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Title: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 07, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
Joe Scalzo reported today that both CB Dale Peterman and Safety Donald D'Alesio have knee injuries. Peterman's is MCL related and expected to be out 3-4 weeks. D'Alesio's has not been identified yet but it is his right knee and expected to be out at least 2 weeks. Not good news at all as both are starters and both leaders on defense.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: penguinpower on August 07, 2013, 07:14:31 PM
Thanks for the update. Very concerning.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ScarletRook on August 07, 2013, 10:01:03 PM
  I heard Zaborsky and Brown were also out with knee injuries.
Any word how serious and who is taking their places?  Another question.  Many programs have their linemen wearing knee braces and YSU does not.  Is this a cost issue or something the team doctor does not recommend?
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: DiscMan on August 08, 2013, 05:22:25 PM
My guess would have to be cost, ScarletRook.  those braces i believe are specially made to measurements taken, so each one is unique.  Ive heard numbers in the 3k up range for each pair.  That is if TV announcers are correct.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 10, 2013, 11:39:16 PM
Add starting RB Demond Hymes to the list. Rolled his ankle 2 days ago. Sat out today's scrimmage
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Wick250 on August 11, 2013, 12:33:41 PM
Always bad when the injury list starts to grow.  Fortunately, the outcome of the first four games is basically predetermined.  We need all these guys back for the conference opener at Southern Illinois on September 28.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: IAA Fan on August 11, 2013, 07:32:46 PM
On knee braces. Evidence shows they shift the type of injury, also they do slow them up a bit. I would be in favor of wearing during camp, but then the players might not be comfortable at game-time. You see them in HS ball all of the time. Cost is between $300 and $600 a pair. My guess would be that YSU would not object to a player wearing them, but I understand that they do give a false sense of security.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ScarletRook on August 11, 2013, 08:48:09 PM
Thanks for the input.  I have noticed more colleges that are using the knee braces, but I never read anything that favored them or opposed them other than it would only help linemen due to their motion as opposed to that of a LB or DB.  Just seems to be a rash of knee injuries.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: DiscMan on August 12, 2013, 05:00:33 PM
The rash of injuries probably have more to do with structural weakness in the athlete than a knee brace or not.  I honestly thought the, fitted knee braces, would cost more than ones a highschooler would wear, though maybe more HS'ers are springing for the more expensive versions now.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 12, 2013, 06:12:39 PM
Wolford said that CB Dale Peterman will miss the first 2 games of the season. Hopefully we can get him back by the Michigan State game. First 2 games without him, we should be fine
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ScarletRook on August 12, 2013, 07:36:09 PM
Well with all the injuries, any update on how the reserves are doing?  Who are the guys waiting in the wing that can step in?
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 12, 2013, 09:37:13 PM
I think RS Freshman David Rivers has taken Dale's place at corner and RS Freshman Jameel Smith is at FS along with Freshman Kenny Bishop who was backing up at SS but now will get starting reps along with Josh Garner.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: HappyPenguin on August 13, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
I think RS Freshman David Rivers has taken Dale's place at corner and RS Freshman Jameel Smith is at FS along with Freshman Kenny Bishop who was backing up at SS but now will get starting reps along with Josh Garner.

That's odd, I would have though Childs and Boatwright would be 1st team after Dale. Anyone know if those 2 are healthy or has Rivers just won the spot?
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 13, 2013, 04:15:23 PM
I think RS Freshman David Rivers has taken Dale's place at corner and RS Freshman Jameel Smith is at FS along with Freshman Kenny Bishop who was backing up at SS but now will get starting reps along with Josh Garner.

That's odd, I would have though Childs and Boatwright would be 1st team after Dale. Anyone know if those 2 are healthy or has Rivers just won the spot?

Rivers is playing good. He's a bigger corner. Just young..... Boatwright is the starting nickel DB so I'm pretty sure they left him there
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Pizza on August 13, 2013, 11:16:17 PM
On knee braces. Evidence shows they shift the type of injury, also they do slow them up a bit. I would be in favor of wearing during camp, but then the players might not be comfortable at game-time. You see them in HS ball all of the time. Cost is between $300 and $600 a pair. My guess would be that YSU would not object to a player wearing them, but I understand that they do give a false sense of security.

I owned an Orthopedic Implant/Knee Brace distributorship for 20 years. I also coached Strength and Conditioning at the D1 Level. If anyone would like my 30 + years of "real world" experience (on both sides of the matter).......on what causes "Knee and Ankle" injuries.....and more importantly, what can and can't be done to prevent such injurie.............please feel free to PM me.  Some braces for some indications work. Some that are very popular....do nothing  ;)

I will clarify the science, the reality....so we won't have to guess.....

The kids are in good hands with Coach Burkey ATC...and (basketball) and JD and staff.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: HappyPenguin on August 14, 2013, 07:56:53 AM
I think RS Freshman David Rivers has taken Dale's place at corner and RS Freshman Jameel Smith is at FS along with Freshman Kenny Bishop who was backing up at SS but now will get starting reps along with Josh Garner.

That's odd, I would have though Childs and Boatwright would be 1st team after Dale. Anyone know if those 2 are healthy or has Rivers just won the spot?

Rivers is playing good. He's a bigger corner. Just young..... Boatwright is the starting nickel DB so I'm pretty sure they left him there

Thanks for the info 05...sounds like those 3 will be OK.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: YsuPride on August 14, 2013, 01:16:50 PM
Don't worry about Peterman as he was just arrested according to news reports.  Another local player bites the dust again. 
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: penguinpower on August 14, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
This is really a minor issue in my book.  It is not like he assulted someone, or got caught with drugs etc.



WARREN — A Youngstown State University defensive back was arrested and arraigned Tuesday on a traffic warrant from 2012.

Dale Peterman was arrested Tuesday morning and taken to the Trumbull County Jail. He was arraigned later that afternoon before Judge Thomas Gysegem of Warren Municipal Court on charges of possession of marijuana, speeding, driving under suspension and driving without a seat belt, all misdemeanors. He was released from the jail shortly after his arraignment on a personal-recognizance bond.

Court records show the charges were entered into the system May 15, 2012, and Peterman entered not-guilty pleas on May 18, 2012, but he did not show for his next court date. A judge issued a warrant for his arrest July 23, 2012.

Peterman’s next court date is 1:30 p.m. Aug. 27.

Peterman is a junior who played in all 11 games for the Penguins last season, according to the school’s website, and he played at Ursuline High School in Youngstown.

Peterman also had a failure-to-appear warrant for Girard Municipal Court for charges from Liberty police of driving under suspension, child restraint and improper display. Court records show those charges were entered Jan. 2 and Peterman pleaded not guilty to those charges Jan. 8, but he failed to show for a Feb. 13 court hearing. A warrant was issued for him on Feb. 14.

Court records show Peterman posted a $2,500 bond in that case and is due back in court at 9:30 a.m. Aug. 28.

Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: YSUGO on August 14, 2013, 04:01:31 PM
Peterman needs to go.  A man shows up and faces the music and takes responsibility for his actions.  He is a coward and basically sneaked around to avoid the law and it seems that the coaches either covered this up or didn't follow up. (I can see if it was once, but what 3 times}   I am disappointed in Peterman, Wolford and YSU football. 
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: penguinpower on August 14, 2013, 06:07:06 PM
I saw nothing related to drugs. These are traffic violations.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysuindy on August 14, 2013, 06:26:39 PM
I saw nothing related to drugs. These are traffic violations.

From the article you posted

He was arraigned later that afternoon before Judge Thomas Gysegem of Warren Municipal Court on charges of possession of marijuana, speeding, driving under suspension and driving without a seat belt, all misdemeanors. He was released from the jail shortly after his arraignment on a personal-recognizance bond.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: penguinpower on August 15, 2013, 04:25:13 AM
I saw nothing related to drugs. These are traffic violations.

From the article you posted

He was arraigned later that afternoon before Judge Thomas Gysegem of Warren Municipal Court on charges of possession of marijuana, speeding, driving under suspension and driving without a seat belt, all misdemeanors. He was released from the jail shortly after his arraignment on a personal-recognizance bond.




I totally glanced over that one. Thanks for pointing that out. Looks like he wants to be a ghetto thug like so many other athletes these days.  Is it really that difficult to get through college without being arrested?  My thought on this original article sort of reminded me of when I was in college. I remember a time when I didn't have enough money for license plates on my car so I let them expire (I prioritized that the insurance was more important from a risk standpoint). I had an unplanned expense when the head gasket on my POS chrysler product failed. At the time it cost me $900 to replace the head because the cooling jacket cracked (I will never buy a Chrysler again). A week later I was stopped for expired plates and was embarrassed about it. I ended up going to court and the judge made me pay the fine and the court costs.

When he asked me why I was driving around with expired plates I told him that I didn't have any excuses, I just didn't have the money at the time. It was close summer break and I had intended to work to earn money during the summer to help me pay for the plates.

I tried to put myself in his shoes for a minute so maybe I was seeing only what I wanted to see. I totally missed the drugs part- never touched them myself.   
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 16, 2013, 03:22:47 PM
Updates from camp: D'Alesio was back at practice today which is good news. Also Stephen Page is starting at center and they moved Elkins back to guard. Not sure why