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How good is the MVFC
ysubigred:
"IF" the MVFC was getting the full complement of schollies (FBS) I'd say this conference would not be too far behind the
Penguin Nation:
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--- Quote from: IAA Fan on September 26, 2014, 12:40:31 PM ---Secondly, talk said well, we had 2 coach H teams (arguably 3) that deserved the post-season. We have had no coach W teams that deserved consideration.
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In the final 2013 Sports Network poll, YSU was ranked 18th.
These at-large bids were ranked lower: Samford (19), S Utah (21), and SC State (25)
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It appears that Samford was ranked lower than YSU not just on the Sports Network poll, but also the actual SRS, and yet still received an at-large bid over YSU:
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=38125
Some concerns expressed with the SRS:
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=38146
Does the playoff selection committee have a bias toward smaller schools and smaller conferences? I would say yes. I'm not claiming that the YSU FB program would have gone deep in the post-season, or even that it is not a disappointment considering all of the resources it has. I'm just saying there appears to be irregularities in the selection process resulting in a selection bias by the committee.
penguinpower:
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on October 01, 2014, 07:51:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: Penguin Nation on September 26, 2014, 01:34:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: IAA Fan on September 26, 2014, 12:40:31 PM ---Secondly, talk said well, we had 2 coach H teams (arguably 3) that deserved the post-season. We have had no coach W teams that deserved consideration.
--- End quote ---
In the final 2013 Sports Network poll, YSU was ranked 18th.
These at-large bids were ranked lower: Samford (19), S Utah (21), and SC State (25)
--- End quote ---
It appears that Samford was ranked lower than YSU not just on the Sports Network poll, but also the actual SRS, and yet still received an at-large bid over YSU:
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=38125
Some concerns expressed with the SRS:
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=38146
Does the playoff selection committee have a bias toward smaller schools and smaller conferences? I would say yes. I'm not claiming that the YSU FB program would have gone deep in the post-season, or even that it is not a disappointment considering all of the resources it has. I'm just saying there appears to be irregularities in the selection process resulting in a selection bias by the committee.
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This is an excellent post. I sent Viverito an email last year about this very issue and she was just as baffled. I speculate that some of the voters just don't like us. Maybe it has to do with Tressel/ Issac stuff....but we were also better than Sam Houston State last year and had a better record.
In years past when Heacock's teams were left out.........the same thing happened. One time they said it was not enough D1 wins, then next year we were left out we were told that we went 2-3 or 0-3 in games at the end of the season. All arbitrary and that is why I disagree that how you finish the year....it doesn't matter. 8 wins is 8 wins. The MVFC schedule for us last year was weighted heavy at the end. Not our fault. We may have been able to beat UNI if we had a better schedule. The timing was not good for us.
At the end of the day the only time we got in the playoffs since Tressel left is when we won the conference outright and that was in 2006. It didn't matter if we shared the league title and that is why conference championships mean nothing to me.....doesn't translate into playoff births. We won the title in 1997 but we didn't win the conference. The voting must be standardized. The SRS calculation is unknown. It has not been published. I have been looking for the equation. More backroom deals.
IAA Fan:
In early Heacock HC years, the NCAA did not have clear rules, as the objective was how to make the division appear more positive and remain profitable. Teams refused to pay the fees. YSU paid well and had good crowds ...the results were more times selected and awarded home games. The fact that we played well made it even better.
However, let's face it ...teams do not have the chance to be so dominant without some "help" ;) ;)
Georgia Southern
Marshall
YSU
Appy State
ND State
and too a lesser degree Eastern Kentucky have all benefited from a more-than-generous amount of light being shed upon them by the NCAA.
Again, you cannot take only the nations perceived top teams and give them spots. If no one from the Ohio Valley Conference made the field, then athletes would not attend those schools and the conference would fold. Eventually so would the sub-division. If you want to grow the division, you need to spread the "seeds". Clearly the NCAA has recognized peoples concerns in the expansion of the play-off field.
nova75:
In the 10 years I have been on this board, this is officially the earliest you guys have ever started b****ing about the lack of respect for the conference and the anti-YSU conspiracy. I usually have to wait til November. Thanks! :P
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