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How good is the MVFC
penguinpower:
--- Quote from: nova75 on October 01, 2014, 07:01:17 PM ---In the 10 years I have been on this board, this is officially the earliest you guys have ever started b****ing about the lack of respect for the conference and the anti-YSU conspiracy. I usually have to wait til November. Thanks! :P
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The CAA has now become the little sisters of the poor with several (6 the last I checked) losses to NEC and Patriot league conference members. They essentially have 2 good teams which is Villanova and UNH while the MVFC has gone 23-1 in out of conference play with the single loss by 7 points to Montara. Yet the boobs over at the sports network are churning out articles that are titled "CAA football has a top 25 feel" and making statements such as "CAA football is the deepest conference in the FCS". Freaking Albany is in the top half this year and they have been full schedule for maybe a year. Wow! The other issue is that the CAA has no room to schedule MVFC or other power conference teams because the conference is "so big" yet they always seem to find a way to fit in an NEC team or a Patsy team. Interesting to say the least. TSN voters had 11 points for St. Francis. Unfortunately for us the FCS is an afterthought to 95% of the Walmartians that make up the US and so the voters and NCAA have no accountability in showing how teams are selected. What is really probably happening in the voters look at the TSN poll and assume everyone knows what they are talking about and the only have to evaluate the bubble teams. They know they can be as arbitrary as they want and there will be no consequences. Freaking Butler, Samford and SHSU were selected over YSU last year. You can't tell me that this is an anomaly. This happens all the time. Someone needs to pay the price for this travesty. What is is the drinking water in Eastern Pa? How could TSN even make those statements when the record clearly states otherwise? Care to answer that?
HappyPenguin:
--- Quote from: nova75 on October 01, 2014, 07:01:17 PM ---In the 10 years I have been on this board, this is officially the earliest you guys have ever started b****ing about the lack of respect for the conference and the anti-YSU conspiracy. I usually have to wait til November. Thanks! :P
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Really! Let's let Wolf blow a game by poor clock management and no second half adjustments before we command respect.
YSUFANSINCE1990:
In 2011 YSU didn't make the playoffs because they lost to the worst team in the league at home in the season finale, didn't deserve to make the playoffs. Last year lost to an injury depleted Northern Iowa team, they lost the final two games at home by a combined 47 points!!! Does that sound like a playoff team to you?
There is no conspiracy or dislike for YSU. Also add to the fact that if YSU keeps playing three scrimmages in September and not playing quality competition they are not going to get in as a bubble team. Northern Iowa at 7-5 was more worthy last year. Two of their losses to FBS teams, and they beat YSU.
As far back as Heacock's first year, there was a cry of conspiracy, yet, he lost at home to Western Kentucky with a playoff berth on the line, thats why YSU didn't make it.
We just haven't been good enough. One more reason YSU didn't get in last year, where was there a quality win? Maybe Southern Illinois, but they didn't beat a team that went to the playoffs.
Wick250:
This playoff debate really contains two issues that should be separated. First, was YSU cheated out of a berth last season? Second, is the NCAA selection process fair or biased?
Let's dispose of the first issue quickly. By last Thanksgiving weekend, we were not a playoff caliber team. It was not just the three consecutive losses but also how they happened. The team flat out quit against SDSU. Also, we had no quarterback with both Hess and Nania down.
The scandal revolves around the second issue; namely, the clandestine FCS selection process. The numerical ratings that FBS used to position teams for bowl games may or may not have been valid, but it was transparent. The table was published weekly, and each team knew where they stood. I had hoped that the FCS committee would have done the same thing last season. They had promised to use a formula based upon strength of schedule. Yet they refused to release that table DURING the season. Then they awarded multiple bids to weak conferences while offering only two to the MFVC. Southern Illinois or Northern Iowa should have replaced us in the tournament. The best conference deserved at least three bids regardless of records. Just as heavyweight basketball conferences place multiple teams into the NCAA tournament even though some of those teams are barely over .500.
To have any credibility and to remove all talk of conspiracy, the FCS selection committee must release their internal numbers periodically during the season, say after the last weeks of September and October. Until they become transparent, they are open to charges of being corrupt.
Penguin Nation:
So YSU was not good enough to make the 2013 post-season.....but teams with lower SRS (as well as lower ranking in other polls) were good enough?
From what I've read, the SRS does not penalize teams for late season losses. It shouldn't, because if it did it would be a(nother) de facto penalty for membership in a strong conference. If the selection committee truly penalizes teams for end of the season skids, than maybe NDSU should have a bye week the last week. Maybe the MVFC should allow OOC opponents to finish the season.
Again...YSU's last 3 games were against teams ranked #1 (also national champions ), #14, and UNI who was ranked two weeks before we played them. That same 2013 UNI team defeated Iowa State, crushed McNeese (who was ranked 9th), and finished the season with three straight wins. All 5 UNI losses were in the #1 FCS conference....and three of the games went to OT...two of them double OT...and they lost to the national champs by one point.
McNeese took a much worse beating from UNI and made the playoffs (YSU lost by 2....McNeese lost by 35 points).
How would at-large teams like TN State or Jacksonville State have fared versus those three teams? I'm pretty sure it would have been an 0-3 curb-stomping for all three games.
Here's an AGS thread about the SRS:
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?148321-SRS-released
I agree with the posters...the SRS produces results that wildly vary from nearly all other polls...including Massey which is a composite of polls. The SRS is claimed to factor in SOS....but if it does it must be given little weight.
BTW....it is not a conspiracy if it is a proven fact. A lower SRS team (Samford) made the 2013 post-season over a higher ranked team (YSU).
I agree with Wick. The final week (or even two weeks), every team should know the scenarios that exclude them or qualify them. There should be zero mystery after all of the scores are in on the final Saturday of regular season. The selection show should simply reveal the pairings, seeds, and venues.
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