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Title: Murray State Game Week
Post by: ysu1982 on November 12, 2023, 08:35:59 AM
Against Murray State YSU should play Brungard at QB. We need to find out if he is the QB for next year or do we have to go the transfer portal. I know one game will not answer the question, but it is a start. I know it is unfair to Davidson and the other seniors might not like it, but it should be done. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: IAA Fan on November 12, 2023, 08:45:03 AM
Against Murray State YSU should play Brungard at QB. We need to find out if he is the QB for next year or do we have to go the transfer portal. I know one game will not answer the question, but it is a start. I know it is unfair to Davidson and the other seniors might not like it, but it should be done. Thoughts?

Good question. (If you do not mind I am going to use it to start the MSU game week thread). No, Brungard is not the man. We need to be looking to play further down the roster unless our guys have used the allowable playing time. Other than that we need to use Davidson. This is his team and a little respect and gratitude goes a long way with the younger players. Brungard has and will continue to contribute to this team.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: Double ET on November 12, 2023, 09:04:48 AM
Against Murray State YSU should play Brungard at QB. We need to find out if he is the QB for next year or do we have to go the transfer portal. I know one game will not answer the question, but it is a start. I know it is unfair to Davidson and the other seniors might not like it, but it should be done. Thoughts?

If all the coaching staff wants to do is to ask him to run the ball every time he gets on the field, there is all I need to know. Apparently, they must have decided that he is not going to our next guy. Just my 2 cents worth.

We need to a transfer QB via the portal, whether Philips wants or not. It’s a necessity. Think about it, what would our running game be like last couple of years  if we haven’t gotten McLauglin to transfer in. Do we really believe #1 could have done it?
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: The YO Show on November 12, 2023, 09:18:13 AM
Ironically, despite my initial reaction, the penguins are still in playoff contention with a win based on a lot of the games needed to go our way going our way yesterday. It is a highly likely situation that ysu is in with a win on Saturday... so I would play Mitch. He has the best odds of delivering the win for the playoff push
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: IAA Fan on November 12, 2023, 09:18:43 AM
Yes ET. What do you think about #10? What has happened to him the last few games? Maybe a hidden injury? Or has #1 improved that much?
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: No. 1 Tailgater on November 12, 2023, 09:30:07 AM
YO completely agree. There is a good chance to get in. You put your best team on the field and play your best game in KY.  Others in out conference play each other and there will be losses. We will see next Sunday.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: Dmorton on November 12, 2023, 12:53:14 PM
I thought he did well, other than yesterday!
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: InTheYo on November 12, 2023, 02:39:49 PM
Against Murray State YSU should play Brungard at QB. We need to find out if he is the QB for next year or do we have to go the transfer portal. I know one game will not answer the question, but it is a start. I know it is unfair to Davidson and the other seniors might not like it, but it should be done. Thoughts?

Not only would it be unfair to Davidson and the seniors, but for this entire fan base. You still have a true path to the playoffs, although yesterday put a bit of a damper on that path, so you must put your best players out there to give us the absolute best chance of winning.

The QB issue can be addressed in the offseason.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: guinpen on November 12, 2023, 02:43:19 PM
Like any other game you start your best and play to win. Mitch is the best qb at this point. The other qbs, can get their playing time at the end of a blowout win by us.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: Double ET on November 12, 2023, 07:10:57 PM
Yes ET. What do you think about #10? What has happened to him the last few games? Maybe a hidden injury? Or has #1 improved that much?

Honestly, I thought the coaches felt that they are obligated to put in #1 since he has been around for so many years without much playing time.
In their minds, it is projected not a big drop off between the two. However, I totally disagree. If you watch them run, #10 has the ability to change directions quickly and find the opening and On the other hand, #1 would to run at the predetermined hole without the ability or the vision to change directions. 

Since #10 only got to run on every other series, he lost the continuity and the feel of the game. His output has hence decreased.

I could be wrong…..
but since you posted the questions….
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: YsuPride on November 13, 2023, 07:38:36 AM
Win against a hapless Murry st team will do nothing for our playoff chances.  Our defense sucks so we will never blow them out let alone win.   We are on the road and we tend to struggle on the road period. Murry st is much better at home and like you don't think they want a win.  If and only if we win there will be no postseason for us again due to the fact we have lost to the top 3 teams in the standings this year.  Those are facts.  No playoffs which means more weight room time for the team.   That means more right now than making the playoffs and getting beat on the road.  You can either agree or disagree I don't care .
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: IAA Fan on November 13, 2023, 09:18:32 AM
Like any other game you start your best and play to win. Mitch is the best qb at this point. The other qbs, can get their playing time at the end of a blowout win by us.

I am 100% in agreement. You just don't suddenly diminish that way. Medical or psychological. We are Youngstown, we run the ball. Everyone knows it, but no one can stop it.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: penguinpower on November 13, 2023, 09:33:40 AM
Like any other game you start your best and play to win. Mitch is the best qb at this point. The other qbs, can get their playing time at the end of a blowout win by us.

I am 100% in agreement. You just don't suddenly diminish that way. Medical or psychological. We are Youngstown, we run the ball. Everyone knows it, but no one can stop it.


SDSU stopped it
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: ysubigred on November 13, 2023, 11:26:40 AM
Last game of the season and a must win for a playoff look on the bottom of a bubble.

1. I'm wondering why Brungard is not the QB of the future?? sh** this kid has not had the chance to show anything but run when everybody and Stevie Wonder knows it. I'm no talent scout but in spring ball he looked the best out of all I seen.

2. The Guins are still too small to play in the MVFC i.e. compete with the x-Dakota's and UNI. The eye test and diminishing stats show it to be fact. Davidson is a delusional or total team player to make an asinine comment like we are as big, strong and fast as SDSU.. Fast?? maybe/ but I saw receivers wide open cause DB couldn't run with them. How many penguins were pummeled and laying on the turf by getting smashed by superior size and strength.  Size does matter. Hell, Indy state was pushing the Guins around in the trenches. Can't run between the tackles when the O-line is pinched down and stood up. USD was beating the O-line all game with a 3-man rush.

3. Coaching staff.. wowsa. not too stellar.. I blame the AD.  Cheap Local talent gets you that product.

4. Schedule.. Need to get rid of the weenie games "IF" keeping the $$ game. Being 7-4 would be a lot better beating a name brand 1FCS team or two instead of Jerry's kids and the blind center. finishing in the conference 5-3 is a killer.

5. Referees!! Wowsa.. The bad non-calls are what was killers. SDSU had plenty of calls against them but not enough. The TD pass I heard the whistle as the ball was snapped (26 rows up in section 3). The SDSU guy slowed their aggression..

6. YSU student and fan base sucks can't say it any nicer. We have the faithful (me) and a few hundred in the tailgate lot. other than that, it's wishy washy and the invention of ESPN Plus is killing the casual fan at the gate.

7. Murray State is not hapless. We'll find out "IF" this team wants to be in or not by what they look like Saturday. 

GooooGuins!!
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: IAA Fan on November 13, 2023, 01:37:54 PM
Like any other game you start your best and play to win. Mitch is the best qb at this point. The other qbs, can get their playing time at the end of a blowout win by us.

I am 100% in agreement. You just don't suddenly diminish that way. Medical or psychological. We are Youngstown, we run the ball. Everyone knows it, but no one can stop it.


SDSU stopped it

It has been a few weeks now.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: Dmorton on November 13, 2023, 02:09:06 PM
Getting Blown out 36-0 to the #1 team in our house equals no play-offs!   The Penguins will not make the Play-offs with that performance on Saturday!  Doesn't matter what the team does against Murray!  Maybe if we  would have made a game of it Saturday, we might have had a chance!  Not now!  Back to the weight room guys!
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: YsuPride on November 13, 2023, 11:00:09 PM
Murry state is 2-8 but has been in a few games this year.  I smell upset and the idea that we are playing for nothing but pride now.  Playoffs are a foregone conclusion that we will not make them even if we win 55-0 this coming saturday.  I call it like i see it.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: guinpen on November 17, 2023, 09:01:44 AM
So quiet
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: ucfpengbuck on November 17, 2023, 09:07:02 AM
Murry state is 2-8 but has been in a few games this year.  I smell upset and the idea that we are playing for nothing but pride now.  Playoffs are a foregone conclusion that we will not make them even if we win 55-0 this coming saturday.  I call it like i see it.

Agree.  Can't see a 3 MVFC loss team getting in.  Hope I eat crow.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: penguinpower on November 18, 2023, 08:42:50 AM
Murry state is 2-8 but has been in a few games this year.  I smell upset and the idea that we are playing for nothing but pride now.  Playoffs are a foregone conclusion that we will not make them even if we win 55-0 this coming saturday.  I call it like i see it.

Agree.  Can't see a 3 MVFC loss team getting in.  Hope I eat crow.

We're in the best conference
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: Double ET on November 18, 2023, 08:56:51 AM
Murry state is 2-8 but has been in a few games this year.  I smell upset and the idea that we are playing for nothing but pride now.  Playoffs are a foregone conclusion that we will not make them even if we win 55-0 this coming saturday.  I call it like i see it.

Agree.  Can't see a 3 MVFC loss team getting in.  Hope I eat crow.


Just saying (for discussion purposes),

Assuming at 7-4, if the 3 mvfc loss are SDSU, SDU & NDSU (plus a power 5 loss), it probably will get in. If the 3 mvfc loss are Murray State, Indiana State & Illinois State, it will not get in.
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: IAA Fan on November 18, 2023, 09:07:44 AM
3-loss overall team from the MVFC. There is no question that one, possibly 3 of those team are in this year NDSU loses today, they might be in trouble. Even then I don't see them kept out. There are 2 other autobids undecided with 3+ losses
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: YsuPride on November 18, 2023, 12:57:15 PM
We stand no shot if we lose.  Need to win and get major help as well to make the playoffs
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: Double ET on November 18, 2023, 01:01:19 PM
We stand no shot if we lose.  Need to win and get major help as well to make the playoffs

Yes, not only do we need to win, we need to win by at least by 2 tds for us to make it in. Anything less than 14 points, we probably will need other help
Title: Re: Murray State Game Week
Post by: The YO Show on November 18, 2023, 03:58:39 PM
Well, it's good if we win by a few, but honestly we need other help Even then. Luckily some.of that is happening. Furman lost (doesn't directly affect us but lowers the view of the entire southern conference) then Western Carolina lost, knocking themselves out of playoffs and greatly helping ysu. They were likely going to be in over ysu