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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: App State vs Montana

« on: September 01, 2013, 02:58:23 PM »

AF,

Just some friendly advice.  This forum is not like the high school boards where 90% of the posters are uninformed.  The veterans here know a great deal about Youngstown State, FCS football, and the Horizon League.  So when you say something silly, for example, that YSU can make money from FCS playoff home games, don't be shocked when ValleyTalk or someone else calls you out on your mistake.  Hey, your opinions are welcome but don't present them as facts, and then get argumentative when someone corrects you.

Well first of all its not a mistake when its the truth, second i know more about YSU, FCS, and the MVC then most if not everyone around here, playing for YSU and still having connections in the AD will do that for you. You probably shouldn't call people out who know more then you, just a heads up

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Morehead State

« on: September 01, 2013, 02:54:42 PM »

after this weekend YSU needs to look alot better or i think this is going to be a long and possible a losing season.

Indiana State even put up 35 on Indiana
NDSU beat KSU
Southern Illinois only lost by 8 to Illinois
NIU beat Iowa State
Illinois State put up 28 on Ball State
SDSU beat a Dayton type school 55-14


The confrence looks as strong as it ever has this year in week 1

Don't sugarcoat the Indiana State outcome. Indiana was favored by 24 and they won by 38 over the Sycamores. They gave up 73 points to one of the absolute worst Big Ten programs over the past decade.

SIU against Illinois wasn't a huge surprise. Spread was only 17 in that one and Illinois is not that good.

We may be well in the hunt until November until we play the three best teams in the league, UNI, NDSU, and SDSU.

who knew telling the truth was sugar coating anything  Who cares ? does that change the fact they scored more on a B1G then YSU did on a non-scholarship team? Indiana scored 49 on Ohio State last year and only lost by 3, Indiana has a good team this year

SIU and Illinois is still an FCS vs FBS game

We wont even be over .500 by November if they play like they did vs Dayton, many teams in the confrence played alot better then YSU

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Morehead State

« on: September 01, 2013, 12:11:41 PM »

after this weekend YSU needs to look alot better or i think this is going to be a long and possible a losing season.

Indiana State even put up 35 on Indiana
NDSU beat KSU
Southern Illinois only lost by 8 to Illinois
NIU beat Iowa State
Illinois State put up 28 on Ball State
SDSU beat a Dayton type school 55-14


The confrence looks as strong as it ever has this year in week 1

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: App State vs Montana

« on: September 01, 2013, 11:55:17 AM »

In fairness to Strollo, his hands are tied when the calendar calls for an eleven game schedule.  As long as we play the blood game, we need to buy two home games to have a total of six.  That means buying two games from the likes of the NEC and the Pioneer, the only teams that are of such low stature that they won't require a return game.
However, in those calendar years that allow twelve games, such as this year and next, we should have tried harder to produce an attractive schedule.  One blood game on the road, one non or partial scholarship opponent at home, and four leagues games each at home and on the road.  The final two games, one at home and the other on the road, should have been with full scholarship FCS foes.  A two year contract with each school fulfilled in 2013 and 2014.  Not the quality of Montana, however.  The MVFC is too strong, but two worthy opponents.  That would have still left us with six home games each year, and our fans would not be mocking the ooc home games. 

We drew flies against Dayton, and it will be much worse against Morehead and Duquesne.  Maybe for the next cycle Strollo will get it.  He sometimes does get things....eventually.

Pretty terrible excuse. We dont need 6 home games, we need playoff games and playoff games at home will bring double the money a game vs Dayton will, at minimum.

False. Playoff games have always historically drawn less than regular season games. After bidding on home games, any revenue you bring in is usually minimal at best.

False. the previous years are 100% No indication of the following years results. Next

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: App State vs Montana

« on: September 01, 2013, 04:38:13 AM »

In fairness to Strollo, his hands are tied when the calendar calls for an eleven game schedule.  As long as we play the blood game, we need to buy two home games to have a total of six.  That means buying two games from the likes of the NEC and the Pioneer, the only teams that are of such low stature that they won't require a return game.
However, in those calendar years that allow twelve games, such as this year and next, we should have tried harder to produce an attractive schedule.  One blood game on the road, one non or partial scholarship opponent at home, and four leagues games each at home and on the road.  The final two games, one at home and the other on the road, should have been with full scholarship FCS foes.  A two year contract with each school fulfilled in 2013 and 2014.  Not the quality of Montana, however.  The MVFC is too strong, but two worthy opponents.  That would have still left us with six home games each year, and our fans would not be mocking the ooc home games. 

We drew flies against Dayton, and it will be much worse against Morehead and Duquesne.  Maybe for the next cycle Strollo will get it.  He sometimes does get things....eventually.

Pretty terrible excuse. We dont need 6 home games, we need playoff games and playoff games at home will bring double the money a game vs Dayton will, at minimum.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: September 01, 2013, 04:33:54 AM »

For those who feel that Dayton was a worthy opponent and that we really did not play that poorly, you might want to ponder today's results.  In the Pioneer League pre-season coaches poll, San Diego was picked first, with Butler second, and Dayton fifth.  Today, Cal Poly beat San Diego 38-16 while South Dakota State mauled Butler 55-14.  That is why some of us are worried....very worried.

and you add in NDSU and NIU got FBS wins this weekend and SIU only lost by a TD and YSU looks even worse

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: September 01, 2013, 04:32:16 AM »

Chris Carter wasn't a speedster either but he is in the Hall of Fame.

Carter was also 6'4 and had hands of glue along with being an elite route runner, Wheary doesn't have any of those

Speed and size not a necessity to be a good receiver according to Steve Largent who was 5'11"--hopefully Hess will rebound and throw the ball to the receivers--not sure how sure-handed they are yet but I saw them open numerous times last game.

Largent has over a 15 YPC average in his career,  He had some pretty good speed, much faster then Wheary.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: MSU Game

« on: August 31, 2013, 12:14:50 AM »

Welp about 5 minutes left in the game, MSU scored 2 TDs on both sides of the ball, but their D didnt look real impressive as WMU OL is terrible and slow

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 11:32:13 PM »

AFGuin: don't think they have to change the overall spread philosophy but there are just sometimes where you need to just throw the ball. I don't think they allow that enough.  Arizona utilized Matt Scott last season very creatively in the spread but still allowed for ample opportunities for him to step back and throw. Miss St. did something similar with Tyler Russell (prob a better comparison as Russell has a greater similarity to Hess than Scott). These teams didn't exit the spread offensive philosophy at any point in the game... But there were situations where they said "we need a big pass" and they allowed (and relied on) their QB to simply step back and make a big play.

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Sounds like what YSU has done the last 3 years

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Non YSU Sports / Re: Fairless High QB Hunter Wells (2014) commits to YSU

« on: August 30, 2013, 10:42:21 PM »

14-21 150 yards 3 or 4 TDs 0 Ints assuming he had all the passing attempts tonight
Fairless won 42-8

F—Mahaffey 8 run (Kelly pass from Wells)
F—Olmstead 13 pass from Wells (Bair kick)
F—Weyandt 18 pass from Wells (Bair kick)
F—Wickham 19 pass from Wells (Bair kick)

the 1st TD says run and pass so a screen maybe?

1640 yards roughly away from the stark county all time passing yards leader

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: MSU Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 10:40:16 PM »

13-7 MSU at Half.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: MSU Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 10:28:33 PM »

7-7 3 minutes til halftime

Like i said, MSU has no offense

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 10:28:10 PM »

Because thats a requirement in the offense. you cant name me a spread offense that doesn't play their QB like that

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: MSU Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 09:42:47 PM »

Big bad MSU struggling with Western scUM  up 7-0 in the 2nd with about 8 minutes til half IIRC in a lighting delay

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dayton Game

« on: August 30, 2013, 09:41:23 PM »

Chris Carter wasn't a speedster either but he is in the Hall of Fame.

Carter was also 6'4 and had hands of glue along with being an elite route runner, Wheary doesn't have any of those