Can we still make the playoffs if we win out?

[penguinpower]

Well, can we?  I see us dropping to around 23-25 in the FCS top 25 and possibly dropping out all together, considering the losses and how we lost the last game.  Current site showing playoff projections do not have us in there at all.

[ysubigred]

Well, can we?  I see us dropping to around 23-25 in the FCS top 25 and possibly dropping out all together, considering the losses and how we lost the last game.  Current site showing playoff projections do not have us in there at all.

"IF" YSU wins out it would be hard to keep them out especially with all the parity in the other leagues. The strength of schedule, 1FBS win all Div 1 schedule will be huge.  Not many FCS level teams will have 8 D1 win's. 

  7-4 YSU will be out.

[ysubigred]

Well, can we?  I see us dropping to around 23-25 in the FCS top 25 and possibly dropping out all together, considering the losses and how we lost the last game.  Current site showing playoff projections do not have us in there at all.

TSN

1. Eastern Washington Eagles (125) 6-1 4014 1
2. Georgia Southern Eagles (14) 6-1 3787 3
3. North Dakota State Bison (13) 6-1 3746 4
4. Montana State Bobcats 6-1 3489 5
5. Sam Houston State Bearkats (5) 5-2 3218 6
6. Old Dominion Monarchs 6-1 3089 7
7. Wofford Terriers 6-1 3060 8
8. Lehigh Mountain Hawks (3) 8-0 2839 3
9. James Madison Dukes 5-2 2779 2
10. Stony Brook Seawolves (1) 7-1 2704 10
11. Cal Poly Mustangs (3) 7-0 2437 14
12. New Hampshire Wildcats 6-2 2434 12
13. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 6-1 2083 16
14. Central Arkansas Bears 6-2 1654 19
15. Indiana State Sycamores 6-2 1416 21
16. Appalachian State Mountaineers 5-3 1404 13
17. Illinois State Redbirds 6-2 1394 11
18. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 6-2 1152 23
19. Villanova Wildcats 6-2 1135 24
20. Delaware Blue Hens 5-2 837 25
21. Tennessee State Tigers 7-1 786 17
22. Youngstown State Penguins 4-3 686 15
23. Towson Tigers 3-4 515 15
24. Albany Great Danes 6-1 483 NR
25. Richmond Spiders 5-3 456 NR

Others receiving votes: South Dakota State 337, Southern Illinois 306, UT Martin 246, Harvard 223, Bethune-Cookman 107, Alabama A&M 78, The Citadel 68, Sacramento State 59, McNeese State 55, Jacksonville State 39, Chattanooga 35, Northern Iowa 28, Stephen F. Austin 26, North Carolina Central 25, Princeton 24, Eastern Illinois 14, Samford 9, Montana 6, Southeastern Louisiana 6, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 4, Drake 3, Colgate 2, Fordham 2, North Dakota 1.....

Coaches

Team (No. 1 Votes) 2012 Record Points Previous Ranking
1. Eastern Washington (22) 6-1 642 1
2. Georgia Southern (1) 6-1 614 3
3. North Dakota State (3) 6-1 593 4
4. Montana State 6-1 552 5
5. Sam Houston State 5-2 548 6
6. Lehigh 8-0 494 7
7. Old Dominion 6-1 493 8
8. Wofford 6-1 473 9
9. Stony Brook 7-1 439 10
10. James Madison 5-2 413 2
11. Cal Poly 7-0 398 12
12. New Hampshire 6-2 370 14
13. Northern Arizona 6-1 327 15
14. Central Arkansas 6-2 275 17
15. Appalachian State 5-3 240 11
16. Delaware 5-2 228 T-22
17. Illinois State 6-2 225 13
T-18. Eastern Kentucky 6-2 172 24
T-18. Indiana State 6-2 172 25
20. Albany 6-1 153 T-22
T-21. Tennessee State 7-1 115 18
T-21. Youngstown State 4-3 115 16
23. Villanova 6-2 111 NR
24. Harvard 5-1 56 20
25. Towson 3-4 53 19


Others Receiving Votes: Bethune-Cookman (26), McNeese State (26), UT Martin (25), Richmond (23), Alabama A&M (19), Southern Illinois (17), Sacramento State (16), Jacksonville State (14), Northern Iowa (4), South Dakota State (3), Princeton (3), Samford (2), The Citadel (1).

AGS

1 Eastern Washington Eagles 2357 62
2 North Dakota State Bison 2268 15
3 Georgia Southern Eagles 2229 12
4 Cal Poly Mustangs 2114 9
5 Wofford Terriers 1908
6 Montana State Bobcats 1821
7 Stony Brook Seawolves 1781
8 Old Dominion Monarchs 1699
9 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1695
10 James Madison Dukes 1558
11 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 1402
12 New Hampshire Wildcats 1390
13 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 1382
14 Central Arkansas Bears 974
15 Albany Great Danes 951
16 Indiana State Sycamores 941
17 Appalachian State Mountaineers 894
18 Villanova Wildcats 824
19 Illinois State Redbirds 708
20 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 483
21 Richmond Spiders 463
22 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 393
23 Southern Illinois Salukis 336
24 Youngstown State Penguins 288
25 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 179

Most Significant Win:
Richmond Spiders

Most Significant Loss:
James Madison Dukes

26 Towson Tigers 166
27 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 159
28 Tennessee State Tigers 148
29 The Citadel Bulldogs 79
30 Harvard Crimson 49
31 Northern Iowa Panthers 37
32 Chattanooga Mocs 31
33 Sacramento State Hornets 24
34 Georgia State Panthers 24
35 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 16
36 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 16
37 Drake Bulldogs 14
38 Princeton Tigers 14
39 Lafayette Leopards 13
40 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 9

Professor Chaos's playoff prediction for the MVFC

 For as strong as the MVFC looks as a conference this year it's looking more and more like there may only be two bids out of the league. These are the order, IMO, from most likely to grab a playoff spot to least likely.

1. North Dakota St, 6-1 (3-1): Remaining games are SIU, @MSU, SDSU, @ISUr. Winning 2 of 4 should guarantee a spot.
2. Indiana St, 5-2 (4-1): Remaining games are USD, ISUr, and @YSU. Winning 2 of 3 should guarantee a spot.
3. South Dakota St, 5-2 (3-1): Remaining games are YSU, @SIU, @NDSU, and USD. Winning 3 of 4 should guaranee a spot.
4. Southern Illinois, 5-3 (4-1): Remaining games are @NDSU, SDSU, and WIU. Winning all 3 should guarantee a spot and could give them the autobid.
5. Illinois St, 6-2 (3-2): Remaining games are @UNI, @ISUb, and NDSU. Winning 2 of 3 should guarantee a spot.
6. Youngstown St, 4-3 (1-3): Remaining games are @SDSU, USD, @WIU, and ISUb. Winning all 4 should guranatee a spot.

I'm guessing it'll play out where NDSU finishes at 9-2 or 10-1 and is in easily. I think Indiana St finishes 7-3 (6-2) and is likely in as well. However, after that I think there's going to be a jumble at 7-4 with at least 3 of the 4 remaining teams there. With the number of teams in the other power conferences that will be 8-3 or better I think it's going to be tough for the MVFC to get a 3rd team in. Time will tell.

Team (Max # of DI wins possible)
Lehigh (11)
Cal Poly-SLO (11)
Tennessee State (10)
Georgia Southern (10)
Eastern Washington (10)
Old Dominion (10)
SUNY-Albany (10)
North Dakota State (10)
SUNY-Stony Brook (9)
New Hampshire (9)
Villanova (9)
Illinois State (9)
Tennessee-Martin (9)
Eastern Kentucky (9)
James Madison (9)
Duquesne (9)
Wofford (9)
Harvard (9)
Bethune-Cookman (9)
South Dakota State (9)
Alabama A&M (9)
Lafayette College (9)
Montana State (9)
Northern Arizona (9)
Richmond (
Indiana State (
Appalachian State (
Sacramento State (
Butler (
Central Arkansas (
Jacksonville (FL) (
Drake (
Southern Illinois (
North Carolina Central (
Youngstown State (
Delaware (
Jacksonville State (
Colgate (
Eastern Illinois (
Wagner (
Princeton (
Sam Houston State (
Howard (
Delaware State (
Dartmouth (
The Citadel (
Brown (
Arkansas-Pine Bluff (

48 teams total

[IAA Fan]

Well you know the CAA will get at least 5 ...probably 6 or 7   

[Wick250]

Should we get our act together at SDSU, there are two games this week that could really help us.  We need UNI to beat Illinois State and NDSU to eliminate Southern Illinois. (four losses will finish you off this season.) Both UNI and NDSU are at home, so this should happen.  I then expect NDSU to eliminate Illinois State on the road in the season finale, as NDSU will be playing for the number one or two seed.  If all of that happens, winning the last four will get us in.

[ysufan0505]

YSU can still make the playoffs if they win 3 out of the next 4 games. Need 7 wins for the playoffs

[penguinpower]

YSU can still make the playoffs if they win 3 out of the next 4 games. Need 7 wins for the playoffs

Not sure they will let us in if we don't win all 4.  One of the factors they committee uses is if you have been winning the last few games.  WE were left out one year because we were on the bubble and did not win out.

[Dmorton]

You people are living in a fantasy world if you think we're making the play-offs now!  We're done for the year and SIU sealed our fate.  We will not beat SD State because we can't stop the pass, and they're the best passing team in the MVFC.  In short we need a better defensive plan then the one we have because this one is not working.  Penguinpower has it right, we have to win out.  That ain't happening my friends the way we're playing!

[ysufan0505]

You people are living in a fantasy world if you think we're making the play-offs now!  We're done for the year and SIU sealed our fate.  We will not beat SD State because we can't stop the pass, and they're the best passing team in the MVFC.  In short we need a better defensive plan then the one we have because this one is not working.  Penguinpower has it right, we have to win out.  That ain't happening my friends the way we're playing!

I'm more worried about the offense than the defense

[IAA Fan]

You people are living in a fantasy world if you think we're making the play-offs now!  We're done for the year and SIU sealed our fate.  We will not beat SD State because we can't stop the pass, and they're the best passing team in the MVFC.  In short we need a better defensive plan then the one we have because this one is not working.  Penguinpower has it right, we have to win out.  That ain't happening my friends the way we're playing!

Well at this point I would agree about our fate, and what I think is going to happen with us and the post-season. However, an 8-3 team with a win over Pitt is going to be in the post-season.

As to SDSU, I agree that we will not be able to stop them, but for the opposite reasons.  Sumner plays well for a Soph, but he was not #1 in the conference (like Hess was) as a soph. He only has 5 TD passes in 7 games ...only 4 of which he actually threw a TD in. He is not overly efficient either, but that is what this conference is known for ...he is still rated at 111.5.  They do have an awesome young TB in Zenner ...easily the best in the conference ...I think better than Bell, as he is more mobile ...this is our worry.

[ysuguins4]

YSU can still make the playoffs if they win 3 out of the next 4 games. Need 7 wins for the playoffs

Barring a rash of upsets the last 4 weeks of the season, it is going to be very difficult for any 7-4 team to make the playoffs.  There are still 20 teams from the top 6 conferences with 2 or fewer losses.
MVFC - 4, SOCON - 2, BIG SKY - 4, SOUTHLAND - 2, CAA - 5, OVC - 3 

[Pita]

QUESTION

Does it matter if we make it to playoffs
and are NOT playoff material?

The records indicate which team goes,
and which team waits for another year.

Sorry to have to wait another year, but
for right now that seems to be what
shall be.

[ItalianPenguin]

If we win out we will make the playoffs. If we make the playoffs by winning out, we will be on a 4 game winning streak and obviously feeling better about ourselves than we do now. Once the playoffs start, anything can happen. Did anyone think Indiana St would win at North Dakota St or Missouri St would win at Illinois St? So if you make the playoffs, you are playoff material. A loss Saturday ends those thoughts. Let's see how it plays out.

[ysubigred]

If we win out we will make the playoffs. If we make the playoffs by winning out, we will be on a 4 game winning streak and obviously feeling better about ourselves than we do now. Once the playoffs start, anything can happen. Did anyone think Indiana St would win at North Dakota St or Missouri St would win at Illinois St? So if you make the playoffs, you are playoff material. A loss Saturday ends those thoughts. Let's see how it plays out.

Plus 1 ^^ and I usually don't agree with this guy 

[ysubigred]

QUESTION

Does it matter if we make it to playoffs
and are NOT playoff material?

The records indicate which team goes,
and which team waits for another year.

Sorry to have to wait another year, but
for right now that seems to be what
shall be.

All this non-sense started when we lost our best cheerleader  You my dear