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Title: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 09, 2015, 01:52:10 PM
Anybody been down to see practice at all? I've been hearing some good things about the defense. Definitely different then when Wolf was here. Whole mentality of football practice has changed.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Penguin Nation on August 09, 2015, 02:08:21 PM
I've not been there, but there is a very encouraging article about the progress of the defense and the different philosophy of BP.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/aug/09/football-ysu-defense-poised-to-show-off-/
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 10, 2015, 12:16:48 AM
I am slightly concerned by the comment in there by coach Carmen to Shane to "Just run the ball Shane. We can't pass block". Hope our line can actually pass block, and that our defense is just that overwhelming plus there are still olinemen out?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: penguinpower on August 10, 2015, 06:49:38 AM
I am slightly concerned by the comment in there by coach Carmen to Shane to "Just run the ball Shane. We can't pass block". Hope our line can actually pass block, and that our defense is just that overwhelming plus there are still olinemen out?

Sounds like Carmen was motivating the OL.  Nothing more.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 10, 2015, 10:25:12 AM
Yeah don't be concerned about that comment. We have 4 starters back on the O-Line... I think our D-Line will be the most disruptive in the conference. Stacked with talent.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Wick250 on August 10, 2015, 01:00:16 PM
So far, so good.  Really like the introduction of modern training methods like no two-a-days and stretching AFTER practice (for over a decade astute trainers knew this worked best to prevent injuries.)  Also like the standard that a player is expected to absorb quickly what he has been taught.  Perhaps we will no longer see breakdowns in assignments and coverage in November.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: go guins on August 10, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
So far, so good.  Really like the introduction of modern training methods like no two-a-days and stretching AFTER practice (for over a decade astute trainers knew this worked best to prevent injuries.)  Also like the standard that a player is expected to absorb quickly what he has been taught.  Perhaps we will no longer see breakdowns in assignments and coverage in November.
Realistically, fewer breakdowns in assignments and coverage.  They are still kids! 
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 11, 2015, 10:20:57 AM
Looks like they're not being babied out there in practice. Time to man up and play.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 11, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
Interested to see who the #2 WR will be on the outside with Williams with Stubbs in the slot. Harvin has the inside track but I'm really interested to see if one of the freshman (Scott, Swanson, Braswell) can take a spot.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSU_Penguins17 on August 11, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
I was down at practice yesterday and I've noticed a huge difference already between the Wolford regime and the current one. Pelini and staff are teachers with minimal yelling and screaming. To be honest, Pelini doesn't even wear/use a whistle at practice and just kind of observes. As for the players, our defensive line is deep, quick and explosive. I like the potential of Isaiah Scott at receiver as well as Harvin.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 11, 2015, 10:07:43 PM
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: mvfc penguin on August 11, 2015, 10:39:42 PM
Special Teams is in for a rude awakening this year...
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: JustGuinBaby on August 12, 2015, 02:21:53 AM
Yes, the kicking game is way below average.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 12, 2015, 07:18:57 AM
Thats really unfortunate. Is the kicking the only thing wrong with the special teams though? And how bad of kicking are we talking?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates--Kicking Woes
Post by: JustGuinBaby on August 12, 2015, 08:02:54 AM
How bad is the kicking, you ask? Both McFadden and Kennedy have been routinely missing from inside 40 yards, and missing badly, and this is practice, imagine when it really counts.  The punting has been below average also. This could get UGLY....
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 12, 2015, 11:15:20 AM
I was hoping we could bring in a JUCO kicker, but that is unfortunate. Better get it together.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 12, 2015, 11:22:48 AM
Some strong quotes from some of the players here.... Yikes.




http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/aug/12/pelinis-approach-has-been-different/?newswatch
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysuguins4 on August 12, 2015, 12:29:05 PM
With the Guins being a deeper team this fall, I believe the return and coverage units will be fine.  If the kickers continue to struggle, Coach P might have to start watching soccer practice.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Double ET on August 12, 2015, 01:23:32 PM
With the Guins being a deeper team this fall, I believe the return and coverage units will be fine.  If the kickers continue to struggle, Coach P might have to start watching soccer practice.

LOL. That would really depress coach P, since in soccer, they learn to kick the ball under the cross bar.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: IAA Fan on August 12, 2015, 01:47:07 PM
Some strong quotes from some of the players here.... Yikes.




http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/aug/12/pelinis-approach-has-been-different/?newswatch


Why "Yikes"? What are your thoughts 05?

I will be at practice this weekend and going to the scrimmage. I take vacation beginning the 21st, so I will get more then.

One issue that I always had with Wolf, was that it seemed as though players were expected to know much more than they actually did ...which would be why late season losses took place. Our opponents changed up because they knew what we did. Then too much position changing on our end led to disgruntled players as Wolf began to rotate around trying to find a 1-week fix.  Players might have felt that they were not shown what they needed to know and removing them was unfair. Coach H, was just the opposite. The more things did not go our way, the more he entrenched his team (and unfortunately at times ...his staff).

With the addition of coach Carl, the promotion of Stoops and the retention of coach Carm ...I really feel the players are going to get more individual attention. As fans, we need to really step-up for the team this year. I expect to see a much more centralized unit this year. Players looking out for each other and perhaps we may not have players used to taking on leadership roles until next season ...hard to say.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 12, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
Yikes as in I'm glad the culture has been changed. Like you said, Wolf expected his players just to know how to do certain things and expected that. Pelini's staff seems way more hands on and actually teachers. Also, not as much screaming and yelling in practice. The one quote from Harvin struck me.

“It’s way more fun,” sophomore wide receiver I’tavious Harvin said. “Last year was all business but this year it’s business and you’re having fun at the same time. You’re doing something you actually love again.”

After all, this is still a game. I supported Wolf, but I think Pelini brings a whole different culture, which is good.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: go guins on August 12, 2015, 04:49:32 PM
If kids don't have fun they will lose interest.  Having fun doesn't mean you don't work hard, but you have to make it interesting and fun.  Look at the Browns and the competition to see who gets to wear the camo jerseys, and these are grown men (well, some are)
Pelini is much different than I expected and I am pleasantly surprised.  I thought he was a yeller too, like Wolford, but apparently not.  (I don’t care if he yells at the refs on game day) but you gotta treat the players right if you want them to go the extra mile for you.   Hope he has enough talent to compete.  We read lots of good stuff, but we haven’t seen any of the new guys tackle, or cover anybody.  (not that we saw anybody cover a receiver last year either!)  Could be good, and really looking forward to it.
1-AA, looking forward to your assessment from practices.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Karl Hungus on August 12, 2015, 08:09:52 PM
Caution Will Robinson , J.T. said the most important play in football is the punt. We need a stong kicking game. :(
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: mvfc penguin on August 12, 2015, 11:45:22 PM
Somewhat of a battle between McFadden and Kennedy for the starting kicking job (but no real winner for the fans there)
Somewhat of a battle between Kennedy and Sheely for the starting punting job (but no real winner for the fans there)
Somewhat of a battle between McFadden, Kennedy and Sheely for the starting kickoff job (but no real winner for the fans there)
Somewhat of a battle between newcomer Steven Wethli and Kuhn for the starting long snapping job (but no real winner for the fans there)

Catch a theme occurring here with our Specialists?

This has been something we have taken for granted the past couple of years with Liste, Cejudo, Gibbs and even Brown. Make sure to take some Advil on 4th downs this year because it may cause a multitude of headaches for fans.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 14, 2015, 08:34:30 AM
The Missouri conference returns 5 starting kickers from a year ago. The other 4 teams must replace their kickers as well. It will be interesting to see how many are true freshman or were currently on the active roster from a year ago or transfers. This is the F.C.S. level with fewer scholarships  and unfortunately teams can't take the approach with specialists like F.B.S. programs can. I hope it all works out because there will be a number of conference games that will come down to field goals. Touch backs are another concern of mine and joey c. Did a pretty good job of limited returns
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 15, 2015, 03:22:22 PM
IAA fan, eagerly awaiting your review of the scrimmage. From the report I saw, the defense dominated the first 8 possessions. Only allowing a single 3rd down conversion. Kinda concerns me. The "sacks" show me that the defense is getting pressure which is good, but is that why the offense struggled to find rhythm at first? Was the offensive line playing bad?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: IAA Fan on August 16, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
It was a situational scrimmage, so hard to tell anything. I am sorry but I got involved with the new lights and lots of facilities changes.

Webb was really good on his drive with the #1's. Ruiz was "as expected". Scott and McCaster stood out and should both be red-shirted, but they look really good.

Not much kicking, but the balls are going through. The drills for scores were all from the 30 & both FG's were therefore 40-yards and both good. From what I saw today, Wells was far from head-and-shoulder above Davis, but he was able to more easily put the ball into the end-zone. The kicking rotations were all fine out to the 40, but that was not with any real pressure.

Talk about a completely new attitude everywhere
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 16, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
I got a chance to take in the scrimmage yesterday.Obviously the defense is much improved from a year ago. The same can also be said for the offense. Keep in mind each unit is making the other one better. I don't think that was case last fall camp. The offense has the ability to put up some big numbers this season and have bigger play ability then some would think. Defensively they can bring it and showed much more creativity with their schemes. The improvement with the D-line will help the defensive backs out considerably. I agree with Fan..Different  Era..Different attitudes !!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 16, 2015, 11:38:12 AM
Well, that is good news! From YSU's official description, it had made it sound like our offense had done bad. It made it seem as though it was only a situational scrimmage for part of the scrimmage and the rest of the scrimmage was an attempt for a real game. It also made it seem like during the real game part, the defense gave up 1 first down in the first 8 possessions. But if you are both saying good things, then I'm happy.

IAA: On Scott, you said he looked good. Did he practice with 1st or 2nd team offense? Also, if he is good, why would you prefer he is red shirted?

Fever: With your comments about a new era, and different attitudes, does this mean your mind might be changing on Pelini? Granted it is a bit early yet, but your attitude seems to have changed.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 16, 2015, 12:16:45 PM
Yo Show- It's very easy to see that he is earning the respect of his players and they enjoy playing for him. Coach Pelini to this point has stayed low keyed and is doing and saying all the right things. I just hope it continues and history doesn't repeat itself. He has been very upfront about the challenges that await in conference play and I respect that a great deal..there is a good nucleus for success with our current roster and all the players and coaches our working extremely hard and that's all you can ask for to this point..Go Guins!!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 16, 2015, 01:07:58 PM
GO GUINS indeed! I am beyond eager for the first game! #Beat Pitt
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: IAA Fan on August 16, 2015, 01:17:16 PM
It is not that I want him red-shirted, but yes if he is the #1, then so be it. He was with the #2's primarily.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 17, 2015, 12:14:43 AM
Who were the starters in the secondary?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysuguins4 on August 17, 2015, 12:28:42 PM
Who were the starters in the secondary?

and did any of them stand out?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: go guins on August 17, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
Who were the starters in the secondary?

and did any of them stand out?
You two guys are focused on the main issue for the 2015 Penguins.  Unfortunately I don't think we will really know what we have until at least 1/2 the season is in the books.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: k9_r on August 18, 2015, 02:00:32 PM
Question, is Avery Moss not starting at DE? If so, do we know why?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: go guins on August 18, 2015, 02:13:53 PM
At least I see Moss listed on the roster, as well as Alexander and Powell, but Daniels is not.  I assume legal issues, which appeared to be substantial, are the issue.  Anybody have any updates?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: IAA Fan on August 18, 2015, 02:22:43 PM
I do not expect to see any updates until we start releasing 3-deeps. Which is only a couple of weeks away.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 18, 2015, 03:10:54 PM
Go guins, daniels is going to another fcs school not ysu if you didnt hear the update.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: IAA Fan on August 18, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
Yes ...Murray State:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/elijah-daniel-to-play-at-murray-state--not-youngstown-state-144752199.html;_ylt=A0LEVigRpdNVNnIADpknnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bmMxczJpBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDRkZYVUk0MV8xBHNlYwNzcg--
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: go guins on August 19, 2015, 09:26:39 AM
Thanks for the update.  I have no doubt the kid can ball, but I don't think we will miss the character issues.  Stealing from teammates is really poison in a locker room!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Penguin Nation on August 19, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
I like the way Murray State is handling this, and if Elijah's statement is sincere, then he is on the path to a bright future.  Choosing Murray State is bizarre, but surely there are factors of which I am unaware.  I've never heard a follow up from the local media as to why he didn't choose YSU, and doubt I ever will.

As long as he gets community service and stays out of the pokey, he's going to light it up against OVC competition.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/07/former_auburn_star_elijah_dani.html
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 20, 2015, 07:39:49 PM
Any more updates from anybody? I've heard that Pinnock has been impressing the staff. Good, sound tackler.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysuguins4 on August 21, 2015, 01:25:57 PM
Fan,

Let us know who gets the majority of reps in the secondary when you go to the scrimmage tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: IAA Fan on August 21, 2015, 05:25:13 PM
Fan,

Let us know who gets the majority of reps in the secondary when you go to the scrimmage tomorrow.


Sorry ysuguins ...I will not be able to make it. My Godson is starting at Penn State and I am helping him move in. I will be watching next week though.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 22, 2015, 03:37:36 PM
Anybody able to see the scrimmage? Defense dominated from what I heard.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 22, 2015, 04:29:36 PM
Well, I'm concerned. I wasn't there, and I'm glad our defense is looking good, but i was figuring with all the linemen and skill players we had returning that our offense would be pretty good.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: penguinpower on August 22, 2015, 05:32:19 PM
Well, I'm concerned. I wasn't there, and I'm glad our defense is looking good, but i was figuring with all the linemen and skill players we had returning that our offense would be pretty good.

The offense has failed against the best defenses the last 4 years.  Perhaps we now have one of the better defenses and we would expect the offense to struggle based on past experience.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 22, 2015, 05:42:50 PM
Well, I'm concerned. I wasn't there, and I'm glad our defense is looking good, but i was figuring with all the linemen and skill players we had returning that our offense would be pretty good.

To be fair, the backups played a lot today. Starters played first couple series and sat out.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 22, 2015, 07:10:43 PM
I wasn't there today. But I like the fact that true freshman Shackleford had 5 receptions today. I feel he has the potential to be a big time playmaker.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 22, 2015, 08:32:35 PM
Well, I'm concerned. I wasn't there, and I'm glad our defense is looking good, but i was figuring with all the linemen and skill players we had returning that our offense would be pretty good.

The offense has failed against the best defenses the last 4 years.  Perhaps we now have one of the better defenses and we would expect the offense to struggle based on past experience.

This is true. Maybe this is the case. Ysufan0505, i know the backups played alot but what the starters did while playing is concerning. Hunter wells threw 2 picks.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 23, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
Yo Show- l really wouldn't be concerned with Wells being picked twice. The defense to this point has seen about everything the offense runs and are very familiar with their plays.. I believe LB kelly had all 3 picks. The offense will be fine this year don't worry !!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: OleYSUfan on August 23, 2015, 06:42:45 PM
I don't believe you can judge the offense and defense performance at this point. Coach Pelini and his team are evaluating every position, moving guys and changing the lineup constantly with freshmen thru seniors. During these changes several "known" starters are seeing limited time to protect against injuries.

The coaches are doing a lot more teaching and looking for the 2nd and 3rd depth teams. Also they are trying to find the right guys for the special teams which has to be shored up.

We won't really know who is starting until the Pitt game. Even then it will change in the next two home games so we can be truly ready for the MVFC. 
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ScarletRook on August 23, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
I understand that  a couple of players have run into severe scheduling problems and will lose out and possibly drop in the line-up by missing some practices during the week.  I know they have people that work with scheduling for athletes, but I would guess that class times are limited.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysubigred on August 24, 2015, 08:50:32 AM
Well, I'm concerned. I wasn't there, and I'm glad our defense is looking good, but i was figuring with all the linemen and skill players we had returning that our offense would be pretty good.

To be fair, the backups played a lot today. Starters played first couple series and sat out.

I'm not sure why Monty was retained. YSU's "O" in a crunch time situation or against a team that plays "D" was horrible. As much as I hate to say it the "D" under Wolford was bad, but IT (D) was not the only problem Montys "O" was equally as bad when it counted.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: penguinpower on August 24, 2015, 09:22:54 AM
Well, I'm concerned. I wasn't there, and I'm glad our defense is looking good, but i was figuring with all the linemen and skill players we had returning that our offense would be pretty good.

To be fair, the backups played a lot today. Starters played first couple series and sat out.

I'm not sure why Monty was retained. YSU's "O" in a crunch time situation or against a team that plays "D" was horrible. As much as I hate to say it the "D" under Wolford was bad, but IT (D) was not the only problem Montys "O" was equally as bad when it counted.


10-4 on that.  I was also indirectly pointing that out in my outlook.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 24, 2015, 12:18:45 PM
Well, I'm concerned. I wasn't there, and I'm glad our defense is looking good, but i was figuring with all the linemen and skill players we had returning that our offense would be pretty good.

To be fair, the backups played a lot today. Starters played first couple series and sat out.

I'm not sure why Monty was retained. YSU's "O" in a crunch time situation or against a team that plays "D" was horrible. As much as I hate to say it the "D" under Wolford was bad, but IT (D) was not the only problem Montys "O" was equally as bad when it counted.

Amen. Amazing how much the offense is struggling in practice against an improved Pelini defense.... Sigh. Hopefully Pelini has the balls to let Monty go after some ugly losses given up due to the offense.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysuguins4 on August 24, 2015, 12:30:52 PM
I believe Wolf was holding Monty back.  We shouldn't see the offense disappear in the second half this season.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ScarletRook on August 24, 2015, 01:11:47 PM
Quote
Amen. Amazing how much the offense is struggling in practice against an improved Pelini defense.... Sigh. Hopefully Pelini has the balls to let Monty go after some ugly losses given up due to the offense.

Wait a minute Fan...don't you mean and improved "Stoops" defense?  :o
I think there will be more house cleaning at the end of the season, but I am hoping we are not
suffering ugly losses.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysubigred on August 24, 2015, 02:17:33 PM
I believe Wolf was holding Monty back.  We shouldn't see the offense disappear in the second half this season.

 :o and "IF" you believe that I have some swamp land I'll sell you in AZ! Wolf and Monty... The blind leading the blind when it mattered  ::)
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: IAA Fan on August 24, 2015, 02:41:04 PM
Monty is still the best coach we have ...NO exceptions. Personal opinion of course.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 25, 2015, 11:11:40 AM
Excited to see what the former Nebraska players can do. They seem to be stepping up big time in practice. LeRoy is the starter at safety along with Jameel. Moss is gonna be a great edge rusher for us. Excited about the defense as a whole.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysubigred on August 25, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Monty is still the best coach we have ...NO exceptions. Personal opinion of course.

LOL opinions are like bungholes everybody has one!! Don't quit your day job to use your football knowledge for a new endeavor  ::)
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 29, 2015, 11:57:39 AM
Some very interesting tweets from Joe Scalzo concerning the depth charts..Definitely a few surprises there
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 29, 2015, 02:01:37 PM
Absolutely! I feel for Jalyn Powell. He transferred while getting (some) playing time at Michigan State. He comes here and doesn't make the two deep! I have a feeling this is a telling sign of how much improved the secondary will be this year, and the overall depth our defense has.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 29, 2015, 05:05:59 PM
Absolutely! I feel for Jalyn Powell. He transferred while getting (some) playing time at Michigan State. He comes here and doesn't make the two deep! I have a feeling this is a telling sign of how much improved the secondary will be this year, and the overall depth our defense has.

Absolutely, my thinking as well.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: penguinpower on August 29, 2015, 09:51:05 PM
Absolutely! I feel for Jalyn Powell. He transferred while getting (some) playing time at Michigan State. He comes here and doesn't make the two deep! I have a feeling this is a telling sign of how much improved the secondary will be this year, and the overall depth our defense has.

Absolutely, my thinking as well.

Or he is high maintenance
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Wick250 on August 30, 2015, 12:06:36 AM
I have been very impressed by the way Pelini has handled his players from the moment he arrived on campus.  He ran off nobody, in sharp contrast to his predecessor.  He announced open competition for positions during spring ball and really meant it.  Now that competition has extended into fall practice, exactly as it should.  Everybody earns playing time; nothing is freely granted. 

For five years on the defensive side of the ball, we saw good athletes who could not or would not PLAY TOGETHER AS A UNIT.  I suspect that players that are more readily buying into his system are now sitting in comfortable positions on the depth chart.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUGO on August 30, 2015, 06:17:39 AM
Since I haven't seen a practice I am not going to speculate on why Powell isn't in the 2 deep.  Let's see after week 3 or 4 where he is. 

Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 30, 2015, 09:52:37 AM
I was surprised to see Cody Squiric ahead of Kromah on the depth chart. Obviously is doesn't mean too much at this point. I see a lot of rotating on the D-Line but Kromah has started every game the last 2 years. Squiric is a big, strong kid. Young though...

As scalzo stated, Dubem got surpassed although that could be because of injury but Lee Wright was always a guy I found interesting. Transfer from App State, pretty athletic kid. Jamar Pinnock is at the other LB spot. I watched his tape from JUCO. This kid can hit and tackle well. Like the moves Pelini is making on defense!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ValleyTalk on August 30, 2015, 10:10:16 AM
Saw this in the Vindy for those that care:

The band marched from Bliss Hall on Wick Avenue to the stadium. Payne said band enrollment is at 165 members, up by 35 from last year. - See more at: http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/aug/30/marching-pride/#sthash.ufEC76Al.dpuf
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: penguinpower on August 30, 2015, 11:02:59 AM
I was surprised to see Cody Squiric ahead of Kromah on the depth chart. Obviously is doesn't mean too much at this point. I see a lot of rotating on the D-Line but Kromah has started every game the last 2 years. Squiric is a big, strong kid. Young though...

As scalzo stated, Dubem got surpassed although that could be because of injury but Lee Wright was always a guy I found interesting. Transfer from App State, pretty athletic kid. Jamar Pinnock is at the other LB spot. I watched his tape from JUCO. This kid can hit and tackle well. Like the moves Pelini is making on defense!

If we want to compete for a championship the one's and two's need to be equal or provide equal results.  Perhaps he is balancing experience with ability and leadership so he has the right people on the field all the time.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUFB93 on August 30, 2015, 12:58:52 PM
Something ive noticed is this new staff loves to recruit big WRs, we have 7 WRs 6'3 or 6'4 and 5 of them are freshman. Hopefully they have some speed too.

anyone know where i can find a depth chart?
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 30, 2015, 01:00:34 PM
One thing I also find interesting, the right and left guards are bigger than the right and left tackles! I recognize they were all the starters last year for their respective positions. But i thought the tackles should be bigger than the guards generally
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 30, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
One thing I also find interesting, the right and left guards are bigger than the right and left tackles! I recognize they were all the starters last year for their respective positions. But i thought the tackles should be bigger than the guards generally

You always want more beef in the middle. Outisde guys big yes, but need to be able to move well with the speed rushers now a days.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUFB93 on August 30, 2015, 06:04:59 PM
I think there is the potential for a really big year for Wells. Second year in a system after being a 60% 2:1 TD/Int ratio is promising. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes close to 25 TDS while keeping the int under 10.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Double ET on August 30, 2015, 07:00:49 PM
Something ive noticed is this new staff loves to recruit big WRs, we have 7 WRs 6'3 or 6'4 and 5 of them are freshman. Hopefully they have some speed too.

anyone know where i can find a depth chart?

It was listed in today's Vindy sports section,
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 30, 2015, 09:59:26 PM
Also interested to see the true freshman Kennedy get the nod over McFadden. Guess the bare foot wasn't working good enough.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 31, 2015, 09:03:58 AM
This year's offensive line is huge and averages around 325. It will be interesting to see how they perform against smaller and more mobile defensive fronts. I really like what the staff is doing Defensively, speed and athleticism all over the field.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2015, 09:20:08 AM
Im excited as well. Noticed a discussion on covers where this individual claimed ysus oline was smaller than pitts and they had no good corners, only to be corrected by other forum members! Really thinking this game is favoring ysu. I suppose it will depend on exactly what you mentiond fever, seeing how they perform against smaller more mobile fronts.

Pitts starting defensive line is smaller in size to YSUs. So hoepfully the oline does better against pitts defense than they have been against YSU
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: Petey on August 31, 2015, 10:00:14 AM
noted on a Pitt fan forum they believe both lines to be much bigger than YSU and they should have no problem. Weights they listed for OF line were way under 300?? Not sure what they are looking at!!

GOOOO GUINS!!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 31, 2015, 10:04:00 AM
Your right Yo..the defensive line has had the upper hand most of fall camp and that is why the offense has stuggled at times. I still like our chances this Saturday. Pitts O-line is very banged up and many players remain questionable. Wells has more weapons at his disposal then a year ago. He has to just take what the defense gives him and not force as many balls as Paladin eluded to earlier. I see many things we can take advantage of with the Pitt defense..we have to keep Wells upright in this one
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUFB93 on August 31, 2015, 11:15:56 AM
So uh Zack Torbert is going to be a beast, watch his senior year video. Listed at 4.58 but always running away from people

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 31, 2015, 11:39:03 AM
So uh Zack Torbert is going to be a beast, watch his senior year video. Listed at 4.58 but always running away from people

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert

His highlight video is nice, but it's not against top level competition so take it with a grain of salt but still has good size, route running and some decent speed. How it translates to college is still TBD. He is not listed on the 2 deep depth chart. Wouldn't be surprised to see him redshirt.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUFB93 on August 31, 2015, 11:47:40 AM
So uh Zack Torbert is going to be a beast, watch his senior year video. Listed at 4.58 but always running away from people

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert

His highlight video is nice, but it's not against top level competition so take it with a grain of salt but still has good size, route running and some decent speed. How it translates to college is still TBD. He is not listed on the 2 deep depth chart. Wouldn't be surprised to see him redshirt.

It's against the same level of competition which he dominated, it's literally all he can do. By that logic I don't see why you bother following YSU, they never well vs top level competition like Ohio State or would beat an ND, TTUN, Bama etc.. he's also got a lot better then decent speed, at 6'3 when you out run every defender like that the  you have good speed.  And none of the freshman WR are on the 2 deep which makes sense since we have a young QB it's best to go with experienced WR.

Shackleford and Torbert are going to give us 2 exciting options over the next 3-4 years
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: penguinpower on August 31, 2015, 12:38:44 PM
So uh Zack Torbert is going to be a beast, watch his senior year video. Listed at 4.58 but always running away from people

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert

His highlight video is nice, but it's not against top level competition so take it with a grain of salt but still has good size, route running and some decent speed. How it translates to college is still TBD. He is not listed on the 2 deep depth chart. Wouldn't be surprised to see him redshirt.

It's against the same level of competition which he dominated, it's literally all he can do. By that logic I don't see why you bother following YSU, they never well vs top level competition like Ohio State or would beat an ND, TTUN, Bama etc.. he's also got a lot better then decent speed, at 6'3 when you out run every defender like that the  you have good speed.  And none of the freshman WR are on the 2 deep which makes sense since we have a young QB it's best to go with experienced WR.

Shackleford and Torbert are going to give us 2 exciting options over the next 3-4 years

I think you pit way too much value on skilled positions.  It all starts and ends with line play.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUFB93 on August 31, 2015, 12:56:00 PM
So uh Zack Torbert is going to be a beast, watch his senior year video. Listed at 4.58 but always running away from people

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert

His highlight video is nice, but it's not against top level competition so take it with a grain of salt but still has good size, route running and some decent speed. How it translates to college is still TBD. He is not listed on the 2 deep depth chart. Wouldn't be surprised to see him redshirt.

It's against the same level of competition which he dominated, it's literally all he can do. By that logic I don't see why you bother following YSU, they never well vs top level competition like Ohio State or would beat an ND, TTUN, Bama etc.. he's also got a lot better then decent speed, at 6'3 when you out run every defender like that the  you have good speed.  And none of the freshman WR are on the 2 deep which makes sense since we have a young QB it's best to go with experienced WR.

Shackleford and Torbert are going to give us 2 exciting options over the next 3-4 years

I think you pit way too much value on skilled positions.  It all starts and ends with line play.

Boy what a prick this guy is. So I'm not allowed to be excited about 2 young players just because they don't play on the OL(and played my position in college), okay d*****bag.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: penguinpower on August 31, 2015, 01:15:32 PM
So uh Zack Torbert is going to be a beast, watch his senior year video. Listed at 4.58 but always running away from people

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert

His highlight video is nice, but it's not against top level competition so take it with a grain of salt but still has good size, route running and some decent speed. How it translates to college is still TBD. He is not listed on the 2 deep depth chart. Wouldn't be surprised to see him redshirt.

It's against the same level of competition which he dominated, it's literally all he can do. By that logic I don't see why you bother following YSU, they never well vs top level competition like Ohio State or would beat an ND, TTUN, Bama etc.. he's also got a lot better then decent speed, at 6'3 when you out run every defender like that the  you have good speed.  And none of the freshman WR are on the 2 deep which makes sense since we have a young QB it's best to go with experienced WR.

Shackleford and Torbert are going to give us 2 exciting options over the next 3-4 years

I think you pit way too much value on skilled positions.  It all starts and ends with line play.

Boy what a prick this guy is. So I'm not allowed to be excited about 2 young players just because they don't play on the OL(and played my position in college), okay d*****bag.


Your assessment of the Montana game is wrong and your assessment of the WR's is not accurate with our OC.  He tends to have them all ready, even the young ones.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ScarletRook on August 31, 2015, 01:22:14 PM
Ah the return of football season when excitement is in the air and name calling fills the board.  I hope some of you keep your phones on so that the coaches can call you for who should play and what play to call.
There are 11 men out on the field at one time.  Each has their own purpose and importance.  Let's don't eat our own.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUFB93 on August 31, 2015, 02:00:49 PM
So uh Zack Torbert is going to be a beast, watch his senior year video. Listed at 4.58 but always running away from people

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert

His highlight video is nice, but it's not against top level competition so take it with a grain of salt but still has good size, route running and some decent speed. How it translates to college is still TBD. He is not listed on the 2 deep depth chart. Wouldn't be surprised to see him redshirt.

It's against the same level of competition which he dominated, it's literally all he can do. By that logic I don't see why you bother following YSU, they never well vs top level competition like Ohio State or would beat an ND, TTUN, Bama etc.. he's also got a lot better then decent speed, at 6'3 when you out run every defender like that the  you have good speed.  And none of the freshman WR are on the 2 deep which makes sense since we have a young QB it's best to go with experienced WR.

Shackleford and Torbert are going to give us 2 exciting options over the next 3-4 years

I think you pit way too much value on skilled positions.  It all starts and ends with line play.

Boy what a prick this guy is. So I'm not allowed to be excited about 2 young players just because they don't play on the OL(and played my position in college), okay d*****bag.


Your assessment of the Montana game is wrong and your assessment of the WR's is not accurate with our OC.  He tends to have them all ready, even the young ones.

Nope. I'm 100% correct. You don't know a single thing about football,all I've seen is nothing but you believing your own bullsh*t like you have a relevant opinion.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: YSUFB93 on August 31, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Ah the return of football season when excitement is in the air and name calling fills the board.  I hope some of you keep your phones on so that the coaches can call you for who should play and what play to call.
There are 11 men out on the field at one time.  Each has their own purpose and importance.  Let's don't eat our own.

Wouldn't be the first time Monty has called me, I've worked with the staff before in the past with some kids during the off-season. Playing at this level and having the ring to back it up gives you that privilege
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: HappyPenguin on August 31, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
Tell Monty he can keep the playbook open for the second half.
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 31, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
If you talk to Monty again, tell him not to water down the offense and lose us conference games like he has done the last 2-4 years in the 2nd half of the season. Thanks bud!
Title: Re: Fall Practice Updates
Post by: ysubigred on September 01, 2015, 12:55:28 PM
Hey, tell Monty he's lucky he still has a job and prove he earned this second chance!

I know the "D" was bad but this stood out to me when I reviewed the game summaries from last year and Monty's offense:

YSU scored a total of 132 points in the second half last year (328) total in all 12 games.
Only 29 points in the 3rd QTR in 12 games?!
Remember there was 3 weenie games last year, where YSU scored a total of 40 of the 132 points (only 3 against Duquesne).
21 more points was in the 4th QTR against South Dakota (0-8) in the MVFC for a come from behind "W".
YSU was held scoreless in 2 games in the second half 1 "W" Mo ST and 1 "L" ISU (r).
Then you have the 14 points given up by NDSU's band filling in for their starters in the second half.

Sorry to beat a dead horse here.

This year is exciting and YSU will do better  ;)