
Who do you see emerging at DE?

Go guin, I am with you.
My original comment about Robert Lee being pull out of the ACC broadcast of UVA game and was reassigned to be an analyst for the YSU-Pitt football game.

It had "ESPN", YSU, PITT, FOOTBALL, ESPN FOOTBALL ANALYST, UVA, ACC , YSU- PITT in the paragraph. Please tell me, DefYn, why this is not related to YSU sports?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 25, 2017, 09:54:21 AM
A main reason many I know have stopped contributing to this forum over the years is because of the political commentary and general vitriol between forum contributors. To that end, could we please stick to information about YSU football? There's plenty of other outlets for everything else.
Just noting, you post has nothing about football either, making is political in nature. 
Who do you see emerging at DE?

Go guin, I am with you.
My original comment about Robert Lee being pull out of the ACC broadcast of UVA game and was reassigned to be an analyst for the YSU-Pitt football game.

It had "ESPN", YSU, PITT, FOOTBALL, ESPN FOOTBALL ANALYST, UVA, ACC , YSU- PITT in the paragraph. Please tell me, DefYn, why this is not related to YSU sports?
Double ET, we should probably give up, this guy is probably a liberal that things Bob Lee SHOULD be removed from UVA game coverage.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 25, 2017, 10:19:25 AM
Nobody's talking about it but the loss of Squiric on this team could be trouble in the middle. He was a 300+ pound plug in there and about to be a 3 year letterman. Mesier and Smith will be the starters and they are very good and have the experience but the depth behind them with Ragland, Thompson and McCraw may take some time to develop. We'll see...
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 25, 2017, 10:45:10 AM
Nobody's talking about it but the loss of Squiric on this team could be trouble in the middle. He was a 300+ pound plug in there and about to be a 3 year letterman. Mesier and Smith will be the starters and they are very good and have the experience but the depth behind them with Ragland, Thompson and McCraw may take some time to develop. We'll see...
While there are Wentz's and Rivers in 1AA football, the ones that have next level talent, by the fact of their limited numbers, highlights the thin talent level at 1AA.  The loss of depth for anybody, at any position, can be critical.  They talk about OSU not rebuilding, but re-loading.  Well, at our level, it is a lot harder to re-load.  That is why the Tressel years at YSU or the run at NDSU were so impressive.  (note the "were" when refering to NDSU.  The coach is gone, his players are gone, the run will be over, just watch)   I wish Cody well.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on August 27, 2017, 02:07:19 PM
A main reason many I know have stopped contributing to this forum over the years is because of the political commentary and general vitriol between forum contributors. To that end, could we please stick to information about YSU football? There's plenty of other outlets for everything else.
Just noting, you post has nothing about football either, making is political in nature. 
Who do you see emerging at DE?

Go guin, I am with you.
My original comment about Robert Lee being pull out of the ACC broadcast of UVA game and was reassigned to be an analyst for the YSU-Pitt football game.

It had "ESPN", YSU, PITT, FOOTBALL, ESPN FOOTBALL ANALYST, UVA, ACC , YSU- PITT in the paragraph. Please tell me, DefYn, why this is not related to YSU sports?
Double ET, we should probably give up, this guy is probably a liberal that things Bob Lee SHOULD be removed from UVA game coverage.


We can create a safe room for him.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysuguins4 on August 28, 2017, 12:29:16 PM
Nobody's talking about it but the loss of Squiric on this team could be trouble in the middle. He was a 300+ pound plug in there and about to be a 3 year letterman. Mesier and Smith will be the starters and they are very good and have the experience but the depth behind them with Ragland, Thompson and McCraw may take some time to develop. We'll see...

Really hurts the depth there.  Is he out for the season with an injury?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 28, 2017, 12:36:54 PM
A main reason many I know have stopped contributing to this forum over the years is because of the political commentary and general vitriol between forum contributors. To that end, could we please stick to information about YSU football? There's plenty of other outlets for everything else.
Just noting, you post has nothing about football either, making is political in nature. 
Who do you see emerging at DE?

Go guin, I am with you.
My original comment about Robert Lee being pull out of the ACC broadcast of UVA game and was reassigned to be an analyst for the YSU-Pitt football game.

It had "ESPN", YSU, PITT, FOOTBALL, ESPN FOOTBALL ANALYST, UVA, ACC , YSU- PITT in the paragraph. Please tell me, DefYn, why this is not related to YSU sports?
Double ET, we should probably give up, this guy is probably a liberal that things Bob Lee SHOULD be removed from UVA game coverage.


We can create a safe room for him.
;D
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 28, 2017, 02:00:50 PM
What I'm worried about the most are the DB's. Pitt is explosive on the outside so they will create problems. We are going to have to score so hopefully Monty and Co. can keep up and not crap the bed ;)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 28, 2017, 08:28:42 PM
From what I'm seeing in some scouting, if it is to be believed, Pitts defense should be pretty ripe to work with. Especially given the YSU offense is going to be a strong point of the team this year. The rub of it is going to be how good the defense is this year. If the defense plays pretty well, and the DBs look good, then we have a real chance to win the game. Pitt secondary is looking to have some holes in it, and with the QB and WR talent we return, we should be able to pass the ball. Granted, we need our run game to work well too, but I think it will.

Hopefully the team is going into this with some quiet confidence. I like the odds.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Wick250 on August 28, 2017, 11:36:30 PM
We are not playing Kansas or Iowa State or Minnesota (the old version before Jerry Kill.)  Pittsburgh is a good P5 program with an excellent coach and a lot of very good players.  We have evolved to the point where we have a puncher's chance against anybody not in the FBS top 10.  But predicting a victory in this game is not very realistic.  Our season starts with the league opener at home against SDSU at the end of September.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 29, 2017, 01:24:32 AM
Maybe I am being overly optimistic. I just think I like our odds. I'm not saying its going to be easy.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 29, 2017, 12:25:15 PM
Depth chart is out. Zinni at RG, not Sharp. Christian Turner listed at 2nd string RB, not Alessi.

Smalls, Nicoe Hurst and Larkin are starting DB's with Powell and Solomon Warfield starting at safety. Randall-Posey is the other starting LB along with Wright and Dellovade.



Pitt is going to score points on us so we HAVE to be able to keep up on offense.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 29, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
Just saw the depth chart and was going to post too. Thought the biggest suprise was the second string running back was not alessi
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 29, 2017, 12:36:54 PM
My biggest concern are the DB's. They moved Nicoe Hurst back to CB where he played at JUCO. Guess they feel comfortable with Warfield at safety. Let's also hope our DT's can hold up vs the run. No 300+ pounders in the middle.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 29, 2017, 01:27:46 PM
Defensively we may not be in the best of shape.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 29, 2017, 01:44:55 PM
True freshman Bryce Gibson listed as a starter at DB. Boy oh boy....
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 29, 2017, 02:33:44 PM
I hate to give everyone this bad news, but it looks like tropical storm Harvey will be invading Pittsburgh by kickoff and continue all afternoon. Obviously this will hurt our passing game that we will need..bring your ponchos folks!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 29, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
True freshman Bryce Gibson listed as a starter at DB. Boy oh boy....
Boy oh boy.....good?
Boy oh boy.....bad?
The guys we had couldn't hold up against the Pitt speed, maybe Bryce can? 
My concern was, is, and will be DE.  We had GREAT pressure from the DEs last season and covered a big weakness at DB.  This year the DEs are both in the NFL and out CBs are really out on an island.  32 points won't win this game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 29, 2017, 03:17:10 PM
I hate to give everyone this bad news, but it looks like tropical storm Harvey will be invading Pittsburgh by kickoff and continue all afternoon. Obviously this will hurt our passing game that we will need..bring your ponchos folks!!
good for the goose, good for the gander, and I think hurting the passing hurts them more than hurts us.  But usually the offensive guy knows which way he is cutting and so he has the advantage. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on August 29, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Turner is a beast I heard.  Not surprised.  I heard Turner might be the starter sooner than later.  We have no shot to win here.  Going against a good coach with a chip on his shoulder against us.  I think they will look at the WVU tape and expose our early season weakness in the secondary.  Let's get out with no injuries.  I heard we were not pleased with our OT play so far during the training camp. Work the short passing game with the backs an te's to protect Wells.  We say how bad Ricky got dinged at WVU don't be stupid Montgomery with your play calls.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 29, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
USA Today doesn't have Pitt rain unit 1 AM Sunday.  Looks to me like pretty nice day Saturday (for Pittsburgh at least)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 29, 2017, 04:00:44 PM
DE is not the problem. It's going to be covering people in the back end. Pitt may pass for 400 on us.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 29, 2017, 04:08:23 PM
Turner is going to be a big weapon. Return game, and he's been getting plenty of reps with the 1's in practice. Spencer and Fraser leave something to be desired at the tackle position right now. Sharp had the guard job going into camp but was overtaken by the West Branch product Zinni.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 29, 2017, 06:45:07 PM
USA Today doesn't have Pitt rain unit 1 AM Sunday.  Looks to me like pretty nice day Saturday (for Pittsburgh at least)
Your right Go Guins each team must play in the weather at the end of the day. These storms are hard to track, checked accu weather 2 days ago and it was showing 80° and sunshine zero rain with light winds. Today there was a 71% chance of rain from 12-5 with torrential downpours and gusty winds. I just see a few things we can take advantage of in the passing game with the Pitt suspension's and injuries if the weather is good. If the passing game is none existent do to weather look for Mays to be inserted more to run the read option types of plays. Hearing that the staff is not very happy with the right side of the O-Line and corner play. The defensive ends from what I've heard look solid for conference play. If the outcome of the game is not favorable for us so be it. This is still a money game that we are not expected to win, if we were the Bison and what they accomplished in the past it would be a different story. Just need to take a deep breath and not focus on the negatives at any one position. We will be be solid as a whole in conference play. Narduzzi and Bo have had the time they need to get their players in place so let the chips fall where they may. Neither team looks the same as it did 2 years ago..Still wouldn't put it past the Guins to win by a field goal if everything goes as planned ☺
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 29, 2017, 08:33:09 PM
Hopefully the Oline can develop, but it is definitely disconcerting to hear the corners are playing suspect. We are going to need good DBs for conference play with the QBs in the MVFC this year.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on August 30, 2017, 12:08:50 AM
The offensive tackle position may be the issue on this team.  Large holes to fill.  Keep this in mind
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 30, 2017, 09:39:11 AM
The O-Line has been getting consistently beaten in practice from what I hear, and we all know Mr. Wells is not fleet of foot so this is gonna be interesting Saturday. Gonna have to run the ball effectively.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: HappyPenguin on August 30, 2017, 09:57:50 AM
Well if it does rain, it won't be well over 100 degrees on the field this time. That hurt last time us more than rain will hurt us this time.

Quality depth is where the FBS and FCS teams differ the most in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 30, 2017, 10:39:25 AM
Well if it does rain, it won't be well over 100 degrees on the field this time. That hurt last time us more than rain will hurt us this time.

Quality depth is where the FBS and FCS teams differ the most in my opinion.
The last COUPLE of times in Pitt that sun was brutal! 
Depth is an issue for sure, but as a general rule FCS players are still a little small, or a little slow, position by position vs FBS players.  The reason we remember getting 2 players drafted is because it rarely happens.  OSU has a dozen annually.  There is still a BIG difference.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 30, 2017, 01:23:31 PM
You know, I distinctly remember it raining during the night game that YSU won at Pitt back in 2012. Just saying.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 30, 2017, 01:28:12 PM
You know, I distinctly remember it raining during the night game that YSU won at Pitt back in 2012. Just saying.
Last couple DAY games were hotter than "heck" 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 30, 2017, 04:37:08 PM
Bigger problem is the depth behind the starters is so inexperienced. May not be the season some predict. At least early on.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 30, 2017, 05:00:46 PM
Bigger problem is the depth behind the starters is so inexperienced. May not be the season some predict. At least early on.
Any reasonable person would expect to lose to Pitt.  Remember, this team beat the Big 10 champion and was the only team to beat Clemson, (the same Clemson that hung 30-0 on Ohio State)  Following that, we should win the next 2 easily, inexperienced or no.  By then, you have experience and I expect competitive play all through the MVFC schedule.  I'm not making excuses or lowing expectations now.  Not by a long shot!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 30, 2017, 06:29:18 PM
Great point Go guins!! Lets hope that we are competitive and limit the mental error's. Many publications have this as one of the most winnable FCS vs. FBS game this weekend. The weather is supposed to now clear up between 12-5 with a 30% chance of showers..keeping my fingers crossed we shall see!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Wick250 on August 30, 2017, 11:13:14 PM
Chief,

We were inexperienced at several spots in 1991.  Several freshmen either started or saw considerable action in the secondary.  One of them was Lester Weaver.  We struggled early that year, actually losing to Akron and then to lowly Liberty at home the week before we had to travel to mighty Georgia Southern.  We all remember how that season worked out as our young players gained experience.  By the time they were juniors and seniors in 1993 and 1994, those kids in the secondary were important cogs in the best defense in IAA football.  And Weaver left YSU having played in four consecutive championship games, winning three and earning All-American honors.  So inexperience is scary, but as go guins noted it is not a reason to panic or lower expectations.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2017, 02:59:40 PM
Did anybody listen to the press conference interviews? Made me even more excited for this game. Also, saw this little gem. No idea if the betting site is accurate? No news has been covered in the media at all about the Pitt transfer QB Max Browne being injured?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2017, 03:05:33 PM
I can't post the image for whatever reason (it won't let me embed it into this post). But I can assure you, the image exists.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on August 31, 2017, 03:36:38 PM
NCAA FOOTBALL INJURIES
Last Updated: August 31, 2017 11:39 11 AM
Pittsburgh U
Date   Pos   Player   Injury   Status
08/25/17   OL   Alex Bookser   Suspension   expected to miss Saturday vs Youngstown State
08/25/17   FB   George Aston   Undisclosed   out indefinitely
08/25/17   DB   Jordan Whitehead   Suspension   expected to miss first 3 games of the season (eligible to return 9/23 vs Georgia Tech)
08/25/17   QB   Max Browne   None   has been named the starter
08/25/17   LB   Quintin Wirginis   Suspension   expected to miss first 3 games of the season (eligible to return 9/23 vs Georgia Tech)
08/25/17   WR   Tre Tipton   Knee   out for season

Looks here like Browne is going to play.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
Thanks Go, I think you're right. I think he is going to play.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 31, 2017, 08:52:54 PM
Browne is fine. Saturday can't get here soon enough.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 01, 2017, 12:50:58 PM
I think this will be a low scoring affair.  I think that we will have to get rid of the ball fast in order to move the ball downfield.  I think the OL is a work in progress.  We will miss Moss and Rivers.  I think Pitt will try to test our secondary.  They know we've lost a lot there.  It will be interesting, but I think this team will play them tough.  The are battle tested.  The MVFC prepares them for that adversity.  I think this one will be a close game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2017, 02:06:47 PM
Prediction scores for the game ?

I say 28-17 Pitt.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 01, 2017, 02:18:25 PM
If I go with what I would like, or rather my heart, I say 27-24 YSU.

But from my head, probably 42-24 Pitt.

My head really hopes my heart is right.   :o
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: dwj on September 01, 2017, 02:52:08 PM
I think the best we can hope for is to stay within 2 scores & come home with everyone healthy,  We will be facing a good QB, one of the top receivers in the country & a good coach who doesn't like YSU.  Go Penguins!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nick on September 01, 2017, 06:52:11 PM
I have not purchased a ticket yet but will do so tomorrow (probably from one of my favorite scalpers).  Where are the majority of YSU fans sitting? 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 01, 2017, 08:33:13 PM
I think this will be a low scoring affair.  I think that we will have to get rid of the ball fast in order to move the ball downfield.  I think the OL is a work in progress.  We will miss Moss and Rivers.  I think Pitt will try to test our secondary.  They know we've lost a lot there.  It will be interesting, but I think this team will play them tough.  The are battle tested.  The MVFC prepares them for that adversity.  I think this one will be a close game.
Bo would prefer a low score game this time around. We have the recievers that can get open on the Pitt secondary and a QB who can get them the ball, if our offensive line can give Wells the time he needs..this will be key in this game if want to have any kind of a chance
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 01, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
I have not purchased a ticket yet but will do so tomorrow (probably from one of my favorite scalpers).  Where are the majority of YSU fans sitting?

I know my group and I are sitting in section 110. I know others in Section 108, but I don't know if the majority of fans are sitting in 107. I think that would be my guess. But I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 01, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
I think this will be a low scoring affair.  I think that we will have to get rid of the ball fast in order to move the ball downfield.  I think the OL is a work in progress.  We will miss Moss and Rivers.  I think Pitt will try to test our secondary.  They know we've lost a lot there.  It will be interesting, but I think this team will play them tough.  The are battle tested.  The MVFC prepares them for that adversity.  I think this one will be a close game.
Bo would prefer a low score game this time around. We have the recievers that can get open on the Pitt secondary and a QB who can get them the ball, if our offensive line can give Wells the time he needs..this will be key in this game if want to have any kind of a chance

Fever, didn't you say that the oline pass rush defending was suspect from camp? Hoping this is not the case tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2017, 10:47:23 PM
O-Line and DB's are my biggest concern. We're gonna have to dominate the LOS to win the game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: peteonastick on September 01, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
Gameday!!  Let's rally around this team and get it done!  Pitt game is a $$$$ game.  Keep everyone healthy.  Get out with positives on both sides of the ball and special teams.  Don't get blown out.  Keep the team competitive the whole game and earn respect.  If it is close in the 4th then go for it.  If not...play it safe and keep everyone health. 

GO GUINS!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 02, 2017, 06:35:54 AM
It's gameday! Go guins!!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 11:02:13 AM
Let's get it boys!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 01:56:42 PM
This team is not making the playoffs. Nope.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 02:04:17 PM
This team is not making the playoffs. Nope.

Relax Francis! You wrote them off last year when #6 came back. Bench #6 till the 6th game bring him back LOL!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 02:12:42 PM
Our D line is decimated from injuries and the loss of the big 2.  Still not impressed with our WR's.  We are missing Webbs take it to the house moves. We are playing a money game. Get out with Hunter not getting beat up. Narduzzi still has that burning hate to what we did to our father. Fairly evident when he went for the 4th and 1 on his side of 50 up by 14.  We need to give Alessi a few reps.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: coachtress on September 02, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
Going for it again on 4th down.  Up by 14, sorry we fired your father, but in the end was a good move for YSU.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 02:17:42 PM
Our D line is decimated from injuries and the loss of the big 2.  Still not impressed with our WR's.  We are missing Webbs take it to the house moves. We are playing a money game. Get out with Hunter not getting beat up. Narduzzi still has that burning hate to what we did to our father. Fairly evident when he went for the 4th and 1 on his side of 50 up by 14.  We need to give Alessi a few reps.

Agree! They are bigger faster and stronger. I'm actually more impressed with YSU's D ??? Remember Pitt averages 40+ points a game from last year.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 02:19:13 PM
Where is Savon Smith ? Is he hurt ??? Big loss in the middle if so. Squiric is no longer with the program so that's all 4 starters along the D-Line missing from last year.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 02:19:57 PM
If the offense can't score, it's gonna be a long year. Wells with a missed throw cost them a chance at a TD. Kennedy is not a reliable FG kicker.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 02:24:38 PM
Smith has concussion.  The key to our offense and wells is the run to set up the play action.  Monty didn't establish that too many 2 and 3rd and longs. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
-1 yard rushing wont do it. Have to establish it on the series coming out half.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 02:53:40 PM
Don't trust Wells. Never will.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 02:56:13 PM
All the pressure is going to be on Montgomery and the offense to win this team some games. Should be interesting.....
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 03:14:31 PM
Sad you don't trust Wells.  The team and the coach does that is what matters. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 03:32:38 PM
Sad you don't trust Wells.  The team and the coach does that is what matters.


Like on that punt or whatever you call it ???? What a joke call. Game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 03:32:49 PM
That was piss poor lol, my god.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 03:32:55 PM
WOW How stupid are the YSU coaches?!?!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 03:33:14 PM
Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 03:35:10 PM
Again the YSU Defense will carry this team again this year. Fire Monty NOW!!!!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 03:36:03 PM
Embarrassing.

You and Penguin Nation need to go back to your safe spaces  :o
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 03:44:37 PM
"IF" YSU's offense was as good as advertised we'd won this game by 28  ???
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 03:44:50 PM
What a throw by Wells to hit turner!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 03:46:03 PM
What a throw by Wells to hit turner!

Love #6  fb
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 03:46:37 PM
Wtf is wrong with you guys.  The offense just clicked on Pitt isn't f***ing Akron.  They got talent.  It's a marathon not a sprint to Frisco have faith!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 03:52:14 PM
Wtf is wrong with you guys.  The offense just clicked on Pitt isn't ******* Akron.  They got talent.  It's a marathon not a sprint to Frisco have faith!

LOL!! I'm just trolling the anti-D guy's. We'll be alright!!  Gooooooooo Defense!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
We are in the game last qtr can't ask for more than that
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 04:00:05 PM
Please no penalty's!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSU1 on September 02, 2017, 04:02:25 PM
are you guys watching the same game.  YSU has out[played Pitt in the 2nd half.  We are tied and you people are complaining
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
are you guys watching the same game.  YSU has out[played Pitt in the 2nd half.  We are tied and you people are complaining

This is Y-Town fans,,, Never satisfied.

Carry on  ;D
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSU1 on September 02, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
overtime against Pitt an ACC team.  come on guys.  this is not Slippery Rock. I think they played well with a lot of new players.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 04:17:34 PM
overtime against Pitt an ACC team.  come on guys.  this is not Slippery Rock. I think they played well with a lot of new players.

I agree. I think this team has the potential to be better than last year.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 04:19:47 PM
Dammit....
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
The secondary has been stellar all day, bigger guy just out jumped our guy.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 04:23:26 PM
And that's EXACTLY why I don't trust Wells. That's absolutely piss poor. Kid folds under pressure. Booooooo
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 04:23:42 PM
Just an unreal stupid decision.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 04:25:46 PM
Just an unreal stupid decision.

So what. Didn't see anybody get hurt we got some $$ Like I said the offense is still the achilles heal of YSU football.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUinBoston on September 02, 2017, 04:27:00 PM
Hunter Wells is very bad at quarterbacking.  Every time he doesn't throw an interception is a minor miracle.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 04:27:09 PM
Just an unreal stupid decision.

So what. Didn't see anybody get hurt we got some $$ Like I said the offense is still the achilles heal of YSU football.

And you had a chance to win the game and he threw the ball right to him. Just unreal. Terrible.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSU1 on September 02, 2017, 04:28:38 PM
like the Pitt quarterback looked good.  I don't think so
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 02, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
Hunter Wells is very bad at quarterbacking.  Every time he doesn't throw an interception is a minor miracle.

Replace him with???? Fumble fingers #7? Broke arm MO transfer or run till you get your head tore off new WR??

He's won more than he lost. go root for another team "IF" you don't like him.

Carry on  ;)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 04:41:31 PM
He lost us the game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 04:42:14 PM
Hunter messed up but he outplayed the USC 5th year rent a qb for Pitt.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUinBoston on September 02, 2017, 04:43:06 PM
Hunter Wells is very bad at quarterbacking.  Every time he doesn't throw an interception is a minor miracle.

Replace him with???? Fumble fingers #7? Broke arm MO transfer or run till you get your head tore off new WR??

He's won more than he lost. go root for another team "IF" you don't like him.

Carry on  ;)

I didn't know Hunter Wells was that important to the program that you must accept his quarterbacking abilities to be a fan.  Who knew? 

The backups might suck too.  But, if the first read for Wells isn't open, you are playing Russian roulette.  It is obvious he doesn't have command over the whole field.  That was one of the worst interceptions I have ever seen in my life and there was no reason at all for it.  it's absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUinBoston on September 02, 2017, 04:52:24 PM
Hunter messed up but he outplayed the USC 5th year rent a qb for Pitt.

Well, that's true.  That Pitt QB was terrible.  Holy hell, he was afraid to throw downfield and his coaches clearly didn't trust him
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 04:55:16 PM
This Pitt team is terrible and this was such a winnable game. The days of playing these FBS games just for a money grab are over. We should be playing to win now. Hunter made some good throws I expect a senior to make. Also threw a pass to nobody in OT to lose the game... That stings. Kudos to the defense for holding strong in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Buddy on September 02, 2017, 05:05:19 PM
Sad part the game was lost in the first half.  We should have easily had 10 points in first half.   Still overall I thought we played well.  Had way to loose though! 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 05:10:05 PM
Sad part the game was lost in the first half.  We should have easily had 10 points in first half.   Still overall I thought we played well.  Had way to loose though!

The overthrow by Hunter on 3rd down killed us and then obviously the missed FG.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: guins4444 on September 02, 2017, 05:19:35 PM
In sum, what a tale of two halves. Enough disgruntled fans have commented on the negatives, and can't seem to find the slightest amount of optimism from this game. Great adjustments made my the O and D in the second half. Folks want to comment on how Pitt was lethargic in the second half, well maybe, just maybe YSU had something to do with how Pitt looked. The D looked great in the second half. After the piss-poor pooch punt that was blocked, our D showed that it has the ability to bear down and be stingy when placed in a far from ideal situation brought upon them by a special teams miscue.

The Pitt WR made a hell of a catch in OT to win it; nicely defended by who I think was our true frosh CB, Gibson. Speaking of True Frosh, how about Christian Turner? The boy has some hands out of the backfield.

It certainly wasn't an ideal finish, but sweet lord, who in there right mind thought we would score 21 unanswered in the second half and hold Pitt to 0 second half points. We all know Wells should've thrown that ball away… it certainly stings to think we let a winnable ball game vs. an FBS opponent go to waste. I like winning as much as anyone, but this game shows that winning should be a theme this year.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: DavedS on September 02, 2017, 06:16:41 PM
This Pitt team is terrible and this was such a winnable game. The days of playing these FBS games just for a money grab are over. We should be playing to win now. Hunter made some good throws I expect a senior to make. Also threw a pass to nobody in OT to lose the game... That stings. Kudos to the defense for holding strong in the 2nd half.
They may be terrible but all the oddsmakers had this game as an easy blowout victory for Pitt---no such thing as a moral victory imho but taking Pitt to OT isn't all that shabby in my eyes.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2017, 08:09:40 PM
I came by very impressed with Turner. He is on the road to be the next great YSU RB. Rader was great catching passes all game long. Reed seemed to cement himself as a starter and flashed that for sure D1 talent (Bonehead penalty aside). Really like Powell at safety as well.

Just can't fathom why you even pass the ball down there when he threw the pick, ugh. That's not a very good Pitt team. Should have been an easy win.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Wick250 on September 02, 2017, 09:57:32 PM
I have not felt this conflicted since we came from 28 points down to tie the 1992 championship game only to lose at the end.  All losses stink, but there are undeniably positive elements to this performance.

Pitt receivers are good but our secondary played exceptionally well.  It took that fine catch to beat us.

The defensive front was just a shadow of last year's edition, and they got manhandled in the first half. Did any of you really expect the turnaround from these guys after halftime?  Definitely something to build upon.

Over 100 yards rushing for the game seems inadequate until you realize that we stood (according to tv) at -1 at halftime.  The combination of McCaster and Turner will work out fine.

On the replay of their overtime td shot from behind the quarterback, did you all see one of the Pitt lineman grabbing at the helmet or the face of our pass rusher (maybe Reed?)  We are not going to get that call on the road but it would have changed everything.

Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 10:24:42 PM
This loss to me is meaningless in the scheme of what FCS is about.  We have come a long way from when Heacock treated these games as a pain in his ass.  Pelini has us on the right path.  Let's enjoy the ride!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2017, 10:37:18 PM
This loss to me is meaningless in the scheme of what FCS is about.  We have come a long way from when Heacock treated these games as a pain in his ass.  Pelini has us on the right path.  Let's enjoy the ride!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 02, 2017, 10:47:13 PM
Our depth was on full display.  Just like last year, we came on late in the game.  That is an excellent sign...the heart of a champion type of stuff.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on September 02, 2017, 10:48:55 PM
Hunter actually played pretty well. The ftwo passes floated to Bailey and the two bullets fired to Turner hitting him in stride were a thing of beauty.
However, the overshot to a wide open receiver (who could have scored) in the first half and the Interception at end of the game were really bad. I was sitting on the visitor's side looking right at the wide open receiver across the field in the end zone waving his arms trying to get Hunter's attention. There weren't any defenders within 15 yards of him. He must have waived for over 5 seconds, but Hunter never looked. He locked on to the receiver in the post (being tripled covered) and he never surveyed other receivers.
In the past, I have been critical of him about Locking onto primary receiver and never looked for secondary receivers. Apparently, he has not improved on that part of the game.
We have committed too many penalties.  Two plays really killed our momentum.... The quick quick and letting their QB scrambled for 14 yards on a second and 15 play.
Unfortunately, if our offense did not make couple stupid penalties causing us two potential field goals in the first half, we probably could have won the game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 02, 2017, 10:50:49 PM
Hunter actually played pretty well. The ftwo passes floated to Bailey and the two bullets fired to Turner hitting him in stride were a thing of beauty.
However, the overshot to a wide open receiver (who could have scored) in the first half and the Interception at end of the game were really bad. I was sitting on the visitor's side looking right at the wide open receiver across the field in the end zone waving his arms trying to get Hunter's attention. There weren't any defenders within 15 yards of him. He must have waived for over 5 seconds, but Hunter never looked. He locked on to the receiver in the post (being tripled covered) and he never surveyed other receivers.
In the past, I have been critical of him about Locking onto primary receiver and never looked for secondary receivers. Apparently, he has not improved on that part of the game.
We have committed too many penalties.  Two plays really killed our momentum.... The quick quick and letting their QB scrambled for 14 yards on a second and 15 play.
Unfortunately, if our offense did not make couple stupid penalties causing us two potential field goals in the first half, we probably could have won the game.

On the penalty they called an illegal block in the back they face-masked the RB.  No call.  Check out this stat:  They didn't have a single penalty.  ACC refs.   Got to beat them too.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 02, 2017, 11:04:50 PM
Hunter actually played pretty well. The ftwo passes floated to Bailey and the two bullets fired to Turner hitting him in stride were a thing of beauty.
However, the overshot to a wide open receiver (who could have scored) in the first half and the Interception at end of the game were really bad. I was sitting on the visitor's side looking right at the wide open receiver across the field in the end zone waving his arms trying to get Hunter's attention. There weren't any defenders within 15 yards of him. He must have waived for over 5 seconds, but Hunter never looked. He locked on to the receiver in the post (being tripled covered) and he never surveyed other receivers.
In the past, I have been critical of him about Locking onto primary receiver and never looked for secondary receivers. Apparently, he has not improved on that part of the game.
We have committed too many penalties.  Two plays really killed our momentum.... The quick quick and letting their QB scrambled for 14 yards on a second and 15 play.
Unfortunately, if our offense did not make couple stupid penalties causing us two potential field goals in the first half, we probably could have won the game.
Much much more of an issue was the fact that Pitt never punted in the first half. We need a TB. Wells was awesome today, but made mistakes clearly. Reminded me of Jaws, crisp low passes. Always in the safe area. Adjustments on both sides we good. We havd a lot of work to do, but such a good game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Double ET on September 02, 2017, 11:11:37 PM
Hunter actually played pretty well. The ftwo passes floated to Bailey and the two bullets fired to Turner hitting him in stride were a thing of beauty.
However, the overshot to a wide open receiver (who could have scored) in the first half and the Interception at end of the game were really bad. I was sitting on the visitor's side looking right at the wide open receiver across the field in the end zone waving his arms trying to get Hunter's attention. There weren't any defenders within 15 yards of him. He must have waived for over 5 seconds, but Hunter never looked. He locked on to the receiver in the post (being tripled covered) and he never surveyed other receivers.
In the past, I have been critical of him about Locking onto primary receiver and never looked for secondary receivers. Apparently, he has not improved on that part of the game.
We have committed too many penalties.  Two plays really killed our momentum.... The quick quick and letting their QB scrambled for 14 yards on a second and 15 play.
Unfortunately, if our offense did not make couple stupid penalties causing us two potential field goals in the first half, we probably could have won the game.

On the penalty they called an illegal block in the back they face-masked the RB.  No call.  Check out this stat:  They didn't have a single penalty.  ACC refs.   Got to beat them too.
Yes. I noticed that too, no penalty call on Pitt. The roughing the passer call was also marginal. Intentional grounding call on Hunter also killed our one drive.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 02, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
He lost us the game.
Biggest bunch of BS I ever read. How about 21 unanswered points against ysu in the first half? We never even forced a single punt. The game NEVER rides on one play. Hey 0-0 at the half and we win this game 21-0.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 02, 2017, 11:30:41 PM
He lost us the game.
Biggest bunch of BS I ever read. How about 21 unanswered points against ysu in the first half? We never even forced a single punt. The game NEVER rides on one play. Hey 0-0 at the half and we win this game 21-0.


We wouldn't have been in the game without him playing.  Thay being said, he is a senior and he needs to throw that one away.  Just my opinion.  Otherwise great performance
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 03, 2017, 08:44:53 AM
He threw the ball to nobody in the end zone. Sat back there for 5 seconds then when the pressure finally came, he just threw it up. Sorry, he doesn't get a pass from me. A senior shouldn't make that mistake.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 03, 2017, 10:03:17 AM
He lost us the game.
Biggest bunch of BS I ever read. How about 21 unanswered points against ysu in the first half? We never even forced a single punt. The game NEVER rides on one play. Hey 0-0 at the half and we win this game 21-0.




We wouldn't have been in the game without him playing.  Thay being said, he is a senior and he needs to throw that one away.  Just my opinion.  Otherwise great performance
Well said Power. Clearly he blew two crucial scoring pas attempts, but he played the best half of FB from behind the line of scrimmage I have seen in a YSU uniform in quite a number of years. #6 and # 7 were getting mugged all day and never a call. I liked how all the replays (said one ball placement) went our way. It just shows there was some poor/biased calling.

Again we need a TB to step up. McCaster is our thunder and we need some lightning. I like #20 with the ball but not on punt returns. He seems to have a couple of moves. We cannot rely on safeties again this year. Coach Carl has a lot of work to do. I cannot believe Pitt fell for it all half. MVFC teams will not.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 03, 2017, 10:23:22 AM
http://www.vindy.com/news/2017/sep/03/close-not-enough-for-bo/?newswatch&mobile Give Wells credit for taking blame. This game was lost going into half down 21-0. Just cant dig yourself that kind of a hole against a P-5 school early on and expect to come back and win. If Pitt had any kind of a field goal kicker, overtime would have never came into play. Their quarterback looked terrified to throw the ball downfield at times. I thought our staff made great adjustments at halftime, very pleased with the line play on each side of the ball in the second half, very little pressure on Hunter all day. Just glad we got out of this fairly healthy and were competitive. We have a very talented team that has a chance to be really good down the road !!
 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUGO on September 03, 2017, 12:16:25 PM
Let's build on this there were very many positives.  The refs have always homered us at Pitt with the BS calls. I wish we had another game against a lower FBS team instead of the BS games to help prepare for our league.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ucfpengbuck on September 05, 2017, 09:35:24 AM
I just got home(central Florida) from my OSU/Hubbard/YSU football weekend and suprised but not shocked at the reactions relating to Hunter Wells.  He made a terrible decision on his last throw but he made a lot of great throws to bring us back.    Without Wells we're not competitive in this game.

Side note.   Heinz field = pretty women.     Bloomington Indiana = Not so much.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on September 05, 2017, 10:07:01 AM
I just got home(central Florida) from my OSU/Hubbard/YSU football weekend and suprised but not shocked at the reactions relating to Hunter Wells.  He made a terrible decision on his last throw but he made a lot of great throws to bring us back.    Without Wells we're not competitive in this game.

Side note.   Heinz field = pretty women.     Bloomington Indiana = Not so much.
Bloomington must be really terrible, because other than cheerleades I didn't see much in PITT! 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penquin68 on September 05, 2017, 12:48:09 PM
Was at the game and what I saw was a Pitt team that was bigger than we were in just about every position.  To hold our own in the game was a success in my opinion.  For the most part the defense was in position to make plays but the size factor hurt us, especially in the first half.  Not sure what the difference was in the second half, but we sure looked better. Probably adjustments by our staff on defense and personnel changes. The defensive backs did well I think and will be ok as time goes on. On offense Hunter played well, but left some things on the field that could have really changed the game and gave us points in the first half to make it a different game overall. But the Pitt QB didn't look that good to me and will cost them if he doesn't improve. I think we will be fine this year.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on September 05, 2017, 01:29:28 PM
Was at the game and what I saw was a Pitt team that was bigger than we were in just about every position.  To hold our own in the game was a success in my opinion.  For the most part the defense was in position to make plays but the size factor hurt us, especially in the first half.  Not sure what the difference was in the second half, but we sure looked better. Probably adjustments by our staff on defense and personnel changes. The defensive backs did well I think and will be ok as time goes on. On offense Hunter played well, but left some things on the field that could have really changed the game and gave us points in the first half to make it a different game overall. But the Pitt QB didn't look that good to me and will cost them if he doesn't improve. I think we will be fine this year.
Roster for roster, size is about the same.  There is something about the YSU uniforms that make us look smaller for some reason.  I notice it a LOT, not just at Pitt.  We are big enough, but the uniforms don't do us justice.  BTW, IMO the Pitt uniforms are among the very best in football, any level. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penquin68 on September 28, 2017, 03:43:15 PM
I know this game is long past, but a point I am wondering about is the lack of penalty calls at the end of games or just in general.  If you watch the Pitt game on the play of their score in overtime, our number 4 is being held.  If that is called an entirely different game possibly.  Also in the Eastern Washington game last year on the Rader catch, he is definitely being held and again no call. In both cases almost no mention of these calls or non calls.  Then remember back to the end of the North Dakota State game when coach Bo lost it on the pass interference call. That foul was way less of a foul than the other 2 non calls.  Makes you wonder.  I know in a game calls go both ways, but some of these sure stand out to me.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 28, 2017, 07:58:03 PM
I know this game is long past, but a point I am wondering about is the lack of penalty calls at the end of games or just in general.  If you watch the Pitt game on the play of their score in overtime, our number 4 is being held.  If that is called an entirely different game possibly.  Also in the Eastern Washington game last year on the Rader catch, he is definitely being held and again no call. In both cases almost no mention of these calls or non calls.  Then remember back to the end of the North Dakota State game when coach Bo lost it on the pass interference call. That foul was way less of a foul than the other 2 non calls.  Makes you wonder.  I know in a game calls go both ways, but some of these sure stand out to me.


agreed
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on September 29, 2017, 08:31:47 AM
I know this game is long past, but a point I am wondering about is the lack of penalty calls at the end of games or just in general.  If you watch the Pitt game on the play of their score in overtime, our number 4 is being held.  If that is called an entirely different game possibly.  Also in the Eastern Washington game last year on the Rader catch, he is definitely being held and again no call. In both cases almost no mention of these calls or non calls.  Then remember back to the end of the North Dakota State game when coach Bo lost it on the pass interference call. That foul was way less of a foul than the other 2 non calls.  Makes you wonder.  I know in a game calls go both ways, but some of these sure stand out to me.


agreed
The ones that go against you are always the most noticed.  I believe the officiating this season has been generally quite poor.  Not bias, but poor.  We had a ton of no-calls that could have gone against us in each of the last 2 games.  Along with some very questionable ones that did go against us.  That crew last week thought we bought tickets to see them referee! 
I think the Rader no-call against EWU was perhaps the most blatantly bad missed call I've seen in YEARS.  Ref was right there and ate his flag!  That was a HORRABLE no-call, but nobody talks about it because we got credit for the catch and won the game. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 29, 2017, 12:32:12 PM
Then remember back to the end of the North Dakota State game when coach Bo lost it on the pass interference call. That foul was way less of a foul than the other 2 non calls.  Makes you wonder.  I know in a game calls go both ways, but some of these sure stand out to me.

What made that call so bad was that two series earlier they didn't call interference on NDSU.  Wells threw about a 40 yarder to Harvin down the YSU sideline, and the NDSU corner had a big chunk of Harvin's jersey in his hand as  the ball was getting to him.  If you're not going to call that one, then you can't call the one that went against YSU.  The inconsistency is what had Bo so upset.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 29, 2017, 01:56:12 PM
I know this game is long past, but a point I am wondering about is the lack of penalty calls at the end of games or just in general.  If you watch the Pitt game on the play of their score in overtime, our number 4 is being held.  If that is called an entirely different game possibly.  Also in the Eastern Washington game last year on the Rader catch, he is definitely being held and again no call. In both cases almost no mention of these calls or non calls.  Then remember back to the end of the North Dakota State game when coach Bo lost it on the pass interference call. That foul was way less of a foul than the other 2 non calls.  Makes you wonder.  I know in a game calls go both ways, but some of these sure stand out to me.

Said it before and will say it again, that was a huge thing. It was third down for them in OT and he threw it up and the wideout for Pitt made a great catch, but it should have never happened. The hold was so blantant. Anyway I have a great picture of it saved but can't post it on this site. It is an excellent picture of it.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 29, 2017, 04:44:17 PM
I know this game is long past, but a point I am wondering about is the lack of penalty calls at the end of games or just in general.  If you watch the Pitt game on the play of their score in overtime, our number 4 is being held.  If that is called an entirely different game possibly.  Also in the Eastern Washington game last year on the Rader catch, he is definitely being held and again no call. In both cases almost no mention of these calls or non calls.  Then remember back to the end of the North Dakota State game when coach Bo lost it on the pass interference call. That foul was way less of a foul than the other 2 non calls.  Makes you wonder.  I know in a game calls go both ways, but some of these sure stand out to me.

Said it before and will say it again, that was a huge thing. It was third down for them in OT and he threw it up and the wideout for Pitt made a great catch, but it should have never happened. The hold was so blantant. Anyway I have a great picture of it saved but can't post it on this site. It is an excellent picture of it.


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