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YSU Penguin Athletics / Committee Agonizes Over Final Picks
« on: November 16, 2011, 12:31:17 PM »
In the FCS Huddle: Committee agonizes over final picks
By Craig Haley, FCS Executive Director

Philadelphia, PA (Sports Network) - We probably wouldn't be true red-blooded American sports fans if we didn't believe we could do a better job than the people who select our NCAA playoff fields.

It's a natural reaction to think some unknown committee locked in a room somewhere doesn't know our favorite team like we do and is out to harm it.

Brace yourself. The committee of 11 athletic directors who will select the 20- team FCS field this weekend is a knowledgeable group that will be thorough and agonize over every last pick. They're as passionate as us. And, no, they aren't out to harm our favorite team.

If you don't think the committee members are just like us, consider the first year that Jim O'Day, this year's chair for a second straight year, was a member of the committee, in 2008.

An AD isn't allowed to be in the room when the merits of his school's team are being discussed. The Appalachian State AD was sent from the room for, as O'Day remembers, about 20 seconds.

When O'Day, Montana's AD, stepped into the hallway, he was out there for about an hour. He was sweating bullets the way we would.

"I wondered if they had forgotten me," he looks back with a laugh.

The fun of talking FCS will turn more serious late Saturday/early Sunday in the final hours that lead up to the 20-team field being announced Sunday (10 a.m. ET, ESPNU).

The committee will begin building their field late Saturday afternoon in Indianapolis, basically have the bracket put together with 10 automatic bids to conference champions and 10 at-large selections after midnight and then analyze the field again Sunday morning to make certain they are comfortable with the selections.

The final couple at-large selections are always the hardest because for each team that gets in the field, three or four will be left bitterly disappointed by their near miss. Last year's final team in, North Dakota State, validated itself by winning two playoff games and then taking eventual national champion Eastern Washington to overtime in the quarterfinals.

"We get together and then we start going through the teams that are eligible," O'Day explained the process. "First you take out your 10 automatics and we list them up on the board. And then we start to list the others that are potential at-large. And that at-large (list) takes some time.

"We go through that process and then we vote and we vote and we vote and we vote. It's a computerized vote. If your team is one of the contenders, then you're knocked out of the voting. They blank you out so that you don't have that opportunity. There's time in between to talk about the different teams and the different conferences and the different sections of the country.

"We look at everything that's available to us. We look at the polls, we look at the rankings, the ratings, whatever might be available to us. The one valuable thing about sitting together in the room is you have 10 (other) people who are from various parts of the country who might know some things that don't necessarily show on paper. For example, in a certain game, did they miss a key player, did they miss their quarterback, did they miss a running back?"

With the playoffs in its second season at 20 teams, after expanding from 16, and likely heading to 24 teams in the future, one of the issues facing the committee is whether it should start to give at-large bids to teams whose win total is below seven against Division I competition. The committee has never done that before.

But perennially strong programs such as Delaware, Wofford and Liberty and perhaps a surging Portland State squad that could move to 8-3 on Saturday face having playoff-worthy resumes that don't include seven D-I wins.

"We're going to have to look at that this year. There's a number of quality teams out there that that might be the case," O'Day said.

"I think we look at that seven-win plateau as a benchmark. It helps us work the field a little bit. It's not one that we absolutely have to hang out hats on. But it is one we give a great deal of respect for as far as criteria. But there certainly can be instances, especially this year when you've got so many teams that are right in that area."

The committee selects the 20 teams before they determine host sites. The five seeded teams are guaranteed to host games through the semifinals unless they play a higher-seeded team. The games involving two non-seeded teams are based on financial guarantees from potential hosts, quality of facility, attendance history and potential and team performance.

Eight teams will be play in the first round on Nov. 26, with 12 earning byes to the second round, which will be held on Dec. 3. The quarterfinals will be played Dec. 9 and 10, the semifinals Dec. 16 and 17 and the championship game will return to Pizza Hut Park in Frisco, Texas, on Jan. 7.


STATS THAT STAND OUT

Where's the blocking in the two conferences for historically black colleges, the MEAC and the SWAC? The top six players in the FCS in tackles for loss are from those two conferences.

The top three rushers in the official NCAA statistics - Indiana State's Shakir Bell, Stony Brook's Miguel Maysonet and Towson's Terrance West - are all averaging at least seven yards per carry. But none of the leaders can match Donovan Johnson's 8.6-yard average at Wofford (88 carries for 756 yards).

Davidson sophomore quarterback Jonathan Carkhuff is averaging 50.1 pass attempts per game.

Morehead State is fourth in the FCS in total offense (459.9 ypg), but has a 2-8 record.

Jonathan Grimes' 7,668 career all-purpose yards at William & Mary is over 2,600 more than any other FCS player.

Jackson State has the fourth-worst turnover margin in the FCS (minus-1.50 per game), but is 8-2.

Of course, Jackson State opponents are completing only 41 percent of their passes (125 of 305).

Bucknell senior cornerback Bryce Robertson has 12 interceptions with one game remaining.

Robertson clearly hasn't faced Cal Poly and North Dakota State. Those two teams have thrown one interception each this season.

Jacksonville senior quarterback Josh McGregor heads into his final game with 115 career touchdowns. The next closest has 66 (Eastern Washington's Bo Levi Mitchell, who has done it in only two seasons).

In 10 games, Idaho State has allowed 64 sacks, 22 more than any other team.

At least Idaho State has senior punter David Harrington. He is averaging 48.8 yards on 51 punts.

Illinois State has converted 14 of 17 fourth downs into first downs (82.4 percent).


FCS AWARDS

Watch lists for some of the FCS national awards were updated this week. The awards page can be found at http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page= cfoot2/fcsawards/index.aspx


FCS PLAYOFF PROJECTION

In the FCS Huddle has been projecting the potential FCS playoff field every week since the preseason. The projections, updated again Wednesday, are an expectation of Sunday's field 20-team following Week 12 action, and not based off current records or rankings. The projection is found at http://www.sportsnetwork.com/fcs/FCS_Bracket.pdf


ON-LINE CHAT FOR PLAYOFFS

Want to discuss the FCS playoff field that will be announced Sunday?

Join fellow In the FCS Huddle writer Sean Shapiro and I for a live chat starting at 9:45 a.m. We will answer questions, take your comments and serve as the ultimate selection show companion.

Visit the FCS section of www.SportsNetwork.com and stay connected throughout the selection show on ESPNU.


AROUND THE NATION

The last time a conference had five playoff teams was CAA Football in 2008. The CAA (Towson, Maine, Old Dominion, New Hampshire and James Madison, or perhaps Delaware if JMU falls out of the picture) and Missouri Valley Football Conference (North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, Illinois State, Indiana State and Youngstown State) have some hope for five representatives ... If Towson wins at Rhode Island or Maine loses to at New Hampshire on Saturday, then Towson (8-2, 6-1) will earn the CAA's automatic bid to the playoffs. The Tigers own wins over Maine, Old Dominion and New Hampshire, which all remain alive for at least a share of the conference title ... It surely won't happen, but the Ohio Valley Conference could end in a six-way tie for the title between Tennessee Tech, Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State, UT Martin, Tennessee State and Murray State, all at 5-3 in conference play. If that happens, the automatic bid to the playoffs would be determined by a blind drawing ... Top-ranked Montana State (9-1) will try to beat No. 7 Montana (8-2) in back-to-back years for the first time since 2002 and '03. The Big Sky Conference believes this is the first-ever meeting when both teams are ranked in the Top 7 ... Ron McBride, 72, will coach his final game when he leads Weber State to Portland State, which hopes to improve its playoff resume ... It can be argued that Week 12's biggest game is Liberty at Stony Brook because the winner will secure the Big South championship and go the FCS playoffs for the first time, while the loser's strong season likely will be over. Both are 7-3 overall and 5-0 in conference play after Stony Brook opened the season 0-3 and Liberty 1-3 ... Charleston Southern's Jay Mills will coach his 100th career game when the Buccaneers head to Presbyterian in Big South action. The Bucs are 43-56 under Mills, but 0-10 this season ... Stephen F. Austin and Northwestern State, both 5-5, aren't just playing for a winning season on Saturday in Natchitoches, La. (as opposed to SFA's Nacogdoches, Texas). The Southland Conference rivals are playing for Chief Caddo, the largest traveling trophy of all the NCAA rivalry games. Standing 7 feet, 6 inches tall and weighing over 320 pounds, the trophy is a wooden carving of the chief of the Native American tribe of the same name, and has been given to the winning team since 1961 ... Harvard has won nine of the last two meetings heading into Saturday's trip to Yale for "The Game". But Yale coach Tom Williams, 0-2 versus Harvard, has done well to shed the mistake of his rookie season in 2009 when he called a fourth-and-22 fake punt from his team's 26-yard line with 2:25 left and it led to the Bulldogs blowing their fourth-quarter lead against the Crimson ... Winner take all: A ticket to the SWAC Championship Game will go to the winner of the Alabama A&M at Prairie View A&M inter-division match- up. Prairie View has won the last six meetings ... There's a terrific battle to be leading tackler in the MEAC. South Carolina State linebacker Donovan Richard has 110, just two more than Howard All-American linebacker Keith Pough ... Lehigh (9-1, 4-0) will shoot for its second straight unbeaten season in the Patriot League when it hosts Lafayette (4-6) in the 147th meeting of college football's most played rivalry ... Holy Cross (5-5) needs a win at Fordham (1-9) to secure a seventh straight winning season ... Bryant's Jordan, with 1,706 rushing yards, is 147 away from surpassing David McCarty's Northeast Conference single-season record of 1,852 in 2008. Bryant will wrap up its season against Central Connecticut State ... The NEC's automatic bid to the playoff will go to Albany (7-3, 6-1) with a win over Sacred Heart (5-5). The Great Danes surely need it because co-leader Duquesne (8-2, 6-1) should beat rival Robert Morris ... How about a winning streak? Valparaiso (1-9), fresh off ending a 29-game losing streak, heads to Davidson (3-7) in its season finale. But the big game in the Pioneer Football League sends Jacksonville (7-3) from one coast to the other to take on San Diego (8-2). The winner will share the league title with Drake (9-2) ... Massachusetts, Texas State, UTSA and South Alabama play their final games on the FCS level on Saturday. Next fall, UMass will join the Mid-American Conference, Texas State and UTSA will be Western Athletic Conference members and South Alabama will play a FBS independent schedule a year before entering the Sun Belt Conference ... Four Southern Conference teams play Southeastern Conference teams on Saturday. The last SoCon win over an SEC team was The Citadel beating Arkansas, 10-3, in 1992. That game helped cost Arkansas coach Jack Crowe, now the Jacksonville State mentor, his job ... Third-ranked SoCon champion Georgia Southern (9-1) received a 25th-place vote in this week's Associated Press FBS Top 25. Yeah, bring on Alabama ... Lastly, get set for the last Great West Conference game. South Dakota (6-4) will visit North Dakota (7-3), with the winner earning a share of the conference crown with Cal Poly.


JUST THE PICKS

Last Week's Record: 43-16 (.729)

Season Record: 530-183 (.743)

X-Predicted Winner

All Times EST

Thursday, Nov. 17

Nicholls State (1-9, 0-6 Southland) at X-Southeastern Louisiana (2-8, 0-6), 8 p.m.

Saturday, Nov. 19

X-No. 11 Maine (8-2, 6-1 CAA) at No. 12 New Hampshire (7-3, 5-2), noon

X-No. 18 Harvard (8-1, 6-0 Ivy) at Yale (5-4, 4-2), noon

X-William & Mary (4-6, 2-5 CAA) at Richmond (3-7, 0-7), noon

Robert Morris (2-8, 2-5 NEC) at X-Duquesne (8-2, 6-1), noon

Central Connecticut State (3-7, 2-5 NEC) at X-Bryant (7-3, 5-2), noon

Wagner (3-7, 3-4 NEC) at X-Monmouth (5-5, 4-3), noon

X-No. 4 Northern Iowa (8-2, 6-1 MVFC) at No. 14 Illinois State (9-1, 6-1), noon

The Citadel (4-6) at X-South Carolina (8-2), noon

Lafayette (4-6, 2-3 Patriot) at X-No. 6 Lehigh (9-1, 5-0), 12:30 p.m.

X-No. 8 Towson (8-2, 6-1 CAA) at Rhode Island (3-7, 2-5), 12:30 p.m.

X-Brown (7-2, 4-2 Ivy) at Columbia (0-9, 0-6), 12:30 p.m.

Samford (6-4) at X-Auburn (6-4), 1 p.m.

X-Cornell (4-5, 2-4 Ivy) at Penn (5-4, 4-2), 1 p.m.

No. 24 Furman (6-4) at X-Florida (5-5), 1 p.m.

Charleston Southern (0-10, 0-5 Big South) at X-Presbyterian (3-7, 2-3), 1 p.m.

X-No. 19 James Madison (6-4, 4-3 CAA) at Massachusetts (5-5, 3-4), 1 p.m.

Morgan State (5-5, 4-3 MEAC) at X-Hampton (6-4, 4-3), 1 p.m.

X-Holy Cross (5-5) at Fordham (1-9), 1 p.m.

X-Butler (5-5, 3-4 Pioneer) at Morehead State (2-8, 1-6), 1 p.m.

Valparaiso (1-9, 1-6 Pioneer) at X-Davidson (3-7, 1-6), 1 p.m.

Sacred Heart (5-5, 3-4 NEC) at X-Albany (7-3, 6-1), 1 p.m.

Missouri State (1-9, 1-6 MVFC) at X-Youngstown State (6-4, 4-3), 1 p.m.

X-Bucknell (6-4, 3-2 Patriot) at Colgate (4-6, 1-4), 1 p.m.

X-Howard (5-5, 4-3 MEAC) at Delaware State (2-8, 0-7), 1 p.m.

UT Martin (5-5, 4-3 OVC) at X-Eastern Kentucky (6-4, 5-2), 1 p.m.

Princeton (1-8, 1-5 Ivy) at X-Dartmouth (4-5, 3-3), 1:30 p.m.

X-Gardner-Webb (4-6, 2-3 Big South) at VMI (1-9, 1-4), 1:30 p.m.

North Carolina Central (2-8, 1-6 MEAC) at X-North Carolina A&T (4-6, 3-4), 1:30 p.m.

X-Murray State (6-4, 4-3 OVC) at Southeast Missouri State (3-7, 2-5), 2 p.m.

X-Coastal Carolina (6-4) at Western Carolina (1-9), 2 p.m.

No. 22 South Dakota (6-4, 2-1 Great West) at X-North Dakota (7-3, 2-1), 2 p.m.

X-No. 13 Wofford (7-3, 5-2 SoCon) at Chattanooga (5-5, 3-4), 2 p.m.

Alcorn State (2-7, 1-7 SWAC) at X-No. 21 Jackson State (8-2, 6-2), 2 p.m.

Campbell (6-4) at X-Georgia State (2-8), 2 p.m.

Minot State (2-7) at X-UTSA (3-6), 2 p.m.

X-South Carolina State (6-4, 5-2 MEAC) at Savannah State (1-9, 1-6), 2 p.m.

X-No. 5 North Dakota State (9-1, 6-1 MEAC) at Western Illinois (2-8, 1-6), 2 p.m.

No. 3 Georgia Southern (9-1) at X-Alabama (9-1), 2 p.m.

No. 7 Montana (8-2, 6-1 Big Sky) at X-No. 1 Montana State (9-1, 7-0), 2:05 p.m.

Southern Illinois (3-7, 1-6 MVFC) at X-Indiana State (6-4, 4-3), 2:05 p.m.

Austin Peay (3-7, 2-5 OVC) at X-No. 23 Tennessee Tech (6-3, 5-2), 2:30 p.m.

Florida A&M (7-3, 5-2 MEAC) vs. X-Bethune-Cookman (7-3, 5-2) at the Florida Citrus Bowl in Orlando, 2:30 p.m.

X-Cal Poly (5-5) at South Alabama (6-3), 3 p.m.

X-No. 9 Appalachian State (7-3, 5-2 SoCon) at Elon (5-5, 3-4), 3 p.m.

X-Jacksonville State (6-4, 5-2 OVC) at Tennessee State (5-5, 4-3), 3 p.m.

X-Alabama A&M (7-3, 6-2 SWAC) at Prairie View A&M (5-5, 5-3), 3 p.m.

Stephen F. Austin (5-5, 4-2 Southland) at X-Northwestern State (5-5, 3-3), 3 p.m.

X-No. 16 Liberty (7-3, 5-0 Big South) at Stony Brook (7-3, 5-0), 3:30 p.m.

X-No. 15 Delaware (6-4, 4-3 CAA) vs. Villanova (2-8, 1-6) at PPL Park in Chester, Pa., 3:30 p.m.

Texas Southern (4-6, 2-6 SWAC) at X-Arkansas-Pine Bluff (5-5, 4-4), 3:30 p.m.

Jacksonville (7-3, 6-1 Pioneer) at X-San Diego (8-2, 6-1), 4 p.m.

X-No. 2 Sam Houston State (10-0) at Texas State (6-5), 4 p.m.

Weber State (4-6, 4-3 Big Sky) at X-No. 25 Portland State (7-3, 5-2), 4:05 p.m.

UC Davis (3-7) at X-Sacramento State (4-6), 5:05 p.m.

X-Eastern Washington (5-5, 4-3 Big Sky) at Idaho State (2-8, 1-6), 6 p.m.

Southern Utah (5-5) at X-Northern Arizona (4-6), 6:05 p.m.

X-McNeese State (5-5, 3-3 Southland) at Lamar (4-6, 2-4), 7 p.m.


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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: MVFC will not get 4 teams into the playoffs
« on: November 15, 2011, 01:17:16 AM »
You don't know wtf you are talking about. 21 and an idiot

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Coaches Poll
« on: November 15, 2011, 01:12:07 AM »
You're funny. Offense wins chapionships!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Message to Hannon
« on: November 14, 2011, 07:46:40 PM »
BTW,

I told Sean Shapiro that the Southern Conference and the MVFC were the best two conferences in FCS.  But they still tend to lean toward the CAA.   I don't understand it.  I am completely objective, if we are not as good, well, then we aren't, but they have too much love.  Total BS if you ask me.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Message to Hannon
« on: November 14, 2011, 07:41:46 PM »
Also thank you for making sure that the internet feed was on.  Much appreciated!

Thanks Denny!  You don't get enough credit.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Message to Hannon
« on: November 14, 2011, 07:34:19 PM »
Thanks Bob! Glad you asked about the rankings issue!  We appreciate it!  You did a good job as usual.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Coaches Poll
« on: November 14, 2011, 04:38:32 PM »
quit your GD b****ing already, no need to make 4-5 threads b****ing, just make all your points in 1 thread

Each thread brings up a different point.  I am done with my b****ing, because I will be watching you b**** in 2 weeks when we don't get into the playoffs.  Wait and see.

As fans we need to bring this issue up.  The Polls have turned into politics as usual in college sports.  The problem is that it has now contaminated this level.


Wait and see whipper snapper.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: MVFC will not get 4 teams into the playoffs
« on: November 14, 2011, 04:34:12 PM »
Yes I know that 21.


How many times have we been left out with an 8-3 record?  Too many is the answer. 7 won't cut it for YSU. We have to win 9

Trust me.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: MVFC will not get 4 teams into the playoffs
« on: November 14, 2011, 03:42:36 PM »
And Patty is to inept, clueless, incompetent to make anything good happen for this conference.  Please go away.  We do not need your services becuase you don't do anything for your teams as it is. 

You are also a stupid person to place a basketball branding on a football conference.  MFVC or MVC or MVFC?  WTF is is?  It should be the Gateway.  That is a way better name.  Way better recognition.

Someone need to make a website called:  www.firepattyviverito.com

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Message to Hannon
« on: November 14, 2011, 03:41:39 PM »
Also wanted to mention that the fans have been around and have seen this type of thing around here.  We never get any respect.  This slight is simply setting them up to leave us out and take less teams from the MVFC.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / MVFC will not get 4 teams into the playoffs
« on: November 14, 2011, 03:39:52 PM »
Mark my words.  The A-holes are getting ready to screw the league out of 4 teams.  We will only get 2 or 3 in the playoffs.  They are setting things up by not ranking us or Indiana State. 

Lets not forget that Indiana State put a beat down on FBS WKU. 

This is exacly what is happening.  I've seen this before.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: TSN Poll
« on: November 14, 2011, 03:32:17 PM »
Damn!! I was wrong for the first time in my life!!  ::)

South Dakota #22?? 3 of their 6 wins were against DII or NAIA opponents.  Just think we have these guy's in our league next year  8)

This deserves its own thread so I started one.  This is a great post.

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This deserves its own discussion. 
We beat 2 ranked teams, one of which was #1 while on the road. 

We have been close in every game we have played and have out played almost everyone.  WE have imporved each week and continue to get better.

WTF?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Coaches Poll
« on: November 14, 2011, 03:18:13 PM »
Crack smokers here too.  Don't mix crack with politics or you get voting that looks like this.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Coaches Poll
« on: November 14, 2011, 03:17:57 PM »
Coaches Poll 11/14
Team (No. 1 Votes) 2011 Record Points Previous Ranking
1. Montana State (18) 9-1 683 2
2. Georgia Southern (2) 9-1 660 3
3. Sam Houston State (8) 10-0 656 4
4. Northern Iowa 8-2 605 5
5. North Dakota State 9-1 579 1
6. Lehigh 9-1 559 6
7. Montana 8-2 536 7
8. Appalachian State 7-3 515 8
9. Old Dominon 9-2 464 11
10. Towson 8-2 454 12
11. Maine 8-2 404 13
12. Wofford 7-3 349 9
13. New Hampshire 7-3 339 10
14. Illinois State 7-3 291 16
T14. Harvard 8-1 291 14
16. Liberty 7-3 291 14
17. Delaware 6-4 223 17
18. Jackson State 8-2 198 18
19. Central Arkansas 8-3 155 25
20. James Madison 6-4 150 19
21. Tennessee Tech 6-3 147 20
22. North Dakota 7-3 119 22
23. Indiana State 6-4 102 23
24. South Dakota 6-4 71 24
25. Norfolk State 9-2 63 NR
Others receiving votes: Portland State (35); Furman (31); Youngstown State (19); Drake (18); San Diego (18); Jacksonville State (17); William & Mary (11); Brown (9); Jacksonville (9); Stony Brook (9); Southern Utah (9); Florida A&M (8); Eastern Washington (4); Alabama State (3); Eastern Kentucky (3); Albany (1); Cal Poly (1); Stephen F. Austin (1).

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