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Title: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2023, 02:01:36 PM
Get excited Penguin Fans! It is GAMEDAY  fb!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Penquin68 on August 31, 2023, 04:11:21 PM
I will be there! My main focus will be our running backs. Can't replace Jaleel, but we need performance from.our backs so our offense can be productive. I think the rest of our team has a chance to be very good, but without a strong run game, the team will be in trouble in tough games. It may take Brunguard at times at QB to save the run game.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Guin83 on August 31, 2023, 07:22:16 PM
Is it being live streamed? 
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2023, 08:29:07 PM
On ESPN+ only.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: mudclods on August 31, 2023, 09:13:10 PM
Disappointing first half. Outside of the big run by King, YSU has been outplayed. Some bad penalties, a couple unsportsmanlike with one that will give Valpo 15 yards to start the 2nd half. Terrible ending to the half.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Buddy on August 31, 2023, 09:14:51 PM
Less than impressive first half….  Very disappointing
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2023, 09:39:31 PM
Looking a bit better here so far in the second half. But... Losing Trowers for next week first half of Ohio State game for that targeting penalty is gonna be rough
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Kandrase on August 31, 2023, 10:33:44 PM
Looking a bit better here so far in the second half. But... Losing Trowers for next week first half of Ohio State game for that targeting penalty is gonna be rough

No that’s a blessing in disguise. Less time to get injured.

Only successful result next week is low injuries
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Kandrase on August 31, 2023, 10:35:23 PM
Also 17-10 at half is embarrassing.

It’s looks like coach reminded them at halftime that they are essentially playing a d3 team.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: goodnews on August 31, 2023, 11:20:05 PM
The 2nd Valpo TD is kind of on the DC.  Should've gone 2 deep and not get beat over the top after they got the 1st down. 
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on August 31, 2023, 11:29:32 PM
I hate night games!

Game was too long, way too many reviews. Had to be at least 5.

Outplayed in the first half, not enough pressure rushing 4.

What a great 3rd qtr, must have been a great half time talk.

Defense and special teams set the tone for the second half

Go guins!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: YsuPride on September 01, 2023, 12:35:11 AM
Less than impressive was the lack of crowd.  I know the fair is going on but true fans come out.  8600 fans on a opening night with great weather is unacceptable.   Hopefully the Robert Morris game draws 12 to 14k.  It's at 2pm. 
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: YsuPride on September 01, 2023, 12:37:18 AM
By the way I will be attending the Game in  Columbus next week.   Go guins!!!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: penguinpower on September 01, 2023, 06:41:03 AM
I hate night games!

Game was too long, way too many reviews. Had to be at least 5.

Outplayed in the first half, not enough pressure rushing 4.

What a great 3rd qtr, must have been a great half time talk.

Defense and special teams set the tone for the second half

Go guins!

I had the exact same observation with defensive pressure.  Couldn't get back there unless we sent the house.

I will say the LB play is looking spectacular. 
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on September 01, 2023, 07:32:24 AM
Less than impressive was the lack of crowd.  I know the fair is going on but true fans come out.  8600 fans on a opening night with great weather is unacceptable.   Hopefully the Robert Morris game draws 12 to 14k.  It's at 2pm.

That is a small crowd, we sit on the East side and the West side did look very sparce. On the upside I do not recall seeing as many students as there were last night. Our area was pretty full.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: YSUGO on September 01, 2023, 08:45:24 AM
I only watched the first half.

1. Crowd was what I expected. Why!  Playing a non scholly crap team.  Fair ,  can I say playing a non scholly crap team.  Thursday night game. Is a hard draw as well right before Labor Day. 
2.  So as a fan knowing that we are playing  the non scholly crap team if I’m not motivated.  Do you really think the team is.  That’s where coaching come in and in the first half we were not getting it done.
3  These kind of games we should win by that margin.
4,  But to make any kind of assessment  on who whst where why because of  playing the non scholly crap team is impossible. 
5,  My point is  it was a  waste of time for me as a fan  to watch  this.  I will watch the second half.
6.  A win is a win though,  and I do feel we  are  looking bigger and  have  some takent.  I’m concerned  when we hit  the meat off. The schedule do we have enough speec and guys that can make chunk plays on offense to make up the loss of Jaleel.  On defense  we need to get more push from the D line  if we have to pressure with linebackers etc  our conference will eat us up with crossing routes  etc. 
AGAIN THE  COMPETITION ITS. HARD  TO   MAKE  ANY ASSESSMENT

Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on September 01, 2023, 09:18:56 AM
After the first half, I was afraid the repeat of the Butler games.
I do not understand how we could give up a TD. Even an average high school corner back knows that, with less a minute to go in the half, you do not fall for a double move to let the receiver get behind you. I really think the DB was trying to get an Int by coming towards the ball. Oops, the receiver broke up field …..
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: penguinpower on September 01, 2023, 10:52:09 AM
They played EVERYONE.  We did what we needed to do.  The second half was completely dominant.  The play calling in the first half wasn't helpful and the dropped passes and penalties impacted the game.  But when they turned it on it, it looked good. Concerned about not getting pressure without the LB's.

LB play was the best I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on September 01, 2023, 10:59:51 AM
Not trying to say that they come from a good league but for the record Valpo does seem to off some schollys.

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Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: YSU1 on September 01, 2023, 12:30:36 PM
Dont forget Valpo drove to the one yard line so that could have bewen another score (in the 1st half)
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on September 01, 2023, 01:00:51 PM
Good God. Can we please bury the “where’s the crowd” comments and replies already? That dead horse has been beaten so many times already it’s physically, mentally and emotionally exhausting.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Wick250 on September 01, 2023, 02:42:10 PM
Good God. Can we please bury the “where’s the crowd” comments and replies already? That dead horse has been beaten so many times already it’s physically, mentally and emotionally exhausting.

Well said. ESPN+ is the causal fan's best friend. The crowds are not coming back. Enjoy the games!

Those penalties are unacceptable. Targeting, taunting, ripping a helmet off, all in the same night. Ridiculous and it has to stop.

If the o-line does the job, our stable of running backs will be fine.

I suspect that we saw very little of the offensive playbook last night. No reason to be creative until Northern Iowa.

Brungard threw an excellent medium distance pass that set up the last touchdown. He has potential if we don't expect him to operate inside a pocket.

Kickers looked like they will be fine. Excellent coverage on our numerous kickoffs.



Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: peteonastick on September 01, 2023, 03:19:28 PM
Evaluation:
1.  Great tailgate
2.  Penalties were disappointing
3.  No pressure on QB - need to fix that!
4.  Need to improve run game especially this week  can’t be going three and out against Valpo let alone OSU. Will make for a long game for defense.
5.  Need to improve discipline!! Can’t have unsportsmanlike penalties!!
6.  Go to Columbus. Exit the busses. Keep the busses running. Play hard with no injuries. Get the check. Enter busses. Head home and get ready for Bobby amp and especially UNI.

Go Guins!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 01, 2023, 04:02:48 PM
Typically game ONE is a vanilla offensive scheme.  However., I'm not sure the OC has another scheme.  The coach needs a signature victory.  A 3-1 start would provide that but after last evening a lot needs to improve.   Anything less than a playoff berth and home game with our schedule would be a failure in year 4 for this coach. 
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Penquin68 on September 01, 2023, 07:34:20 PM
I was a bit disappointed in our performance as most have noted. The run game may be acceptable with King at rb. I was hoping that our d line would provide pressure on the qb, but not so.

I think this may be year 4, but the 1st 2 really don't count as 2 years with the covid disaster. We did not get the recruiting or development those years. The playoffs are expected, but not an easy job in our league with our team. I sure hope we make it.

OSU will be interesting. I hope it is not a complete beat down. I think OSU will not take it easy on us and try to run up the score for their ratings. We need to bring our A game and hope for the best. I attended the last 2 times there, but won't be attending this year.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Dmorton on September 02, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
Coach Day has no ties to Youngstown!  Expect a thorough a==whipping!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Petey on September 02, 2023, 03:04:28 PM
Maybe I missed this noticed RB from liberty did not play. In Jersey and sneakers on side lines? THANKS

GOOOO GUINS!!!!!!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Penquin68 on September 02, 2023, 04:52:33 PM
I heard that the Liberty tail back was not 100%, just 85%, so he was held out of the game. He has had trouble staying health. I think King is as good or better.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 02, 2023, 09:24:26 PM
Playoffs or bust!  Everyone else had to deal with covid too.  Keep in mind the coach is going nowhere.  The AD doesn't generate enough money to pay for a replacement.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 03, 2023, 02:05:00 AM
I think the Ohio State game is gonna be closer than people think. I still think Ohio State wins comfortably though. Maybe like a 49-10 final score?
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: peteonastick on September 03, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
What was with the sound system?  We went from bad to good to not hearing a thing!

Go Guins!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on September 03, 2023, 09:45:53 AM
Playoffs or bust!  Everyone else had to deal with covid too.  Keep in mind the coach is going nowhere.  The AD doesn't generate enough money to pay for a replacement.


Does any team goodnews? Everyone knows this was a Tressel hand-pick so now you cannot attack the AD, so you look for another item to attack him with. Despite the fact that we make good money as a program. Don't compare YSU to anyone else, as they are not the same. We now pay our players as much as anyone else (At our level). We still have top facilities. You have nothing to complain about. If you do not like the coach, send a letter to Florida c/o Tressel. If you do not like the recruits, blame the staff and the portal.  There is no more looking at how good your coaches are; it is now how much you pay players and how well coaches perform in the portal. Look at that idiot at Colorado. First he ruins the game with his inability to tackle, now he further ruins the game with his obvious lack of coaching skill and experience leading a PAC-10 team. That is the game of football for the rest of yours and my lives.

We know how to bring the crowds back, but it starts with winning. After that it is educating your fan base. Phillips has begun to do surprisingly-well in that aspect of the game. He is correcting reporters and still comes out as a pleasant coach. I would like to hear more from our assistants each week.

Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on September 03, 2023, 10:12:07 AM
King is your TB. Best back we have had since Ruiz. Nice to see a bit of size.

Davidson showed leadership skills. Brungard is not now, nor ever should be the future of this team.

WR corps looking solid.

Kilpatrick is a very pleasant surprise at Punter.

We are loaded at DB and LB. Should be interesting.



Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 03, 2023, 12:05:52 PM
1AA, I'm simply saying playoffs or bust because of our facilities and favorable conference schedule.  The coach is in his 4th year and should make the playoffs based on the many positives that u outlined in your response.   All u did is confirm there aren't any excuses.  I think Phillips has done an admiral job considering the challenges that exist at YSU.  Its clear YSU needed a cheap, clean coach that wanted to be here and was somehow connected to the program. 
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: admin on September 03, 2023, 12:08:46 PM
1AA, I'm simply saying playoffs or bust because of our facilities and favorable conference schedule.  The coach is in his 4th year and should make the playoffs based on the many positives that u outlined in your response.   All u did is confirm there aren't any excuses.  I think Phillips has done an admiral job considering the challenges that exist at YSU.  Its clear YSU needed a cheap, clean coach that wanted to be here and was somehow connected to the program.

Sorry, I must’ve misunderstood. I completely agree with you. That’s one of the reasons I like to see some of the assistants. We may have somebody there.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on September 04, 2023, 09:33:33 AM

Brungard is not now, nor ever should be the future of this team.


Thinking that has already been decided!
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: ucfpengbuck on September 05, 2023, 03:12:26 PM
Brungard did a nice job in mop up duty.  Ran well and hit his passes.   Not sure why the no-confident from the board.   Won't argue but time will tell.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Wick250 on September 05, 2023, 09:33:08 PM
Brungard did a nice job in mop up duty.  Ran well and hit his passes.   Not sure why the no-confident from the board.   Won't argue but time will tell.

Unlike Crenshaw, Brungard has all the tools to be an effective dual threat quarterback on the FCS level. I'm really glad that we have him. His only weakness is his height. So logically, should he earn the starting job next season, structure the offense so he does not often have to throw out of a pocket.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on September 05, 2023, 09:59:24 PM
Brungard did a nice job in mop up duty.  Ran well and hit his passes.   Not sure why the no-confident from the board.   Won't argue but time will tell.

Unlike Crenshaw, Brungard has all the tools to be an effective dual threat quarterback on the FCS level. I'm really glad that we have him. His only weakness is his height. So logically, should he earn the starting job next season, structure the offense so he does not often have to throw out of a pocket.

Agree
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: Kandrase on September 06, 2023, 11:41:49 AM
Brungard did a nice job in mop up duty.  Ran well and hit his passes.   Not sure why the no-confident from the board.   Won't argue but time will tell.

Unlike Crenshaw, Brungard has all the tools to be an effective dual threat quarterback on the FCS level. I'm really glad that we have him. His only weakness is his height. So logically, should he earn the starting job next season, structure the offense so he does not often have to throw out of a pocket.

Until we actually see him play a real FCS opponent I’m a bit skeptical. Mostly just because we haven’t had much luck with undersized dual threat QBs.
Title: Re: Valpo Game Thread
Post by: go guins on September 10, 2023, 07:10:50 PM
Brungard did a nice job in mop up duty.  Ran well and hit his passes.   Not sure why the no-confident from the board.   Won't argue but time will tell.

Unlike Crenshaw, Brungard has all the tools to be an effective dual threat quarterback on the FCS level. I'm really glad that we have him. His only weakness is his height. So logically, should he earn the starting job next season, structure the offense so he does not often have to throw out of a pocket.
Agreed Beau looked good against osu too. Yes int but overall showed reasonable ability.