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Post game call in show said Ruiz was first half suspension. Still doesn't explain him not playing second half really.
May have been because Jody was doing so well and Bo possibly wanted to get his point across to Ruiz.
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Post game call in show said Ruiz was first half suspension. Still doesn't explain him not playing second half really.
May have been because Jody was doing so well and Bo possibly wanted to get his point across to Ruiz.
Got the word on Ruiz and several other players. I think you are all going to be very disappointed when the word comes out. Let's put it this way. Several starters will not be making the trip to EWU.
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Post game call in show said Ruiz was first half suspension. Still doesn't explain him not playing second half really.
May have been because Jody was doing so well and Bo possibly wanted to get his point across to Ruiz.
Got the word on Ruiz and several other players. I think you are all going to be very disappointed when the word comes out. Let's put it this way. Several starters will not be making the trip to EWU.
That's horrible news!
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Post game call in show said Ruiz was first half suspension. Still doesn't explain him not playing second half really.
May have been because Jody was doing so well and Bo possibly wanted to get his point across to Ruiz.
Got the word on Ruiz and several other players. I think you are all going to be very disappointed when the word comes out. Let's put it this way. Several starters will not be making the trip to EWU.
I just heard the same thing you did. Unbelievable that kids can be that stupid
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please share what you know...
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How many starters? How will it reflect the depth chart?
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I heard 4 starters and one sub-starter.
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How many on each side of the ball?
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There is no point for this discussion unless we actually get specifics. We won't hold you to the same high journalistic integrity that ESPN has ;)
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I heard 4 starters and one sub-starter.
That could be the death blow before we even hit the field. I can't wait to hear the details here >:(
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There is no point for this discussion unless we actually get specifics
I agree..Bo has done a tremendous job of turning the culture of this program around and it's all about life lessons then wins and losses, but this could not come at a worse time if true
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2 offense
2 defense
1 not sure
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2 offense
2 defense
1 not sure
Just say the names if you know. Don't hide.
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I will message them if you want.
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The information aboe is 100% accurate. I have a friend in the athletic department at YSU, he told me a day before it was public that Pelini would be the coach, and I was also told two months ago that Hunter Wellls would return at QB, and I posted here.
My friend is not a gossip, he and the entire athletic department are devastated by this news.
At least 3 starters, and at least 2 other players will be suspended Saturday night. I don't think it is responsible to post names of players. YSU will try and bury this, but it is out there, and then need to get out in front of this.
What's sad is that a time when the football program should be excited and celebrating, there is a dark cloud hanging over them.
All of you can figure out the one player, he only played one play Saturday.
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The information aboe is 100% accurate. I have a friend in the athletic department at YSU, he told me a day before it was public that Pelini would be the coach, and I was also told two months ago that Hunter Wellls would return at QB, and I posted here.
My friend is not a gossip, he and the entire athletic department are devastated by this news.
At least 3 starters, and at least 2 other players will be suspended Saturday night. I don't think it is responsible to post names of players. YSU will try and bury this, but it is out there, and then need to get out in front of this.
What's sad is that a time when the football program should be excited and celebrating, there is a dark cloud hanging over them.
All of you can figure out the one player, he only played one play Saturday.
Let us hope they do not include: 3,5,9,11 on D and 6,20 on O
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1990 can you tell me if this is a player only issue?
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C'mon guys, this is obviously an internal matter. No need to make it public for everyone to see. Until they make it public, let's not speculate and tarnish the images of these young men.
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C'mon guys, this is obviously an internal matter. No need to make it public for everyone to see. Until they make it public, let's not speculate and tarnish the images of these young men.
How can it be "obviously an internal matter" when I read about it on a blog and I am going to know the names of the players when they take the field in EWU Saturday? What this is, is a "slow release public matter".
Ask Hillary Clinton how the slow release method keeps everything under wraps! Any attempt at coverup only makes it worse, and doesn't hid a thing.
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C'mon guys, this is obviously an internal matter. No need to make it public for everyone to see. Until they make it public, let's not speculate and tarnish the images of these young men.
How can it be "obviously an internal matter" when I read about it on a blog and I am going to know the names of the players when they take the field in EWU Saturday? What this is, is a "slow release public matter".
Ask Hillary Clinton how the slow release method keeps everything under wraps! Any attempt at coverup only makes it worse, and doesn't hid a thing.
I personally have no idea what these players have done and it is very worrisome how some are describing it. I'd much prefer someone just say what they did than leaving the door open to a wide variety of things that these players might have done. I hope it's not too serious.
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Selfish is all I can think of. Not caring about teammates, school, coaches, family, nor is fans who have stuck by this team through the best of times and the worst. Selfish!!
Go Guins!!
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Selfish is all I can think of. Not caring about teammates, school, coaches, family, nor is fans who have stuck by this team through the best of times and the worst. Selfish!!
Go Guins!!
I "get" the selfish comment, but I don't think this was something they thought out and made a conscious decision to do something for their benefit, at the expense of the team. Because we demand the "slow release" method of disclosure and can I only speculate at this point, I bet it was probably a bunch of "kids" acting as kids do, dumbly and without thinking.
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Vindy reports 12 players tested following Jacksonville State game. Four players will be suspended for substance abuse.
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YSU is not used to playing in December. The kids need to understand this is what you play for.
Why did they play against Wofford???????
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YSU is not used to playing in December. The kids need to understand this is what you play for.
Why did they play against Wofford???????
Because that's the Pelini M.O.
Is anyone really shocked? I mean, there is a reason Randy Gregory is where he is and there is a reason Alexander ever stepped foot in Youngstown.
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This is reported on the Vindy:
YOUNGSTOWN — Two sources have confirmed to The Vindicator that at least four Youngstown State University football players will be suspended from Saturday's FCS national semifinal game against Eastern Washington for testing positive for an unknown substance.
At least 12 Penguin football players were subjected to routine testing after the Jacksonville State game on Dec. 3.
This is a breaking news story. Watch Vindy.com for updates.
Don't Miss a Story
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If I said every single high school player and every single college player and every single NFL player uses PED's I'd be closer to the truth than any other comment you will read. Kid comes out of high school 6-3 230 OT and redshirts a year and is 6-4 320 OL in some 18 months and you think that is natural? Sorry, no. But with random testing and pretty much -0- off season, and designer drugs it is rare anybody gets caught.
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This is speculation, but I suspect that they did a random after the Jax State game and one of them popped. Once that happened they tested the rest of the team and got the results the following week (this week). Now they have a bigger issue in their hands because it wasn't limited to one player. Makes sense to me because I drug test my employees and that's sort of how it works. They probably just found out about the other players late yesterday. They wouldn't have knowingly played them. Some people need to use their critical thinking skills on here
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If I said every single high school player and every single college player and every single NFL player uses PED's I'd be closer to the truth than any other comment you will read. Kid comes out of high school 6-3 230 OT and redshirts a year and is 6-4 320 OL in some 18 months and you think that is natural? Sorry, no. But with random testing and pretty much -0- off season, and designer drugs it is rare anybody gets caught.
I agree with you Guin 100%
But they aren't being suspended for PED's
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Probably not PEDs, probably Ganja. Thats what kids this age do. It is all speculation.
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If I said every single high school player and every single college player and every single NFL player uses PED's I'd be closer to the truth than any other comment you will read. Kid comes out of high school 6-3 230 OT and redshirts a year and is 6-4 320 OL in some 18 months and you think that is natural? Sorry, no. But with random testing and pretty much -0- off season, and designer drugs it is rare anybody gets caught.
I agree with you Guin 100%
But they aren't being suspended for PED's
If not PED's then it goes back to my other post (no sense sticking to one opinion, it's a blog!) and it's kids being stupid, unthinking kids and doing something dumb.
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Disgraceful. But worse than than personal shame is how it hurts everyone else doings things right. How selfish can you be?
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It has been 10 years since YSU has been in the play-offs. This is disappointing that this has happened. (kids or no kids)
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It has been 10 years since YSU has been in the play-offs. This is disappointing that this has happened. (kids or no kids)
I'm fine with your comment and I too am VERY DISAPOINTED! It is their loss. I'll be just fine win or lose, they lose and they will never get that off their back for the rest of their lives. Tragic.
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Probably not PEDs, probably Ganja. Thats what kids this age do. It is all speculation.
Bingo - no speculation..nailed it.
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Probably not PEDs, probably Ganja. Thats what kids this age do. It is all speculation.
Bingo - no speculation..nailed it.
Stupid.
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Probably not PEDs, probably Ganja. Thats what kids this age do. It is all speculation.
Bingo - no speculation..nailed it.
I'm class of '73, WTF is Ganja?
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Probably not PEDs, probably Ganja. Thats what kids this age do. It is all speculation.
Bingo - no speculation..nailed it.
I'm class of '73, WTF is Ganja?
Weed
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Weed? We still suspend guys for weed? If we are going to stay in the middle ages, why don't we just subject them to the rack for weed? Bo should let them play and suspend them from the prom! (and remember, I'm class of '73)
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Weed? We still suspend guys for weed? If we are going to stay in the middle ages, why don't we just subject them to the rack for weed? Bo should let them play and suspend them from the prom! (and remember, I'm class of '73)
Randy Gregory agrees.
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Weed? We still suspend guys for weed? If we are going to stay in the middle ages, why don't we just subject them to the rack for weed? Bo should let them play and suspend them from the prom! (and remember, I'm class of '73)
Randy Gregory agrees.
Randy Gregory is right! This is as dumb as ignoring the current stupid rules.
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Weed? We still suspend guys for weed? If we are going to stay in the middle ages, why don't we just subject them to the rack for weed? Bo should let them play and suspend them from the prom! (and remember, I'm class of '73)
Randy Gregory agrees.
Randy Gregory is right! This is as dumb as ignoring the current stupid rules.
The rules that state it's illegal? Yea, just follow the damn rules and stay eligible. Or, continue to let them get away with it and ruin the rest of their lives.
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Couldn't wait until January 8!!!???
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Is it legal to do weed if you play in Colorado? The world may never know because Colorado will never play for anything meaningful (at least for the foreseeable future)
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Couldn't wait until January 8!!!???
Right! Impact the probability of your teammates success for your piss poor decisions. Maybe they all should be booted.
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I am lost as to why Ruiz was the only disciplined this past Saturday. Did he do something else to receive that?
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The penalties use to be more severe up to a half season of eligibility on the 1st offense for cannabis ( If indeed that what it is )..Things have drastically changed since then and the penalties are much lighter ( Just unfortunate it's in a national semifinal game ) The NCAA spends over 6 million a year to educate student athletes on this very topic..I can't imagine Bo will be a happy camper tonight at O'Charley's
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Is it legal to do weed if you play in Colorado? The world may never know because Colorado will never play for anything meaningful (at least for the foreseeable future)
We aren't playing in Colorado, but we are playing in Washington and grass is legal there! This should be voided.
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It's just dumb and selfish. No other words to describe it. Next man up!!
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It's just dumb and selfish. No other words to describe it. Next man up!!
Yep, next sober man up!
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Probably not PEDs, probably Ganja. Thats what kids this age do. It is all speculation.
Bingo - no speculation..nailed it.
I'm class of '73, WTF is Ganja?
You have me by almost 10, It was just before my time, but the word became famous from Cheech & Chong. They were meeting up with some Jamaican dealer. It was slang for weed.
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I wish we were talking about the game instead of this
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Can anyone confirm that Ruiz missed game Saturday counts his 1-game suspension? Or is it deeper than that?
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how often does the NCAA drug test
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Knowing how petty the NCAA is, they wouldn't even count the first half that Ruiz sat out. He did take the field in the 2nd half, so best case scenario is maybe he has to sit out a half. I am, of course, purely speculating.
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WKBN at 5 is stating they "will not release names". Also saying YSU will not comment. I think it's safe to say it's Ruiz. But, who else?
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I am lost as to why Ruiz was the only disciplined this past Saturday. Did he do something else to receive that?
Read my previous post. Only 13 players were required at random in Jacksonville. Once a person pops on the test a larger sample size is then gathered. It probably took time to get initial results back, then plan the screening and execute it then wait for the results. That was my point about critical thinking. The other players were likely not tested at Jax State. They were probably tested at YSU late in the week once they got the results back on the first guy.
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how often does the NCAA drug test
After every playoff game. The winning team. 12 random players.
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how often does the NCAA drug test
After every playoff game. The winning team. 12 random players.
Sorry meant 12
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Charles Grove reporting 1 impact player on offense, 2 impact players on defense and a 4th that plays a significant role he didn't say if that player was offense or defense. There will be a story in tonight's Vindicator and those players will not be making the trip. I think this is a high number to test positive out of the 12 that were tested..Very concerning
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Charles Grove reporting 1 impact player on offense, 2 impact players on defense and a 4th that plays a significant role he didn't say if that player was offense or defense. There will be a story in tonight's Vindicator and those players will not be making the trip. I think this is a high number to test positive out of the 12 that were tested..Very concerning
I think everyone has the concept wrong. One person, (probably Ruiz because he sat out) popped on the screen from the 12 players tested in Jacksonville.
The probably got the results back last week....let's say Wednesday for the sake of discussion. On Wed YSU gets a call from NCAA saying one of your guys popped. Okay we need to call a screening company and get the team in here for additional testing. This probably happened on Friday. Then we play the game on Saturday and only Ruiz is out but he accidently get in for one play ( don't fully understand that). Sunday the results are emailed by the results are sent to the NCAA then they call YSU and they say 4 more popped.
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WKBN at 5 is stating they "will not release names". Also saying YSU will not comment. I think it's safe to say it's Ruiz. But, who else?
Well Alesi, Scott and Damon Patteson were in for most of the game, which is unusual. So let's look at the participation at WR and returns. I think I know who might one of the others on offense. Not my position to gossip or speculate. We have to get this out and get back to work!! Like Power and Chief said ..."next man up". These guys are not invincible.
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Everyone will know soon enough. Will be interesting to see the roster.
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Probably not PEDs, probably Ganja. Thats what kids this age do. It is all speculation.
Bingo - no speculation..nailed it.
I'm class of '73, WTF is Ganja?
You have me by almost 10, It was just before my time, but the word became famous from Cheech & Chong. They were meeting up with some Jamaican dealer. It was slang for weed.
I am the class of 71. I thought it was called Grass back then.
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At the radio show - 27 here already and Heard 21 and Vindicator coming. If it bleeds it leads.
Go Guins!
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Check that. Stan Boney just left. I think there was an argument about them being here.
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At the radio show - 27 here already and Heard 21 and Vindicator coming. If it bleeds it leads.
Go Guins!
Which radio station?
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It is what it is, if rules were broken then pay the price. Does not matter who it was at this point, we will know on Sat.
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At the radio show - 27 here already and Heard 21 and Vindicator coming. If it bleeds it leads.
Go Guins!
Which radio station?
570. WKBN
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Weed? We still suspend guys for weed? If we are going to stay in the middle ages, why don't we just subject them to the rack for weed? Bo should let them play and suspend them from the prom! (and remember, I'm class of '73)
Randy Gregory agrees.
Randy Gregory is right! This is as dumb as ignoring the current stupid rules.
The rules that state it's illegal? Yea, just follow the damn rules and stay eligible. Or, continue to let them get away with it and ruin the rest of their lives.
Weed is going to run the rest of their lives?
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Weed? We still suspend guys for weed? If we are going to stay in the middle ages, why don't we just subject them to the rack for weed? Bo should let them play and suspend them from the prom! (and remember, I'm class of '73)
Randy Gregory agrees.
Randy Gregory is right! This is as dumb as ignoring the current stupid rules.
The rules that state it's illegal? Yea, just follow the damn rules and stay eligible. Or, continue to let them get away with it and ruin the rest of their lives.
Weed is going to run the rest of their lives?
And will be legalized everywhere in the next 3 years
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We don't need a weed debate. This is a football board. It is not legal and they know what comes after a game. Opinions are just what they are.
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You are right, it isn't a board about weed. It's just hard to ignore messages like " weed is going to ruin their lives." It's 2016 not 1950 so if someone is going to comment about it please be educated.
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no mention on the radio show. what is it a secret
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You are right, it isn't a board about weed. It's just hard to ignore messages like " weed is going to ruin their lives." It's 2016 not 1950 so if someone is going to comment about it please be educated.
Still just an opinion and as valid as yours. If not more given what just happened. The rule is simple, I am simply amazed that this happened ...if indeed it did.
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As much as we want to know...there's no reason to let it out. As much as it will hover around who it could be...it will make EWU prepare for all scenarios. There's no reason to tell them how we will be changing our game plan. I expect it to stay tight lipped until it is obvious.
Z
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Bo declined a interview by Grove and said he doesn't talk about that kind of stuff. I thought he was up beat and positive talking about the Wofford win and the upcoming Eastern Washington game. At this point it is what it is and we have a game to play..Team will be leaving Thursday instead of Friday
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Bo declined a interview by Grove and said he doesn't talk about that kind of stuff. I thought he was up beat and positive talking about the Wofford win and the upcoming Eastern Washington game. At this point it is what it is and we have a game to play..Team will be leaving Thursday instead of Friday
I agree Fever, it is what it is. Next man up.
We should be able to run on Eastern Washington. If we can control the clock and keep their offense off the field I like our chances. Must play a mistake free game
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Bottom line is that this team has done a yeoman's job in getting this far...can't let a few bad apples ruin the bunch! We will see what kind of senior leadership we have on this team now!
GO GUINS!
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Bottom line is that this team has done a yeoman's job in getting this far...can't let a few bad apples ruin the bunch! We will see what kind of senior leadership we have on this team now!
GO GUINS!
Spot on. We've overcome significant adversity. People will just need to step it up.
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You are right, it isn't a board about weed. It's just hard to ignore messages like " weed is going to ruin their lives." It's 2016 not 1950 so if someone is going to comment about it please be educated.
Still just an opinion and as valid as yours. If not more given what just happened. The rule is simple, I am simply amazed that this happened ...if indeed it did.
It's actually not an opinion. The medicinal benefits of it have been proven. So safe to say it's not ruining anyone's life.
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You are right, it isn't a board about weed. It's just hard to ignore messages like " weed is going to ruin their lives." It's 2016 not 1950 so if someone is going to comment about it please be educated.
Still just an opinion and as valid as yours. If not more given what just happened. The rule is simple, I am simply amazed that this happened ...if indeed it did.
It's actually not an opinion. The medicinal benefits of it have been proven. So safe to say it's not ruining anyone's life.
Medical benefits, you say? If so, the kid behind me in line at the Liberty Wally World the other night is going to live forever. ;)
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Haha let's not get carried away there Ed 😉
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Could be worse...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2681480-wmu-basketball-player-joeviair-kennedy-charged-with-murder-of-fellow-student?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
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Weed? We still suspend guys for weed? If we are going to stay in the middle ages, why don't we just subject them to the rack for weed? Bo should let them play and suspend them from the prom! (and remember, I'm class of '73)
Randy Gregory agrees.
Randy Gregory is right! This is as dumb as ignoring the current stupid rules.
The rules that state it's illegal? Yea, just follow the damn rules and stay eligible. Or, continue to let them get away with it and ruin the rest of their lives.
Weed is going to run the rest of their lives?
No, not at all. But teaching someone that they are above the rules will 100% ruin the rest of their life and Randy Gregory is living proof of that. I could not care less about what it is, follow the rules or you're going to be in trouble. Letting someone to skate by does them no good. That is my point.
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It's actually not an opinion. The medicinal benefits of it have been proven. So safe to say it's not ruining anyone's life.
While I'm 100% pro legalization, there the medical benefits have not been proven to have any healing, more pain relief which is not as long term damaging as many pain relievers.
However, that isn't the point. The point is following rules. Pelini allowing Randy to do whatever he pleased and not suspend him for repeated drug violations has caused him to continue his issues in the NFL.
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It's actually not an opinion. The medicinal benefits of it have been proven. So safe to say it's not ruining anyone's life.
While I'm 100% pro legalization, there the medical benefits have not been proven to have any healing, more pain relief which is not as long term damaging as many pain relievers.
However, that isn't the point. The point is following rules. Pelini allowing Randy to do whatever he pleased and not suspend him for repeated drug violations has caused him to continue his issues in the NFL.
At some point the young man needs to become responsible for himself. Can't babysit everyone 24/7.
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Disagree 100%, cover-up always worse than the crime, Tressel should know better from what happened at Ohio State. Get out in front of this and move on. Now all kinds of speculation; heroin, cocaine, etc.
If this were a big time media town, YSU would be getting roasted for this kind of behavior, they can't bury this one.
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Disagree 100%, cover-up always worse than the crime, Tressel should know better from what happened at Ohio State. Get out in front of this and move on. Now all kinds of speculation; heroin, cocaine, etc.
If this were a big time media town, YSU would be getting roasted for this kind of behavior, they can't bury this one.
I don't see anyone covering anything up. I'm sure they are waiting for the NCAA to give them their final ruling on it. This isn't cut and dry. We don't know if it's any of the kids first offense. If it's weed for all the players. Heck one could be adderral, then you have to file papers from a doctor saying he is aloud to take it.
Bo will have his weekly press conference at 11:30 and we should all find out more than. I still don't think he will name names. I don't blame him if he doesn't say who the players are.You don't want Eastern Washington to know.
As for the players they who they are and what it may have cost this team and how they let their teammates down.
I still think with the players that will be suspended YSU has a good chance of winning.
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Disagree 100%, cover-up always worse than the crime, Tressel should know better from what happened at Ohio State. Get out in front of this and move on. Now all kinds of speculation; heroin, cocaine, etc.
If this were a big time media town, YSU would be getting roasted for this kind of behavior, they can't bury this one.
I don't see anyone covering anything up. I'm sure they are waiting for the NCAA to give them their final ruling on it. This isn't cut and dry. We don't know if it's any of the kids first offense. If it's weed for all the players. Heck one could be adderral, then you have to file papers from a doctor saying he is aloud to take it.
Bo will have his weekly press conference at 11:30 and we should all find out more than. I still don't think he will name names. I don't blame him if he doesn't say who the players are.You don't want Eastern Washington to know.
As for the players they who they are and what it may have cost this team and how they let their teammates down.
I still think with the players that will be suspended YSU has a good chance of winning.
Trust me, Bo did not want this coming out, and would have never publicly said anything if it wasn't for the newspaper. Randy Gregory failed 7 tests at Nebraska and Bo never said a word. Same goes for Alexander.
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Disagree 100%, cover-up always worse than the crime, Tressel should know better from what happened at Ohio State. Get out in front of this and move on. Now all kinds of speculation; heroin, cocaine, etc.
If this were a big time media town, YSU would be getting roasted for this kind of behavior, they can't bury this one.
I don't see anyone covering anything up. I'm sure they are waiting for the NCAA to give them their final ruling on it. This isn't cut and dry. We don't know if it's any of the kids first offense. If it's weed for all the players. Heck one could be adderral, then you have to file papers from a doctor saying he is aloud to take it.
Bo will have his weekly press conference at 11:30 and we should all find out more than. I still don't think he will name names. I don't blame him if he doesn't say who the players are.You don't want Eastern Washington to know.
As for the players they who they are and what it may have cost this team and how they let their teammates down.
I still think with the players that will be suspended YSU has a good chance of winning.
Trust me, Bo did not want this coming out, and would have never publicly said anything if it wasn't for the newspaper. Randy Gregory failed 7 tests at Nebraska and Bo never said a word. Same goes for Alexander.
Alexander was suspended, hence why he transferred to YSU ?
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You are right, it isn't a board about weed. It's just hard to ignore messages like " weed is going to ruin their lives." It's 2016 not 1950 so if someone is going to comment about it please be educated.
Still just an opinion and as valid as yours. If not more given what just happened. The rule is simple, I am simply amazed that this happened ...if indeed it did.
How are you amazed? You think this doesn't happen all the time? Players smoke weed all over the country. Hell a few years back half the military was smoking spice. But it's no big deal if they go out and get drunk.
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Disagree 100%, cover-up always worse than the crime, Tressel should know better from what happened at Ohio State. Get out in front of this and move on. Now all kinds of speculation; heroin, cocaine, etc.
If this were a big time media town, YSU would be getting roasted for this kind of behavior, they can't bury this one.
I don't see anyone covering anything up. I'm sure they are waiting for the NCAA to give them their final ruling on it. This isn't cut and dry. We don't know if it's any of the kids first offense. If it's weed for all the players. Heck one could be adderral, then you have to file papers from a doctor saying he is aloud to take it.
Bo will have his weekly press conference at 11:30 and we should all find out more than. I still don't think he will name names. I don't blame him if he doesn't say who the players are.You don't want Eastern Washington to know.
As for the players they who they are and what it may have cost this team and how they let their teammates down.
I still think with the players that will be suspended YSU has a good chance of winning.
Trust me, Bo did not want this coming out, and would have never publicly said anything if it wasn't for the newspaper. Randy Gregory failed 7 tests at Nebraska and Bo never said a word. Same goes for Alexander.
Not true at all. For several reasons other than what I know.... #1 being that Bo isn't the one who administers the drug tests, and #2 Bo wasn't the one at NU in charge of suspensions or disciplining players who tested positive. To my knowledge, Gregory didn't test positive at all as his issues were with substances that weren't tested for at the collegiate level.
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You are right, it isn't a board about weed. It's just hard to ignore messages like " weed is going to ruin their lives." It's 2016 not 1950 so if someone is going to comment about it please be educated.
Still just an opinion and as valid as yours. If not more given what just happened. The rule is simple, I am simply amazed that this happened ...if indeed it did.
How are you amazed? You think this doesn't happen all the time? Players smoke weed all over the country. Hell a few years back half the military was smoking spice. But it's no big deal if they go out and get drunk.
As if that one has not been heard since the 70's. Should we bring back all those that went to Canada to avoid weed prosecution ::) They violated the law and let the team down ...is there anymore to say that is not some attempt to politicize this topic? Furthermore they should be lucky that it happened in a random school-program test, or it would be a legal matter staying with them the rest of their lives.
I am amazed that they would let so many people down and they knew there was mandated testing and STILL did it. It is simply a question of character and brains. Has almost nothing to do with pot.
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Agree. They need to get out in front of this and put it behind them!! The team needs to move on as does Bo. The Athletic Department can't let this fester. The longer it does the more speculation. The more speculation the less trust in the system by the fans and media.
Go Guins!
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Agree. They need to get out in front of this and put it behind them!! The team needs to move on as does Bo. The Athletic Department can't let this fester. The longer it does the more speculation. The more speculation the less trust in the system by the fans and media.
You're spot on. They don't have to release the names, but at least acknowledge that it happened so it can be put to rest and everyone can move on to EW.
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Agree. They need to get out in front of this and put it behind them!! The team needs to move on as does Bo. The Athletic Department can't let this fester. The longer it does the more speculation. The more speculation the less trust in the system by the fans and media.
You're spot on. They don't have to release the names, but at least acknowledge that it happened so it can be put to rest and everyone can move on to EW.
I'm pretty sure everyone has moved on. Except maybe the fans and media. Like Bo said next man up. Can't worry about it. Live and learn and move on. We will all find out on Saturday who they were. Until then let's worry about beating Eastern Washington
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old news! Go YSU!
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This is amateur hour crap. If you want to be treated like an important program (and not one where you have to spend a week begging for people to show up to a playoff game) you have to get out in front of this and deal with it publicly.
People pay tuition, state taxes fund this stuff, graduates donate... let's see some transparency here.
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It's already out on Ruiz.
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It came out... Man. Well for sure Ruiz isn't playing. Surprised that he would do that.
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Any word on press conference? Did they bring it up??
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What about Ruiz?
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http://wkbn.com/2016/12/13/youngstown-state-football-player-faces-firearm-charges/
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They did bring it up during the press conference some of Bo's quotes "we aren't going to talk about it" and "now that we are having success now all the sudden there is a story" " There was one young man who I didn't play in a game halfway through the game and nobody reported it" quotes are from Charles Grove.
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Wow that is bad stuff.
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Abc123abc - why would you post their names??? There are Eastern Washington people on this board!!! Why would you want their fans, players and coaches to know who is out. If you are a true YSU fan and really want us to win delete your post asap!!! That is assuming you even have the right names!
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Sounds like he was probably profiled. Didn't use a turn signal? Yeah okay. Half of Ohio doesn't use turn signals.
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The possession of a firearm is troubling.
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The possession of a firearm is troubling.
its an open carry state. if he didn't have it in his glove box he'd be okay.
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I'm all for being pro Youngstown/YSU here... but, after one drive EWU will know who is out. Also whether they know or not, we have to be prepared. I've said when this streak started, play clean football and don't waste red zone trips. If we can do that, we can beat anyone. I know that's cliche, and probably true for most teams... but it's especially true in December.
As far as the names go, I've heard 3 of those 4 are a certainty.
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You are out driving a car, smoking dope with a gun in the car. What good can come out of that. Shouldn't he have been studying.
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Players do have down time, so shouldn't he have been studying is a bit much. Agreed it's concerning, what he was doing. Especially since we dodged a gun incident before the season even started. He was a good one too. Shame.
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these players had to know they would do random drug testing but they still did drugs. what the ______! They better understand to get a job you have to take a drug test,
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More excitement about bad news than the first 3 play-off wins. Get over it people, most of us have done stupid things at some point in our life. Sounds like it is being handled, lets worry about the game.
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More excitement about bad news than the first 3 play-off wins. Get over it people, most of us have done stupid at some point in our life. Sounds like it is being handled, lets worry about the game.
Preach brother.
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On WFMJ at 6 Dana Balash said the starting lineup released today didn't change from last week. Suspensions may not be until the title game. Unsure how accurate this is, I'm sure this could change as the suspensions officially come from the NCAA.
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the stupid things I have done in my life did not involve drugs and a gun
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On WFMJ at 6 Dana Balash said the starting lineup released today didn't change from last week. Suspensions may not be until the title game. Unsure how accurate this is, I'm sure this could change as the suspensions officially come from the NCAA.
They are OUT. This is similar to Bo leaving Wells as the starter for the Duquesne game when he never saw the field that game while Davis and Hosick did.
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They will not play. They will not make the trip
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Now Craig Haley at Stats FCS has this as their top story. All the athletic department had to do was issue a statement yesterday saying four players had been suspended, and this thing would not have exploded the way it has. They wouldn't have had to name the players. Just release a statement admitting that it happened, instead of appearing as though you are covering it up. Very disappointed in how they have handled this.
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So I've been told that the University cannot name names unless they are indicted or proven guilty in the court of law. Is this true? I don't know but I understand being innocent until proven guilty, however in this case aren't they guilty?
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I get that I'm playing against the advocate but understand legal matters may supercede everything else
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Power,
By law, the university can not reveal any personal information about students. If the names ever officially come out, it will be because the NCAA publicly sanctioned them after due process had been served. Those folks that have been suggesting that the university is covering up this sad episode by not revealing the names are ignorant about the law.
guins4
You are absolutely correct. A simple statement without names was appropriate and necessary. Where has Ron Strollo been? The NCAA would actually communicate with him, not Pelini who really has no role in this sordid drama.
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The possession of a firearm is troubling.
its an open carry state. if he didn't have it in his glove box he'd be okay.
Again, assuming it was his gun and legally licensed. He said it was someone not his.
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I think we can all agree, it's time to move on. There's no use in lingering on about what should have happened. It went down the way that it did, and it cannot be changed. Yes, there are privacy laws that need to be followed.
Can we PLEASE shift the focus where it belongs? Eastern Washington. I think we can all agree, that this team has handled adversity very well. I have no reason to expect anything different on Saturday. Also Happy Birthday to Coach Bo. Let's get him a win.
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They are suspended. It's time to move on. Next man up!
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DITTO!DITTO!DITTO!
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Whomever the ******** that posted the names on here is I am working to get you banned. EW got the names from this site.
Also I would like to meet you in the parking lot so I can kick your sorry a$$ you piece of sh**
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Whoa there big fella...what difference does it make if they are posted or not? Like they can't find it out elsewhere?
It happened...get over it.
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I haven't seen the posting. If somebody wants to message me in complete confidence, that would be great.
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Whoa there big fella...what difference does it make if they are posted or not? Like they can't find it out elsewhere?
It happened...get over it.
Really. Where else have you seen them posted.
It's a shame that they were posted. It didn't help anything but some selfish so called fans.
I agree they should be banned. Also this thread should go away
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Whoa there big fella...what difference does it make if they are posted or not? Like they can't find it out elsewhere?
It happened...get over it.
Really. Where else have you seen them posted.
It's a shame that they were posted. It didn't help anything but some selfish so called fans.
I agree they should be banned. Also this thread should go away
It will just come back Ice. I think it has run it's course and the names were removed, that is why you cannot find them. It is best to just close it and leave it. It is not a bad topic. People come here for info.