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Ok. Now that we got another disappointing basketball season behind us. Time to focus on spring ball and who our starting QB is going to be! Looking forward to spring practice and see who starts to make some moves.
Go Guins!
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Ok. Now that we got another disappointing basketball season behind us. Time to focus on spring ball and who our starting QB is going to be! Looking forward to spring practice and see who starts to make some moves.
Go Guins!
Well, we need a good QB and Ohio State starts spring training with 5 good QBs. Any chance for one of those guys to transfer in via portal after their spring training? lol
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Hey, we appreciate your passion to see if any Ohio State quarterbacks would transfer here. That would be great but with the state of college football NIL Moneytalks which we don’t have at this stage and quite quite honestly not at any stage, so we’re gonna have to trust Phillips and your offensive coordinator to find that quarterback. Is the legacy QB is the one they targeted and they’re gonna give give him every opportunity to win the job. I haven’t been to a physical game since the championship in Frisco. I moved out of Ohio now live in Florida so I haven’t seen any of the quarterbacks live in person so it’s hard to tell if the legacy QB is division, one material.
The only thing that scares me is they really didn’t let him throw much last year and since he’s more of a run option quarterback, durability could be an issue in our league and as you know, we don’t seem to have keeping running quarterbacks upright. My main concern this year is getting the defense prepared.I I’m hoping we have a style that we all can relate to. And maybe we can get lucky and find somebody on offense that’s a gamebreaker like we had And McLaughlin.
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Like GO, I am primarily concerned with the defense. Make the scheme simple and rely on the natural abilities of our defenders. No more embarrassing breakdowns in coverage at critical points of games.
Obviously our quarterback this season will be inexperienced, but that does not mean that the winner of the quarterback derby won't be good. Brungard is a vastly superior athlete to his father. We did not see his arm in action last season, but from what I could see in high school competition he throws as well or better than his dad. And don't sleep on Shannon, the transfer from Ursuline. He could very well earn the job.
Scanning the roster, all of those promising young wide receivers are still here. And since Brungard and Shannon can run, they will have an easier time of getting open as our opponents will need to commit a safety to run support.
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I was scanning the football team roster and I noticed that Tyshon King was still listed as one of the running backs. Did he get another year? I thought he had graduated.
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He may. Does anyone in the know explain this??
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This is certainly not official, but here is how King might have got that extra year.
He played at Northern Michigan in 2019, 2021, and 2022. (Remember no football below the FCS level in the Covid year.) He earned league honors at NMU as a freshman in 2019, but only played in four games in 2021. Was he able to receive a medical redshirt for that? Pure speculation on my part. We should just be very glad that he is back as it will relieve some pressure on the new quarterback.
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Wick I believe you make sense in your analysis of King . What it means is we got a bevy of tailbacks but not a capable QB. Brungard is not the answer and Shannon who transfered into the program will be rusty to say the least. We need a qb bad.
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If he only played in four games specially if they were the first four games of the season, he could play almost every down and get that game back. Sounds like he had some coaches that knew what they were doing.
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If he only played in four games specially if they were the first four games of the season, he could play almost every down and get that game back. Sounds like he had some coaches that knew what they were doing.
It is almost spring practices time. Does anyone know when NCAA will make determinations on the eligibility of players? Logically, shouldn’t that decision be made before starting of spring practices?
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ET,
King is eligible. We are not waiting for the NCAA. We have just been speculating about HOW he earned the additional year.
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From today’s Tribune/Vindy on starting of YSU spring practice
https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2024/03/spring-kickoff-ysu-begins-spring-practice-with-plenty-of-new-familiar-faces/
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Sounds to me like a rebuilding year.
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Last season on the Coaches Show Tyshon King had mentioned he had an additional year of eligibility, so having him return was fully expected. We certainly have a very strong group of backs on the roster. Hoping the QB competition we see brings out the best in those guys!
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Wow! A rebuilding year with that schedule! Yikes!
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Troy Jakubec hitting the portal.
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From today’s Tribune/Vindy on YSU defense
https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2024/04/despite-attrition-ysu-defense-focused-on-retooling-stopping-the-run/
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Sound like we could be in for a tough year on D. Basically starting from scratch. So your depth guys are starters and now your depth is gone due to transfers. Not a good sign
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Same plan as last year which resulted in worst D since Wolford. But this year we have less experienced players. As long as the O scores 45 points per game we should be OK.
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Good Luck with that!
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Good Luck with that!
Gone are our starting QB & #1 receiver…..we don’t even know who will be our QB yet.
I assume Tribune/Vindy will print another featured story on offense next couple of days. At least, king gets this year as our running back.
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UNLV DB Isaiah Hackett, who played at Warren G. Harding and Youngstown East in high school, is transferring home to YSU.
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Can someone list the defenders that went to the portal and what school they're at ? Looks like the defense was decimated with guys going elsewhere.
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Can someone list the defenders that went to the portal and what school they're at ? Looks like the defense was decimated with guys going elsewhere.
The links to the Tribune/Vindy article that I posted on this subject matter on 4/10 listed some defensive players we had lost to either graduation or portal.
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Ok. Now that we got another disappointing basketball season behind us. Time to focus on spring ball and who our starting QB is going to be! Looking forward to spring practice and see who starts to make some moves.
Go Guins!
Ending was disappointing but with 4 new players, a 20 win season after last year's record season was NOT another disappointing basketball season. That being said , I really look forward to football. Absolutely should be playoffs again.
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We talk about rebuilding and defensive concerns. Last year's D was terrible. Most of what we lost couldn't play.
D is better because of the portal. King will help (I thought this was understood all year last season as a covid year?)
Biggest lose is Oliver. I think he can play on Sunday, and won't be an easy replacement. beau should be fine and don't. Ount out Shannon.
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Shannon does not look good. Too much run 1st with him.
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Shannon does not look good. Too much run 1st with him.
The Springfield local kid (#11) looked good. There were some really hard hits on the field. Shannon didn’t seem to have abilities to find any open receivers. He reminded me of Crenshaw, put his head down and ran.
Beau had several passes knocked down at the LOS. He either telegraphed his passes or being too short, or both.
Some good runs by the backs. King only played one series, I believe.
It was difficult to judge the passing game because of the strong wind.
I thought Shannon was the least effective among all 4 QBs.
Other comments?
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Thoughts from spring game. QB is the biggest question. Brungard and Shannon ran a lot!! Not good. Hard to tell with splitting receivers and tight ends but run first was definitely part of the scheme. It was windy also. Brungard had several passes batted down at the line and I think if Shannon works with receivers all summer he could be the starter come week 4. As far as throwing it. Schondelmeyer looked good as well as Blanc but they ran it a lot less. D line will be an issue. Depleted and we looked small up front on D. Fordham will be a nice addition to secondary as he broke up a few passes. Was very surprised they full live on the QBs today. Over all I would say B- to C+ as far as spring prep. Maybe a portal player or two on d line would help.
Go Guins
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I'm sure the seasoned OC (sarcasm) we have will get the QB's ready for the fall. Is Mike Tomczak still involved with the program and if so does he help with QB development?
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Shannon looked rusty. The kid from Springfield out on the other side of the state looked the best. Brungard was 2nd beat with Blanc probably 3rd. Hard to tell because of the wind. Seems like coach on the field after the game introduced new players . Hopefully they are defensive.
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From YSU sport website:
https://ysusports.com/news/2024/4/13/football-white-claims-21-7-victory-in-spring-game.aspx
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Highlights fro 2024 Spring game:
https://youtu.be/iaslsoue6qk?si=lS1HAC0r-NkL-wJ5
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If you read the Vindy article it seems between the lines Phillips wants Shannon to be the guy. Again is he? Accuracy quick decision making is what’s needed in aD1 QB. A good coach builds around a players strength. My guess is the Springfield Kid has that more than the others. Do we need another Crenshaw experience. I feel this is where Phillips fails in not seeing what’s right in front of him. This team right now lacks a true chunk play game breaker. I see a sub 500 record this coming year especially in conference. This year we will need his best coaching job ever. When you had the influx of transfers D leave after he said maybe our scheme was too complicated? Not all were told to leave. They know what’s up and next year is a rebuild. Depth means a lot if you have horses to win it. We don’t have those game changing horses right now. Think about it we have had to go to there’s transfer portal for RBs and our number 1 receiver. What happened about the off field incident with tbe transfer WR and he was with other players. Where’s the media for that?
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If you read the Vindy article it seems between the lines Phillips wants Shannon to be the guy. Again is he? Accuracy quick decision making is what’s needed in aD1 QB. A good coach builds around a players strength. My guess is the Springfield Kid has that more than the others. Do we need another Crenshaw experience. I feel this is where Phillips fails in not seeing what’s right in front of him. This team right now lacks a true chunk play game breaker. I see a sub 500 record this coming year especially in conference. This year we will need his best coaching job ever. When you had the influx of transfers D leave after he said maybe our scheme was too complicated? Not all were told to leave. They know what’s up and next year is a rebuild. Depth means a lot if you have horses to win it. We don’t have those game changing horses right now. Think about it we have had to go to there’s transfer portal for RBs and our number 1 receiver. What happened about the off field incident with tbe transfer WR and he was with other players. Where’s the media for that?
As I have posted in the past, imo, if Phillips started Davidson at ehe beginning of the season instead of Crenshaw, we would have made the playoff that year.
Shannon might be the chosen one (like Crenshaw), however, in the spring game, I did not see him having the ability to find the open receiver (like Crenshaw) and he put head down and tan (like Crenshaw). I hope Phillips will not make the same mistakes (like Not starting Davidson).
As it turned out Davidson was a pretty good QB who got some post season visibility in a demonstration game. He probably will not be NFL draft material, however he might get invited to some rookie camp. We shall see in a couple of weeks.
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From today’s Tribune/Vindyon HC assessments of the spring practices:
https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2024/04/phillips-recaps-ysus-spring-football-growth/
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Philips said we don't have to worry about the QB position. Is he smoking weed or what?..we don't have a QB on roster to win but a few games at best. We cannot depend on running QBs and avoid passing. Disaster if we are. Defense is young and unproven
.. could be a long year.
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Broc Lowry from Canfield has entered the transfer portal
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Philips said we don't have to worry about the QB position. Is he smoking weed or what?..we don't have a QB on roster to win but a few games at best. We cannot depend on running QBs and avoid passing. Disaster if we are. Defense is young and unproven
.. could be a long year.
Lol, I guess it all depends on coach’s perspective. Things are often relative. In comparison to DB, LB, DL, he might not be worry much about QB.
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pretty wild to see the roster this offseason absolutely implode... it has been a slow burn... 11-defensive players (2-deep depth) have entered the portal so far... will us fans get answers from Coach on what's happening??
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If you think YSU has had turnover in the portal... look at Murray State! 42 players in the portal!!!!
https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeelys-tip-sheet-spring-football-transfer-portal-opens-and-so-far-all-quiet-on-the-bison-front
"It was January 2023 when the Football Championship Subdivision was breathlessly asking: "What is going on at North Dakota State?" A dozen players had entered the transfer portal since the end of the regular season and great football minds from Brookings to Grand Forks were gleefully speculating that things were going haywire in Fargo.
Today, a little more than a year later, losing 12 players in the transfer portal seems quaint for most FCS squads.
The spring football window officially opened for the portal Tuesday and activity was busy. Actually, it's been busy since the end of last season for most schools. Of the 11 Missouri Valley Football Conference football programs, just two — NDSU and South Dakota State — have fewer than 10 players that have entered the portal.*
(* - That's as of now. Like, right this second. The portal stays open until May 1, so it's likely both the Bison and Jackrabbits will have more players enter. The key is whether those players are starters, key contributors or fourth-stringers.)
Nobody else has been as lucky.
North Dakota lost two more offensive linemen starters to the portal Tuesday, guard Sam Hagen and center Cade Borud. They join two other Fighting Hawks offensive linemen who entered after last season: tackle Easton Kilty and top backup Braden Bryant. With the graduation of Donny Ventrelli, UND will have to replace five of its top six o-linemen. The Hawks football program just isn't getting any puck luck.
But overall, UND has only 10 players in the portal from last season.
Compare that to Murray State, which has had a whopping 42 players go into the portal since last December. It's likely new Racers head coach Jody Wright saw his roster and invited a couple of dozen players to leave and will replace them with transfers he brings in ... but 42 is a Deion Sanders-like number when it comes to transfers.
Youngstown State has lost 26 players since the end of last season; Indiana State has lost 20; South Dakota has lost 15; Missouri State, Southern Illinois and Illinois State have lost 13 each; and Northern Iowa has lost an even 12.
We tried to tell all the other FCS programs that were gloating when the Bison had a dozen players in the portal that your day is coming, too. It's here. Told you so."
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Murray St had a new good since Dean Hood left to take a position at Kentucky. So lots of turnover was expected
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I saw that YSU received two transfer commits from Notre Dame college (D2). One was a wr that had 0 stats,the other is a DB that had 16 tackles for the season. I hope there is something more than their numbers.
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Alex Howard has transfer from Texas AM to Duke. Three schools in one year.