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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2014, 10:47:36 PM »
You know what the Tressel teams would do in this situation the vast majority of the time? Win BOTH games and finish 9-3/6-2. I know Tressel has not been HC since 2000, but he raised the bar for YSU football, and that is now the measuring stick for teams and coaches.

I'm not sure Tressel could duplicate what took place from 89-2000 if it were possible to go back to that time period. YSU got alot of breaks and had luck on their side much of the time. Then again, a well used quote among those in sports is "luck is what happens when preperation meets opportunity".

We all got annoyed at times by "Tressel Ball". It was far from exciting, and at times it was sooooooooooooooo conservative. But, the vast majority of the time, YSU had more points at the end of the game than the opponent. The same was true of TOSU in the 10 years Tress was HC. And, Tressel coached teams almost always got better as the season went on. The same cannot be said of teams coached by Heacock or Wolford, with the possible exception of 2006.

Tressel teams often found ways to blow 1 game per year, but they also made up for the flub with multiple good wins and by winning often in November and December.

YSU holds their playoff fate in their own hands. And, as was pointed out, they can still win the MVFC auto-bid. Alot has to happen for YSU to win the MVFC, but the part YSU controls is winning the next 2 games. Win the nest 2 games, and YSU is in the playoffs, and has the possibility to be one of the 8 seeded teams. Go 1-1, and they are yet again on "the bubble", and that brings things such as the OOC schedule, the loss to WIU, possibility of being 4th place in the MFVC into play.

There has not been a season since YSU joined 1AA/FCS that they were given the screws by the playoff committee when on the bubble. The 96 team was 8-3, but 3 of the wins were over teams from D2. The 01 team was 8-3, but had 2 wins over D2 teams. YSU also lost at home to WKU when 6-1/4-1 and WKU was 5-2/2-1.

In 95, YSU finished 8-3, but lost back-to-back at UNI and SIU. YSU started the season 7-1/4-0, then finished 1-2 in the final 3 games. They also had a win over a D2 team and lost 41-0 at PITT.

Last years team sealed their fate by losing the final 3 games in a row. Win 1 of the 3, and YSU would have been in the playoffs and playing at home for their first game.

I think the MVFC will get 3 teams for sure, with the possibility of 4 or 5. YSU still controls their own destiny. Go 1-1 or 0-2 the next 2 weeks, and their playoff fate goes into the hands of the selection committee.

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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2014, 07:51:40 AM »
Right now, this Sportsnetwork FCS championship site projects five MVFC teams in with YSU hosting Bryant. Of course, subject to chance based on results over the next two weeks.  In right now based on those projections, ND St, Ill. St. UNI. YSU and SD St.

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« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2014, 12:23:05 PM »
Right now, this Sportsnetwork FCS championship site projects five MVFC teams in with YSU hosting Bryant. Of course, subject to chance based on results over the next two weeks.  In right now based on those projections, ND St, Ill. St. UNI. YSU and SD St.

We have two common opponents with Bryant, and the margin of victory was greater in each with YSU (although YSU games were at home and Bryant was away with both).

Versus Duquesne:                       YSU won 34-23, Bryant won 20-17
Versus Saint Francis (Pa.)            YSU won 52-23, Bryant won 42-27

Massey FCS ranking:   YSU 8 ,  Bryant  27   (How does a team ranked 27th get in a field of 24? ;D )
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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2014, 12:31:39 PM »
Good summary by Scalzo, although he is incorrect re: the MVFC auto-bid.  It all of the stars allign, as unlikely as it is, YSU could still get it.


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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2014, 01:03:11 PM »
Let's just win on saturday and take it from there.. None of us know whats going to happen, with the way the MVFC is im sure someone will lose that wasnt supposed to.
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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2014, 01:32:29 PM »
Let's just win on saturday and take it from there.. None of us know whats going to happen, with the way the MVFC is im sure someone will lose that wasnt supposed to.
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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2014, 07:50:57 PM »
No need to worry this weekend, because our boys will get things done and Northern Iowa WILL lose at Southern Ill!

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« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2014, 09:23:08 PM »
No need to worry this weekend, because our boys will get things done and Northern Iowa WILL lose at Southern Ill!
I am not that confident. History is on our side. An SIU would put a huge dagger in UNI's playoff hopes, while bolstering YSU's resume as SIU would re-enter the top 25 and be one win away from a potential playoff birth as well.

Bottom line, I will be 100% focused on YSU until 5:30pm. We can only worry about ourselves. Anything else is icing on the cake.

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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2014, 09:48:08 PM »
No need to worry this weekend, because our boys will get things done and Northern Iowa WILL lose at Southern Ill!

Sounds like a plan!
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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2014, 10:04:31 PM »
Two interesting links.

1) http://m.pantagraph.com/sports/college/football/isu-will-bid-on-home-playoff-games/article_2b8e1b6c-01a6-5fd4-9cec-3f38a27ffb00.html?mobile_touch=true
ILSU bidding for homes games and how it could change the start time of our basketball game against them. It also mentions the bids are due November 17th and how YSU is also competing for a playoff spot.

2) http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eCotwOXYY44
Extremely interesting interview with the UNI AD regarding the playoff selection process. I find it interesting that they do go about watching a lot of game film on each team, they look for teams moving up, not down (like us last year) at the end of the season, and how they pretty much have a bracket in mind each week.
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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2014, 12:07:32 AM »
Two interesting links.

1) http://m.pantagraph.com/sports/college/football/isu-will-bid-on-home-playoff-games/article_2b8e1b6c-01a6-5fd4-9cec-3f38a27ffb00.html?mobile_touch=true
ILSU bidding for homes games and how it could change the start time of our basketball game against them. It also mentions the bids are due November 17th and how YSU is also competing for a playoff spot.

2) http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eCotwOXYY44
Extremely interesting interview with the UNI AD regarding the playoff selection process. I find it interesting that they do go about watching a lot of game film on each team, they look for teams moving up, not down (like us last year) at the end of the season, and how they pretty much have a bracket in mind each week.

Thanks for the share, very interesting.
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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2014, 12:22:38 PM »
There has not been a season since YSU joined 1AA/FCS that they were given the screws by the playoff committee when on the bubble. The 96 team was 8-3, but 3 of the wins were over teams from D2. The 01 team was 8-3, but had 2 wins over D2 teams. YSU also lost at home to WKU when 6-1/4-1 and WKU was 5-2/2-1.

In 95, YSU finished 8-3, but lost back-to-back at UNI and SIU. YSU started the season 7-1/4-0, then finished 1-2 in the final 3 games. They also had a win over a D2 team and lost 41-0 at PITT.

I have to disagree with you on 2005 because of who they took instead of YSU.  8-3 Lafayette co-champs of the Patriot League was awarded an at large selection even though they were ranked 41st in the regular season ending GPI.  YSU was ranked 12th, and they were ranked higher in each of the 7 computer polls that make up the GPI.  The Patroit league's auto-bid went to co-champ Colgate, who had a GPI ranking of 40.  UNI and SIU shared the Gateway crown with the Guins, and were 7th and 9th in the GPI.  As a conference, the Gateway was 1st in the GPI and the Patriot 9th.  YSU's 3 losses were all on the road to 2 playoff teams and a BCS member school.  Lafayette's losses all came at home to Colgate and two Ivy league squads.

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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2014, 12:51:07 PM »
Samford in 2013 was ranked lower in every poll including the SRS and was also 8-4, and a member of an inferior conference (Southern).   They lost 2 of their last three, and the one win of those three was in OT.


Samford would've also gone 0-3 against UNI, SDSU and NDSU....as would most of the 2013 playoff selections.

YSU was more deserving by every measure.
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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2014, 11:51:47 AM »
No Bowls has 5 MVFC teams getting at-large invites....including YSU. fb

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Re: MVFC Playoff Outlook
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2014, 11:58:09 AM »
They actually have 6... NDSU, Ind St, Ill St, Northern Iowa, SDSU and YSU