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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU football d Coordinator leaving?
« on: January 26, 2022, 10:51:45 AM »
From the little I have gathered, he sets very high expectations for his staff and they work their tails off.  I have also heard the same about Tressel.  The difference could be that work ethic today vs 30 years ago is much different.  Just my $.02  Don't know the reason, but I know how Phillips feels about recruiting. He is a hard charger and expects 10 hours a day of recruiting.  10 Hours!

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Football Transfer Additions
« on: January 22, 2022, 03:34:03 PM »
Also you need years stacked on years to be competitive.  Phillips is doing this.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Football Transfer Additions
« on: January 22, 2022, 03:33:13 PM »
You can thank Pelini for the bad recruiting years.  Phillips has a very nice cla$$ this year.  These are additions to the main cla$$.  We will be a step change better next year.
Geez people, give these kids a chance!  North Dakota State is in a different universe then we are right now!  Don't compare our recruiting cla$$es to them right now!  Let them grow and see what we have!  Be thankful we still have a football team the way the crowds and population have dwindled!  With that said I don't like losing to the Indiana States, Western Illinois and South and North Dakota's of the world!  If we would have won those games, the conversation would be a whole lot different as we would have 5-5 or 6-4 record!  Like indicated above, we have to win to get better players, but don't judge these kids on previous results!  It is not fair to them!

I agree

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2022 Recruiting Cla$$
« on: December 17, 2021, 02:16:04 PM »
I talked to a buddy of mine from Hubbard and the OL that DP offered and then pulled it away from him is Alex Goodrich 6'5" 290 lbs and is one of the 5 WKBN blocks of granite this year.

He told me DP also offered TC Caffey RB from Hubbard a PWO offer, so did Ohio State and that's where he is going. If DP would have offered him more than just a PWO he would have been playing at YSU.

My buddy said DP already burnt that bridge to Hubbard. Hubbard's HC played for Tressel during the championship years. There was a connection there but not anymore from what my buddy told me.

My daughter is being recruited for volleyball by several D1 schools.  My experience is that the fit for the athlete is the most important factor in the decision process.  Of course, having a coach with a relationship to some of these schools brings greater interest and influence on my daughter, but at the end of the day, my daughter has to make her decision based on the offers she has.  My point here is that the fit isn't only the volleyball program.  The coaches have spent a significant amount of time evaluating her based on her fit with the incoming cla$$, her educational goals, and her likelihood of going to the program and staying with them without entering the transfer portal. 

Therefore, I don't understand how burning bridges matters other than their high school coaches influence.  And I will tell you that my kid is an independent thinker and is not easily influenced by what her coaches say.  It's all about what she wants to do.  If she hinted at all about not being interested, they would probably pull an offer in a split second. Just saying that I don't put much stock into the statement about the coaches not getting along in today's world of social media.  My daughter knows many of the top athletes in volleyball all across the country and they all talk about the best atmospheres created by the coaches.  That may be the single greatest recruiting tool.  This isn't the old days where a kid really didn't know what they were getting into.  There has to be a mutual benefit to the relationship.

One more thing...she doesn't care about the record of the team because she believes that she will make the team better and give them a chance to win as long as she's on it.  I would have to say that many athletes have similar egocentric tendencies, otherwise they wouldn't be one of the best in their area regardless of whether or not they could be competitive at the highest level

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2022 Recruiting Cla$$
« on: December 17, 2021, 06:59:07 AM »
As I said earlier, he does an excellent job recruiting.  He needs some time.  He knows what he needs.  Every transfer he's brought in has made an impact.  I trust him.  Watch his press conference on YouTube under the Youngstown State Athletics channel. He tells you everything you need to know.  He's going to be a great coach and has to overcome bullsh** Covid restrictions.  He needs time.  You will choice we could have had as a coach, especially with our budget.  He wants to be hereand he is from the area. 

Can't get the 5'7 local kids from Mooney to compete with NDSU and others in our difficult conference.  He knows that.

No one is talking about Mooney, DP pulled an offer from one of the 5 blocks of granite on WKBN.  He's 6'5" 290 from Hubbard. A local kid, what gives?

I think you missed my point.  My point is that there isn't enough local talent to build a team to compete with the best in the country.  We simply don't have the population, and the top athletes in the FCS are now as good as FBS teams.  When Jim Tressel coached at Youngstown State the talent level of the FCS was not as high as it is today.  I'm not saying that all teams in the FCS have FBS level talent, I am saying that the top teams are capable of beating power five schools any weekend.    Youngstown does not have the population to support that level of talent.  When you factor in that Youngstown has lost 6% of its population every year for decades, they're just isn't enough talent statistically due to lack of population density.  I think they should take local kids when they can, but we can't fill teams up like Pellini did by offering to local kids from his former high School that will struggle to win games in our conference that has more than one National title contender. 

My point was that the recruiting footprint needs to be expanded ( with a focus on local talent first ) so that we can get kids that will help us compete against the best teams leading to a national championship.  Pelini failed in this area.  You can see the size difference on the field.  We look like a high school team playing a college team when we face NDSU and SDSU and UNI etc.  Now did Pellini bring in some good players?  Yes from time to time, but overall he was lazy and the year that he went out and recruited himself was his best cla$$. Otherwise it was easy to take the undersized kid from Mooney to fill the roster spot (I have nothing against Mooney this isn't really about that school, I just use that school as an example because historically they've had great football so has Ursuline, Fitch, Boardman etc.).  Another point that I would like to make about this, is that if you bring on a kid that is undersized, but he's a good kid and you offer that kid a four-year scholarship......and then you pull that scholarship to replace that kid with a better athlete from outside of the area, it has 2 bad effects.  First, it is unfair to the kid losing his scholarship that he was promised because the coach didn't choose the right kid in the first place.  Second that kid and his family are local and they could have the community turn on the school for what they perceive is a bad moral decision to offer scholarship and then pull it.  What do you think that would do to local support? 

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2022 Recruiting Cla$$
« on: December 16, 2021, 08:19:56 PM »
As I said earlier, he does an excellent job recruiting.  He needs some time.  He knows what he needs.  Every transfer he's brought in has made an impact.  I trust him.  Watch his press conference on YouTube under the Youngstown State Athletics channel. He tells you everything you need to know.  He's going to be a great coach and has to overcome bullsh** Covid restrictions.  He needs time.  You will choice we could have had as a coach, especially with our budget.  He wants to be hereand he is from the area. 

Can't get the 5'7 local kids from Mooney to compete with NDSU and others in our difficult conference.  He knows that.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: UIW / SHSU
« on: December 05, 2021, 12:51:30 PM »
They lost the game on a goal line QB run that was short of the goal line by inches

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2022 Recruiting Cla$$
« on: December 01, 2021, 05:06:11 AM »
I think they will bring in a good group.  I heard they are working their tails off on bringing in a high impact recruiting cla$$ that includes some transfers.

As I said before, it's going to take time.  But if he gets a really good cla$$ it could be sooner.

This far the kids he's brought in were excellent.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: playoffs
« on: November 22, 2021, 01:25:39 PM »
The playoffs are a joke.  You have teams that spend the bare minimum in the smaller leagues less schollys etc.  take out the Ivy League and HSBU schools that have their own bowl that takes out another league.  As for the rich get richer I donít think making the playoffs makes you money.  And again being in a conference where we are always going to be a bubble team is competitive and economically a disaster as our track record has shown in the MVFC.

What I meant by rich get richer is not really  it s about the caliber of players.  That's what I meant.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: playoffs
« on: November 22, 2021, 07:06:49 AM »
The FCS is so watered down that suggesting that it's the toughest schedule you can recall is a stretch.  Although the MVFC is well represented, I don't believe that the teams are more talented.  Actually, I think the overall talent of the middle-of-the-road teams in the conference is less talented then in the past

I see your perspective.  However, have you considered that the rich get richer?  What I'm saying here is have you considered that the best teams are getting better making the middle of the road look worse? 

When I look at NDSU, SDSU and UNI I see teams that could bully several power 5 teams....even mid level power 5.  And they have.  They've even beaten them.  Do you think the 2007 Appalachian State team could beat the NDSU teams of the last 5 years?  I don't think they would have the same level of success.  They had exceptional speed on those team's but they weren't going to consistently win against more physical teams. The MVFC has to be the most difficult conference at a y level from a parody standpoint. NDSU could play with just about anyone in the country with that defense.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: SALUKIS
« on: November 21, 2021, 02:56:40 AM »
To expand on the points that Penguin68 made, coaching inexperience or poor judgment cost us wins against Western Illinois and North Dakota. I firmly believe that we would have outscored Indiana State had Crenshaw not been forced out of the game. We could have actually won six games.

The offensive line could not pa$$ block against anybody, but they opened enough holes for McLaughlin and Crenshaw in the five conference games in which they were not hopelessly overmatched.

Phillips stated many times that he intends to build the team from the bottom up by recruiting freshmen. I generally support that approach, but six transfers could do wonders for the morale of both the players and the fans.  Two on the oline, two on the dline, and two linebackers, please. With our less demanding schedule next season, such additions could perhaps make us competitive.

Good points.  As I have stated all year. 

#1.  Phillips was handcuffed a bit going in.  I would ask anyone, who would have done better?  The one thing that Phillips has over Pellini (and was evident early) was the kids never quit any game all year even if they were hopelessly overmatched.

#2.  As I've been saying all year, don't go at this with high expectations and be patient.  This isn't an easy fix because it involves the lines and it takes time to develop them.  Without transfers it will take 5 full years to get the required depth with our scholarship level.  As my Italian friend Bobby says "Thanks Pelini,  You filled the roster full of 5'7" Degos from Mooney and now we suck."  Isn't that insightful?  He hardly watches anymore.

#3 Phillips has a philosophy that is similar to Tressel and it starts on the defensive side of the ball with a defense oriented team..  Our secondary would have been one of the best in the FCS if we had a DL and a few more LB's to help them out. When you have to cover for 8 seconds, which I observed multiple times against the Salukis, it's almost impossible to be efficient in stopping the pa$$.  Secondly, the kids he did bring in are pretty good, and  they will be exceptional with more development and time.  What I know about his offensive philosophy is that we will run the ball first.  I agree with what he wants to do here.  However, I did see them try to work with what they've got in the pa$$ing game.  Notice how may pa$$es Crenshaw was releasing the ball as soon as he got throwing to a spot to reduce protection time.  They did a lot there as coaches, especially Crenshaw's footwork improvement.  That was done to help the OL deficiencies.  Another year in the weight room for both sides of the ball will do a lot of good.  What I will say in comparison to Tressel is that both appear to try to fit an offense that fits their people. We had option teams with Tidwell and pocket pa$$ers with Ryan etc.  I see similarities in a lot of areas. 

We were blown out a lost games for 3 reasons this year.  #1. We didn't match up well with the best teams athletically on the LOS (will be fixed through weight training and recruiting as he has said multiple times).  #2  we didn't have the depth when we were in some of those games and faded out in the second half several times.  #3 Phillips wasn't going to change his coaching philosophy or his game plan because they weren't working in a specific game.  He wasn't hasty and always allowed them time to work out (or not work out) in a game.  He simply identified what they thought our strengths were and tried to game plan to them.  We're we out coached in a few games with our inexperienced staff?  Yes, but Phillips is just not going to throw out his entire philosophy and in the middle of a game he's losing.  He's just not built that way.

We should have won 6 games.  If you watch any significant amount of football, you would see that against the Dakota teams we look like a high school team playing a college team on the LOS.  Just to be in the other Valley games shows you the grit of the kids playing.  I would rather see that than watch a Pelini team give up in the second quarter because they got down by 2 scores and folded like a house of cards.  That never happened, even if we were overmatched.  Could they have done better?  Sure. But.....

#4. Remember you have a young team that is inconsistent.  And some of that also goes on an inexperienced coaching staff.  They've got a lot to work on in the off season, but everything is easily identifiable.  I think they did a good job this year all things considered because I kept my expectations low.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: ND game day
« on: November 06, 2021, 08:43:03 PM »
Depth was the issue.  We faded in the 4th quarter.  That's the real story.  Thanks Pellini.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: RABBITS
« on: November 01, 2021, 05:34:56 AM »
Ok.  Let's be fair about this.

Heacock was given Tressel recruits, let it slip and eventually got  kids that could compete in the mid tier of the conference. 

Wolford improved on that.  His starting point was much higher than what Phillips starting point is.

Pelini took Wolford's recruits and a d went to the NC game but ran the thing right into the ground.  The recruiting was at the lower tier if the conference.  Pelini was the greatest mistake made by the AD.

I watched SDSU and YSU.  That game had little to do with coaching.  The play calling by both teams is not great.  I don't even know what the strength of SDSU's offense was, except that they had better athletes on the line.  They didn't impress me.

Did you notice the size mismatch on the LOS?  It was pretty incredible.  We looked like a HS team playing a college team.  It was drastically different.  And their second string was causing as many problems as their first string.  They had the luxury of rotating the entire LOS to keep people fresh.  We don't have that.  Phillips has siad repeatedly, we have to recruit the LOS.  That's what he is trying to do. 

Seriously, can it get any worse?  Pelini didn't just leave a bare cupboard in terms of the level of talent, he damaged the program in many other ways.  The 'Pelini Rule' went into effect over his sideline antics and it got put all over the national news and ESPN.  And while Eichorn was an ******** at Nebraska, he was probably afraid of the sociopath head coach.

My personal opinion is that we've got a long way to go and calling for Phillips head is not the right move. If we had pressure at the LOS our defense would be special.  You cannot leave the secondary exposed like we do.  We given them all day to throw the ball.  There are way less blown coverages than under Pelini.  We were good for at least 5-7 plays a game with Pelini.  Now we may have 1-3 and some of that is due to youth.

Those thinking that because he was a principal he's not qualified need to look at the qualifications and behavior of other coaches.  Ed Orgeron will be available from LSU. Would you want him?  Bobby Petrino has his history, but all of his teams have been inconsistent and lacked a defense capable of winning a title.  What's different now?  Nothing. SDSU'S coach has been there for more than 2O years.  Do you think his teams are coached exceptionally well? I don't.  They aren't bad, but they aren't spectacular.  NDSU"s coaching has been some of the best because they play to the strength of their skill positions, however they ALWAYS have the line play.  ALWAYS.  That's the foundation of their teams.

As I said before.  Long way to go.  Be patient.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: RABBITS
« on: October 29, 2021, 09:19:18 AM »
The Rabbits are coming off of a bad loss.  They know they still have an outside chance at a seed but also want to host a home playoff game.  Prepare for an a$$ kicking.  As I've said before, we need patience.  This is going to take time.

On another note, consider that last season was short and it was the first time the other Valley coaches got to see our schemes.  They are prepared and we are probably more banged up.  Bad combination.

YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: ISU
« on: October 24, 2021, 10:40:00 AM »
I will provide my observations.

1. When we lost Crenshaw the game was essentially over.  Indiana State stacked the box and dared us to throw.  Craycraft was inconsistent and that should be expected.  He also did not win the starting position.  He was third behind Waide.

2. The line play is the root of the issue.  They need time for development.

3.  The team is relatively young which equates to being highly inconsistent.  Most programs don't have to deal with the amount of youth all at one time. 

4. They are focused at recruiting linemen in alignment that we need to win in this league. 

5.  The money is important, but at the end of the day money is not the only thing needed to get good recruits.  North Dakota State doesn't even have their own stadium they rent it.  What matters more is relationships and trust in coaching.  If you look at the players Phillips has recruited, they've been closer to what you want versus any of Pelini recruits.  Remember his hands are tied to some degree on the rate of change.  But I think Phillips is patient. I happen to think that Phillips is very similar and an older version of PJ Fleck.  Fleck is far more nuanced, but they have similar attributes.  Interestingly both coached with Tressel.  I believe PJ has one of the Tressels' working for him.  Look at how long it's taken PJ fleck to make Minnesota respectable. Minnesota would have been one of the top teams in the west had they not lost their running back. They don't have the depth yet, but their starters can play with anyone.  And their offensive line is one of the best in the Big ten.

When we lost Crenshaw to that lower body injury we just don't have the depth and consistency to be able to beat teams.  It's just going to take time.  The only way to speed it up is transfers.  However, with the number of local recruits Pellini put on the team, if they let these kids go it will have a negative effect on YSU as a whole in terms of perception in the community.  They could quickly lose even more support permanently.  Right now there's a bunch of fair weather fans that will turn out if they start winning again.  Many of the diehards from the 90s are in retirement homes or dead.

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