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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Cleveland State next men's basketball game
« Last post by Cimo7 on Today at 11:14:53 AM »I am seeing we are favored -2.5
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Current Point Spread Vs Villanova
« Last post by penguinpower on Today at 08:10:20 AM »As of 11/29 we are 6.5 point underdogs.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Championship Odds (11/28 Update)
« Last post by penguinpower on Today at 08:03:23 AM »Our odds are now equivalent to teams seeded #5 and #8
Hopefully this gives people perspective on how far we've actually come since Pelini left the program in shambles.
People need to think again about hating on Phillips. We have a young team and a bright future (as long as we get a QB and fill some holes). Much more difficult to replace holes when it comesnto the OL.and DL. Hopefully we can go to the portal for some skill positions.
Hopefully this gives people perspective on how far we've actually come since Pelini left the program in shambles.
People need to think again about hating on Phillips. We have a young team and a bright future (as long as we get a QB and fill some holes). Much more difficult to replace holes when it comesnto the OL.and DL. Hopefully we can go to the portal for some skill positions.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Championship Odds (11/28 Update)
« Last post by penguinpower on Today at 07:57:35 AM »Championship Odds (11/28 Update)
No. 1 seed South Dakota State -165
No. 2 seed Montana +450
No. 6 seed Montana State +1000
North Dakota State +1000
No. 3 seed South Dakota +2000
No. 4 seed Idaho +2200
No. 8 seed Villanova +4000
No. 5 seed UAlbany +4000
Youngstown State +4000
Southern Illinois +6000
Delaware +6000
No. 7 seed Furman +8000
Richmond +10000
Chattanooga +15000
Sacramento State +15000
Mercer +20000
No. 1 seed South Dakota State -165
No. 2 seed Montana +450
No. 6 seed Montana State +1000
North Dakota State +1000
No. 3 seed South Dakota +2000
No. 4 seed Idaho +2200
No. 8 seed Villanova +4000
No. 5 seed UAlbany +4000
Youngstown State +4000
Southern Illinois +6000
Delaware +6000
No. 7 seed Furman +8000
Richmond +10000
Chattanooga +15000
Sacramento State +15000
Mercer +20000
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: NCAA football
« Last post by penguinpower on Today at 05:12:29 AM »Here's my take for what it's worth.
The FBS Power 2 will likely break off from the NCAA (similar to the NAIA). When I say power 2 , I'm referring to B1G and SEC similar to the NFL AFC and NFC. This will leave a watered down field of conferences that will be the current defacto version of the FCS. These teams will participate in bowl games but the power 2 will take the Major New Year's Day Bowls and rotate them for their 12 team playoff.
The NCAA isn't going to allow the formation of another FBS conference, so you will have to be invited.......and that's exactly what many of the teams in the East Coast have done.
There are something like 132 teams in the FCS, but who is left that can really compete? Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Coastal Carolina, JMU and now Delaware are leaving. That means that Villanova is the only CAA member that can compete and Maybe Furman in the So Con. The OVC lost Jacksonville State and took the least competitive MVFC Teams.
So who's actually left to compete for a national title? The MVFC and the Big Sky and that's it. Maybe the SWAC on a long shot but only 1 team per decade.
As I've said before, we are way better than 90% of the FCS. It's not crazy that the MVFC got 6 bids, the competition just isn't there anymore. There are more teams like NDSU and SDSU looking for an invitation to an FBS conference (like the Mountain West).
A lot of these teams are just making the jump without an actual fit (i.e. Delaware). There's so much disparity in the FacS today as well. We have teams in the NEC with 45 scholarships that can be beaten by D2 and NAIA teams and still get an autobid into the playoffs. Then you have teams like SDSU this year, who could beat every team in the Sunbelt, American Conference and half the B1G. In fact, I would argue they could potentially win the B1G West.....and there's evidence to support that; last year SDSU wasn't as good and played Iowa. They lost 7-3 at Iowa but Iowa didn't score a TD. They got 7 points with 2 safeties and a field goal. SDSU is built like a B1G team and they're drastically different from the bottom of the FCS but the same goes for YSU. We could beat many FBS "in name only" schools.
So the FCS is going to be a 2 league division (when it comes to competition).
However, at least for some period of time, teams like JMU that have made the jump will be able to make the 12 team playoff against the legitimate contenders in the FBS because they will take the best team from the group of 5. That may be why a lot of these teams want to go. (That being said JMU isn't eligible for bowl games or playoffs yet). My point is that there's national attention and notoriety given to the teams that can compete and these schools want the national spotlight.
The FBS Power 2 will likely break off from the NCAA (similar to the NAIA). When I say power 2 , I'm referring to B1G and SEC similar to the NFL AFC and NFC. This will leave a watered down field of conferences that will be the current defacto version of the FCS. These teams will participate in bowl games but the power 2 will take the Major New Year's Day Bowls and rotate them for their 12 team playoff.
The NCAA isn't going to allow the formation of another FBS conference, so you will have to be invited.......and that's exactly what many of the teams in the East Coast have done.
There are something like 132 teams in the FCS, but who is left that can really compete? Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Coastal Carolina, JMU and now Delaware are leaving. That means that Villanova is the only CAA member that can compete and Maybe Furman in the So Con. The OVC lost Jacksonville State and took the least competitive MVFC Teams.
So who's actually left to compete for a national title? The MVFC and the Big Sky and that's it. Maybe the SWAC on a long shot but only 1 team per decade.
As I've said before, we are way better than 90% of the FCS. It's not crazy that the MVFC got 6 bids, the competition just isn't there anymore. There are more teams like NDSU and SDSU looking for an invitation to an FBS conference (like the Mountain West).
A lot of these teams are just making the jump without an actual fit (i.e. Delaware). There's so much disparity in the FacS today as well. We have teams in the NEC with 45 scholarships that can be beaten by D2 and NAIA teams and still get an autobid into the playoffs. Then you have teams like SDSU this year, who could beat every team in the Sunbelt, American Conference and half the B1G. In fact, I would argue they could potentially win the B1G West.....and there's evidence to support that; last year SDSU wasn't as good and played Iowa. They lost 7-3 at Iowa but Iowa didn't score a TD. They got 7 points with 2 safeties and a field goal. SDSU is built like a B1G team and they're drastically different from the bottom of the FCS but the same goes for YSU. We could beat many FBS "in name only" schools.
So the FCS is going to be a 2 league division (when it comes to competition).
However, at least for some period of time, teams like JMU that have made the jump will be able to make the 12 team playoff against the legitimate contenders in the FBS because they will take the best team from the group of 5. That may be why a lot of these teams want to go. (That being said JMU isn't eligible for bowl games or playoffs yet). My point is that there's national attention and notoriety given to the teams that can compete and these schools want the national spotlight.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: NCAA football
« Last post by guinpen on November 28, 2023, 07:44:29 PM »I believe that if the NCAA wants to pretend to be in charge, they will create another division for the pretenders and hope that will pacify the big boys.
Logic tells me that the big boys really only care about the big boys and money. Matter of time until they bid adieu to the NCAA. They hold all the cards!
Logic tells me that the big boys really only care about the big boys and money. Matter of time until they bid adieu to the NCAA. They hold all the cards!
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: NCAA football
« Last post by peteonastick on November 28, 2023, 06:22:55 PM »Possible solution based on English Soccer. One level of football amongst all FBs and FCS teams. Conferences regionalized. Then treat it the same as Premier League Soccer. You finish below a certain percent in conference you get relegated to division 3 years (or some agreed upon amount) until you finish in top 2 in your conference to move back to conference. I think it is possible.
Go Guins!
Go Guins!
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Cleveland State next men's basketball game
« Last post by Double ET on November 28, 2023, 06:12:10 PM »They are 5-2 losing 2 road games to Duquesne and Eastern Michigan. They also defeated Ohio U. It will be big test for us. They have 3 bigs (6’9”, 6’9” and 6’11”).
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Last post by InTheYo on November 28, 2023, 06:07:08 PM »We have a contingent heading out to Villanova. Been going to the YSU web page but no info on anything about the trip, tickets, team hotel, tailgating, etc…. Anyone hear anything!?!?Ticket info has been released from Youngstown State:
Go Guins!
https://ysusports.com/news/2023/11/28/football-second-round-playoff-tickets-available-through-ysu.aspx
Hopefully we can easily fill the initial allotment of tickets we have been awarded!