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Title: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 01, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
Here is the 2 deep for YSU for the Pitt game:

QB:

1. Hunter Wells
2. Ricky Davis

RB:

1. Martin Ruiz
2. Jody Webb
3. Demond Hymes

WR:

1. Andrew Williams
2. Kintrell Disher

WR:

1. I'tavious Harvin
2. Isiah Scott

WR:

1. Andre Stubbs
2. Darien Townsend

TE:

1. Jacob Wood
2. Shane Kuhn

RT:

1. Justin Spencer
2. Jeff Rotheram

RG:

1. Brock Eisenhuth
2. Cameron Fraser

C:

1. Cole Newsome
2. Matt Bell

LG:

1. Dylan Colucci
2. Cameron Fraser

LT:

1. Trevor Strickland
2. Christian Wilson

DE:

1. Derek Rivers
2. Eric Myers

DT:

1. Cody Squiric
2. Emmanuel Kromah

DT:

1. Steve Zabrosky
2. Savon Smith

DE:

1. Terrell Williams
2. Avery Moss

LB:

1. Jamar Pinnock
2. Armand Dellovade

LB:

1. Jaylin Kelly
2. Mike Palumbo

LB:

1. Lee Wright
2. Dubem Nwadiogbu

CB:

1. Kenneth Durden
2. Kenny Bishop

CB:

1. Nate Dortch
2. David Rivers

FS:

1. Jameel Smith
2. Deion Hall

SS:

1. LeRoy Alexander
2. Tre' Moore

K:

1. Zak Kennedy
2. Connor McFadden

P:

1. Nick Sheely
2. Zak Kennedy

LS:

1. Steven Wehtil
2. Shane Kuhn

KR:

1. I'tavious Harvin
2. Andre Stubbs
3. Jody Webb
4. Andrew Williams

PR:

1. Kenneth Durden
2. Andre Stubbs

KO:

1. Zak Kennedy/ Connor McFadden
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 02, 2015, 10:12:40 AM
Liking that depth chart a lot.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 02, 2015, 10:39:16 AM
Me too! Feeling good about the team composition!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on September 02, 2015, 02:19:13 PM
Actually 2 deep in talent at most positions, which IMO was huge weekness in Wolford years. (and great strength in Tressel years)  Nice job BP and JT!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 03, 2015, 10:57:44 AM
Pitt fans have two schools of thought right now:
1. its going to be close (60 percent of pitt fans)
2. Its going to be a blowout (other 40 percent)

There is then a subgroup of 1 that feels scared for this game. They should be! Lets turn heinz field onto a sea of red (it is named for ketchup after all)!

Lets show pittsburgh why they should fear the Penguin! Ill be there cheering on every down. Hope to see you guys there!

Sidenote, there have been comments on how ysu traveled well last time (better than some P5 teams). Im hoping for an even better turnout by our fanbase. The bigger the turnout, the better motivation for our team.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on September 03, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
Pitt fans have two schools of thought right now:
1. its going to be close (60 percent of pitt fans)
2. Its going to be a blowout (other 40 percent)

Yes, but who do they think is going to win?  Go Penguins!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Petey on September 03, 2015, 12:41:19 PM
We got two going!! Beat em then head to the casino and take their money!!

GOOOOOOOOOO  GUINS!!!!!


BTW can you just head to the clipper for the tailgate or do you need tickets in advance?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: paladin on September 03, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
Before someone mis-speaks  again, go count how many Wolford players are in the 2 deep. Other than the 2 Nebraska transfers, I only see a couple of Pelini players. And those Wolford players got a ton of playing experience last year. That is why the expectations are good this year. The evaluation on whether Pelini can actually recruit here are still to be determined. 

Be careful what you say.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ScarletRook on September 03, 2015, 03:20:23 PM
No question Wolford could recruit.  The question was why couldn't they get beyond mediocre?
I think you have coaches on the current staff that can recruit so that is a big plus.  This season will be a big factor in Pelini recruiting.

The Pitt game will answer quite a few questions; however the next three games won't and I believe those first three home games do us no favors.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ucfpengbuck on September 03, 2015, 07:24:54 PM
Before someone mis-speaks  again, go count how many Wolford players are in the 2 deep. Other than the 2 Nebraska transfers, I only see a couple of Pelini players. And those Wolford players got a ton of playing experience last year. That is why the expectations are good this year. The evaluation on whether Pelini can actually recruit here are still to be determined. 

Be careful what you say.

How could it not be mostly Wolf's players.   Bo just had his 1st recruiting class.  2-3 years  from now it will be mostly all  Pelini's players.    Agree that there is a lot of returning experience and Wolf DID NOT leave the cupboard empty.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 04, 2015, 08:02:39 AM
Petey you can walk up and buy tickets game day. Lots of Pitt fans do it that way.

Only gotcha is that the last one back leaves Heinz a half hour after the game, so when we win and you're celebrating with the team keep that in mind.

http://www.gatewayclipper.com/shuttle/university-of-pittsburgh-football/
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 04, 2015, 08:03:52 AM
Petey you can walk up and buy tickets game day. Lots of Pitt fans do it that way.

Only gotcha is that the last one back leaves Heinz a half hour after the game, so when we win and you're celebrating with the team keep that in mind.

http://www.gatewayclipper.com/shuttle/university-of-pittsburgh-football/


edit: oops my bad you were asking about the tailgate boat. I got a thing in the mail with a deadline to sign up last Friday I believe it was. It didnt sound like walk up was an option
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 04, 2015, 08:16:06 AM
Petey you can walk up and buy tickets game day. Lots of Pitt fans do it that way.

Only gotcha is that the last one back leaves Heinz a half hour after the game, so when we win and you're celebrating with the team keep that in mind.

http://www.gatewayclipper.com/shuttle/university-of-pittsburgh-football/


edit: oops my bad you were asking about the tailgate boat. I got a thing in the mail with a deadline to sign up last Friday I believe it was. It didnt sound like walk up was an option


We forgot & had to head over on Friday. We too are hoping because we added two more to our party just this week with no boat tickets. So as to whether or not you can walk-up, I think it depends on how they are handing it. If the boat is staying docked, then they will probably let walk-ups board. If they are cruising ...maybe get there very early and see.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on September 04, 2015, 09:11:47 AM
Seems to me that Wolford brought in a lot of seemlingly good talent, but always had a ton of guys "in his dog house" and far too many players leave or not deveop in the program.  You are right, too early to tell about BP, but player attitudes certainly are better. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Petey on September 04, 2015, 09:21:21 AM
Thanks fellas.......getting ready to leave Cbus  at 11!!!!!

GOOOOOOOOOO  GUINS!!!!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 04, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
Keep hearing Bo is a players coach, really hasn't changed his attitude since he was at Nebraska both towards players and boosters. But he's also a guy who's not going to change, just his personality.  Let's hope tresses just keeps him away from a mic as much as possible
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 04, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
Keep hearing Bo is a players coach, really hasn't changed his attitude since he was at Nebraska both towards players and boosters. But he's also a guy who's not going to change, just his personality.  Let's hope tresses just keeps him away from a mic as much as possible

 :o Did Monty call you and ask you to discretely put this up on a fan forum  ::) Great insight ring knocker  8)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysubigred on September 04, 2015, 02:33:43 PM
Seems to me that Wolford brought in a lot of seemlingly good talent, but always had a ton of guys "in his dog house" and far too many players leave or not deveop in the program.  You are right, too early to tell about BP, but player attitudes certainly are better.

LOL you all kill me. "IF" Wolford had all the tallent you all claim he brought in Larry, Moe and Curly could have taken em' to the playoffs  ::) Oh wait,,, YSU did have the 3 stooges that's why there was a shake up this winter. Shame Curly was retained :)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 04, 2015, 03:29:09 PM
Looks like someone is sad they never did anything with their life past middle school. How disgusting.


Keep hearing Bo is a players coach, really hasn't changed his attitude since he was at Nebraska both towards players and boosters. But he's also a guy who's not going to change, just his personality.  Let's hope tresses just keeps him away from a mic as much as possible

 :o Did Monty call you and ask you to discretely put this up on a fan forum  ::) Great insight ring knocker  8)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 04, 2015, 07:28:21 PM
Alright everyone, debate is good, but lets focus on our shared fanship of the penguins and cheer them on against pitt tomorrow! #BeatPitt!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 04, 2015, 11:35:18 PM
GO GUINS ;)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 01:46:47 PM
GD Montgomery is the worse YSU OC we have ever had. Period. 1AA you keep tellng yourself that, your alone in that thought for a reason, the same reason your opinion on the subject doesn't matter.  Pelini has years and year and years of film of Narduzzis defense for him and he has 3 points in 3 possesions. FIRE THAT FVCKING AHOLE
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 05, 2015, 01:51:07 PM
Stubbs is a pussy.  He ran out of bounds
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
Stubbs is a pussy.  He ran out of bounds

Yeah because thats the only play, not like the OL getting owned play after play after play after play after play.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 02:28:14 PM
Monty has his chance at the start of the second half. Defense is keeping his pathetic coaching in the game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 02:28:33 PM
Montgomery sucks. Wells under throwing the ball. Newsome getting demolished on the line. All that momentum from the pick 6 is gone now... Unreal!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: JustGuinBaby on September 05, 2015, 02:33:32 PM
McFadden make an  EFFORT!! That was HORRIBLE!! Not only do his KO's suck but looked pathetic on that return. Put a shoe on!! We can't have 53 yard KO's!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
Our offense needs to step up. If they do this game is winnable. Defense playing better than I've seen in years. Lets hope for the 2nd half adjustments. Lets GO GUINS
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 02:47:35 PM
Why Kennedy isn't kicking off is beyond me...
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 02:53:47 PM
Can confirm at halftime, Pelini got in Montgomerys face at halftime and told him to get his head out of his fvcking a$$, Direct quote.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
LOL Montgomery is an un-real bad coach at developing QBs. Guy is praying every night that he has a job
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 03:14:18 PM
Wells is off and having Ruiz out hurts but Montgomery SUCKS a$$!!!!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 03:20:21 PM
Ball game, This game is on no one but Montgomery. had the ball inside Pitt 5 twice and only got 6 points. even getting 10 its a 31-23 game.  Defense has forced 4 turnovers, they've given YSU every possible chance to win.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 03:48:21 PM
I am so sick and tired of FU**KING Montgomery losing games for us. Unreal. Just unreal.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
I've never seen worse play calling since.... Lemme see last year. Shame on him.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 03:48:52 PM
LOL HAHAHA HANG ANOTHER L ON THAT RECORD MONTGOMERY YOU FVCKING BUM
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Yeah, let's keep running 5-8 Jody Webb up the middle!!! Makes sense Montgomery you bum!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 03:59:56 PM
i know for a fact we've had boosters pull out for Montgomery being kept around this year, hopefully we lose more boosters and the AD finally gets it that Montgomery is not welcome here.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
Great effort guins!! Too bad Montgomery let you guys down!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: SoupCity on September 05, 2015, 04:42:52 PM
Boy, if the offense would have done something....anything in the 1st half, this could have been VERY interesting.  But what should one expect from a "leftover."  Very frustrating.

Watched on ESPN3, how bad off is Ruiz?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Wick250 on September 05, 2015, 05:35:15 PM
According to the box score, Pitt finished with 458 yards; we had 407.  Much of that came in the fourth quarter when fatigued defenses on both sides gave up big plays.  Having the offensive line get totally dominated for much of the game by a below average P5 unit is, obviously, very discouraging. 

On the plus side, it has been many years since the defense was able to force turnovers against quality opponents.  Also, the team played hard till the end, something we had not always seen for the past few seasons.

On the matter of Montgomery, I have no expertise to evaluate an offensive coordinator.  I do know for a fact that Pelini was asked to interview all of Wolford's assistants but that the final selection of a staff was left entirely to him.  I am thinking that Pelini knows a bit more about football than all posters on this board.

93 and 05, children sometimes read this board and the use of inappropriate language is not proper.  There are plenty of English words that you can use to express your opinions without resorting to the "magic" ones.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 05:45:35 PM
According to the box score, Pitt finished with 458 yards; we had 407.  Much of that came in the fourth quarter when fatigued defenses on both sides gave up big plays.  Having the offensive line get totally dominated for much of the game by a below average P5 unit is, obviously, very discouraging. 

On the plus side, it has been many years since the defense was able to force turnovers against quality opponents.  Also, the team played hard till the end, something we had not always seen for the past few seasons.

On the matter of Montgomery, I have no expertise to evaluate an offensive coordinator.  I do know for a fact that Pelini was asked to interview all of Wolford's assistants but that the final selection of a staff was left entirely to him.  I am thinking that Pelini knows a bit more about football than all posters on this board.

93 and 05, children sometimes read this board and the use of inappropriate language is not proper.  There are plenty of English words that you can use to express your opinions without resorting to the "magic" ones.

Children shouldn't be here so its not my problem. They are entering a forum where its supposed to be for the most part adults talking and venting if need be, not for little kids.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 05, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
I'm still thinking 7-4 for the season, if I'm wrong....it'll be 6-5.  We lost to a team picked to be near the bottom of their division in the ACC...without key players Boyd and Connor (for most of the game).  We still face NDSU, SDSU who just beat Kansas, and SIU who is beating Indiana.

What's with the recurring low snaps, Mc Fadden's fear of tackling, and dropped passes?

The next two partial scholly 1AAA opponents  are not going to prime the team for the SEC of the MVFC.

On a postive note, LeRoy Alexander is a beast. Good to see the kicking game strong.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 06:24:59 PM
I'm still thinking 7-4 for the season, if I'm wrong....it'll be 6-5.  We lost to a team picked to be near the bottom of their division in the ACC...without key players Boyd and Connor (for most of the game).  We still face NDSU, SDSU who just beat Kansas, and SIU who is beating Indiana.

What's with the recurring low snaps, Mc Fadden's fear of tackling, and dropped passes?

The next two partial scholly 1AAA opponents  are not going to prime the team for the SEC of the MVFC.

On a postive note, LeRoy Alexander is a beast. Good to see the kicking game strong.

Kansas might not win a game this year, lets not act like they are better then Pitt or something. Pitt without Boyd and Connor would beat Kansas by 4 TDs.  Indiana is also closer to Pitts level than Kansas.

Rivers is going to be missed big time next year
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 05, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
I see the Debbie Downers are out in full force. We will be fine. If you left discouraged by that performance, please tell me why.

Are 5050 and 93 the same person? They seem to complement each other nicely complaining about Montgomery.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 05, 2015, 06:40:42 PM
@BoPelini: Never happy with a loss, but we showed today that we have the ability to be a pretty good football team. Time to get back to work. #GoGuins
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 05, 2015, 06:46:24 PM
I see the Debbie Downers are out in full force. We will be fine. If you left discouraged by that performance, please tell me why.

Are 5050 and 93 the same person? They seem to complement each other nicely complaining about Montgomery.

I see a sunshine pumper has decided to come out the woodwork.  We will not be fine with this offense, you dont win championships going 4 for 16 on third downs, period.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 07:26:07 PM
LeRoy Alexander is a stud, great pickup. Offensive play calling is horrible. Just like the last 4 years. Works against Saint Francis and Butler....
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
I was at the game, and while I was sad to see that we didn't capitalize on opportunities our offense had, I came out of this game pretty excited for the season. An upset would have been nice, but hell, I have not seen a YSU passing game that good in a long time. And our defense looks legit. Do wish our offense capitalized a little better, but that game was a hell of an effort by our penguins.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Buddy on September 05, 2015, 08:47:24 PM
I think we need to keep in mind this was Pitt. 1A vs 1AA.  Not Kent.  If not for the bone head special teams play at the end of the first half this would be a 1 point game
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 05, 2015, 08:52:10 PM
It would've been fine with me if a headset was tossed after the pass interference call.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2015, 09:00:47 PM
That should have been offensive pass interference! And I saw Pelini get in the refs face over that. That was one of two B.S. calls from that game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 05, 2015, 10:17:40 PM
I really think the injury to Ruiz was significant. To all the Monty haters out there it changed the offensive game plan up drastically. Boy would it have been nice to have Ryan Moore today there just isn't enough depth at the RB position.The passing game was solid considering the intense pressure Wells was under all day. To many dropped passes and the center needs to get the ball up it really messed the timing up all day. Offensively  Pitt capitalize big time on our 2nd level of defenders all day. That is the difference from  a F.B.S. power 5 school and the F.C.S level..overall it was just a great team effort and this type of game will only help the Guins in the long run.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2015, 11:02:38 PM
Completely agree. I kept asking the people around me, "Why isn't Ruiz in?". I like Webb and all, but if Ruiz was there for those short yardage situations... man. I hadn't even seen him get injured which was why I was more confused. Turns out he had a thigh bruise? Anyway, I did notice that our center snapped the ball soooooo low. It was basically on the ground a couple times. I don't think that was the difference maker though. Honestly, had Ruiz not gotten injured, I truly believe we would have won.

It was a loss yes, and I more than anyone wish we would have won (and should have won), but it was a good showing. MVFC is looking tough for this year, but I really hope and think we will be very competitive in conference.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 05, 2015, 11:35:11 PM
Why Demond Hymes wasn't in on that 4th down play is beyond me. Changed the whole game around....  Was hoping for some trickeration or a play action pass at least.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 06, 2015, 12:05:12 AM
I really think the injury to Ruiz was significant. To all the Monty haters out there it changed the offensive game plan up drastically. Boy would it have been nice to have Ryan Moore today there just isn't enough depth at the RB position.The passing game was solid considering the intense pressure Wells was under all day. To many dropped passes and the center needs to get the ball up it really messed the timing up all day. Offensively  Pitt capitalize big time on our 2nd level of defenders all day. That is the difference from  a F.B.S. power 5 school and the F.C.S level..overall it was just a great team effort and this type of game will only help the Guins in the long run.

Funny thing is you think there are such things as "monty haters" when its really people living in reality and monty knob slobbers.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 06, 2015, 01:14:03 AM
Pelini basically calling out Montgomery and his bad play calling in the press conference... Interesting.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2015, 01:15:27 AM
Watching Pelini's press conference, he seemed to get really irritated when talking about our inability to get that 4th and 1 play. Also, seemed very upset about something when he started saying, "I think it will be good for our coaches and players to watch this film. and I think sometimes it needs to happen for real before people say, ok maybe he isnt crazy. Maybe I need to do this better. I really need to understand because there it is, its right in front of you. We're going to find out... theres no reason we couldn't have won this football game." at about 2:50 into the interview. In any case, I think he's right. I think we learn from this loss and it makes us a better football team.

One fun fact, YSU is now one of 5 teams to ever put up 37 points or more on a Narduzzi defense since 2011:

Baylor
Ohio State
Oregon
Wisconsin
Youngstown State
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2015, 01:20:12 AM
Wow we both posted about the press conference. I'm not so sure he was just calling out Montgomery though. He was vague about it. Maybe he meant him, or maybe he meant him and the players. Hard to say definitively I think, but you may be right. Either way, I think another thing touched in our press conference spoke on our offensive woes in the first half. Not to put this on Hunter Wells (because he had a really good second half), but he had some obvious first game jitters. I think if he came in like he was playing at the end, man look out. Our blocking could have been better at times for him too though, so thats a part of it. Plus our receivers dropped a decent number of passes. It was a team effort on a number of things that lost the game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 06, 2015, 07:16:33 AM
Every time we play a good team and the game is on the line the offense doesn't get it done.  That is what I'm irritated and skeptical about.

Leroy Alexander is a freaking stud.  Reminds me of Dwight Smiley.

How did we get to referring to Montgomery as Monty?  That is just stupid.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 06, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
A team just scored 45-points against you and only their crappy QB kept it from being 59, but you look at the offense. You Monty haters know absolutely nothing about football. If we lose a game 85-80, you would still complain. "80-points is not enough...". What's the matter ...cannot win a game scoring 37 with over 400-yards of offense? "Oh we make no adjustments".  We went to a completely different offense in the second half and scored 24 of our 37. Where is the mention about how our defense was almost non-existent in the first-half? This one should have been ugly, and not in our favor. If Pitt could play football (execute), this one is over after the first two-series.

1. O-line was walked on all first half.
2. We lost Ruiz, so if you want to complain, ask coach M why we did not use Hymes more.
3. Webb made the choice to go outside and our line was man-handled.
4. Wells did not play well, especially in the first half. He has limited run skill and locks on receivers.
5. We could not kick-off at all.

Coming out of this game I question Wells, we have no kick-off game, O-line is suspect. Defense is improved, but far from good, highly out-matched the majority of the game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 06, 2015, 10:06:51 AM
Hey FB93 ...make your point in college educated language and it will stay. BTW ...nice to know your D can get a pick-6 ...now if you can figure out how to stop offenses from rushing for 325-yards against us?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YsuPride on September 06, 2015, 10:14:40 AM
The offense scored 30 pts on a ACC team.  Not bad.  Defense needs work though.  I believe we will improve each week under Pelini.  The only other team we will face with Pitt's talent is NDSU and Ill St.   So everyone needs to calm down.   7-4 or 8-3 season record I expect. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 06, 2015, 10:25:19 AM
Just look at the amount of negative plays we had on 1st down. You can't expect much success on 3rd down when your 2nd and 14 on a regular basis. Their D-line dominated plain and simple. I stated earlier the importance of touch-backs and it showed yesterday. On the bright side of things I believe the M.V.C. is down a notch from a year ago. Pitt could very well be the best team we face all season. What Pitt was able to accomplish with their outside run game yesterday will not happen in M.V.C. play to the degree it did yesterday
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 06, 2015, 11:01:52 AM
Just look at the amount of negative plays we had on 1st down. You can't expect much success on 3rd down when your 2nd and 14 on a regular basis. Their D-line dominated plain and simple. I stated earlier the importance of touch-backs and it showed yesterday. On the bright side of things I believe the M.V.C. is down a notch from a year ago. Pitt could very well be the best team we face all season. What Pitt was able to accomplish with their outside run game yesterday will not happen in M.V.C. play to the degree it did yesterday

Absolutely. Let the emotion of the game die down a bit, then look at what we did well the middle of the week.

There's a lot of positive there but our lack of depth showed at times. The conditions were awful, and Pitt could make wholesale changes. That's all to be expected. We played well until the end and didn't give up.

If Bo really did call out the OC let's hope that helps out instead of leading to pouting. I'm not sure the ego can handle it.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 06, 2015, 11:06:57 AM
Hey FB93 ...make your point in college educated language and it will stay. BTW ...nice to know your D can get a pick-6 ...now if you can figure out how to stop offenses from rushing for 325-yards against us?

im not concerned about it staying, your opinion doesn't matter. and if you question my intelligence in any way shape or form again ill be getting this website taken down, is that understood? it wouldn't be hard to walk right into ysu and have it taken down for one of 2 reasons, one your personal attacks towards my intelligence as a admin no less if this site is with the university, or two, for using the ysu brand name and logo without their permission, thats not a threat, its a promise.

BTW now if only our offense can figure out how to score without the defense playing backups and third stringers.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: nova75 on September 06, 2015, 11:14:41 AM
If you go to YSU to get the site taken down, perhaps you can sit in on an English class. Apparently you didn't get to many the first time around.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: pen4life on September 06, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
YSUFB93, take your meds, think peaceful thoughts and gnaw on some wood. peace out bro
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: penguinpower on September 06, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
If you go to YSU to get the site taken down, perhaps you can sit in on an English class. Apparently you didn't get to many the first time around.


This^^^^^^^😆
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 06, 2015, 11:44:03 AM
Just look at the amount of negative plays we had on 1st down. You can't expect much success on 3rd down when your 2nd and 14 on a regular basis. Their D-line dominated plain and simple. I stated earlier the importance of touch-backs and it showed yesterday. On the bright side of things I believe the M.V.C. is down a notch from a year ago. Pitt could very well be the best team we face all season. What Pitt was able to accomplish with their outside run game yesterday will not happen in M.V.C. play to the degree it did yesterday

Absolutely. Let the emotion of the game die down a bit, then look at what we did well the middle of the week.

There's a lot of positive there but our lack of depth showed at times. The conditions were awful, and Pitt could make wholesale changes. That's all to be expected. We played well until the end and didn't give up.

If Bo really did call out the OC let's hope that helps out instead of leading to pouting. I'm not sure the ego can handle it.
It's very easy to understand everyone's frustrations. I don't like to compare games but in 2012 we had 375 yards of total offense and forced 2 turnovers while not turning the ball over and won 31-17..in that game Hess had to do just enough and passed for around 170 yards. The fact Ruiz was out and the limited depth at Rb played into the Pitts defense hands..it was not in the cards to throw close to 40 times that's for sure..take away the Pitt bomb that wasn't even intended for that receiver and the kick return there's your 14 points and probably the game
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: guinpen on September 06, 2015, 11:54:48 AM
Hey this is simple, first game under a new coach, on the road against a higher division school and we lose by a td or so. Hey I never like to lose but I do feel good about the program at this point
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 06, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
Everybody knows my distain for Montgomery so until he proves to win a game with his late game play calling, I will not shut up. 4th and 1 with the game on the line and he runs Webb (Our smallest RB) up the middle where we had NO success all game long. I mean I just don't get it... No play action? No read option? No trick play? Thats the best you can call?

Regardless, if Ruiz was healthy and in the game, I think its a different outcome. Cole Newsome got man handled in the middle. Needs some work big time. Felt like there was a free rusher up the middle on every play. Rush defense also needs some work, a lot of missed gap assignments and missed tackles.

Was it me, or did we just look a step slow playing on that crappy grass field at Heinz? I mean we practice and play on turf all year long. Could have been a factor.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: IAA Fan on September 06, 2015, 12:07:14 PM
FB ...it is language ...not questioning your intelligence. Sorry if it came out that way, but I did not mean that at all.


It is not as if I did not see issues with the offense ...clearly I did. Montgomery is a system coach, so people are either going to like it or not. I already said our O line was crushed on every first down. Yes we should have scored more points than we did, but every play on both sides yesterday was big. YSU had the only consistent drive the whole game and it ended up with a FG. It was our first drive of the game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: JP21 on September 06, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
Everybody just needs to chill out.  You can't tell anything from playing this game.  Just like we will not know anything by playing those two garbage teams we will he playing the next two weeks.  A few years ago if anyone remembers we couldn't even score on an fcs team.  Can't blame the defense because the dedense was gassed.  The offensive line was the problem yesterday they were outmanned by Pitt.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: go guins on September 06, 2015, 04:54:46 PM
Who is this nut FB?  I certainly hope he doesn't claim to be an alumni, as he is barely literate.  In any case, what we saw was a case of playing a better team.  They were bigger, stronger, faster and if we played them 10 times we'd loose 9.  No crime there.  Thing to note is we played hard and focused for 4 full quarters in very difficult physical conditions.  We can be proud of the effort and looking forward to the rest of the season.  Remember, we played GREAT the last time down there and didn't make the playoffs. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2015, 05:09:01 PM
As a sidenote, panther fans were saying this regarding the game:
"Is this how far pitt has fallen? Struggling to beat a 1aa team? I dont understand, narduzzi is doing all the right things how do we beat delaware 62 - 0 last year and have this showing?"

One fan to another "We should stop scheduling Youngstown State."
"You know, normally I would tell you that is nonsense, but at this point I agree. Thats not, and will not be, a gimme cupcake game for us anytime soon."

Those things were said by pitt fans by me. At one point in the fourth when it seemed like they put us away, and then jody webb scored, I was singing with the band playing the fight song, and when i got to the Y the pitt fans nearby joined in. But didnt say the s or the u and they did it every time the Y came up. And i just looked at them and they said, "we are honestly just asking why. Why cant we put this game away?"
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 06, 2015, 05:47:10 PM
It's a funeral-type atmosphere on the Pitt fan forums.  You would think they just got blown out by Slippery Rock.  They b about the defense, the attendance, and stooping so low as to play YSU.  Everything but the tailgating...which by all accounts sounds like it was awesome.

It'll be interesting to see the outcome of the Akron game.  Personally, I think Pitt is going to open a can on Akron.

I think Pitt is a great OOC opponent.  BP said in an interview that it is good for recruiting.  I wish instead of going from the awesome hype of the Pitt game, we were going for another exciting OOC game....even against a G5 school.  Toledo's opponent left at halftime. Next time maybe they'll wise up and play YSU instead.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2015, 05:49:35 PM
Nation, I  believe toledo is wise and thats why they wont play YSU. We would be quite alot for any MAC team to handle.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Buddy on September 06, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
I was just looking at the stats for the game.   Very closely matched.  TOP 30 min - 30 min.  First down even. Total yards about even.  We won the TO battle.  They were better on KO returns. Two biggest factors were red zone scoring (they had 3 TDs and 1 FG and we had 2 FGs) and the stupid line drive kick at the end of the first. 

Game we could have won.  Very happy in general in what I saw
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 06, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
YO, very true.  But...Akron needs to get people in the seats at InfoCision ASAP....and YSU would be an answer.  Pitt won't bring em next week....they apparently wont even go to a home game where a new HC is debuting. 
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Maybe. Do you think Penguin fans would travel to Akron? I mean obviously some of them will. I was at the Pitt game this year though, and with all the hype leading into it for us with Bo Pelini as our HC, I felt that there were less penguin fans at Heinz for this game than there were in 2012 (as I was there for both). Maybe its just me, but if we didn't travel to Pitt, I wouldn't think we would travel so great for Akron either. Neither is that far away really. Maybe I'm wrong about the YSU attendance at the Pitt game.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 06, 2015, 07:37:30 PM
The number I've heard is there were 2K YSU fans at yesterday's game.  I was at the 2012 game and that seems about right for that game.  So if YSU brings 2K to the Info...it would be significant since Akron averaged 9K/game last year.  If anything it would likely be more because Akron is/was YSU's only true rival ever.

Pitt fans would never ever consider this, but I'd like to see a rivalry w/ Pitt.....maybe a Steel-River trophy?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ELPENGUIN on September 06, 2015, 08:12:46 PM
Get fb93 out of here.  Who does he or she think he is?  He or she  has power at the University......give me a break.  He or she seems like a gangster poster!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: guinpen on September 06, 2015, 08:31:32 PM
YO, very true.  But...Akron needs to get people in the seats at InfoCision ASAP....and YSU would be an answer.  Pitt won't bring em next week....they apparently wont even go to a home game where a new HC is debuting.

Akron stadium will never see a YSU fan in it until they agree to play at our house, and that just ain't going to happen. They will have to find people elsewhere
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 06, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
YO, very true.  But...Akron needs to get people in the seats at InfoCision ASAP....and YSU would be an answer.  Pitt won't bring em next week....they apparently wont even go to a home game where a new HC is debuting.

Akron stadium will never see a YSU fan in it until they agree to play at our house, and that just ain't going to happen. They will have to find people elsewhere

Why?  Akron is an FBS team (for now), and we haven't required a home and home from any FBS team yet.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 06, 2015, 08:58:41 PM
The number I've heard is there were 2K YSU fans at yesterday's game.
Maybe tix given from Pitt to YSU to sell. I would think that 2k is much smaller than the actual figure at the game. There was tons of red all across the visitors sidelines in the lower level.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 06, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
If you go to YSU to get the site taken down, perhaps you can sit in on an English class. Apparently you didn't get to many the first time around.

GLad you feel the need to trash the YSU education system, must not be a fan.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2015, 10:48:39 PM
I could understand why they would want a home and home to an extent. It would be a recruiting disadvantage to not do that. If we go there and they refuse to come to our house, we are basically admitting we are the "lower team" no matter how we beat them on the field. So... for the recruiting edge?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 06, 2015, 11:58:22 PM
As a kid, The games at the Rubber Bowl were really home game with a longer drive to the game. The stadium was mostly YSU fans.

Let's play them, beat them in their house, take their $$, and tell every recruit who the best team in NEO is.

It will be interesting how Akron fares with our common opponent next week.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 07, 2015, 08:06:53 AM
Pitt will kill Akron. Way fewer Pitt fans will go then should considering the distance and likely outcome.

With their huge alumni base in the area I am always baffled by the empty seats at Heinz Field.

We would take as many fans to Akron as Pitt will. There is nothing to gain for Akron by playing us.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ScarletRook on September 07, 2015, 08:13:05 AM
The number I've heard is there were 2K YSU fans at yesterday's game.
Maybe tix given from Pitt to YSU to sell. I would think that 2k is much smaller than the actual figure at the game. There was tons of red all across the visitors sidelines in the lower level.

It was a shame that YSU was selling student tickets for $40 (according to several students) when you could buy them from StubHub for $9.  I heard a group of students say they weren't going until they heard it mentioned during Penguin Playbook that you could get them online cheaper. 

Not sure how you can account for who the fan supports with 3rd party sales.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 07, 2015, 09:51:36 AM
YSU will never play the Zips unless they agree to come play at stambaugh and that will never happen. Plus, what incentive do they have to play us? They would get beat by a "lowly fcs" team and start losing recruits lol.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 07, 2015, 10:24:37 AM
Akron 14 point dogs to Pitt....at home.  I'd personally take Pitt even with a bigger spread.  Akron couldn't cover the +31 at Oklahoma.

The novelty of another steel-tire match would draw fans to the Info....Akron has tried everything else...including giving away tuition $$...they can't even pay their students to go.....another season of an empty Info and they will be desperate for solutions...and may consider playing YSU...and maybe even Horizon /MVFC or OVC membership.  The decision to drop baseball was only a beginning, IMO.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: YSUFB93 on September 07, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
Akron 14 point dogs to Pitt....at home.  I'd personally take Pitt even with a bigger spread.  Akron couldn't cover the +31 at Oklahoma.

The novelty of another steel-tire match would draw fans to the Info....Akron has tried everything else...including giving away tuition $$...they can't even pay their students to go.....another season of an empty Info and they will be desperate for solutions...and may consider playing YSU...and maybe even Horizon /MVFC or OVC membership.  The decision to drop baseball was only a beginning, IMO.

Akron has bigger things to worry about then sports.  If things keep heading the direction they are, ill say Akron is no longer a university in 5 years, and shutdown all together in 10-15
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Wick250 on September 07, 2015, 11:21:57 AM
For the benefit of younger posters, the MAC instituted a policy about twenty years ago that forbade its members from playing road games against IAA schools.  That became known informally as the "Youngstown Rule" and resulted from embarrassing losses that MAC members sustained in Stambaugh stadium against Tressel-led YSU teams.  Keep in mind that the MAC has operated for decades with the illusion that they are "big time," somehow the equals of P5 programs.  Astute fans know that is nonsense but maintaining that illusion is more important to the likes of Akron and Kent than making money. 

Yo, to respond to your question, every time that we played a football game in Akron or in Kent, YSU fans matched or outnumbered the home crowd, to the extent that you can call the gatherings that Akron and Kent draw "crowds."
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 07, 2015, 12:09:26 PM
Scarlet, I felt the same way. I got 15 tickets in the lower level of Heinz (section 109) for the YSU game and I got them for $33 a piece. I was the one who organized all that stuff for my group of friends (all YSU students), and when they saw that YSU was selling tickets for $7 more for much worse seats, they thought I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. It is what it is, but I remember in 2012 that I paid $30 for a ticket AND the bus there and back. This year, the bus was $50.00 alone!
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 07, 2015, 12:10:50 PM
Also, Wick and everyone, I wonder if the other reason we won't play them at home is because for a money game they won't pay us as much as a school in the Big 12 or ACC (or any other P5 conference) would?
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 07, 2015, 12:24:11 PM
James Conner for Pitt, torn MCL. Done for the year
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 07, 2015, 12:36:30 PM
James Conner for Pitt, torn MCL. Done for the year
That's a shame and to bad..Any news on Martin Ruiz? I think they will rest him as much as possible before conference play
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 07, 2015, 12:57:19 PM
Can't is paying FCS teams >$300K to play @ Can't. (I think we got $400K from Pitt).

Would anyone not trade playing partial scholly STFU or RMU for a short trip to Can't and watch the Flushes get beat down?  Did you see what IL did to them?


Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Wick250 on September 07, 2015, 01:04:25 PM
Yes, that sure will dampen the enthusiasm in Pittsburgh.  Must be a very scary situation for a future NFL player.  For us, we will not need Ruiz until the league opener in South Dakota.  Plenty of time to rest assuming there is no structural damage.

Two more things about the Pitt game and then I move on to the next one.  First, this bickering about offense versus defense is really silly.  Pelini stated it best in his post-game comments.  The loss was on the coaches, the offense, the defense, and the special teams.  Everybody has to get better.  Second, we are all overlooking an unfortunate coincidence that might have really hurt us in that contest.  Remember that Sims saw our offensive linemen every day in practice for several years.  He knew their strengths and weaknesses and was able to take full advantage of them with his superior athletes.  We can all hope and expect that no FCS team will neutralize our o-line as effectively as Pitt did.

Finally, one off-topic comment.  Did anyone notice that Nebraska and their "perfect gentleman" head coach lost at home to lowly (by P5 standards) Brigham Young?  They allowed a back-up quarterback to beat them with a last minute Hail Mary.  Hilarious.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: The YO Show on September 07, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
Nation, Yes please!!!! I would actually love that. Didn't realize they paid so high! Lets do it!

Fever, it is a shame. I'm surprised. He didn't seem to be hurting that bad. Man, Pitt is having so many injuries. I think that their strength and conditioning is down this year?

No update on Ruiz beyond what Pelini said in the after game press conference.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 07, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
For the first time in a long while, I don't think NE will get 9 wins.

And oh yeah, thanks to NE for paying our HC's salary.

Idiots.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: KilrpengWin on September 07, 2015, 02:57:33 PM
Hey FB93 ...make your point in college educated language and it will stay. BTW ...nice to know your D can get a pick-6 ...now if you can figure out how to stop offenses from rushing for 325-yards against us?

im not concerned about it staying, your opinion doesn't matter. and if you question my intelligence in any way shape or form again ill be getting this website taken down, is that understood? it wouldn't be hard to walk right into ysu and have it taken down for one of 2 reasons, one your personal attacks towards my intelligence as a admin no less if this site is with the university, or two, for using the ysu brand name and logo without their permission, thats not a threat, its a promise.

BTW now if only our offense can figure out how to score without the defense playing backups and third stringers.
Arrogance and Stupidity all rolled up into one, how fortunate for you! ::)
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: guinpen on September 07, 2015, 05:08:20 PM
YO, very true.  But...Akron needs to get people in the seats at InfoCision ASAP....and YSU would be an answer.  Pitt won't bring em next week....they apparently wont even go to a home game where a new HC is debuting.

Akron stadium will never see a YSU fan in it until they agree to play at our house, and that just ain't going to happen. They will have to find people elsewhere

Why?  Akron is an FBS team (for now), and we haven't required a home and home from any FBS team yet.

Mostly because they are not in a position to pay us the money that the real big boys can. I do not see us playing two "money" games. So unless they want to trade home games.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: Karl Hungus on September 07, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
Won't happen  . I was lucky enough to see Akron @ YSU in 1990. I did not have to shower that night.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 07, 2015, 09:21:38 PM
Another thing to note.... Dubem did not play at all during this game as he's battling a hamstring injury. Leading tackler last year us.
Title: Re: Pitt Game
Post by: ScarletRook on September 07, 2015, 11:51:23 PM
Scarlet, I felt the same way. I got 15 tickets in the lower level of Heinz (section 109) for the YSU game and I got them for $33 a piece. I was the one who organized all that stuff for my group of friends (all YSU students), and when they saw that YSU was selling tickets for $7 more for much worse seats, they thought I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. It is what it is, but I remember in 2012 that I paid $30 for a ticket AND the bus there and back. This year, the bus was $50.00 alone!

Saw several members of the Cross Country team at Pitt.  Did you have anything to do with getting them there?  Either way - Hand Salute!