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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire D'Alesio
« Last post by goodnews on November 14, 2019, 07:57:50 PM »
Maybe they can re-hire the older Stoops back too for special teams.  What a gross waste of a salary for YEARS.  Wasn't he supposed to be the liaison for local high school coaches?  Collected a salary for too many years.  Anyone see a trend yet? 
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire D'Alesio
« Last post by HappyPenguin on November 14, 2019, 06:49:22 PM »
I can't honestly believe that you are proposing to add a high school coach as the OC. This is exactly how we ended up where we are. We need to get some top graduate assistants that are completing their time and are ready to coach at the college level. Our problem was not the OC. The problem is the OL coach and the D'alesio mess.

Exactly this...all of it.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini
« Last post by penguinpower on November 14, 2019, 05:37:16 PM »
I'm reading some of these posts and am just incredulous!   Somebody thinks we are starting Men's swimming to attract 45 men as students who wouldn't have otherwise attend?  I read this twice to be sure I was reading correctly.  The cost of Men's Swimming will be hundreds of times more that any tuition paid by the new students.  This is so outlandish as to make me thing is is joke.
Now I am reading about the Iowa high school wrestlers going to Iowa to play football and that is why there OL is better than ours, because we don't have enough wrestlers?  Seriously?  I know, we'll fire Bo Pelini and hire Randy Orton or maybe even Stone Cold Steve Austin as our new HC!!!  The mentality of a wrestler and a football player are reasonably close and I'm NOT suggesting we stay away from wrestlers being recruited as football players.  Several very good NFL players have wrestling backgrounds.  But the stars of Iowa aren't coming to YSU and we don't have great wrestling programs around us to recruit from, this is just so much wasted key strokes.  The heart of the problem is the name of the thread, please re-read:  Fire Pelini


The best wrestling schools have the best football teams and it is not a coincidence
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire D'Alesio
« Last post by penguinpower on November 14, 2019, 05:34:48 PM »
I can't honestly believe that you are proposing to add a high school coach as the OC. This is exactly how we ended up where we are. We need to get some top graduate assistants that are completing their time and are ready to coach at the college level. Our problem was not the OC. The problem is the OL coach and the D'alesio mess.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire D'Alesio
« Last post by go guins on November 14, 2019, 04:53:10 PM »
I turned off the South Dakota game in the third quarter.  I'm assuming Waid did not play.  Correct?  That would give him one more free game.  Play Craycraft against Indiana State and give Waid the entire game against Illinois State on the final week.  Let's get a glimpse of him against a good team that needs to win to advance to the playoffs.  Right now nobody really knows what this kid can do. 

Any other freshman who has not yet seen the field but is being counted on heavily by the coaches for the future should start the last two games.  What is the worst that can happen?  Give up 56 points and get crushed?  Par for the course.
I agree with your thoughts 100%  Move Carl to the D, Move Waid to QB and find a OC that features a spread attack and let's go.  Pat Pearson from Girard would be a place to start looking for an OC.  He too a team without Waid to the playoffs with plenty of offensive stats I believe.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini
« Last post by go guins on November 14, 2019, 04:42:40 PM »
I'm reading some of these posts and am just incredulous!   Somebody thinks we are starting Men's swimming to attract 45 men as students who wouldn't have otherwise attend?  I read this twice to be sure I was reading correctly.  The cost of Men's Swimming will be hundreds of times more that any tuition paid by the new students.  This is so outlandish as to make me thing is is joke.
Now I am reading about the Iowa high school wrestlers going to Iowa to play football and that is why there OL is better than ours, because we don't have enough wrestlers?  Seriously?  I know, we'll fire Bo Pelini and hire Randy Orton or maybe even Stone Cold Steve Austin as our new HC!!!  The mentality of a wrestler and a football player are reasonably close and I'm NOT suggesting we stay away from wrestlers being recruited as football players.  Several very good NFL players have wrestling backgrounds.  But the stars of Iowa aren't coming to YSU and we don't have great wrestling programs around us to recruit from, this is just so much wasted key strokes.  The heart of the problem is the name of the thread, please re-read:  Fire Pelini 
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini
« Last post by peteonastick on November 14, 2019, 03:37:53 PM »
I cannot agree with the multi-sport athletes at the DI level. Don't get me wrong, having down linemen that can wrestle is always nice because they learn to use their hands and maybe some foot skills. That is about it. We are not a D-III school so we cannot pattern anything off of any D-III program. They need multi-sport athletes as they do not have scholarships for football. YSU is a DI program that has 63 scholarships that are just for football players and that is what we need to be recruiting ...and we are not doing so right now. I am not excited about a 220lb DL from Canfield unless he is playing in the Ohio/PA all-star game at defensive-end and rotated into the offensive backfield. I would rather spend my DL money on a kid that has a chance of getting to 320lbs. There are very few scholarships at wrestling & if he went to Princeton, he is solid in wrestling and in the classroom. Probably not a Penguin football candidate.

I hate to say it, but as Heacock found out, there are not too many quality local kids that are not going to larger programs. The days of finding real talent in the 2nd & 3rd string local players is certainly gone by now. Just how many DI schools are in the Valley these days?

Jake Esarco. 6í4Ē 290 at Colgate. He wrestled at 220 in high school. That is where we are missing the boat. We donít know how to develop players and see potential.  Check out the starting offensive line from Iowa when you get the chance. All 5 were either state champ wrestlers or placers. I think good coaches want multi sport athletes that COMPETE!!! Not just single sport athletes that donít know how to WIN!! Losing is a disease. We donít have tough, hard nosed ATHLETES!! That can move. Have skills beyond those required for positions. The athletes that NDSU put on the field were just that - ATHLETIC!  You didnít have to be a football coach to see the difference between our sloppy and slow players vs. their athletic talent.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire D'Alesio
« Last post by Wick250 on November 14, 2019, 02:49:29 PM »
I turned off the South Dakota game in the third quarter.  I'm assuming Waid did not play.  Correct?  That would give him one more free game.  Play Craycraft against Indiana State and give Waid the entire game against Illinois State on the final week.  Let's get a glimpse of him against a good team that needs to win to advance to the playoffs.  Right now nobody really knows what this kid can do. 

Any other freshman who has not yet seen the field but is being counted on heavily by the coaches for the future should start the last two games.  What is the worst that can happen?  Give up 56 points and get crushed?  Par for the course.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire D'Alesio
« Last post by YSUFANSINCE1990 on November 14, 2019, 02:37:26 PM »
 The program will not move forward until Pelini is gone.  Have you looked at the other teams rosters?  They are all young!   North Dakota State and Northern Iowa have the least amount of senior starters in the conference.  North Dakota State, UNI, and South Dakota State have stud redshirt freshman quarterbacks.

 Pelini's talent is below average, that is one him and his lack of recruiting players good enough to complete in this conference.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire D'Alesio
« Last post by goodnews on November 14, 2019, 11:51:20 AM »
Nothing against Waid but his other offer was Fordham.  If he becomes a productive QB time will tell.  I thk Pelini is full of s**t.  A few years ago was probably better based on stars as we got several high rated defensive guys from western PA and the kid from Minnesota.  Smoke n mirrors by Pelini.
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