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Well penguin fans it is officially Ohio State game week. I'll be down at the game with a pack of penguin fans. Tailgating in the sisson lot if anyone wants to meet up Saturday.
Now to the game, with Ohio State's offense not clicking, there is a chance this game isn't a complete blowout. But we will have to see.
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Keep it close in the 1st quarter. Don’t let the game get out of control early. Get a turnover. Don’t turn it over. No injuries. We might have a game.
Go Guins!
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OSU QB improved dramatically in the second half. Will be the worst beating we have ever had. Even the #2's and 3's will have no issues with us. It will not be Day's fault. I mean you only have so many back-ups. That being said. This is not top Buckeye team. We will not score a TD. Too bad. I have a good crowd coming down for this one & I understand we sold the first allotment of tickets, but a lot of returns by Buckeye fans. This is getting back to the old days. None of the Buckeye fans cares for games outside of the big-10 and Notre Dame.
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At least the money is kept in state this time around with this game!
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At least the money is kept in state this time around with this game!
That is one good thing.
Score does not matter, learn from the game, do not get hurt, get ready for the next game.
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I say 42 to 17 final. We will be competitive.
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Just an FYI for everyone, WeAreYoungstown is hosting a YSU football twitter spaces tonight from 8 pm - 9 pm covering topics including the win over Valpo and what we can expect this week against Ohio State.
https://twitter.com/WeAreYoungstown/status/1698852457034518641?s=20
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Besides the money, I can see only one possible benefit from this game. After what we will endure from OSU on Saturday, the passing attacks from Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, or anybody else in the MVFC should not be intimidating.
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I say 42 to 17 final. We will be competitive.
17 seems pretty high, I’d be ecstatic if we score over 10
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We will be lucky to score on Ohio State's defense. Their players are trying to get a shutout every game this year. They were pissed about giving up 3 on Indiana.
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We will not score any TD's and I am certainly not expecting any. One of the things I love about Davidson is that he shows absolutely no fear and has a strong and quick sense of play development. I am hoping that may get us in FG range once or twice Saturday. I am paying more attention to how many stops we get. That is what dictates our conference performance.
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I am pretty sure if we score will be because of our defense and not the offence.
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Get on the bus Get off the bus collect the bag of money. Thank God and Tressel for the chance to get the bag of money. Gameplan to keep them from getting more the 50. Protect your starters especially at QB. No reason to have Davidson to play hero. Shake hands get on the bus as soon as you get back to Ytown. Hand bag of money to Strollo. Easy Peezy..
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My dream…Goliath the Philistine started to attack David. He slowly walked closer and closer toward David, but David ran out to meet Goliath. David took out a stone from his bag. He put it in his sling and swung the sling. The stone flew from the sling and hit Goliath right between the eyes. The stone sank deep into his head, and Goliath fell to the ground—face down. So David defeated the Philistine with only a sling and one stone! He hit the Philistine and killed him.
Reality 45-7 OSU..
Go Guins!!
PS…we can dream still right???
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I am still thinking we can make it a game. 42-17 final. We get two turnovers though which will lead to our scores. maybe a special team score. We don't know until we play the game. Weakest Ohio State team we have a chance to keep it close but for how long? 0 turnovers, minimal penalties, LUCK on our side as well.
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I think we will turn the ball over. Davidson is a gun slinger and likes to throw into coverage. If he does this against OSU he will get picked.
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Like my old tailgate crew would say, You guys are dreaming!!! The Buckeyes are out for blood after last week. We. Are not good enough to pull an Appt St.
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Heading down this afternoon to Columbus. Got tickets waiting. Staying at a friends house/apartment less than 10 minutes from campus. We shall see if we are competitive.
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Leaving tonight, staying at the Red Roof Inn 1.5 miles from campus. Does anyone know if there is anything going on tonight with YSU fans getting together?
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Tressel was on the news last night. They were trying to get him to admit what team he is rooting for. He revealed that he will be at the game with family. They asked him what he was wearing and he said it will be something special for this game and it will be in the form of a sweater-vest. He noted that he will be nervous if both schools do not play at 100%, as it leads to injuries. He does expect the Guins to all get a chance to play.
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Also, thank the canceled game with Washington!
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Almost game time
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Less than an hour before kick off and 0 chatter on the board.
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Let us play a turnover free game and keep the OSU score low. It will be tough if we can’t run the ball. Wish McLaughlin and McAllister are still here.
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I'm a trader(maybe). Been fanatically a YSU fan since since 1973 but also an OSU too. Want YSU to play and compete and possibly test the Buckeyes and go onto win all their games except today.
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OSU marching band formed the Block Y and played the YSU fight song before game.
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It is going to ugly. Let the receiver get behind you again.
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Crap. Looked like the Valpo td.
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Offense looks really good!!
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Good sequence for offense- mixture of run and pass.
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7 to 7 tie. We are keeping the ball away from buckeyes. Good sign
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So much to all the negative naysayers who said we wouldn't score a touchdown! Go Guins!!
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Let's goooooooo
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We look good so far. 14 to 7 buckeyes. Less than 10 min in 1st half. I'll take it.
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Why does Rushton get the ball. King looks better.
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Horrible call, that was not a personal foul...they tried to avoid him
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Young punter for Penguins looks to be booming them.
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Play calling not so great
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To their credit osu did not run it up like they could have.
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Guins looked good. PSU put up 63 on Delaware. We have a solid team with a solid foundation! I look forward to this season! One bad call on the 3rd and 1…should have run it twice. Other than that great performance.
Go Guins!
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But Stick, Delaware plays in the mighty CAA. Watch them go up in the polls while YSU disappears!
Losing stinks but there is so much to be proud of today. Only the bookies won't be pleased.
I wonder how many OSU football players, starters and reserves that entered the game today, will one day play in the NFL. My guess is that we faced two, three, or four times the number of future NFL players today than we will encounter in our entire eight game MVFC schedule.
Did we come out of this game healthy?
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Actually OSU really didn’t take the foot off the gas. They were still throwing deep in the 4th quarter. YSU played hard all game. We will be better for it as the season goes on.
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It is hard to believe that OSU only scored 7 points in the 2nd half.
Good efforts by YSU.
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Guess I see this game completely different. It was fairly obvious if Ohio St could have scored more if they wanted
We had no answer for Harrison.
Henderson could have had a bigger hand to if he was allowed.
That being said we played hard. My concern is we don’t have a player that can hit the home run on offense.
We have s good punter. Still think our offensive coordinator is below average.
I think we got out without any major injuries.
And yes we scored a td. So that gives Philips a heads up on Heacock in money games!
I feel if we dont lose to who we not supposed to. Playoffs can be realistic
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Oline I thought held up. The d-line stood no chance. I hope they're up to the task(d-line) against MVC.
Like our linebackers and it's not fair to make too much of a judgement of the secondary since OSU has receivers better than a lot of NFL teams.
King looks like he needs 20 carries a game going forward.
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So I'm very confused. I must have watched a different game. I thought the Defensive line did fine. I also think our offense is fine! If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot with play calling or taking our QB (Davidson) out to sub in another QB when we are driving and have an int thrown...
I didn't like the penalties we need to clean that up, but besides that I'm pretty happy with how the players played. Obviously would love to win and score more... but I'll take what we had.
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Guess I see this game completely different. It was fairly obvious if Ohio St could have scored more if they wanted
We had no answer for Harrison.
Henderson could have had a bigger hand to if he was allowed.
That being said we played hard. My concern is we don’t have a player that can hit the home run on offense.
We have s good punter. Still think our offensive coordinator is below average.
I think we got out without any major injuries.
And yes we scored a td. So that gives Philips a heads up on Heacock in money games!
I feel if we dont lose to who we not supposed to. Playoffs can be realistic
Uhh, you had to mention Heacock. Those money games in '05 against Pitt and '07 and '08 against the Buckeyes, it looked like we were not even trying.
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I think that our pass rush, even with blitzing, did not work and their qb just stood back and looked for an open receiver. Our qb sure didn't have that option. Our secondary looked out of position and at times the coverage scheme with our zone coverage fell apart. Man coverage is difficult with the caliber of receivers they have and the time the qb had. They could have thrown long all day if we stayed in that coverage. In the 2nd half with number 11 back, we were able to play more man coverage which I think worked better than our poor zone coverage. Not sure if we have any other dbs to improve on coverage. Did they take it easy on us in the 2nd half? Probably some trying to get their 2nd string qb playing time. Who knows. I wonder what Mitch Davidson could do as their qb today. With all that time I think he would be very good also.
On offense we did ok and for sure Tyshon needs to be our primary running back. He is head and shoulders better than the others. And as I understand it, has another year of eligibility.
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I think that our pass rush, even with blitzing, did not work and their qb just stood back and looked for an open receiver. Our qb sure didn't have that option. Our secondary looked out of position and at times the coverage scheme with our zone coverage fell apart. Man coverage is difficult with the caliber of receivers they have and the time the qb had. They could have thrown long all day if we stayed in that coverage. In the 2nd half with number 11 back, we were able to play more man coverage which I think worked better than our poor zone coverage. Not sure if we have any other dbs to improve on coverage. Did they take it easy on us in the 2nd half? Probably some trying to get their 2nd string qb playing time. Who knows. I wonder what Mitch Davidson could do as their qb today. With all that time I think he would be very good also.
On offense we did ok and for sure Tyshon needs to be our primary running back. He is head and shoulders better than the others. And as I understand it, has another year of eligibility.
Day wanted to score more points. It would have eased the fan base. But there's a continuity issue playing 2 QB's if not handled correctly and it appears to be part of it.
Here's the impressive part. The Penguins held Ohio State to 7 points in the second half. AND the possessed the Ball for all but about 4 minutes of Q3. While we were running the clock down to shorten the game, Ohio State couldn't get the penguins off the field. Our running game looked outstanding against their star studded defense. King did a hell of a job (as well as our other backs). But king made some big plays on 3rd down to convert. Were we ever a threat to score? Maybe if Brungard would have gotten a little more on his pass, we could have a 14 points.
However, the turning point of the game occured in Q2 with 8 mins remaining. The roughing the passer call on the sideline was bad. Not only that, but the penguins held them on Third down after Ohio State was called for holding. We should have gotten the ball back there. Now, I don't think there was a reasonable chance we would have won that game, but they would have kicked a FG and we were moving the ball well at that point in the game. Could have scored 21 on them but they could have probably scored more without all the QB substitution.
Overall, I feel good about how they showed out. The score wasn't indicative of the fits we gave them. We should be very good at our level.
Watching the Montana State vs SDSU game. Montana State looks legitimate.
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One other thought.....the penalties we committed like delay of game, off sides etc. Absolutely killed us. They killed our drives and they killed our defensive stops. We HAVE to clean that up immediately. No excuses for those stupid penalties.
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Some thoughts….
Interesting game and can’t be too mad about how it finished. Yes 35-7 is never good but considering the legitimacy of OSU, this was good. We played hard and competed. I also think we were down our starting CB for the first half, correct? I think if Davidson stays in on the one drive where Beau throws a pick we at least have a chance at 10. I disagree with on of the previous comments about not having a HR threat. I disagree. I think King is explosive enough & we have 3 WRs I think can break a game open staring with Oliver. King should get 15-20 touches. It’s nice to see a balanced offense with Mitch at the helm. Beau looks gritty but I worry his size will not hood up in MVFC if he is to be the starter next year.
Did anyone else heart drop into their stomach when they saw Oliver’s knee bend like that? sigh of relief when he got up on his own and hobbled it off. If this team doesn’t shoot itself in the foot i think 9-2 or 8-3 are very realistic expectations.
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We were outgained 464 to 234. 12 first downs to 23. We ran the clock to at least 10 seconds to keep them off the field. The new rules now the NCAA runs the clock to thd findl 2 mins of the half instead of stopping the clock at every first down. So yes the score could have bern worse but again it wax obvious The Buckeyes were working on different situations with their offense. As for thd rb King. He’s no Webb Mason or Jaleel. But he again I saw a lot of good things I think Tomzak a x the other WR The will help us because other teams will try to double Oliver.
After we got down by 21 we went really conservative and werent really trying to score. What were your guys thoughts on Brungard.
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At least the money is kept in state this time around with this game!
That is one good thing.
Score does not matter, learn from the game, do not get hurt, get ready for the next game.
Check, check, check get ready for Bobby!
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One thing I observed in Q3 and spilling into Q4. Here's YSU's stats against their defense:
1. 11 plays 40 yards 7:36 interception
2. 3 plays 7 yards 2:21 Punt
3. 6 plays 28 yards 4:08 Punt
In Q4 Ohio State took the ball on a 13 play 81 yard drive and YSU forced them to turn it over on downs.
YSU responded with a 10 play 89 yard drive that ended in downs.
While they did have the QB rotation going on, we played them even in Q4. That's saying a lot because they really didn't take their starters out.
You don't ever expect an FCS team to be competitive late in the game, but we were competitive and didn't look fatigued. Part of that was how the coaching staff used the new clock rule to their advantage, shortening the game. But on the flip side of that, we were nearly 60 plays into the game and still holding up. We played a lot of players and there wasn't a big drop off. So we saw kids in good shape for the season and some depth we haven't had in a long time. This is super exciting, because we have a lot of promise/potential this year. I can see it.
If you went back and watched the Appalachian State upset if Michigan, you would see how exhausted the players were on App State.....they were making shoestring low probability plays and willing their way to a win toward the end of the game.
YSU didn't look tired against Ohio State. YSU didn't look like they were in the same kind of struggle App State was in late in the game. In fact we look like we belonged there to a large degree. Whoever is training and physically developing these kids is doing a great job. That coach needs to be highlighted at some point. The Penguins didn't look fatigued and they were converting 3rd-N- medium and 3rd-N- short on the ground, up the middle and off tackle in Q4.
Ohio State wanted to get us off the field to cover the spread and they couldn't. Ryan Day is taking heat over this game by the fan base. They were expecting a Major blowout. Think about this for a moment: OHIO STATE's defense couldn't get YSU off the field in Q3 and especially Q4..
YSU's secondary won't see that caliber of receivers the remainder of the season. That being said, we need to fix the blown coverage issues in the secondary.
I am happy with how well we moved Ohio State's DL. The OL gets the game ball to me.
By the way, isn't this how the old Tressel teams won games? Remember the OL in comparison to our level of competition at the time? The road graders would help us get those "championship drives" late in games where we had to possess the ball. We may have that kind of OL this year. With our skill at receiver and our RB room. We will be dangerous this year.
But we have to stop the penalties. It cost us drives against Ohio State
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My main criticism for the last couple years had been on us starting the wrong QB. I am still in the opinion that, if we started Davis last year, we could very well have made it to the playoff.
The future of the college game might need to start putting more emphasis on the transfer portal. Sanders got large number of new players this year via transfer portal in Colorado and he instantaneous turns the program around by beating TCU and Nebraska in the first two game.
With the exposure of the OSU game, we might able to get a few 1A transfers next year. I hope the bench warmers at OSU were paying attention to this game.
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I believe that Tyshon King should be the #1 back. He is better than Dra by a long shot
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Guess I see this game completely different. It was fairly obvious if Ohio St could have scored more if they wanted
We had no answer for Harrison.
Henderson could have had a bigger hand to if he was allowed.
That being said we played hard. My concern is we don’t have a player that can hit the home run on offense.
We have s good punter. Still think our offensive coordinator is below average.
I think we got out without any major injuries.
And yes we scored a td. So that gives Philips a heads up on Heacock in money games!
I feel if we dont lose to who we not supposed to. Playoffs can be realistic
Uhh, you had to mention Heacock. Those money games in '05 against Pitt and '07 and '08 against the Buckeyes, it looked like we were not even trying.
Any point to that comment? Are you saying that simply trying harder would have given YSU a victory over OSU in any year? Guess you are just attacking a former HC that you do not like and talking about a completely different era of college ball. Just remember that Tressel coming from YSU and Heacock giving the Buckeyes a dummy team was what gave us the games in the first place. When you are looking for a payout, you give them what they want. Now they look at all games at the FBS level. Back when we first played OSU, the NCAA did not even care ... it was a payday and nothing more. Should still be the same now. No one could believe we got a 3-game 1.5 mil deal with OSU. That was unheard of, and JT gave it to us with certain concessions ... vanilla play be one of those. Different world today. We all know OSU could have put up 100 against us. My gosh their QB dropped the ball into the end-zone at well over 50-yards per strike, twice ... with ease. Then again, for YSU to drive down the field for a score and then force a punt was so much more than I could have hoped for.
That being said, we were composed and competitive in or execution, just thoroughly out matched. Unfortunately, Oliver was more outmatched than I expected him to be. Agree on King, he is our back ... by far. That was evident last week as well. I sure worry about next year. No TB and no QB. But with the portal, let's just try to maximize this year. When we were in the early stages of the game, line play by YSU was outstanding. I am impressed! Davidson again shows no fear and slings that ball like a veteran.
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I believe that Tyshon King should be the #1 back. He is better than Dra by a long shot
Could not agree more.
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This is an OSU-YSU thread. Plenty of other places to put threads on other things. There is even a board for it.
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Guess I see this game completely different. It was fairly obvious if Ohio St could have scored more if they wanted
We had no answer for Harrison.
Henderson could have had a bigger hand to if he was allowed.
That being said we played hard. My concern is we don’t have a player that can hit the home run on offense.
We have s good punter. Still think our offensive coordinator is below average.
I think we got out without any major injuries.
And yes we scored a td. So that gives Philips a heads up on Heacock in money games!
I feel if we dont lose to who we not supposed to. Playoffs can be realistic
Uhh, you had to mention Heacock. Those money games in '05 against Pitt and '07 and '08 against the Buckeyes, it looked like we were not even trying.
Any point to that comment? Are you saying that simply trying harder would have given YSU a victory over OSU in any year? Guess you are just attacking a former HC that you do not like and talking about a completely different era of college ball. Just remember that Tressel coming from YSU and Heacock giving the Buckeyes a dummy team was what gave us the games in the first place. When you are looking for a payout, you give them what they want. Now they look at all games at the FBS level. Back when we first played OSU, the NCAA did not even care ... it was a payday and nothing more. Should still be them same now. No one could believe we got a 3-game 1.5 mil deal. That was unheard of, and JT gave it to us with certain concessions. Different world today. We all know OSU could have put up 100 against us. My gosh their QB dropped the ball into the end-zone at well over 50-yards per strike, twice. The again, for YSU to drive down the field and then force a punt was so much more than I could have hoped for.
That being said, we were composed and competitive in or execution, just thoroughly out matched. Unfortunately, Oliver was more outmatched than I expected him to be. Agree on King, he is our back ... by far. That was evident last week as well. I sure worry about next year. No TB and no QB. But with the portal, let's just try to maximize this year. When we were in the early stages of the game, line play by YSU was outstanding. I am impressed! Davidson again shows no fear and slings that ball like a veteran.
Tyshon King has another year of eligibility after this year... I am thinking he comes back to play next year, but time will tell.
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This is an OSU-YSU thread. Plenty of other places to put threads on other things. There is even a board for it.
The other boards are irrelevant and get no traffic i.e. eyeballs
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Tyshon King has another year of eligibility after this year... I am thinking he comes back to play next year, but time will tell.
Great to Know. I thought he was one-and-done
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Here are some bits of info from various sources on the internet.
OSU played their starting offensive line for the entire game.
OSU played two fewer players against us than they did against Indiana.
Check out these scores from recent OSU games against other Ohio schools:
2022 77-7 v. Toledo
2021 59-7 v. Akron
2019 42-0 v. Cincinnati
2019 76-5 v. Miami
2018 77-10 v. Bowling Green
2014 66-0 v. Kent State
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Alot of what is being posted is bitter/sweet.
While we may feel really good about how we played and how "close" the final score was compared to other recent Ohio schools contests, the flip side is that all those things that make us feel good are great reasons for osu to not want to play us, a lowly FCS school, again.
Hard enough to get a game with them anyway but the money was nice.
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Sorry but we know nothing about the Penguins after 2 games. The team played down to a non-scholarship Valpo for 2 quarters then played a great 3rd quarter. The moral victory of only losing to OSU by just 4 touchdowns tells us nothing. OSU appears to have some question marks after 2 weeks as well. If we're 3-1 then we know we've turned the corner.
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Ohio State played YSU because the game against Washington had to be canceled!
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OSU and San Jose State mutually agreed to cancel their 2023 game NOT Washington.
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Sorry but we know nothing about the Penguins after 2 games. The team played down to a non-scholarship Valpo for 2 quarters then played a great 3rd quarter. The moral victory of only losing to OSU by just 4 touchdowns tells us nothing. OSU appears to have some question marks after 2 weeks as well. If we're 3-1 then we know we've turned the corner.
While Ohio State has issues on the OL due to so many draft picks, their Defense returned the most people in the B1G. The same defense that was good enough to make it to the FBS semifinal.
They showed a lot, especially their ability to run between the tackles late in the game.
We should blow out Booby Morris
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We all know Heacock hated these games.
Yes our talent is much better and we will know how much better when we open league play against Nortbern Iowa.
2007 game box
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup/_/gameId/272440194z
Heacock we had what 11 first downs same amount of yardage gained
2008 game ws only had 74 yds total offense
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup/_/gameId/282430194
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Doesn't matter, but an article on the 24-7 website indicated it Washington! The fact is, we played and got a nice payday and kept the money in state!
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We all know Heacock hated these games.
Yes our talent is much better and we will know how much better when we open league play against Nortbern Iowa.
2007 game box
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup/_/gameId/272440194z
Heacock we had what 11 first downs same amount of yardage gained
2008 game ws only had 74 yds total offense
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup/_/gameId/282430194
The talent level at Ohio State has been at a whole different level since Meyer came there. Tressel was a developmental coach that inherited Cooper's elite athletes and won the NC with them. Ohio State was one of the top teams back then, but there some really big differences in the overall talent leve/projected talent level.l
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Why so much negativity? We played solid. OSU is a top 5 program year in and year out and we competed. As the post indicated above, be lucky it wasn't like any of the scores vs other Ohio teams! We got some exposure and got experience and got paid! But I agree, I think the Northern Iowa game might define how our season goes!
Go guins!!
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If we cannot beat UNI then call it the season. UNI stinks. Got burned by Weber state at home to boot. They are 0-2 with both losses by big numbers . UNI is down and the coach up there is on the hot seat. We are up and should compete with all teams remaining on our schedule as long as we don't have any injuries.
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FBS is a whole new ball game now. Things arent as easy for Alabama now that everyone can cheat and pay its players. Alabama wasn't alone but the playing field is whole lot more level because of NLI. I know we got a D2 RB in the portal but with a strong returning OL and the success of Jaleel we should've gone hard after a Power 5 guy in my opinion.