paladin, at least you are consistant. Always the "downer." Yes enrollment has been down, and football attendance has been falling, but JT and BP have been brought in to fix both and I hate to see us try to repeat the historically successful program of trying to "save" ourselves into success. I don't know about hockey, bowling or whatever adding much to the university, but we can't just do the same old thing and expect different results. I would be willing to bet JT will increase enrollment, increase graduation rates, and add 100 million to the YSU endowments in his time as President. I don't doubt the football record also improves.