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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU VS Pitt basketball
« on: December 15, 2013, 02:42:56 PM »
Overall ysu finishes the regular season around .500 and they finish aro und the middle of the HL. No contradiction there. Just facts. You need to get your head into reality and out of slocums butt

Hell of contradiction.  YSU is getting what thy are paying for - that's means Slocum is doing the job he was hired for and not that Division I is too big of a stage for him.  You've said YSU can't do any better than middle of the pack - and that's what they are - not a cause to fire a coach. 

I've seen a helluva a lot worse at YSU with a higher level of commitment relative to their peers.  Jim Cleamons and John Stroia come immediately to mind. 


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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU VS Pitt basketball
« on: December 15, 2013, 02:19:36 PM »
YSU is never going to be better than a middle of the pack team in the HL unless they decide to put more money into the program and hire new coaches. D1 is too big a stage for Slocum.
after 9 seasons with a program you would expect a coach to have more success than just being a .500 team year in and year out. At least have a legitimate shot at beating teams like Pitt, UMass and Kent St.

Seems to me that being .500 is being a middle of the pack team.

Pure Man of Genius with those posts - contradicting yourself within ten minutes of making a post.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Sad news - Dan Peters battling pancreatic cancer
« on: December 14, 2013, 06:40:56 PM »
Sorry to hear this about the former YSU men's basketball coach.  Best of luck Coach.

Ed Puskas ‏@EdPuskas85  · 4m 
Dan Peters, former YSU men's basketball coach, is taking leave from his job as Akron's director of operations to battle pancreatic cancer.


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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU to play Pitt in 2015 and 2017
« on: December 14, 2013, 03:30:57 PM »
Wouldn't think Marshall could pay as much as the others?

WVU is what came to mind for me.  Cuse would make some sense.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / YSU to play Pitt in 2015 and 2017
« on: December 14, 2013, 01:34:49 PM »
Dana Balash reporting via Twitter that YSU will play Pitt in 2015 and 2017.

so

2014 - Illinois
2015 - Pitt
2016 - ?
2017 - Pitt

correct?

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Spiderlegs,

Excellent post and spot on.

My son is a college freshman.  He was a "minor' sport player in high school, not playing in college.  His ability to play a sport did not figure in to his college decision, although we did discuss at various times.  His talent would have said "maybe play at low level Division III program."

That being said, I can quickly think of four guys who he played with at various times growing up who are going to small schools, scholarship and non-scholarship, and their ability to continue their playing careers is what has them there, rather than at Indiana or Purdue like another group of peers.  None of these guys are on full scholarship.  I also have a good friend from Georgia with a daughter on a partial crew scholarship at a SEC school that she would never have otherwise attended.

I have seen a couple of stories here over time about how important football is to Butler in attracting male students.  It may be non-scholarship, but it clearly pulls people in.

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The student/taxpayer subsidy for the Minutemen's move to FBS has been $1 million higher than anticipated over the first two years of FBS football and next year will be $5.1 million per year.

There clearly is some logic is a flagship state university moving up and becoming just the third FBS school in New England.  But playing in the MAC and having home games many miles from campus doesn't seem to be working.  Another example of the folly of "big time football" for schools that should be FCS

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/12/13/umass-football-subsidy-exceeds-projections/LdMZCquclCgNI7YFMYWeNP/story.html



Students and taxpayers have spent $1 million more than projected to help fund the first two seasons of the UMass Amherst football team’s ambitious — and so far disappointing — upgrade to elite collegiate competition, according to a report presented Thursday to the university’s Faculty Senate.

The subsidy, known as institutional support, is expected to exceed projections by an additional $600,000 next season, reaching $5.1 million of the $7.8 million football budget. The overrun is considered a reflection of the Minutemen’s struggle to generate enthusiasm for the upgrade, which included moving most of the team’s home games to Gillette Stadium.

The report triggered a new round of complaints that UMass leaders invested scarce public dollars that could have been better spent when they elevated the football team in 2012 to the NCAA’s top Football Bowl Subdivision.

“What becomes clearer each year is that this is a huge financial disaster for the university,’’ said Max Page, a co-chairman of the school’s Ad Hoc Committee on FBS Football, which prepared the report.


The committee is composed of faculty, students, and staff, including leaders of the athletic department.

“The promises that were made are not panning out,’’ said Page, an art and history professor.

Athletic department spokesman John Sinnett said it’s too soon to pass judgment on a lengthy commitment. The Minutemen are two years into a five-year agreement with Gillette Stadium, and UMass administrators continue to believe the program will thrive over time.

In launching the upgrade, school officials projected the football team would generate an annual budget surplus greater than $1 million by 2018.

“This is a long-term project,’’ Sinnett said. “We made certain estimates that will change over time, especially where there is a great deal of transition involved. You need time to build the infrastructure’’

University officials said the report should not be viewed as a definitive portrait of the program’s financial status. They said the football budget would have increased even if the Minutemen had remained in the lower Football Championship Subdivision. They also said that much of the institutional support would not be used for educational purposes if football were eliminated because student athletic fees would be dedicated to other athletic programs and tuition waivers for football players would not be available to other students.

No one disputes, however, that the team’s performance has fallen short of expectations. The Minutemen have posted 1-11 records in each of the first two seasons in the tougher Mid-American Conference. The on-field performance was particularly disappointing this year, as the Minutemen squandered chances to beat winless Western Michigan (a 31-30 loss) and struggling Akron (a 14-13 defeat) at Gillette.

UMass improved defensively, surrendering an average of 33 points per game, down from 40.2 in 2012. But they scored only 11.7 points per game, a drop from 12.7 the previous year.

“Obviously, the record hasn’t been what we would have liked,’’ Sinnett said. “But this is something that we and the players are committed to, and at the end of the day it can help promote the university.’’

Ticket sales at Gillette improved from an average of 10,901 in 2012 to 15,830 in 2013, the highest ever for a UMass football team. Still, attendance remained significantly lower than school officials had projected.

“My personal view is that the program is off to a weak start,’’ said Nelson Lacey, who co-chaired the committee that produced the report. “This isn’t terribly surprising given that it will take some time for young recruits to get winning experience. But it is disappointing.’’

Lacey, a professor of finance, said he would prefer to evaluate the upgrade after three to five years. He said he is not opposed to the university increasing its football budget in the early years of the upgrade.

“Spending more to build the program is a good idea if the extra spending creates benefits such as guarantees, ticket sales, and additional giving,’’ Lacey said.

The guarantees include Penn State paying UMass $850,000 to play there next season. The Minutemen are scheduled to open the 2014 season at Gillette against Boston College, which school officials hope builds interest in the program.

UMass also will resume playing in Amherst for the first time since 2011. The Minutemen are scheduled to play three games in refurbished McGuirk Stadium, which will please many fans who felt abandoned by the move to Gillette.

As part of the upgrade, UMass built a new football training facility and made improvements to the McGuirk press box, which will require the school next year to begin paying an annual $2.2 million debt service on the projects.

Faculty members who oppose the upgrade described it in a written assessment as “a costly ‘Hail Mary’ pass that looks as if it is bound to fall incomplete.’’

Supporters, meanwhile, said the initiative has begun to pay dividends. Last summer, two UMass alumni who are football supporters, Ed Ward and Martin Jacobson, each committed $2.5 million to the athletic department.

Sinnett said the hope is that the football team replicates the recent success of the UMass men’s basketball squad, which this season has been ranked in the Top 25 nationally, five years after coach Derek Kellogg began a rebuilding effort.

Bob Hoh

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Future football game with Robert Morris
« on: December 12, 2013, 08:13:43 PM »
If this is a home game ...then I have no issue at all. Why so upset Power? Is the game in Pittsburgh? I cannot read the article as my free trial is over.

home game per Balash's tweet.

I pasted the entire article in my first post (oops)

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Future football game with Robert Morris
« on: December 12, 2013, 01:48:05 PM »
Dana Balash tweets this game is September 12, 2015.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Future football game with Robert Morris
« on: December 12, 2013, 11:09:15 AM »
The Robert Morris Rivals site indicates they have a future (not 2014) football game with YSU.

Surprised to see they have a home game in 2014 with Eastern Kentucky in their 3,000 seat stadium.


http://robertmorris.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1219&CID=1586355

As John Banaszak moves into the head coaching job at Robert Morris in the wake of Joe Walton's retirement, ColonialsCorner caught up with him to talk about the dawn of a new era. This is the final part of a three-part series. You can read part one here and see what Banaszak's mindset is as he moves into the job. Part two focused on Banaszak's changes to the program , including a new offense.

Even after March 19, 2013 came and went, John Banaszak couldn't get the sights he saw that night out of his mind.

Not only did the Robert Morris football coach have a front row seat for the basketball team's upset of Kentucky, but he came away thrilled at the sight of the sea of red in the stands, a packed house full of vocal, crazed Robert Morris students.

That sea of red never really reached the shores of Joe Walton Stadium the next fall, and Banaszak is out to do something about it.

"We've got to have a sea of red in these stands. To be honest, I was very disappointed with our fan support this past season," Banaszak said. "That's not going to happen again. These students on this campus are looking for things to do. Come and see us play. Come and enjoy that college football atmosphere. We're not going to be on ESPN Game Day, but we can make that special."

Among his other tasks now that's he head coach, Banaszak's added the challenge of engaging the students and getting them to fill the stands for every home game. Part of the challenge is fighting the remnants of Robert Morris' commuter school base, which has long been a challenge for the school's athletic department. But Banaszak also knows that part of it is his football team holding up its end of the bargain.

"We win the conference championship and go to the NCAA playoffs in 2010, we graduate 26 kids, and we go to 2-9. That stinks," Banaszak said. "Never going to be 2-9 again. We improved to 4-7, that stinks. That's not good enough. But we're still able to have great recruiting classes those two years. 5-6 with an opportunity to win the conference is an improvement, but it's still not where we need to be."

Banaszak's hopeful that a model built on recruiting quality players, letting them grow for a couple years, and then step into major roles as juniors and seniors will turn Robert Morris into a perennial contender. Smart scheduling will also play a factor, and he's going to continue to push for night games - which have traditionally sold out - when they're feasible.

"I think it has to be sprinkled in, only because of our conference. It's not really fair to have a Central Connecticut come in and play at night and they have to travel back," Banaszak said. "We've tried to implement a conference rule that when you go east to west or west to east, that you start those games at noon so you give them some travel time. But if St. Francis and Duquesne come here, we'll play them at night. We like those night games."

Banaszak also likes tough competition. Robert Morris will host Eastern Kentucky, which is exploring a move to the FBS level, on Thursday, August 28 to open the 2014 season. Robert Morris also has road games against Lafayette and North Dakota next year, plus future games against Youngstown State and South Dakota State.

Beyond that, Banaszak is also hoping to put together the program's first game against an FBS school. Wagner's played Syracuse and Florida Atlantic, while Duquesne will play Buffalo next year. Banaszak wants a piece of that pie.

"I would play a MAC school in a heartbeat," Banaszak said. He paused and laughed, "Maybe not Northern Illinois, though. They're pretty freakin' good."

"For us to take a trip to Kent State, for us to take a trip to Eastern Michigan, that's no different than going to Connecticut. Get into the BCS schools? Absolutely. I'd be crazy to pass that up," Banaszak continued. "Our recruiting philosophy includes that. That's quite a challenge for us. We're in the search of kids that have been offered by MAC schools. Those are the kids I want to compete against, those MAC schools. If I can steal 8-to-10 of those kids a year, that believe they should be playing at the BCS level, then I think I can compete when we do get that opportunity."

The number of FCS wins over FBS programs has increased in recent years, and that provides additional motivation for schools like Robert Morris, who now qualify as bowl counters.

"Youngstown State beat Pitt two years ago. I'll go to Pitt tomorrow and play them for $500,000," Banaszak said. "I'd be crazy not to. What that could do for us as a program?"

FBS opponents or not, the tougher schedule and push for increased support are part of Banaszak's plan to make Robert Morris a perennial contender in the Northeast Conference and potentially a significant pest throughout the FCS. Time will tell if it's possible, but Banaszak believes it is.

"There wouldn't be anything greater than winning a national championship for little old Robert Morris University. Who would ever believe that? Who would ever think that would be possible?" Banaszak said. "But I can tell you that I think it's a worthy goal. I think we can do that. If I didn't believe that, I shouldn't be sitting here."

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Craig Bohl to Wyoming
« on: December 09, 2013, 04:44:27 PM »
From National Football Post

New Wyoming coach Craig Bohl will be paid a base salary of $750,000 a year at the start with the opportunity to earn up to $1.2 million with incentives. His contract is for five years.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Craig Bohl to Wyoming
« on: December 08, 2013, 03:20:44 PM »
Fargo media now reporting Bohl will coach through the playoffs

Dom Izzo ‏@DomIzzoWDAY 19m
#NDSU AD Gene Taylor says Craig Bohl will coach team rest of season

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Craig Bohl to Wyoming
« on: December 07, 2013, 10:54:01 PM »
seeing various reports tonight that Wyoming will name NDSU coach Craig Bohl as head coach on Sunday.

I assume Bohl will finish out the playoffs with NDSU.

Thought he might have been able to do better than Wyoming. 

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU basketball at UMKC
« on: December 07, 2013, 04:53:25 PM »
Losing to this team is bad, no question about it. 

Why is that when YSU wins, we never hear a word about Slocum being the reason? When YSU loses, it is always Slocum's fault - never the players - except when KP scores 32 and its his fault according to one of our resident experts.

You might get someone better if you get rid of him.  Then again, for what YSU pays you may not.

Based on numbers from a few years ago, Slocum's salary is around $140k.  Oakland, having just moved from the lower rated Summit, is paying Kampe $226k - he got a $50k raise when they joined the Horizon as a market adjustment.  Think about that - he was making 25% more than Slocum and needed a 30% raise to get him in line with his new conference.

Cleveland State pays Waters $340k.  Dambrot makes $400k at Akron, Duquesne offered Dambrot $700k.   The average men's basketball coaching salary in the MAC is $264k. 

YSU pays for hamburger helper, yet some of you expect Filet Mignon. 



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