Why they would choose us for the playoffs

[penguinpower]

It would have been nice but it is what it is.

Not that long ago we would have been excited to even be in the conversation.

Some things never change.  That being said we have to win the conference to guarantee a spot in the playoffs.  It's no longer just a simple probability that we've been left out.  Montana has a weak schians they were blown out.  Delaware lost several games to end the season.  Those were the excuses we were given in the past. 

They conspire against us.  Period.  We need to run up the score as much as possible on every team we outmatch.  Push everyone and act unsportsmanlike when we lose.  Maybe then we will get the respect.

[Double ET]

The Cosgrove FCS ranking system had us at 37

https://www.collegefootballpoll.com/fcs/rankings/

Seriously, St. Francis is at 13 and Dayton is at 40, 3 spots below us?

[goodnews]

The FCS cannot stand YSU.  The ranking makes NO sense.  We are 37 with a SOS of 9?  POLITICAL.  Our AD doesn't help either. 

[Wick250]

Reading these comments, the only thing that surprised me is that some of you are surprised. The NCAA selection committee has been a corrupt institution for decades. The NCAA organization really does not care about IAA/FCS football.  They know this system is flawed but have failed to fix it for generations.

If the NCAA were interested in running an honest playoff, they need do only three simple things.

First, eliminate the conference ADs and staff the committee with about five retired, well-respected football people who no longer had any institutional affiliation.  And pay them well for their service.

Second, publish for all to see the criteria that will be used for at-large selections.  And stick to that criteria.

Third, and most importantly, how the five-man committee release a power ranking of all teams with a .500 or above record after the games on the first Saturday of November.  And make it clear that the at-large bids will come from that list.  You may or may not like your position, but you would know exactly where you stood. And the possibility for corruption would dramatically decrease.

That is what the NCAA would do if they cared.  They don't.

[YSUGO]

Wick all good points.  I said yesterday that we won’t get in.  The history was there for us not to get picked.  You are right about the AD’s.  That needs to be changed.  Honestly the whole FCS system needs revamped.  How is it fair for a non scholly or a conference that they do not spend the money get an auto bid.  It’s a joke teams like St Francis Dayton don’t spend squat.  But we beat our heads into the ground playing in an upper tier conference and we get screwed over and over.  It’s just a joke

[ytownchief22]

If you watched that football team and thought we deserved to be in the playoffs, take off the red tinted glasses. That was a 1 man show. Next year will be brutal unless they kill it in the portal.

[Double ET]

Wick all good points.  I said yesterday that we won’t get in.  The history was there for us not to get picked.  You are right about the AD’s.  That needs to be changed.  Honestly the whole FCS system needs revamped.  How is it fair for a non scholly or a conference that they do not spend the money get an auto bid.  It’s a joke teams like St Francis Dayton don’t spend squat.  But we beat our heads into the ground playing in an upper tier conference and we get screwed over and over.  It’s just a joke

The selection committee reminds me of the admission office in many universities. In the name of diversity and affirmative action, one ethnic group is often given special quota over the other ethnic groups with far superior achievement’s.
This is why it is being reviewed by the Supreme Court right now.
The selection committee is simply following the same liberal  philosophy.

[guinpen]

The number of people on the committee or their experience will not change things. Having only 5 members means that there are less folks to buy-off.

The only way to fix it is to take humans out of the process and get rid of auto bids - period!

Let a computer do it. Develop a program that ranks every 1-AA team based on SOS and record, after the first month of the season start to publish the ranking weekly. Losing to a top 25 FBS school by 10 should mean more then beating a D2 school by 10. Going 4 and 4 in a strong conference should not hurt your chances just like going 8-0 in a weak conference should not help your chances.

Force teams to step up their schedule, force leagues to raise the bar if they are interested in making the play-offs.

Ohio does a decent job of coming up with computer rankings for high school football based on SOS, the NCAA should be able to come up with something to fit their needs.  Sure there would be a lot of factors involved but it could and should be done.

Let everyone know the rules and let the best 16 teams make the play-offs.


 

[penguinpower]

Here's the problem with them taking Montana over YSU and It's a flat out legitimate complaint

Montana didn't beat a team over .500 record and finished 6th in their conference behind UC Davis Sac, MSU, Weber, and Idaho. (Davis wasn't invited).  In addition, Montana had a blow-out loss the day before the selection. 

Meanwhile, YSU had won 5 of their last 6 games and has the all time leading rusher in the history of college football and was arguably playing their best football late in the year.  The QB change made all the difference. And we also play in a tougher conference and we finished 4th.  Montana also got a home game out of it too.

Anyone saying we didn't belong is feeding you a bullsh** narrative.  As I've laid out the facts here, we should have been selected if the system wasn't rigged.  The comment about rigged elections applies here.  Our resume was way better than Montana's.  Don't get me started on Delaware.  We only need one of the available spots and they should have selected us.  We have a legitimate gripe about not getting in. 

I was told in the past that the people making the selection are honorable people and set aside self interests. I've been told that each year we've been left out had some sort of unique circumstances.  I called it bullsh** when it happened in the past. 

This time the stupid motherf***ers didn't cover their tracks.  How much money did the university lose in future football revenue due to recruiting impacts as a result of this unfairness?  For me this only gets solved with a law suit.

Paladin correctly pointed out on the AGS board that the NCAA has sanctionedthis "corrupt" process and given it their seal of approval.  The only way you change it is to fight it, which is something Americans seem to no longer do.
 

[penguinpower]

UC Davis should have been taken over Montana based on the conference standings in the Big Sky. We were totally screwed once again l.

[penguinpower]

I reached out to the conference commissioner.  Realize that Delaware lost 3 of it's last 4 games.  I focused on Montana.

Here's the jist of what she said:

She shares the sentiment about the unfairness of YSU not being selected.  She also said "she can’t begin to explain or support the Committee’s decision" and that they clearly did not value strength of schedule or how teams were playing at the end of the season.

Hopefully, she tries to address this.  She's a good commissioner.


We can't control the conference schedule.  We can only play the games that are scheduled.

[penguinpower]

In 2012 we had an FBS win over Pitt and won the last 3 games under Wolford and went 7-4 but we weren't selected.  Delaware had a win over Navy and lost 3 out of 4 of their last games and we're 7-4 and got selected. 

What was the reasoning for that?  I thought you had to be a team on the rise of you were a bubble team.  Their only win in the last 4 games was Monmouth.  Navy has a losing record too. 

I can see the FBS win counting for something but we got screwed when similar circumstances existed (actually we had more favorable argument and didn't get in).

[penguinpower]

In 2013 YSU went 8-4 (5-3) in the MVFC and we didn't get into the playoffs.

[Dmorton]

One extra home playoff game and preparing for another in the second round would have made a world of difference for this team in terms of experience for next season!  Thanks a lot NCAA selection committee, you managed to screw YSU again!

[YSUinBoston]

2012 isn't a totally fair comparison because that was still the 16 team field.

The 2013 team did lose three in a row, including getting blasted in back-to-back home games at the end of the year against playoff teams.

It is disappointing though that they didn't make it. Not letting Mo. State to drive 92 years would have probably been a good idea in retrospect