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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: ISU - from today’s Tribune/Vindy
« Last post by Double ET on Today at 09:32:18 AM »YSU Scouting Report: Week 8
LOCAL SPORTS
OCT 21, 2021
JOEL WHETZEL
Staff writer
jwhetzel@tribtoday.com
Correspondent photo / Robert Hayes Youngstown State quarterback Demeatric Crenshaw (10) tries to evade a pair of Missouri State defenders during the Penguins’ 41-33 upset win two weeks ago. YSU visits Indiana State on Saturday.
Talk about a brutal home stretch.
Entering the second half of its season at 2-3, Youngstown State will face some of the best in the FCS to finish its season out, as three of its remaining five opponents are in this week’s Stats Perform Top 25. Those three are South Dakota State (No. 6), North Dakota State (No. 3) and Southern Illinois (No. 4). In addition, North Dakota just dropped out last week, but could find itself ranked again once it gets back on track.
Before that gauntlet, however, the Penguins travel to Terre Haute, Ind., to face the Indiana State Sycamores, who enter at 3-4 and certainly are beatable.
The term “must win” gets thrown around a lot these days, but this is as close to that as possible if the Penguins want to extend their progress from the 41-33 upset of Missouri State two weeks ago and continue that mojo into the final four weeks of the year.
ISU’s offense has struggled, as it ranks at the bottom of the Missouri Valley Football Conference in points per game (15.6) and total yardage (265.1). Given that YSU has allowed 37.6 points per game this year, we’ll soon find out if that’s due to the prolific offenses the Penguins have faced, or if deeper concerns are present.
Meanwhile, ISU has allowed 30.3 points per game, and YSU is scoring just under that with 28.2 points per game.
QUARTERBACKS
YSU — Demeatric Crenshaw is coming off his most complete performance of the season, having completed 10 of 19 pa$$es for 99 yards and two touchdowns. He also ran for 195 yards and a touchdown.
The pa$$ing numbers won’t jump off the stat sheet, but being able to complete downfield pa$$es like he did last game will continue to open things up for Crenshaw and the YSU backfield. Crenshaw’s 97.4 rushing yards per game are 16th-best in the FCS.
ISU — Anthony Thompson is 94-of-154 this season with 918 yards and six touchdowns. He’s been picked off five times. His 131.14 yards per game are 84th in the FCS, and he won’t factor into the ISU run game.
EDGE — Youngstown State
RUNNING BACKS
YSU — Jaleel McLaughlin is the FCS’ third-leading rusher at 117.6 yards per game, and the Penguins also get Christian Turner back from injury this week.
The Sycamore defense gives up 152 yards per game on the ground, which ranks seventh in the MVFC.
ISU — Peterson Kerlegrand heads up a Sycamore ground game that ranks 10th out of 11 teams in the MVFC in terms of yardage per game. Kerlegrand has run for 473 yards this year and has scored three times. He also has five receptions for 67 yards.
EDGE — Youngstown State
WIDE RECEIVERS
YSU — Given the opportunity to make plays downfield two weeks ago, YSU’s receivers capitalized. Sam St. Surin hauled in a 28-yard touchdown pa$$, while Jorge Portorreal had a 6-yard scoring grab.
Tight end Andrew Ogletree has 15 receptions for 120 yards this season, and is often one of Crenshaw’s most preferred targets.
ISU — Dante Hendrix is one of the top receivers in the MVFC, but has been limited to just two games this year due to injury. He played in ISU’s season opener, then didn’t appear again until last week against Missouri State.
That said, he made his presence immediately known, as he hauled in 10 catches for 121 yards and a touchdown against the Bears. Morgan Rontrez has 33 receptions for 241 yards this year, while Phazi McClurge has 22 grabs for 286 yards and three scores.
EDGE — Indiana State
OFFENSIVE LINE
YSU — After the upset of MSU, Penguin head coach Doug Phillips said the offensive linemen sat down in the week before to “kumbaya” and get things together. It showed, as YSU bulldozed what was a top 15 rushing defense for 377 yards and four touchdowns. In addition, Crenshaw finally had time to complete pa$$es beyond the short- to mid-range routes. If the Penguins are to succeed, the front will have to keep progressing off of that step forward.
ISU — The Sycamore front is anchored by guard Isaiah Edwards, who has received MVFC honors during his career at ISU. Indiana State allows 1.71 sacks per game, and the rushing offense is 10th in the MVFC right now.
EDGE — Youngstown State
DEFENSIVE LINE
YSU — The YSU defensive front did a much better job of applying pressure against Missouri State than in previous weeks, as Jason Shelley often was scrambling around and was sacked four times. Hunter Allen had 1.5 of those, while Chris Fitzgerald had a TFL.
ISU — Inoke Moala’s 1.14 sacks per game (8 total) rank him eighth in the nation right now, and Indiana State as a whole averages 3.43 sacks per game, which is 7th in the FCS. Expect Moala to wreak a little havoc on Saturday, as he also has 12 TFLs.
EDGE — Indiana State
LINEBACKERS
YSU — Grant Dixon and Griffin Hoak took a collective step forward two weeks ago, as Hoak led the team with two sacks while Dixon had an a$$isted sack plus 1.5 TFLs.
ISU — Geoffrey Brown is the top linebacker for the Sycamores, with 31 tackles, six TFLs and a sack. Matt Thompson has notched two TFLs and a sack of his own.
EDGE — Youngstown State
SECONDARY
YSU — The Penguin secondary has been prone to giving up big plays this year, and Hendrix will certainly provide a tough test.
Still, this group is coming off a performance in which Keyon Martin and Jordan White each recorded an interception. White also led the Penguins in tackles that game.
ISU — This unit also has struggled, as the Sycamores have given up the 9th-most yards per game in the MVFC (247). Michael Thomas has two picks this season and two PBUs, while Mekhi Ware has four PBUs. In all, ISU has intercepted five pa$$es this season.
EDGE — Indiana State
SPECIALISTS
YSU — Colt McFadden is 5-for-6 this season, and booted through a pair of kicks against MSU. His long is from 45 yards out. Paddy Lynch and Nick DeSalvo still split punting duties, and have done well together. Sam St. Surin also turned in an explosive kick return that set up a Jaleel McLaughlin touchdown run against the Bears.
ISU — Alan Selzer is 6-for-9 on field goals this season, while Travis Reiner has 13 punts inside the 20 and seven that went beyond 50 yards.
EDGE — Youngstown State
PREDICTION
Coming off a ma$$ive win over Missouri State followed by a bye week, the Penguins should be both confident and rested.
Look for YSU to handle business on the road and get back to .500, courtesy of a big day on the ground and what should be the defense’s best performance this season.
Youngstown State wins, 31-17.
LOCAL SPORTS
OCT 21, 2021
JOEL WHETZEL
Staff writer
jwhetzel@tribtoday.com
Correspondent photo / Robert Hayes Youngstown State quarterback Demeatric Crenshaw (10) tries to evade a pair of Missouri State defenders during the Penguins’ 41-33 upset win two weeks ago. YSU visits Indiana State on Saturday.
Talk about a brutal home stretch.
Entering the second half of its season at 2-3, Youngstown State will face some of the best in the FCS to finish its season out, as three of its remaining five opponents are in this week’s Stats Perform Top 25. Those three are South Dakota State (No. 6), North Dakota State (No. 3) and Southern Illinois (No. 4). In addition, North Dakota just dropped out last week, but could find itself ranked again once it gets back on track.
Before that gauntlet, however, the Penguins travel to Terre Haute, Ind., to face the Indiana State Sycamores, who enter at 3-4 and certainly are beatable.
The term “must win” gets thrown around a lot these days, but this is as close to that as possible if the Penguins want to extend their progress from the 41-33 upset of Missouri State two weeks ago and continue that mojo into the final four weeks of the year.
ISU’s offense has struggled, as it ranks at the bottom of the Missouri Valley Football Conference in points per game (15.6) and total yardage (265.1). Given that YSU has allowed 37.6 points per game this year, we’ll soon find out if that’s due to the prolific offenses the Penguins have faced, or if deeper concerns are present.
Meanwhile, ISU has allowed 30.3 points per game, and YSU is scoring just under that with 28.2 points per game.
QUARTERBACKS
YSU — Demeatric Crenshaw is coming off his most complete performance of the season, having completed 10 of 19 pa$$es for 99 yards and two touchdowns. He also ran for 195 yards and a touchdown.
The pa$$ing numbers won’t jump off the stat sheet, but being able to complete downfield pa$$es like he did last game will continue to open things up for Crenshaw and the YSU backfield. Crenshaw’s 97.4 rushing yards per game are 16th-best in the FCS.
ISU — Anthony Thompson is 94-of-154 this season with 918 yards and six touchdowns. He’s been picked off five times. His 131.14 yards per game are 84th in the FCS, and he won’t factor into the ISU run game.
EDGE — Youngstown State
RUNNING BACKS
YSU — Jaleel McLaughlin is the FCS’ third-leading rusher at 117.6 yards per game, and the Penguins also get Christian Turner back from injury this week.
The Sycamore defense gives up 152 yards per game on the ground, which ranks seventh in the MVFC.
ISU — Peterson Kerlegrand heads up a Sycamore ground game that ranks 10th out of 11 teams in the MVFC in terms of yardage per game. Kerlegrand has run for 473 yards this year and has scored three times. He also has five receptions for 67 yards.
EDGE — Youngstown State
WIDE RECEIVERS
YSU — Given the opportunity to make plays downfield two weeks ago, YSU’s receivers capitalized. Sam St. Surin hauled in a 28-yard touchdown pa$$, while Jorge Portorreal had a 6-yard scoring grab.
Tight end Andrew Ogletree has 15 receptions for 120 yards this season, and is often one of Crenshaw’s most preferred targets.
ISU — Dante Hendrix is one of the top receivers in the MVFC, but has been limited to just two games this year due to injury. He played in ISU’s season opener, then didn’t appear again until last week against Missouri State.
That said, he made his presence immediately known, as he hauled in 10 catches for 121 yards and a touchdown against the Bears. Morgan Rontrez has 33 receptions for 241 yards this year, while Phazi McClurge has 22 grabs for 286 yards and three scores.
EDGE — Indiana State
OFFENSIVE LINE
YSU — After the upset of MSU, Penguin head coach Doug Phillips said the offensive linemen sat down in the week before to “kumbaya” and get things together. It showed, as YSU bulldozed what was a top 15 rushing defense for 377 yards and four touchdowns. In addition, Crenshaw finally had time to complete pa$$es beyond the short- to mid-range routes. If the Penguins are to succeed, the front will have to keep progressing off of that step forward.
ISU — The Sycamore front is anchored by guard Isaiah Edwards, who has received MVFC honors during his career at ISU. Indiana State allows 1.71 sacks per game, and the rushing offense is 10th in the MVFC right now.
EDGE — Youngstown State
DEFENSIVE LINE
YSU — The YSU defensive front did a much better job of applying pressure against Missouri State than in previous weeks, as Jason Shelley often was scrambling around and was sacked four times. Hunter Allen had 1.5 of those, while Chris Fitzgerald had a TFL.
ISU — Inoke Moala’s 1.14 sacks per game (8 total) rank him eighth in the nation right now, and Indiana State as a whole averages 3.43 sacks per game, which is 7th in the FCS. Expect Moala to wreak a little havoc on Saturday, as he also has 12 TFLs.
EDGE — Indiana State
LINEBACKERS
YSU — Grant Dixon and Griffin Hoak took a collective step forward two weeks ago, as Hoak led the team with two sacks while Dixon had an a$$isted sack plus 1.5 TFLs.
ISU — Geoffrey Brown is the top linebacker for the Sycamores, with 31 tackles, six TFLs and a sack. Matt Thompson has notched two TFLs and a sack of his own.
EDGE — Youngstown State
SECONDARY
YSU — The Penguin secondary has been prone to giving up big plays this year, and Hendrix will certainly provide a tough test.
Still, this group is coming off a performance in which Keyon Martin and Jordan White each recorded an interception. White also led the Penguins in tackles that game.
ISU — This unit also has struggled, as the Sycamores have given up the 9th-most yards per game in the MVFC (247). Michael Thomas has two picks this season and two PBUs, while Mekhi Ware has four PBUs. In all, ISU has intercepted five pa$$es this season.
EDGE — Indiana State
SPECIALISTS
YSU — Colt McFadden is 5-for-6 this season, and booted through a pair of kicks against MSU. His long is from 45 yards out. Paddy Lynch and Nick DeSalvo still split punting duties, and have done well together. Sam St. Surin also turned in an explosive kick return that set up a Jaleel McLaughlin touchdown run against the Bears.
ISU — Alan Selzer is 6-for-9 on field goals this season, while Travis Reiner has 13 punts inside the 20 and seven that went beyond 50 yards.
EDGE — Youngstown State
PREDICTION
Coming off a ma$$ive win over Missouri State followed by a bye week, the Penguins should be both confident and rested.
Look for YSU to handle business on the road and get back to .500, courtesy of a big day on the ground and what should be the defense’s best performance this season.
Youngstown State wins, 31-17.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / ISU
« Last post by peteonastick on Today at 07:42:44 AM »Must win on the road! Heard they have the number one defensive player in sacks and tackles for loss. Need to control the line! Win this. Go 3-3 into the meat grinder at the end of the year.
Go Guins!
Go Guins!
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: All about the money
« Last post by IAA Fan on October 18, 2021, 04:00:12 PM »It is far more complicated, but also far less. This is football only.
1. We all want to be a big shot and play P5's? Heck no. It is one thing to let your pride feel you can defeat a power team. It is another be shown you cannot. As long as you play and lose to Big-10 schools, you are nothing in the eyes of 9 out of 10 fans in "big-10 country" (AKA Youngstown). Nobody wants P5 games NOBODY in their right mind that is. Let fans live in their own world where YSU is so good they can defeat P5 programs; then they will be happy. Show them the Guins cannot and you do nothing but create more OSU/Michigan fans.
2. Do we need 6 home games no matter who it is against? Heck Yes. As has been mentioned:
- Loges are big $$$. Loges cost is based on the number of times it can be used in a year. The difference from 5 games to 6 is quite significant. You may see it as scheduling a win, but it is really scheduling a win and increasing loge revenue by as much as 18%.
- Game Programs are the same. People pay serious money to advertise in those. If I can show the perspective advertising buyer an extra game, it increases that revenue by at least 20%
- Stadium Signage is no different. signs in the ice castle can go from $5k to $75 (and much more in some cases like scoreboards). Again cost is based on size, location (TV hits) and the number of chances to be seen (= number of games).
- Television Revenue, also not different...One game makes all the difference in the world. Maybe one game is not a big deal but a chance to carry all the games adds up. With our new media center, most of the transmission costs have become operational (fixed for you accountants). Pay for a couple of people as talent and you are set.
- Tailgating: Tailgating pa$$es are $25 a game. That 'ads' (pun intended) up as well. Tailgaters show up & YSU sells several hundreds of tailgate pa$$es per game.
3. So how important is scheduling the easiest schedule possible to make the post-season?
- Well imagine adding another game, or 2, or 3 to the above and making the play-off (a$$uming a home game)? More revenue.
So, let's take a look at a typical season, where the requirement to make in order to qualify for the play-off is a minimum of 7-wins vs D1 opposition. In our case, it really is 8 wins because only one team gets the auto-bid for the MVFC. This leaves only 3 games to schedule one more MVFC games + a money game + another D1 game (which for now has to be another conference game).
1) 11 games
2) 9 conference games, which will mean 4-5 and 5-4 for home games (remember, the goal has to be to maximize home games)
3) one money game
4) One remaining game which has to be at home at least every other year to compensate for years when we have 5 away game in-conference.
This is it, no other way to do it until we can dump money-games, which is now so engrained in our system, it will probably never happen. Or we can split the conference and drop one conference game in favor of another home game.
1. We all want to be a big shot and play P5's? Heck no. It is one thing to let your pride feel you can defeat a power team. It is another be shown you cannot. As long as you play and lose to Big-10 schools, you are nothing in the eyes of 9 out of 10 fans in "big-10 country" (AKA Youngstown). Nobody wants P5 games NOBODY in their right mind that is. Let fans live in their own world where YSU is so good they can defeat P5 programs; then they will be happy. Show them the Guins cannot and you do nothing but create more OSU/Michigan fans.
2. Do we need 6 home games no matter who it is against? Heck Yes. As has been mentioned:
- Loges are big $$$. Loges cost is based on the number of times it can be used in a year. The difference from 5 games to 6 is quite significant. You may see it as scheduling a win, but it is really scheduling a win and increasing loge revenue by as much as 18%.
- Game Programs are the same. People pay serious money to advertise in those. If I can show the perspective advertising buyer an extra game, it increases that revenue by at least 20%
- Stadium Signage is no different. signs in the ice castle can go from $5k to $75 (and much more in some cases like scoreboards). Again cost is based on size, location (TV hits) and the number of chances to be seen (= number of games).
- Television Revenue, also not different...One game makes all the difference in the world. Maybe one game is not a big deal but a chance to carry all the games adds up. With our new media center, most of the transmission costs have become operational (fixed for you accountants). Pay for a couple of people as talent and you are set.
- Tailgating: Tailgating pa$$es are $25 a game. That 'ads' (pun intended) up as well. Tailgaters show up & YSU sells several hundreds of tailgate pa$$es per game.
3. So how important is scheduling the easiest schedule possible to make the post-season?
- Well imagine adding another game, or 2, or 3 to the above and making the play-off (a$$uming a home game)? More revenue.
So, let's take a look at a typical season, where the requirement to make in order to qualify for the play-off is a minimum of 7-wins vs D1 opposition. In our case, it really is 8 wins because only one team gets the auto-bid for the MVFC. This leaves only 3 games to schedule one more MVFC games + a money game + another D1 game (which for now has to be another conference game).
1) 11 games
2) 9 conference games, which will mean 4-5 and 5-4 for home games (remember, the goal has to be to maximize home games)
3) one money game
4) One remaining game which has to be at home at least every other year to compensate for years when we have 5 away game in-conference.
This is it, no other way to do it until we can dump money-games, which is now so engrained in our system, it will probably never happen. Or we can split the conference and drop one conference game in favor of another home game.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: All about the money
« Last post by guinpen on October 18, 2021, 02:53:54 PM »Not uncommon, promise that new money will go somewhere and it will, they never say that other monies will stop going there.No doubt YSU and many other state Universities in Ohio are in money trouble. They are in a similar box. Tuition increases are limited by the state of Ohio and enrollments are down due to changing demographics in much of the former Rust Belt; less young people graduating from high school and attending any college. And most state Universities have union contracts which have contract mandated raises for the work force. So less income and more expenses. Difficult situation for sure and it is happening at YSU, Akron U and others, some hurt more than others. If YSU or others try to cut progams or reduce employees to fix the overall budget, a big fight begins and the constant solution put forth by many is to cut athletic budgets to fix the problem. Also YSU quit trying to serve the underprepared students, giving them to Eastern Gateway CommunityCollege, who now has an enrollment of 40,000! And remember back in the 1970's there was no state income tax and the state of Ohio covered about 75% of YSU's budget and the student tuition about 25%. Now those numbers are reversed and we have a state income tax. All these investigative critics in the media do not look into what happened here, but students now need to cover most of their college expenses and the state has a huge new revenue source. Where did the money go? I doubt that the Dokata teams face similar money issues. My fear is that our athletic budgets which are thin now will get thinner and our athletic programs will suffer. Forget the MAC, we will have trouble staying where we are. And it is not the Athletic Directors fault like many here like to claim; he is in a tough spot and doing very well in the box he is in. My opinion.
Excellent points about the state income tax and the loss of tuition from unprepared students now at the community college. I will add something else. When Ohio voters approved the state lottery, they were promised that ALL proceeds would go to the various levels of education. Had the politicians, Democrats and Republicans alike, kept that promise, then YSU, all other state universities, and the public elementary and secondary schools would be swimming in funding. But of course it was all a lie. The politicians did not add the lottery proceeds as the people expected, they shuffled the money already appropriated to education in the traditional way to other projects. So our students pay and pay and incur way too much debt.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: All about the money
« Last post by Wick250 on October 18, 2021, 02:11:51 PM »No doubt YSU and many other state Universities in Ohio are in money trouble. They are in a similar box. Tuition increases are limited by the state of Ohio and enrollments are down due to changing demographics in much of the former Rust Belt; less young people graduating from high school and attending any college. And most state Universities have union contracts which have contract mandated raises for the work force. So less income and more expenses. Difficult situation for sure and it is happening at YSU, Akron U and others, some hurt more than others. If YSU or others try to cut progams or reduce employees to fix the overall budget, a big fight begins and the constant solution put forth by many is to cut athletic budgets to fix the problem. Also YSU quit trying to serve the underprepared students, giving them to Eastern Gateway CommunityCollege, who now has an enrollment of 40,000! And remember back in the 1970's there was no state income tax and the state of Ohio covered about 75% of YSU's budget and the student tuition about 25%. Now those numbers are reversed and we have a state income tax. All these investigative critics in the media do not look into what happened here, but students now need to cover most of their college expenses and the state has a huge new revenue source. Where did the money go? I doubt that the Dokata teams face similar money issues. My fear is that our athletic budgets which are thin now will get thinner and our athletic programs will suffer. Forget the MAC, we will have trouble staying where we are. And it is not the Athletic Directors fault like many here like to claim; he is in a tough spot and doing very well in the box he is in. My opinion.
Excellent points about the state income tax and the loss of tuition from unprepared students now at the community college. I will add something else. When Ohio voters approved the state lottery, they were promised that ALL proceeds would go to the various levels of education. Had the politicians, Democrats and Republicans alike, kept that promise, then YSU, all other state universities, and the public elementary and secondary schools would be swimming in funding. But of course it was all a lie. The politicians did not add the lottery proceeds as the people expected, they shuffled the money already appropriated to education in the traditional way to other projects. So our students pay and pay and incur way too much debt.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: All about the money
« Last post by Penguin Nation on October 18, 2021, 10:05:36 AM »Any talk of solutions are only mental gymnastics as long as our current AD somehow remains employed, but here I go anyway….
My suggestion:
For a 3 game OOC schedule: AWAY: 1 P5 $$ game, 1 G5 quasi-$$ game ($300K plus probable short bus commute and reasonable chance of a victory and increased fan interest). HOME: A red meat game against NEC/PIONEER
For a 4 game OOC schedule: add another P5 >G5……NOT another cupcake.
I get that revenue generation is more complicated than mere scheduling and a book could be written about it. Other possibilities include not alienating fans by recruiting convicted rapists, etc.
My suggestion:
For a 3 game OOC schedule: AWAY: 1 P5 $$ game, 1 G5 quasi-$$ game ($300K plus probable short bus commute and reasonable chance of a victory and increased fan interest). HOME: A red meat game against NEC/PIONEER
For a 4 game OOC schedule: add another P5 >G5……NOT another cupcake.
I get that revenue generation is more complicated than mere scheduling and a book could be written about it. Other possibilities include not alienating fans by recruiting convicted rapists, etc.