Starting Quarterback Poll

[ValleyTalk]

Curious to see who everyone thinks the starting QB should be this fall. Vote in the poll and comment with who you selected.

[Penquin68]

Ricky Davis has much more upside than Dante Nania.

[ysufan0505]

Best chance to win with Davis

[HappyPenguin]

Best chance to win with Davis

Agreed!

[Wick250]

During his first year, Wolford stated that, if two players were even in talent, the younger guy would get the nod.  The job belongs to Davis unless he loses it during fall camp.  Anyway, if we are really going to incorporate some designed qb runs into the offense, we might need two or three before the season ends.

The three easy non-conference games that follow Illinois are critical this year.  The starter, probably Davis, should play three out of the four quarters.  But the backup should play a full quarter, probably the second, with the first unit.  Putting a backup quarterback into the game in fourth quarter garbage time is pointless.

[penguinpower]

During his first year, Wolford stated that, if two players were even in talent, the younger guy would get the nod.  The job belongs to Davis unless he loses it during fall camp.  Anyway, if we are really going to incorporate some designed qb runs into the offense, we might need two or three before the season ends.

The three easy non-conference games that follow Illinois are critical this year.  The starter, probably Davis, should play three out of the four quarters.  But the backup should play a full quarter, probably the second, with the first unit.  Putting a backup quarterback into the game in fourth quarter garbage time is pointless.

This regime does not play back-up QB's unless the starter is hurt and it doesn't matter if we up by 50 in garbage time..........theykeep the starter in.

[ValleyTalk]

During his first year, Wolford stated that, if two players were even in talent, the younger guy would get the nod.  The job belongs to Davis unless he loses it during fall camp.  Anyway, if we are really going to incorporate some designed qb runs into the offense, we might need two or three before the season ends.

The three easy non-conference games that follow Illinois are critical this year.  The starter, probably Davis, should play three out of the four quarters.  But the backup should play a full quarter, probably the second, with the first unit.  Putting a backup quarterback into the game in fourth quarter garbage time is pointless.

This regime does not play back-up QB's unless the starter is hurt and it doesn't matter if we up by 50 in garbage time..........theykeep the starter in.

I always get a kick out of posts like this driven by emotions, rather than facts.

Case in point:

In the 2013 season:
-Morehead State game: Dante Nania started the 2nd half with YSU up 43-6:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/boxscores/20130907_rdlr.xml

-Duquesne game: Dante Nania began playing with 10:34 left in the game with YSU up 38-17:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/boxscores/20130921_pbj0.xml?view=plays

-Illinois State game: Dante Nania began playing with 4:34 left in the 3rd quarter with YSU up 52-14:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/boxscores/20131012_qqxy.xml?view=plays

In the 2012 season:
-Valparaiso game: Patrick Angle began playing with 11:18 left in the 1st half with YSU up 35-0:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2012-13/boxscores/20120908_3g9s.xml?view=plays

In the 2011 season:
-Valparaiso game: Marc Kanetsky began playing with 4:34 left in the 1st half with YSU up 56-6:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/boxscores/20110910_menh.xml?view=plays

-St. Francis game: Marc Kanetsky began playing with 9:16 left in the 3rd quarter with YSU up 42-10:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/boxscores/20111022_stim.xml?view=plays

-Western Illinois game: Marc Kanestky began playing with 5:15 left in the 3rd quarter with YSU up 35-7:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/boxscores/20111029_09ir.xml?view=plays

[penguinpower]

Once in 2012 and twice in 2013 are the only times they substituted qb's.  They did it against lower scholarship teams while all along they knew that Hess was going to graduate or possibly get hurt.  No QB in a back up position had any opportunities to play at game speed when the game was not yet determined. That was the underlying meaning behind my statement.  There were several opportunities last year where we had a large lead and could have played other qb's IMOP

[Wick250]

Valley, you actually proved my point.  Garbage time doesn't always start in the fourth quarter.  Look at those scores when the backup entered the contest.  Against these weak teams, we need to get the backup into the game early, when the score is 14-7 and the kid has the chance to use the entire playbook.  That is why I suggest the second quarter.  If the backup messes up, big deal.  The starter returns and we score 35 in the second half.  As penguinpower indicated, those backups had no meaningful experience when they were thrown into the fire. 

[penguinpower]

During his first year, Wolford stated that, if two players were even in talent, the younger guy would get the nod.  The job belongs to Davis unless he loses it during fall camp.  Anyway, if we are really going to incorporate some designed qb runs into the offense, we might need two or three before the season ends.

The three easy non-conference games that follow Illinois are critical this year.  The starter, probably Davis, should play three out of the four quarters.  But the backup should play a full quarter, probably the second, with the first unit.  Putting a backup quarterback into the game in fourth quarter garbage time is pointless.

This regime does not play back-up QB's unless the starter is hurt and it doesn't matter if we up by 50 in garbage time..........theykeep the starter in.

I always get a kick out of posts like this driven by emotions, rather than facts.

Case in point:

In the 2013 season:
-Morehead State game: Dante Nania started the 2nd half with YSU up 43-6:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/boxscores/20130907_rdlr.xml

-Duquesne game: Dante Nania began playing with 10:34 left in the game with YSU up 38-17:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/boxscores/20130921_pbj0.xml?view=plays

-Illinois State game: Dante Nania began playing with 4:34 left in the 3rd quarter with YSU up 52-14:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/boxscores/20131012_qqxy.xml?view=plays

In the 2012 season:
-Valparaiso game: Patrick Angle began playing with 11:18 left in the 1st half with YSU up 35-0:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2012-13/boxscores/20120908_3g9s.xml?view=plays

In the 2011 season:
-Valparaiso game: Marc Kanetsky began playing with 4:34 left in the 1st half with YSU up 56-6:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/boxscores/20110910_menh.xml?view=plays

-St. Francis game: Marc Kanetsky began playing with 9:16 left in the 3rd quarter with YSU up 42-10:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/boxscores/20111022_stim.xml?view=plays

-Western Illinois game: Marc Kanestky began playing with 5:15 left in the 3rd quarter with YSU up 35-7:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/boxscores/20111029_09ir.xml?view=plays

Valley,

I like the fact that you are an optimist.  I used to be back when we had a nasty defense.  Back then I never felt we were out of any game.  We could hang with anyone and when push came to shove the defense would make something spectacular happen.  I never cared what happened witht he back up QB, but they were being prepared.  Tressel used to put the back-up QB in to give him real game experience and he could contribute to win a game if the starter was out.  It also prepared the back-up so you knew who the next QB in the system was going to be.  How could we not know at this point in 2014, especially when everyone knew that Hess was graduating?

[HappyPenguin]

Once in 2012 and twice in 2013 are the only times they substituted qb's.  They did it against lower scholarship teams while all along they knew that Hess was going to graduate or possibly get hurt.  No QB in a back up position had any opportunities to play at game speed when the game was not yet determined. That was the underlying meaning behind my statement.  There were several opportunities last year where we had a large lead and could have played other qb's IMOP

Why would you want a backup playing when a game isn't decided? The point is to win the game, with your best players.

Maybe a series here and there if they have a special package of plays but I don't get it. Training the backup isn't more important than wasting series in close games.

[ysufan0505]

Does anybody remember the Dayton game last yr? That's why you don't let the backups play early.....

[Karl Hungus]

For once Happy makes sense.

[paladin]

I expect Wolf to start Nania in the opener. Then over the course of the 3 weenie games  expect to see Davis "win" the starting job. To me , the season appears to be "scripted". By the time the MVFC chase starts he'll have two players with playing time. If they run the QB this  year as I expect, they need to be ready if one gets hurt and running QBs get hurt.

[Wick250]

Starting Nania at Illinois makes a lot of sense.  The absolute last thing that we need is for a freshman quarterback to get overwhelmed by the environment, make mistakes, and lose his confidence.