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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: lakesbison on December 17, 2016, 10:37:41 PM
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i got some front rows
sect 109 row 1 6tickets at $150=each
sect 125 row 2 6 tickets $150/each
4 in row 5 $125/each
1 vip ticket sect 109 row 20
pm me. im sure i can find more for ya
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Once I get approved for JMU board, I will have 4 third row tickets I am putting on eBay starting bidding at one penny. I'll let market decide the price. I'll post a link when up. Sure it will be cheaper than your allotment and better seat.
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i got some front rows
4 in row 5
1 vip ticket
pm me. im sure i can find more for ya
I would be interested in your row 5 seats. What section are they in and what price? And are they on the home side, presuming sides are reserved for respective teams. Thanks.
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The university allotments will each be on respective sides of the field, so I suppose you could call one home based on uniforms (this was determined by coin flip prior to the semi-final games and is not based on any seeding formula). The rest of the tickets will be interspersed with fans from both teams this year (especially the ones sold early in the year).
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I have four hospitality passes (wristbands) for sale. Great meal, cash bar, warm setting. PM for details.
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I am out of wristbands.
Good luck to YSU. Keep the trophy in the MVFC.
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Heard JMU sold their allotted 4000 yesterday...looking for more. We need to get on this ticket situation soon. Place is under construction. Hopefully the university will come out with some info soon
GO GUINS!
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i added 6 more in row 1 for ya guys.
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I have 3 tickets sec 108 row 8 seats 4 5 6 want $135/ticket they are flashseats call or text me 701 848 6129 best of luck January 7
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Okay, here we go. 4 stellar seats for 1 penny. Not making this up. Get on them!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/272490335990?
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BTW, the smart fan will buy from NDSU fans for less than you will pay for your allotment. Plus, probably better seats.
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I have 8 hospitality wristbands available for YSU fans only. These are really cool and you get some features other fans don't.
I was given a wristband the first year I went to Frisco by a friend. I thought it was unnecessary until we got to the game. Early access to the game, free buffet in the River Club, cash bar, clean restrooms, snacks at halftime, drinks during breaks in the game (it is the only place you can have alcohol during the game), and for the times it has been cold or damp, it is a great place to warm up or even watch the game from. Also, there is a featured speaker before the game. I liked Tim Brown the best.
I didn't include seat tickets because there are so many options and some people want to pick and choose. Some people go for the cheaper SRO tickets, get the wristbands, and spend the whole game in the River Club. With the construction going on and the whole end zone seats unavailable, this is like getting the creature comforts of a suite at a fraction of the cost. They limit the amount of wristbands, so it won't ever get crazy packed in there. You can go in and out during the game, so how much you use it is up to you.
I will mail these out where they are tracked. I will sell these for face value at $110. I pay shipping. PM me with the quantity you want. I would prefer they are in even quantities so I am not left with one. We can do PayPal or if there is something else you feel comfortable with, we can talk about those details. I have them in hand, so as soon as payment has cleared, I send them out immediately. PM me and we can discuss details.
Edited: Changed quantity. Sold 6. Now at 8.
Absolutely true....They do NOT sell beer or alcohol in the stadium in the general admission area. You can fill up before the game in the tailgate area or get the hospitality wristband, but otherwise the stadium is dry.
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The university allotments will each be on respective sides of the field, so I suppose you could call one home based on uniforms (this was determined by coin flip prior to the semi-final games and is not based on any seeding formula). The rest of the tickets will be interspersed with fans from both teams this year (especially the ones sold early in the year).
Thanks for the info.
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Congratulations on your win! Love seeing a MVFC in the championship game.
I have 8 tickets with wristbands that I will sell below face value. Sect 108, Row 28, seats 1 - 8. pm me if you are interested.
Go 'Guins!
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I have four hospitality passes (wristbands) for sale. Great meal, cash bar, warm setting. PM for details.
All four passes (no tickets) for $300, paid $440. PM if interest
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4 great seats!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272490335990?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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Update: Tickets Sold
Congrats on the win Penguins! Keep that trophy in the MVFC.
I have four seats in Section 108, Row 27 Seats 9-12. If you're interested shoot me a PM.
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Is it true you guys only took 2 of your 5 allotted sections? JMU ticket office reporting that we have 3 sections on your side of the field in our allotment.
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Is it true you guys only took 2 of your 5 allotted sections? JMU ticket office reporting that we have 3 sections on your side of the field in our allotment.
Longtime reader, first time poster. Your school's ticket office is first class and ours is pathetic. 10 minutes after you guys beat NDSU you were sending and tweeting out info about tickets and even bundled travel packages. YSU doesn't say anything until late Monday PM, the occasional cricket tweet being sent out on Sunday. By then JMU had already blown through their allotment and was looking for more on the secondary market. Other than the few YSU fans who get tickets from the school in the 2 sections, the only other fans not getting screwed over are the ones who were smart enough to buy on the exchange earlier or directly from an NDSU fan. Thankfully JMU was tweeting out that they were the home team and what sections were theirs on Sunday so we knew where to look.
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May i ask why in the literal F**K would we ONLY take 2 of the 5 allotted sections? As a season ticket holder i have to wait until Thursday for everyone who DIDNT support the team all year(s) to buy tickets. WTF?!?! Gonna be real upset if i cant get 8 tix. Sorry...rant over!!!
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Our ticket office, marketing department, everything is an absolute joke. We got 1 little tweet sent out 2 days after our game was over. Ticket sales don't even go on sale for the general public until next week!!! A lot of us YSU fans are buying from NDSU fans and on flash seats. Our fans will be there.
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According to Craig Haley from Stats FCS, YSU and JMU both received 4,000 tickets but YSU returned 3,000 of them which then went to JMU.
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According to Craig Haley from Stats FCS, YSU and JMU both received 4,000 tickets but YSU returned 3,000 of them which then went to JMU.
In a cool calm way, I can only say: WTF is wrong with them????
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They shame many people into going to games and the one time where YSU can capitalize with the fan base at large they screw the pooch. Unbelievable. Can't wait to see all the propagandists handle this one. Don't you wait to gauge interest before deciding whether or not to return tickets?
FWIW, just look at all the packages and options JMU fans had merely minutes after the NDSU game. http://www.anthonytravel.com/jmu-fcs/
Go look at JMUtickets and JMUsports on twitter. They were helping the fans buy tickets right after they beat NDSU. YSU is treating this like the 80s if not earlier.
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we just got the tickets today?
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Where is Tressel on this issue? Everything is all lovie dovie since he came back as President, but not there is a real mess under his watch and he better get in there and fix things QUICKLY!
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The JMU ticket office sold out their ticket allotment in sections 100-107 and 128-133.
If you look at a stadium seating chart, I assume sections 128-133 were originally YSU's allotment and they returned them or just refused them. It doesn't make any sense what YSU has apparently done but the fact is JMU has sold out 14 sections and YSU has 2.
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The JMU ticket office sold out their ticket allotment in sections 100-107 and 128-133.
If you look at a stadium seating chart, I assume sections 128-133 were originally YSU's allotment and they returned them or just refused them. It doesn't any much sense but the fact is JMU has sold out 14 sections and YSU has 2.
That makes sense because the 2 remaining YSU sections are 126-127. We're going to be massively outnumbered not because there isn't fan interest, but because YSU chose to twiddle their thumbs all weekend and turn away tickets while JMU fans scooped them all up. I feel bad for the people who think they're going to get tickets from the school. Hurry up and get to the exchange because the prices are only going up.
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YSU sold out!! Unreal!! Bonehead Athletic Department!!
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YSU sold out!! Unreal!! Bonehead NCAA!!
It's not the NCAA that was boneheaded, it was our athletic department.
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Wow. How embarrassing. What a colossal F*** up. A sincere thanks to the a$$hole who is responsible for this.
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Still stuck in the 90's. That whole department needs a complete overhaul. Shame on them.
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I've read this board for a long time and enjoy it for the most part. But this ticket fiasco really infuriates me (enough to create an account).
We truly have a JV athletic department. I now live an hour away from JMU and they kicked our a$$ in how they marketed their tickets and organized travel. In my opinion, the biggest difference is that they expected to be in the championship while anyone at YSU outside of Bo, the coaching staff and players thought it was a pipe dream.
If the administration only accepted 1k of the offered 4k, shame on YSU. At the very worst, the athletic department would have been on the hook for $225,000 (3,000 at 75 per ticket), though we all know that would not have happened. Have some faith in the people of Youngstown and the alums. With Tressel at the helm, we could have done much better.
I'm not naïve and completely understand that the majority of athletic department across the country struggle to break even, but my God, we all know how long it has been since we have been in the playoffs. We have accepted being mediocre/below average at men's basketball, so let's try to do something positive with football.
We struck gold with Bo and I hope we can keep for a long time, though I have my doubts once the Nebraska money runs out. But I'll worry about that at a later time.
On a positive note, I already have my tickets and can't wait to get to Frisco! Hoping for a great turnout from fellow Penguins who have to purchase their tickets on Flash Seats. Go Guins!
End rant.
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Ron Potesta saying that "someone" from the university told him that WE only asked for 1000 tix. WHAT?!?!?! Would love to know the truth. Either way...its absurd and highly disappointing.
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Ron Potesta saying that "someone" from the university told him that WE only asked for 1000 tix. WHAT?!?!?! Would love to know the truth. Either way...its absurd and highly disappointing.
Ron Potesta's source is lying through his teeth, said we had to request the tickets by the end of the 2nd round. LOL. No f'ing way. 21 WFMJ is going to bring this up and it's not going to be pretty watching the university backtrack here.
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I am hearing all the above posts are accurate, unreal! Why would they send back tickets, not knowing how many of our fans want to attend the game?
It's like they don't want us there, keep it to only the cronies. Agree, on the overhaul of athletics.
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Why is anyone surprised by this? Did you think that incompetent people would finally take steps to service our fans? Think about this. This is ALL they had to do early last week. Just send an email to season ticket holders with this brief and to the point message:
"Hello, should our team win in Washington on Saturday, are you planning on attending the championship game in Texas? This is not a binding commitment but please respond. We need to know how many tickets to reserve for our fans. Thank you."
That's it. That is all these fools had to do to avoid this disaster. But they were not capable of such planning. They are that incompetent.
Tressel has done some great things for the university. He must....simply must....turn his attention to the dysfunctional athletic department and take out the garbage.
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Tressel has done some great things for the university. He must....simply must....turn his attention to the dysfunctional athletic department and take out the garbage.
One would think that a screw up of this magnitude would show how incompetent the athletic department is.
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Haven't been on here in a LONG time. For those of you who still plan on going, enjoy your 20% tax on the flash seats website. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from the YSU Athletic Department. I will SERIOUSLY contemplate canceling my already paid for plans for that weekend.
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Lol. I just called potesta and ranted. He AGREES with YSU only taking 1k tix. He says why would they get more when the playoffs couldnt draw a crowd. WHATEVER!!!!
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Seriously, NDSU fans and twitter were much more useful than our athletic department. Once JMU said their allotment was on the west side, we were fortunate to scoop some decent seats on the YSU side when they were still below face value...
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Seriously, NDSU fans and twitter were much more useful than our athletic department. Once JMU said their allotment was on the west side, we were fortunate to scoop some decent seats on the YSU side when they were still below face value...
OK, you know what side of the stadium is "yours," but quite frankly when push comes to shove, if tickets are available on the other side, buy them. We sat all over the stadium, sides didn't matter.
That said, somebody in your ticket office and sports information department needs to be held accountable. It doesn't help if school is on break, but its not like you haven't been there before (hey YSU, the 90's are calling and they want to give you your trophy back!)
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skiddish about taking the full allotment.
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This is pretty funny, or sad..
http://wkbn.com/2016/12/18/tickets-to-fcs-national-championship-game-quickly-running-out/
Trevor Parks from the YSU Athletic Department said after the Jacksonville State game, Youngstown State committed $75,000 to purchase 1,000 tickets.
The university was able to provide tickets to loge holders and others, but have since run out. YSU was hoping to have more tickets, but none were available. NB: what a lie!
“Despite not having any additional tickets available to provide to fans, we are optimistic that fans will be able to locate tickets in secondary markets. We are thrilled to have as much support in Frisco on January 7,” he said.
To me, the other part of the story that doesn't hold up is why were we not allowed to purchase those 3K seats after the EWU game. James Madison made it seem like we refused them, which makes sense.
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
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So instead oh let's just get 1k tickets and sell them all out and make it seem like we did all we could. Joke.
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They probably lost their asses on the bids in the playoff games because the pussified fair weather fans didn't show up to the games. Now they want to jump on the bandwagon.
Go watch your stupid ******* high school games. You uneducated uncle Rico idiots
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Honestly.....I agree. Can you blame them? We get 13k total for 2 home playoff games and now fans are coming out of the woodwork. Can't complain now when you won't show up and support the team in the castle.
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Honestly.....I agree. Can you blame them? We get 13k total for 2 home playoff games and now fans are coming out of the woodwork. Can't complain now when you won't show up and support the team in the castle.
Somewhat I agree. But at the same time, the only people who were able to buy tickets were the loge holders. Season ticket holders, students and the public were unable to buy from the YSU ticket office. It's a bad look.
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I called Ron Potesta also. TAKE CARE OF YOUR SEASON TICKET HOLDERS!!! COMPLETELY DISRESPECTED BY THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT. WHETHER WE SENT 3000 BACK OR ONLY BID ON 1000 - THEY DID NOT TAKE CARE OF THE SEASON TICKET HOLDERS! 1000 TICKETS GETS YOU ABOUT 400 AFTER TEAM, COACHES, DEPARTMENT DIBS, LOGES AND A FEW CHAMPION LEVEL PENGUIN CLUB MEMBERS!!! FORGOT ABOUT THE SMALL GUY AGAIN!! EVEN US PENGUIN CLUB MEMBERS COULD NOT GET TICKETS. JMU RAN CIRCLES AROUND THIS DEPARTMENT AND THEY WON! NEED TO PUT SOME CHLORINE IN THE GENE POOL THAT IS THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT. PATHETIC. PEOPLE NOW PAYING WAY OVER COST BECAUSE OF THESE FOOLS. MARKETING DEPARTMENT ALSO NEEDS CLEANED OUT. TOOK CARE OF THEIR BOYS AND BIG DONORS IN THE LOGES BUT SNUBBED THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE 1980'S WHEN THE TEAM STUNK. TOOK CARE OF THE FAIR WEATHER FANS AND BAND WAGON JUMPERS BUT FORGOT ABOUT THE ONES THAT SAT THROUGH THE CRAP YEARS AND END OF SEASON MELTDOWNS!! I WILL STILL GO AND CHEER ON THE TEAM BUT GIVE NO RESPECT TO THE CRONIES IN THE DEPARTMENT! THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TEAM - THIS TEAM HAS WON DESPITE THEM.
GO GUINS!
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They should be ashamed of themselves to only get 1,000 tickets for the national championship game. Pissed a lot of fans off in doing so.
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Our group is going to be spread all over the stadium now that we cannot get tickets together. What a joke. Been going to games together for years, cheering our asses off and this is what we get from the pathetic athletic department.
GO GUINS
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skiddish about taking the full allotment.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Read it uncle Rico's! Especially the ring leader that running Sports Wrap on 570 on Sunday. He is the leader of the Uncle Ricos and he thinks he's important because he does play by play for local high school football games. 200 fans to watch FCS championship level football, which is better than the Mac. 10,000 fans to watch horrid zero talent on the field, highschool football. I will sell you a time machine so you cam get back to 82. It costs $80k. Start selling the steak knives.
This is a microcosm of why Youngstown cannot get out of its own way and move forward.
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Honestly.....I agree. Can you blame them? We get 13k total for 2 home playoff games and now fans are coming out of the woodwork. Can't complain now when you won't show up and support the team in the castle.
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Best portrayed as Uncle Rico from the movie Napoleon Dynamite
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I called Ron Potesta also. TAKE CARE OF YOUR SEASON TICKET HOLDERS!!! COMPLETELY DISRESPECTED BY THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT. WHETHER WE SENT 3000 BACK OR ONLY BID ON 1000 - THEY DID NOT TAKE CARE OF THE SEASON TICKET HOLDERS! 1000 TICKETS GETS YOU ABOUT 400 AFTER TEAM, COACHES, DEPARTMENT DIBS, LOGES AND A FEW CHAMPION LEVEL PENGUIN CLUB MEMBERS!!! FORGOT ABOUT THE SMALL GUY AGAIN!! EVEN US PENGUIN CLUB MEMBERS COULD NOT GET TICKETS. JMU RAN CIRCLES AROUND THIS DEPARTMENT AND THEY WON! NEED TO PUT SOME CHLORINE IN THE GENE POOL THAT IS THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT. PATHETIC. PEOPLE NOW PAYING WAY OVER COST BECAUSE OF THESE FOOLS. MARKETING DEPARTMENT ALSO NEEDS CLEANED OUT. TOOK CARE OF THEIR BOYS AND BIG DONORS IN THE LOGES BUT SNUBBED THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE 1980'S WHEN THE TEAM STUNK. TOOK CARE OF THE FAIR WEATHER FANS AND BAND WAGON JUMPERS BUT FORGOT ABOUT THE ONES THAT SAT THROUGH THE CRAP YEARS AND END OF SEASON MELTDOWNS!! I WILL STILL GO AND CHEER ON THE TEAM BUT GIVE NO RESPECT TO THE CRONIES IN THE DEPARTMENT! THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TEAM - THIS TEAM HAS WON DESPITE THEM.
GO GUINS!
PREACH!!! Our family has had the same seats since stambaugh opened. How is it now that i am supposed to settle with whatever seats a bison fan has or the fact that they dont have 8 seats together. Doesnt do me or my my group much good. FU*K you very much Strollo.
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Anyone got 3 extra tickets on YSU side they are willing to sell at face value to a DISGRUNTLED football alumni who never got a chance to buy from his alma matter?
PM if so; I'd be appreciative.
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This is a complete debacle for the fans, especially the loyal fans. We need a better marketing department. We need people to attend the games. This is really sad. I know several people that cannot make the trip due to the cost of tickets and the cost of the flights now. The bigwigs got the cheap tickets and the cheap flights.
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This is a complete debacle for the fans, especially the loyal fans. We need a better marketing department. We need people to attend the games. This is really sad. I know several people that cannot make the trip due to the cost of tickets and the cost of the flights now. The bigwigs got the cheap tickets and the cheap flights.
I agree on the debacle, but how did the bigwigs get the cheap flights?
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The Vindy or Dana Balash should try and contact JMU's communications director as to when exactly those allotments were made. YSU is trying to feed a BS story that it was done several weeks ago. Sure doesn't sound like it here. JMU had a revealing presser today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4g0UfSO44E
Watch the video starting at 2:55 for all the important info.
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The essential feature of this debacle is the complete lack of markert research in the athletic department. Nobody would expect the university to purchase thousands of tickets that they could not resell. But these fools made NO EFFORT to determine the interest in this game. Do they even know that software programs could allow them to email all season ticket holders by pressing one stinkin' button? If they had tried to get feedback before the ticket deadline, whenever that was, they would have detected the intense interest in this game. But no. We will just guess a number. Make it very low; little work for us. Just make sure the fat cats in the loges are happy. Thumb our noses at the common season ticket holders. Collect our paychecks and laugh.
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This is a complete debacle for the fans, especially the loyal fans. We need a better marketing department. We need people to attend the games. This is really sad. I know several people that cannot make the trip due to the cost of tickets and the cost of the flights now. The bigwigs got the cheap tickets and the cheap flights.
I agree on the debacle, but how did the bigwigs get the cheap flights?
There were $200 round trip flights out of CAK and now there are none. We had all of the flight numbers written down but wanted to wait to have a ticket in hand before booking. We got the tickets secured by 6 pm yesterday after paying way too much for them, and went to book the flight. Nothing. They were full and they are all $400 at a minimam now. Why? Because they got their tickets and booked their flights. Meanwhile we were bidding on tickets and ended up just buying them outright so we could try to stay close to the YSU sections
We all know that the guy that is running the marketing department is missing a chromosome. Why does Strolls put up with that kind of mediocrity. He needs to have aggressive ticket sales targets made every year with a parallel measure of actual button in seats binding the higher ticket sales target.
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
Whoa there. This is true. They lost their ass on the playoff games because they have to bid on them and honor the bid. Tressel even donated $20k of his own money to buy tickets to the playoff games. The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games. It is not based on the people living in the city but more on the activities of people living in Boardman, Canfield, Poland as well as people in Warren area.and Liberty. They need to balance a budget, I get it. The people have not lived up to their end of the bargain and this is the result of that. In addition many of those people (who have jobs and are not retired) expect a free ticket. Why is that? They were conditioned like dogs from the days of the Youngstown Pride. They don't buy tickets, they look for hand outs. The next time someone asks you for a free ticket, call them a dog and show them to the ticket office (at least until attendance returns).
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Honestly.....I agree. Can you blame them? We get 13k total for 2 home playoff games and now fans are coming out of the woodwork. Can't complain now when you won't show up and support the team in the castle.
I am pissed at them I didn't get a ticket. I am more pissed at the freeloading fair weather fans that pit the university in this situation.
https://youtu.be/i5_T0azEpqM
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games.
I enjoy high school football and go to plenty of games and I can assure you attendance at local HS games is down as well. Furthermore, I struggle to believe ANY game this year had 10k. Old SVC games maybe had 7500 if they were lucky and those are the big time local schools. We have issues but from someone that lives here, I don't think that is the problem at all.
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nyone know of tickets other than through NCAA? Any NDSU fans left?
Led509
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games.
I enjoy high school football and go to plenty of games and I can assure you attendance at local HS games is down as well. Furthermore, I struggle to believe ANY game this year had 10k. Old SVC games maybe had 7500 if they were lucky and those are the big time local schools. We have issues but from someone that lives here, I don't think that is the problem at all.
1986 Mooney vs Boardman at YSU high noon. Not a seat to be had, people were sitting on the steps. 7pm the same day YSU was playing Cincinnati 3500 tops. Those days are LONG gone.
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My ebay auction for 4 great seats ends today at about noon:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272490335990?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Right now, bidding is at $56 for the 4 tickets. These are $70/each face value.
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games.
I enjoy high school football and go to plenty of games and I can assure you attendance at local HS games is down as well. Furthermore, I struggle to believe ANY game this year had 10k. Old SVC games maybe had 7500 if they were lucky and those are the big time local schools. We have issues but from someone that lives here, I don't think that is the problem at all.
1986 Mooney vs Boardman at YSU high noon. Not a seat to be had, people were sitting on the steps. 7pm the same day YSU was playing Cincinnati 3500 tops. Those days are LONG gone.
I meant OLD SVC RIVALS playing this year, my bad on not elaborating. Ursuline vs Boardman this year had maybe a few hundred folks. Ursuline Harding had a decent crowd but nothing like the days of early 2000s.
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games.
I enjoy high school football and go to plenty of games and I can assure you attendance at local HS games is down as well. Furthermore, I struggle to believe ANY game this year had 10k. Old SVC games maybe had 7500 if they were lucky and those are the big time local schools. We have issues but from someone that lives here, I don't think that is the problem at all.
Although I live out of town I have attended 20% of the games this year. If 20% of the fans attending high school game in the Youngstown area were to all go to a YSU game, the University wouldn't be forced to make harsh decisions. I called people up there and told them to go to the Wofford game. I told them the university needs the money and that they need to support that team.
The real issue for me is that the people take for granted how special the football program is here. They say as a matter of fact they know football, but they really don't. They watch high school football that may have one athlete that can start at YSU after his sophomore year. The rest of the players will never make a division 1 college football team. There are far more bad players on the field in a high school game. Hell, they probably don't cut anyone anymore. High school football is a joke.
Best part is that the comedian that runs the Sunday sports show on 570 interviews the high school coaches and basically treats YSU football as an afterthought. Most of the callers want to talk about JFK and something that goes on in Painesville. And then the there this other guy that calls in to hear himself on the radio. That is the damn problem right there. We should have a show with substance and dedicated to YSU. I didn't know about Podesta, but it sounds like he is doing that. Also, now fans won't go games if they feel it is too cold? Youngstown people are known for their toughness and grit. People have gotten soft but want to say that the area is tough....the data says otherwise for the majority. I wont attack those people that do go to the games.
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What a joke of a department. Sorry to all of you who got screwed.
Don't let it slide or things will never change
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games.
I enjoy high school football and go to plenty of games and I can assure you attendance at local HS games is down as well. Furthermore, I struggle to believe ANY game this year had 10k. Old SVC games maybe had 7500 if they were lucky and those are the big time local schools. We have issues but from someone that lives here, I don't think that is the problem at all.
Although I live out of town I have attended 20% of the games this year. If 20% of the fans attending high school game in the Youngstown area were to all go to a YSU game, the University wouldn't be forced to make harsh decisions. I called people up there and told them to go to the Wofford game. I told them the university needs the money and that they need to support that team.
The real issue for me is that the people take for granted how special the football program is here. They say as a matter of fact they know football, but they really don't. They watch high school football that may have one athlete that can start at YSU after his sophomore year. The rest of the players will never make a division 1 college football team. There are far more bad players on the field in a high school game. Hell, they probably don't cut anyone anymore. High school football is a joke.
Best part is that the comedian that runs the Sunday sports show on 570 interviews the high school coaches and basically treats YSU football as an afterthought. Most of the callers want to talk about JFK and something that goes on in Painesville. And then the there this other guy that calls in to hear himself on the radio. That is the damn problem right there. We should have a show with substance and dedicated to YSU. I didn't know about Podesta, but it sounds like he is doing that. Also, now fans won't go games if they feel it is too cold? Youngstown people are known for their toughness and grit. People have gotten soft but want to say that the area is tough....the data says otherwise for the majority. I wont attack those people that do go to the games.
Just because someone lives in the Youngstown area does not mean they have an attraction to YSU football. They may have gone to college somewhere else, or not gone at all. They do more than likely though have an attraction to their local high school football team in the town where they live and their children go to school. Saying that high school football is a joke is in fact a joke. High school football, although not like it used to be, will ALWAYS trump YSU football in the Youngstown area. If the Penguins continue to put out a good product, the people will return to the stands. Attendance will be up next year, they need to keep building on this. The athletic department major screwed up here on these tickets if they are hoping to keep that building thing going. Also, Bo is not Tress, he is not going to be as charismatic and out front like Coach Tressel did building the "State of Youngstown" Bo is a football coach, not a salesman.
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games.
I enjoy high school football and go to plenty of games and I can assure you attendance at local HS games is down as well. Furthermore, I struggle to believe ANY game this year had 10k. Old SVC games maybe had 7500 if they were lucky and those are the big time local schools. We have issues but from someone that lives here, I don't think that is the problem at all.
Although I live out of town I have attended 20% of the games this year. If 20% of the fans attending high school game in the Youngstown area were to all go to a YSU game, the University wouldn't be forced to make harsh decisions. I called people up there and told them to go to the Wofford game. I told them the university needs the money and that they need to support that team.
The real issue for me is that the people take for granted how special the football program is here. They say as a matter of fact they know football, but they really don't. They watch high school football that may have one athlete that can start at YSU after his sophomore year. The rest of the players will never make a division 1 college football team. There are far more bad players on the field in a high school game. Hell, they probably don't cut anyone anymore. High school football is a joke.
Best part is that the comedian that runs the Sunday sports show on 570 interviews the high school coaches and basically treats YSU football as an afterthought. Most of the callers want to talk about JFK and something that goes on in Painesville. And then the there this other guy that calls in to hear himself on the radio. That is the damn problem right there. We should have a show with substance and dedicated to YSU. I didn't know about Podesta, but it sounds like he is doing that. Also, now fans won't go games if they feel it is too cold? Youngstown people are known for their toughness and grit. People have gotten soft but want to say that the area is tough....the data says otherwise for the majority. I wont attack those people that do go to the games.
Just because someone lives in the Youngstown area does not mean they have an attraction to YSU football. They may have gone to college somewhere else, or not gone at all. They do more than likely though have an attraction to their local high school football team in the town where they live and their children go to school. Saying that high school football is a joke is in fact a joke. High school football, although not like it used to be, will ALWAYS trump YSU football in the Youngstown area. If the Penguins continue to put out a good product, the people will return to the stands. Attendance will be up next year, they need to keep building on this. The athletic department major screwed up here on these tickets if they are hoping to keep that building thing going. Also, Bo is not Tress, he is not going to be as charismatic and out front like Coach Tressel did building the "State of Youngstown" Bo is a football coach, not a salesman.
So basically you are saying that Youngstown is filled with Uncle Ricos as I stated. They care more about high school, are uneducated and don't think High school football is horrible. You are proving my point. Not many places can say they have a state university with a division 1 football program that has future pro athletes sprinkled in, which also has a fine engineering department and business school? And the fans wont come because the coach isn't charismatic? You are one of them or part of the problem. High school football sucks. There a few legitimate athletes. The quality is low. You are saying people put higher standards on YSU but prefer to watch a a level of football where 99% of the players are pathetic athletes.
I was dragged tons Mooney vs Ursuline game in 2008 (the last HS game I attended) and Mooney threw one pass the entire game because they were not capable of competing any. There were 10k + fans there. YSU had 5k fans the next day. I conspicuously asked people how they could enjoy this garbage. There were kids that would need a stool to open the refrigerator playing and people paid to watch it.
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It only shows 1 seat.
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My own observation...
Wolford alienated a lot of fans. He brought excitement at first and then continually failed to finish the seasons off, while being rude and ignorant. Fans seemed to give up on the hope that they would ever return to what they were in the 90's, which is obviously quite lofty.
I was around in the 90's and with Heacock and then Wolf... Heacock slowly lost fans but with Wolf it expedited the process, in my opinion. He recruited good talent, talked a big game, and failed. Then always put blame on others. Coaching makes a world of difference, and we're seeing it this year.
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"Coaching makes a world of difference, and we're seeing it this year."
There is absolutely no question about this statement! You know, Bo is kind of a jerk. I can understand how alumni and adminstrations can tire of him, but the SOB can coach. I am beginning to look at him the same way I'm looking at Trump. Kind of a jerk, but a also a winner and somebody that his assocaites really go to war for. Frankly it would be nice if both were more like Tressel. Someone you are proud of as a person and not just his accomplishments, but it is what it is and BP, JT and DJT are all winners in their own ways.
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We only asked for 1k because we lost 35k and 45k on the playoff games. They lost their shirt and with the poor turnout I think they were skidding about taking the full allotment.
Were they expecting 20k to be at the playoff games ? Are there even 20k people left living in the city limits ? Give me a break. Strollo and the whole athletic department are a joke. Have you heard a peep from them since saturdays game ? Besides a measly tweet and Facebook post ? The most important game in our football program since 1999. What a crock of sh*t.
The problem lies with the people of Youngstown. They routinely turn out 10k for high school football games but do not attend YSU games.
I enjoy high school football and go to plenty of games and I can assure you attendance at local HS games is down as well. Furthermore, I struggle to believe ANY game this year had 10k. Old SVC games maybe had 7500 if they were lucky and those are the big time local schools. We have issues but from someone that lives here, I don't think that is the problem at all.
I don't get how you only ordered 1k of your 4k allotment. JMU was only had 60% full in the playoffs. That happens in the playoffs. It appears we'll have at least 10k at Frisco. Our attendance won't be that much less (33% lees) than home playoff games. To reserve only 1k and give JMU 7k? That is beyond nuts. We've been outbid twice by much less supported programs over the last 12 years, so we've had our own frustrations, but only taking 1K of tickets probably takes the cake. ???
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nyone know of tickets other than through NCAA? Any NDSU fans left?
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I am thinking that most of us NDSU fans listed our tix on Flashseats. It is the place to go to purchase these tix IMHO. I already sold mine but I do have two wristbands yet for the River Club. This is a premium service that allows you early access to the stadium (1/2 hour) with food and beverage in an enclosed area above the stands on the west side. This is the only place inside the stadium to get an adult beverage. PM me if interested and do search for your game seats on Flashseats if you still don't have them.
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When looking at home playoff attendance, you have to consider several things. First, those games were not known until 6 days max ahead of time. That's not much time to alter plans, family commitments, work, etc. There's 3 weeks between the EWU game and the title game. Plenty of time for people to change work schedules and make plans. The weather was also atrocious for both of those games. 30 and windy/cold/rainy is pretty unlikely in Frisco. Plus, it's the championship. How do you engage non-diehard fans? Let them purchase tickets to this game. Not only does this turn away the lukewarm fans, it also pissed off a lot of people in the Penguin Club who couldn't get tickets. The JMU ticket office was working overtime all weekend from Friday night on with both travel/ticket arrangements and keeping people informed on social media. YSU did none of that. How did JMU magically end up with 3 thousand extra tickets? It was because they were actively soliciting fan interest and had people requesting tickets via a sort of lottery system. If YSU had been doing something like that they probably could have asked for those 3 thousand tickets. Shame on our grade school level athletic department. The kicker to all that is they were letting people know by Monday AM if they had gotten tickets. It was mostly their Penguin Club equivalent who had gotten tickets, and the entire group of Dukes Club members that got tickets received them. Those who ordered but didn't receive tickets then got on the secondary market a full day before anyone knew anything about what was going on here.
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I would agree. There was no planning ahead for this and the fans will literally pay the price, and the players may not have the support they deserve. In the end, the office probably knew (or should have known) the required policy for the title game of committing to purchase a set number of tickets, and they should have requested ticket reservations from fans long in advance.
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Last chance to buy 4 great tickets for over 50% off face value. My ebay auction ends in less than 2 hours. These are section 110, third row; probably better and cheaper than many allotment seats.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272490335990?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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I've had posts deleted and was threatened to be banned from this board for criticizing, amongst others, our AD. I've even called him a moRon.....*gasp*...*sound of pearl clutching*...... I didn't do it cuz it was amusing, or I was bored, but because his incompetence hurts the University. Going to the FCS championship is happening despite him. As long as he's there, expect to pay the price for his ineptitude....and due to a wholesale lack of accountability there....and a complicit and pathetic local cheerleader media...he's likely there until his retirement.
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They are discussing this on 570. At the end of the day the NCAA is the issue. YSU had to pre-buy the tickets (up to 4000 seats. YSU looked at actual butts in seats (because ticket sales are inflated by the corporate sponsors buying all the majority of tickets). Therefore YSU looked at actual attendance figures and had to remain conservative because if we lost in subsequent rounds we still had to pay for the tickets. The bottom line is that everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and the corporate sponsors had higher demand. Lesson is more people need to actually pay for their tickets and I suspect we they would have a higher se se of urgency to attend the games. When its free there is less fan commitment. Don't ever give your tickets out for free.
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That makes no sense at all... Why would we have to pay for 1000 tickets if we don't make it to the championship game? Does that mean the other 6 teams that were in the quarterfinals and put in their bid for tickets are paying for tickets? If that is the case then someone needs to investigate the NCAA because that is the biggest rip off I have ever heard of!
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That makes no sense at all... Why would we have to pay for 1000 tickets if we don't make it to the championship game? Does that mean the other 6 teams that were in the quarterfinals and put in their bid for tickets are paying for tickets? If that is the case then someone needs to investigate the NCAA because that is the biggest rip off I have ever heard of!
That's the one sticking point, and one where I think YSU isn't telling the truth. If you go on twitter and follow JMUtickets account, they said early sunday that they were through their allotment and that their sections were 100-107. Then on Monday evening they said they added 128-133. To me, that means the NCAA offered YSU (which refused) then came back to JMU and asked if they'd want them. By then JMU knew their demand and took them.
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Can't blame the NCAA if you didn't reach out to your boosters and alumni well in advance and take presales and/or reservations for tickets. That happens at the college level all the time. If they had done that, they would have had a good idea of how many tickets were needed by Sunday morning.
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I've had posts deleted and was threatened to be banned from this board for criticizing, amongst others, our AD. I've even called him a moRon.....*gasp*...*sound of pearl clutching*...... I didn't do it cuz it was amusing, or I was bored, but because his incompetence hurts the University. Going to the FCS championship is happening despite him. As long as he's there, expect to pay the price for his ineptitude....and due to a wholesale lack of accountability there....and a complicit and pathetic local cheerleader media...he's likely there until his retirement.
So the man is moron because he did not purchase 4k tickets to a game that the odds of us getting there are about 4.1%; that is assuming everyone playing on the same neutral site (same environmental conditions, fan-size, band volume, etc. are all equal throughout the entire tournament and there was no seeding. I would need to pull out my Stats-III book to try and calculate the odds of an unseeded team with some games at home and others on opposing teams turf. I would bet it would not even come microscopically-close to 1%. We were outbid by Richmond in the previous round. That is where I would have rather seen the $$ go ..at least the odds are much improved. Sounds like a incredibly wise business decision to me.
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There are a bunch of tickets on all the ticket sites. If you want to go you can buy one. The place holds around 20k
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It still makes no sense and we can't be getting the right story... So the other 6 teams (NDSU, Wofford, Eastern Washington, SHSU etc) all guaranteed and paid for up to 4K tickets for each school? Let's say those 6 teams committed to selling 2k tickets. That's 12,000 tickets at $75 each which comes to $900,000!! What in the hell is the NCAA doing with that money? This is a low estimate because I would assume most schools would commit to the 4K tickets. I just don't believe that the other schools that are not in the championship game are having to pay for the tickets. I call BS on this one!
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I suspect if you don't make the championship no money is exchanged. I'm sure its BAD verbiage in the release. If both qualifying schools are entitled to 4k a piece that leaves 12k tickets for the NCAA to distribute. I'm sure the public could've purchased tickets throughout 2016 for the championship through their exchange. I would guess that's why NDSU fans are selling online because they assumed they would qualify and purchased earlier this year. I doubt the NCAA waits until 3 weeks before the game to put tickets on sale.
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I've had posts deleted and was threatened to be banned from this board for criticizing, amongst others, our AD. I've even called him a moRon.....*gasp*...*sound of pearl clutching*...... I didn't do it cuz it was amusing, or I was bored, but because his incompetence hurts the University. Going to the FCS championship is happening despite him. As long as he's there, expect to pay the price for his ineptitude....and due to a wholesale lack of accountability there....and a complicit and pathetic local cheerleader media...he's likely there until his retirement.
So the man is moron because he did not purchase 4k tickets to a game that the odds of us getting there are about 4.1%; that is assuming everyone playing on the same neutral site (same environmental conditions, fan-size, band volume, etc. are all equal throughout the entire tournament and there was no seeding. I would need to pull out my Stats-III book to try and calculate the odds of an unseeded team with some games at home and others on opposing teams turf. I would bet it would not even come microscopically-close to 1%. We were outbid by Richmond in the previous round. That is where I would have rather seen the $$ go ..at least the odds are much improved. Sounds like a incredibly wise business decision to me.
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Do you see the irony of the YSU Athletic Department pleading with fans all season to go to games, and then when it's YSU $$ on the line, they balk? Even noting that team performance was related to attendance?
In most recent years, the attendance for the FCS title game is >20k. How about when YSU was in it?
'99 20.052
'97 14,771
'94 27,674
'93 29,218
'92 31,304
'91 12,667
You don't think we'd sell 4k?
The 4k seats would all be together, with YSU fans sitting together with a likely multiplier effect in terms of cheering, overall experience, and enthusiasm. On TV, it provides great optics with a sea of red and white.
If purchased separately, the YSU fans will be scattered with the opposite effect.
The 4k would've been repayed with fans purchasing seats, but if you don't have the $$ to commit to be successful, then you don't belong in that division. There is always some risk with investment. This would've been a relatively safe investment.
All of that being said, if the bid was kept by the NCAA even if YSU never made the title game, my bid would have been zero....instead I would've sent them a note to bite me.....but I don't think that's the case.
So the man is moron...to me.
Well said.
Nice but Watch you whom you are quoting I did not say that.
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Here is how it works. 8k seats are held back for the allotments to the schools. The remainder were open up to the public back around August 25th. They sold out in a day. Mostly to Bison fans because they have been buying early since the second year of their run. For 2013-2015, they even sold 3 year packs. This year was less tickets because the end zone section is under construction.
I think it is on the Sunday or Monday conference call after the semis the AD has to indicate if the band is coming and how much of the allotment they want of the 4k. They probably should move that call to Tuesday and let the schools presell the allotment. The school could have opened up the online sales, pre-sold tickets, and if they went over 4k, base it on priority points and then request order. It isn't like this is rocket science. Refund those who didn't qualify. It isn't like schools haven't set a precedent with this since the last time YSU has gone to a championship game. NDSU learned after the first year and a lot of mistakes how to sell the allotment after the semis through Sunday then be in a position to know exactly how much to request during the NCAA call. Of course it has been all of them, but we are a little stir crazy to get out of Fargo for a few days come January. The bottom line is I am sure if YSU didn't have a plan, they could have reached out to a fellow Valley school for their plan and work from it.
I will keep buying tickets in August each year because I have yet to lose money. They did start out $35-$45 6 years ago and now up to $65-$75, but it isn't a very large stadium. I do have a few hospitality wristbands that one can couple with the cheapest seats they can find out there for a fun experience. I keep the post on the first page of this thread updated with how many I have left. I have found those to be well worth it, especially when it hasn't been such kind weather. 11 AM is still a little cool, even on the warmer days in a Texas winter.
Good luck YSU!! I hope the Championship stays in the MVFC.
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Here is how it works. 8k seats are held back for the allotments to the schools. The remainder were open up to the public back around August 25th. They sold out in a day. Mostly to Bison fans because they have been buying early since the second year of their run. For 2013-2015, they even sold 3 year packs. This year was less tickets because the end zone section is under construction.
I think it is on the Sunday or Monday conference call after the semis the AD has to indicate if the band is coming and how much of the allotment they want of the 4k. They probably should move that call to Tuesday and let the schools presell the allotment. The school could have opened up the online sales, pre-sold tickets, and if they went over 4k, base it on priority points and then request order. It isn't like this is rocket science. Refund those who didn't qualify. It isn't like schools haven't set a precedent with this since the last time YSU has gone to a championship game. NDSU learned after the first year and a lot of mistakes how to sell the allotment after the semis through Sunday then be in a position to know exactly how much to request during the NCAA call. Of course it has been all of them, but we are a little stir crazy to get out of Fargo for a few days come January. The bottom line is I am sure if YSU didn't have a plan, they could have reached out to a fellow Valley school for their plan and work from it.
I think you hit the nail on the head. YSU wasn't doing any of these things. James Madison had an online application system which in addition to selling tickets also gauged demand. They were doing that all weekend. YSU should have had a system up and running Saturday at 10PM much like JMU did on Friday at 10PM. If requests were going through the roof for YSU, they could have asked the NCAA for those 3K tickets.
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I don't understand the YSU logic here. You are only on the hook for those tickets if you make the final. You're really that out of touch with the demand from your fanbase that you misfire by 3k tickets? Look, most schools have an expectation that the home playoff games may be less attended due to short planning time and the weather (not to mention the Friday night game). But you've GOT to know that with 3 weeks to plan a trip plus the allure of going for a 'ship that you're going to have demand to meet 4k tickets. Although, judging from how YSU's ticketing operation seems to be stuck in 1998, it's quite possible they were concerned they couldn't physically process the 4k allotment.
From the JMU board...they get it we don't
GO GUINS!
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Here is how it works. 8k seats are held back for the allotments to the schools. The remainder were open up to the public back around August 25th. They sold out in a day. Mostly to Bison fans because they have been buying early since the second year of their run. For 2013-2015, they even sold 3 year packs. This year was less tickets because the end zone section is under construction.
I think it is on the Sunday or Monday conference call after the semis the AD has to indicate if the band is coming and how much of the allotment they want of the 4k. They probably should move that call to Tuesday and let the schools presell the allotment. The school could have opened up the online sales, pre-sold tickets, and if they went over 4k, base it on priority points and then request order. It isn't like this is rocket science. Refund those who didn't qualify. It isn't like schools haven't set a precedent with this since the last time YSU has gone to a championship game. NDSU learned after the first year and a lot of mistakes how to sell the allotment after the semis through Sunday then be in a position to know exactly how much to request during the NCAA call. Of course it has been all of them, but we are a little stir crazy to get out of Fargo for a few days come January. The bottom line is I am sure if YSU didn't have a plan, they could have reached out to a fellow Valley school for their plan and work from it.
I think you hit the nail on the head. YSU wasn't doing any of these things. James Madison had an online application system which in addition to selling tickets also gauged demand. They were doing that all weekend. YSU should have had a system up and running Saturday at 10PM much like JMU did on Friday at 10PM. If requests were going through the roof for YSU, they could have asked the NCAA for those 3K tickets.
Exactly!! Great point!!
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"You don't think we'd sell 4k?"
No. Never in a million years. let alone less than a week before Christmas. Even less of those people would have thought we would be this far. Even bigger "laugher" ...on-line web site to sell tickets? Did not realize we had become such a culturally and technologically advanced East Coast city. Come on ...most of our parents pounded steel, turned bolts on a GM wheel assembly, or put solder and electrical tape on a GM wiring harness to raise us ...and did damn good job at making more money that a typical YSU or JMU grad. Ever been to a YSU game and seen our fan base? What maybe 5 people would hit it? Biggest laugh of them all, that more than 25% of the JMU fans that supposedly bought tickets will actually be there.
To further support my theory ...did you go to the YSU v WVU game? Maybe surpassed only slightly the first OSU vs. YSU game. as most YSU fans in attendance (like myself) live in Columbus. No way there was more than 1k in attendance at agame that sold for $65 a ticket and is a 3-hour drive away in summer weather. Let me tell you that far more people want to see the Buckeyes than James Madison. BTW I have been to every national championship game prior to this one.
Here is a hint, call anyone of the less than 1k fans of NDSU that presold. Lots of tickets available. Always the same trio of idiots in here insulting everything we do. If all else fails ...show up there will be plenty of seats. You want to know how to do it? Try adding a quality package to your season ticket holders with a $40 reserve. It is this reserve that you use for your allotment figure (yes it may be closer to 2k at that point because it is summer). If you are even smarter, you ask them to allow the University to keep the $40 (and match it should the team not make the final) as a donation as your final tax break prior to the new year. It is perfectly legal. THAT is how a major university thinks!!!
Then when you are done with all of that, you ask the NCAA why we are on ESPN2 when the DII and DIII championship games got ESPN. Then ask them why Frisco Texas at a stadium sponsored by some teir-II or III Pizza Hut agency puts a placard on?
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Sorry but I don't buy that, I-AA. But guess we'll never know since our athletic department is beyond pathetic.
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We are what we are Chief .. get over it or follow another team. Let me add to it:
This board gets over 5k unique visitors a year, Half of those are SPAM. of that 5k, maybe 1k are opposing fans. However there are not more than 500 people who actually post something. Two reasons:
1. They do not know how and too scared to try.
2. Many of them see people like you that trash-talk their own team because somehow you think that you are better than others. YSU knows their market much better than you do.
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I've achieved the trifecta. You've threatened to ban me, deleted some posts, and now edited one of my posts.
Anyway, back to the tickets, we have 60% of the enrollment of JMU. Our average home attendance (13,506*) is 68.2% of JMU's average home attendance.
So JMU can guarantee 7k seats, but we can't guarantee 4k (less than 60% of the JMU total)?
How can you not at least admit the Athletic Department screwed up? They've basically created a home field type atmosphere for the opponent. Because of the actions of the Athletic Department, there is a 1:7 ratio of guaranteed seats in the opponents favor. Obviously since all of the seats were sold out within hours on Tuesday, and only to loge holders and PC Champions, a massive miscalculation was made. Season ticket holders and lower level PC members never even had a shot at tickets in the YSU section through YSU.
This degree of error is a symptom of a larger problem. Blunders like this are a sign of systemic ineptitude in an organization.
*Based on magical math
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"You don't think we'd sell 4k?"
No. Never in a million years. let alone less than a week before Christmas. Even less of those people would have thought we would be this far. Even bigger "laugher" ...on-line web site to sell tickets? Did not realize we had become such a culturally and technologically advanced East Coast city. Come on ...most of our parents pounded steel, turned bolts on a GM wheel assembly, or put solder and electrical tape on a GM wiring harness to raise us ...and did damn good job at making more money that a typical YSU or JMU grad. Ever been to a YSU game and seen our fan base? What maybe 5 people would hit it? Biggest laugh of them all, that more than 25% of the JMU fans that supposedly bought tickets will actually be there.
Let To further support my theory ...did you go to the YSU v WVU game? Maybe surpassed only slightly the first OSU vs. YSU game. as most YSU fans in attendance (like myself) live in Columbus. No way there was more than 1k in attendance at agame that sold for $65 a ticket and is a 3-hour drive away in summer weather.me tell you that far more people want to see the Buckeyes than James Madison. BTW I have been to every national championship game prior to this one.
Here is a hint, call anyone of the less than 1k fans of NDSU that presold. Lots of tickets available. Always the same trio of idiots in here insulting everything we do. If all else fails ...show up there will be plenty of seats. You want to know how to do it? Try adding a quality package to your season ticket holders with a $40 reserve. It is this reserve that you use for your allotment figure (yes it may be closer to 2k at that point because it is summer). If you are even smarter, you ask them to allow the University to keep the $40 (and match it should the team not make the final) as a donation as your final tax break prior to the new year. It is perfectly legal. THAT is how a major university thinks!!!
Then when you are done with all of that, you ask the NCAA why we are on ESPN2 when the DII and DIII championship games got ESPN. Then ask them why Frisco Texas at a stadium sponsored by some teir-II or III Pizza Hut agency puts a placard on?
Totally disagree with you. I don't think you understand the interest for a national championship.
JMU had 500 fans at NDSU last week. At UNC (about 3-4 hours away) we had about 1,500 fans earlier in the season. We will have over 10,000 fans at the NC.
For the 2004 Championship run we had 3 times the fans at Chattanooga than the combined three road games to get there.
Plus the way it's set up now, you have 3 weeks to set up plans/travel after purchasing tickets.
I'm sure the situation will deter a lot of fans that would of come if seats were available from the school and they could of guaranteed sitting within an YSU section. I would of gotten this is we were talking about a school like Wofford, but YSU?????
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I've achieved the trifecta. You've threatened to ban me, deleted some posts, and now edited one of my posts.
Anyway, back to the tickets, we have 60% of the enrollment of JMU. Our average home attendance (13,506*) is 68.2% of JMU's average home attendance.
So JMU can guarantee 7k seats, but we can't guarantee 4k (less than 60% of the JMU total)?
How can you not at least admit the Athletic Department screwed up? They've basically created a home field type atmosphere for the opponent. Because of the actions of the Athletic Department, there is a 1:7 ratio of guaranteed seats in the opponents favor. Obviously since all of the seats were sold out within hours on Tuesday, and only to loge holders and PC Champions, a massive miscalculation was made. Season ticket holders and lower level PC members never even had a shot at tickets in the YSU section through YSU.
This degree of error is a symptom of a larger problem. Blunders like this are a sign of systemic ineptitude in an organization.
*Based on magical math
You quoted me with something that I did not say. Going to get an "edit" every time. Just as you edited my quote. ;)
Besides, here you are again ruining every thread with your anti-YSU crap. Obviously they miscalculated but your insistence that this is some sort of epidemic is simply more of your anti-YSU dribble.
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We are what we are Chief .. get over it or follow another team. Let me add to it:
This board gets over 5k unique visitors a year, Half of those are SPAM. of that 5k, maybe 1k are opposing fans. However there are not more than 500 people who actually post something. Two reasons:
1. They do not know how and too scared to try.
2. Many of them see people like you that trash-talk their own team because somehow you think that you are better than others. YSU knows their market much better than you do.
Laughable.
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Let's get this thread back where it belongs, so the Penguin faithful can get seats. I have now been on the phone twice with the the NCAA and the park. There are a TREMENDOUS number of tickets still available. Almost all seats are selling for less than the suggest bid range of $80 to $120. Some sold for as little at $10. I am told that tailgating will be very limited, so there are no pre-sales. These are a flat $20 per spot. No size restrictions, but they do ask that RV's pay the amount that they use. However game parking can be purchase in advance for $10.
Toyota Stadium has asked that we tell fans that renovations to the stadium have eliminated end-zone seating for this year's game. One end zone has a new stage and the other is still under construction.
https://www.ticketliquidator.com near Columbus has purchased 300 tickets. He says most are still available ranging from $65 to $300. He does have NCAA experience tickets.
NCAA outlet is still your best source:
https://fcs.flashseats.com/default.aspx?pid=18&ec=9000000000016140&ss=47#
I would like to see other fans on this board keep this thread open and list locations that they find with tickets.
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Hello Penguins .. as you can tell from my user name, I am an ISU Redbird fan.
First of all, congrats on your season and impressive playoff run. YSU has been on the brink several years in a row. I am big time MVFC advocate and felt you deserved a couple bids in recent years .. particularly in 2012 and 2013.
Whatever happens, enjoy the experience despite some of the hurdles along the way. I speak from experience.
ISU nearly had similar experience in our run to 2014 championship, when our sports admin was not prepared for the whole ticket buying aspect. Word got out quick we weren't screening who was buying tickets and Bison pounced. OUr fan board went nuts and our Sports Admin folks quickly recovered, and eventually set up priority reservation system. In the end, we used our entire allotment and then some. In 2014, we only got 2,800, plus 500 seats in corner studet sections, plus our band in the end zone. But it was initially a fiasco and our fans went nuts similar to your fans .. and rightly so.
We've had internal debates about this very thing where some fans were irate, some said it was no big deal. Issue is simple .. if Bison had won their semi, they woudl not only have bough their 4,000 and your 3,000, but also the remaining 13,000. Then you would have had to buy scattered seats from whatever Bison fans didn't need all their tickets .. and your fans would have been few and far between. My view is, fans want to sit together. And you want the full opportunity to use your entire allotment, then fight for wnatever else comes availble .. like we ultimately did after a very flawed start. Bottom line, you want your seats and you want to sit together if possible. Your admin failed you. You guys dominated the 1990's and there is a fan base out there that needs a little mojo .. like a championship run.
As for your Sports Admin saying they didn't want to lose money again .. might be fair concern, except iyou guys have history in championship of helping draw 20k to 30kk in he 1990's. Some of you admin and fans argue, money eas lost on playoff game bids and fan turnout was not good .. so Frisco turnout will not be good.
ISU does not have your history but we knew we would use our allotment. So we shut down Bison trying to buy our tickets .. some threatened to sue us .. and had priority system set up to ensure all Redbird fans got tickets from allotment. We also had fans sprinlkled throughour res of stadum .. I'd say we had close to 4k .. our 3,300 in allotted seats, plus 700 scatter through the 18,000 Bison fans.
My point about our Frisco attendance is this .. we hosted 1st round of playoff. We were MVFC co-champs, 5th seeds, playing big rival UNI .. know what we dreew for that BIG game 5,650 .. and not sure all 5,650 showed up. We also know at leat 700 were UNI. So we had less than 5k at our 1st round home playoff game. Yet somehow managed to get 4k all the way to Frisco for championship .. made Redbird Nation proud and inspired our base. Cool part aside from seeing the turnout in Frisco and hearing how loud we were compared to 18,000 Bison fans .. was watching the team do the walk from the bus to stadium .. team was stunned to see 4k aftr the weak UNI playoff turnout. Spack was fighting back tears in his walk from bus.
The good news for Penguin fans wanting tickets is Bison lost, so a lot of tickets will free up eventually. Problem is, you wont; have all your seats together. It is what it si .. ticket prices will evetually come down. JMU will have good turnout, but I doubt they will be anywhere near Bison 18k. Be a little patient on various ticket buyig sites like NCAA, STubhub, Ebay .. watch the ticket counts and prices every day to monitor acitivity. If you want a good seat, you will have to pay more and buy sooner. If you don;t care how good the seat is .. wait until couple days before .. prices will come down, and tickets should be available with Bison not playing this game.
Again, congrats and enjoy the experience .. we had a blast and nearly brought the trophy home. MOst of Redbird Nation is rooting for YSU Penguins .. way to rep the Valley !!!!!!!
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A couple things of note regarding Frisco...tailgate parking does have a cost but plain car parking is free all around the stadium (including a covered municipal garage 2 blocks away). Unless you are completely set on sitting on or around your own car, it is just as simple to wander the tailgate lots and talk to folks (beverage in hand if you wish). The team walks into the stadium from the buses from the west side of the stadium should not be missed. The NCAA also has a fan area set up near the stadium (west side typically) with some games and stuff (not as fun as wandering the tailgate areas, IMHO).
Most of all, enjoy the experience. Don't get too hung up on where you sit as much as actually getting into the game. The game experience is only as good as the you and people around you.
(PS, I have a couple of wristband tickets for the River Club available for a reasonable price of $75 plus trackable shipping costs. If interested, PM me. )
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Does anyone have any tickets left? I am looking for three.
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I am looking for three tickets also. Would like to sit with some fellow penguin fans!
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I know someone looking for 3 as well, any info I'd be happy to pass along.
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still plenty of seats available on line.
https://fcs.flashseats.com/default.aspx?pid=18&ec=9000000000016140&ss=47#
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BTW, I have watched tickets for this game for the past 5 years. At some point this market will fall off. Make your plans to get down there and where to stay. There will be plenty of tickets closer to the game for reasonable prices. Also, they usually release standing room only tickets usually between now and the first of the year. There's a ton of space to stand and get a very good view of the game if you don't mind standing.
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Good point Bison. I might also add that the stadium only has 7,600 seats on each side. The end-zones are closed for the game. So it is not as if any seat is "bad".
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Penguin fan unable to use 2 hospitality wristbands that gain admission to the River Club which opens a half hour before the rest of the stadium. Free local pickup in Youngstown area or will ship. Can sell for $175 (face value $220 for the pair). Will negotiate.
Amenities include pregame meal, snacks at halftime, cash-bar, private restrooms. Can remain in area during game or go out to seats and come and go as you wish. Perfect for any potential inclement weather.
PM if interested.
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YSU Fans
I also have two Hospitality Wristbands that I will not be using since your upcoming foe eliminated my team. I have them up for auction on ebay at this URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252695592854?ul_noapp=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/252695592854?ul_noapp=true)
Note that you will need tickets to gain access to the stadium in addition to these wristbands. A portion of my sale will benefit the American Cancer Society.
Enjoy your time in Frisco and best of luck in the Championship.
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For those of you that do not know how, simply click on someones name to send them a PM. Menu on the left side.
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This is link provided previously .. I had guessed maybe 15-16k adjusted capacity. But it did mention estimated capacity due to end zone reconstruction. Normally about 21k, will be just 18k for FCS championship. Good news for YSU fans, since estimates for JMU are currently around 10k .. don't be surprised if that number goes up.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/dec/21/ysu-sells-out-tickets-championship-game/?mobile
Wesley Lucas, communications manager for the Frisco Convention and Visitors Bureau, said capacity has changed over the past weeks due to construction, but on Jan. 7 Toyota Stadium should seat “about 18,000.”
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Youngstowner here. Bought 3 tickets to game off Flashseats at $100 a ticket Section 123. PM me if interested in buying them at $100 per ticket. Must take all 3 so $300 total. Thanks
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Just an FYI, seems as though several Husker fans in Texas are rounding up tickets to go. Don't be surprised to see Husker gear in the stadium.
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Reminder YSU fans - just over two days left to pick up two hospitality wristbands for the Natty in Frisco. Currently only one bid at less than one half of face value. There is no reserve - these wristbands will sell. It is very nice to be able to get inside and warm up if the weather turns cold, or wet, or both.
YSU Fans
I also have two Hospitality Wristbands that I will not be using since your upcoming foe eliminated my team. I have them up for auction on ebay at this URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252695592854?ul_noapp=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/252695592854?ul_noapp=true)
Note that you will need tickets to gain access to the stadium in addition to these wristbands. A portion of my sale will benefit the American Cancer Society.
Enjoy your time in Frisco and best of luck in the Championship.