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Title: RABBITS
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 27, 2021, 02:05:38 PM
SDSU favored by 17.5

https://madduxsports.com/college-football-lines.php

Penguins hope to snap the streak of offensive possessions ending in a pick at 4. Please excuse the spelling errors in the write up by this higher learning institution.

https://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2021-22/releases/sdsu-preview
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: dwj on October 27, 2021, 02:45:01 PM
No defense, no OL, and back up QB 17.5 may be a little low.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: goodnews on October 27, 2021, 03:13:04 PM
DWJ you forgot to include the coaching staff
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: peteonastick on October 27, 2021, 04:14:44 PM
I am looking for one of these potential playoff teams to look past the Penguins and get themselves in a trap game looking forward to a more important game the following week.  Granted, we have a long way to go but there is potential, as we have seen, for them to put 4 quarters together.  I think that is some of the only hope we have. Weather this Saturday looks miserable so maybe that will equal some things out.  Can only hope and keep looking at the positives each week.  I think there were spots all year that we played like a playoff team, just do not have the 50 players needed depth wise to run this further and allow the coaches to push the envelope on schemes and Xs and Os.  Just like the old football saying, "It's not the Xs and Os, but the Jimmy's and Joe's!"  Right now we don't have enough of the Jimmy's and Joe's to get the job done on a consistent basis.  We have to look to the portal in the off season, develop the talent we have and recruit like crazy!!

GO GUINS
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: IAA Fan on October 28, 2021, 07:07:51 AM
I don't know. I am not sure that any of these teams are used to more traditional YSU football, which is what we have with Craycraft, so if there is a chance of an upset, this week will be it.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: Wick250 on October 28, 2021, 01:52:24 PM
We all know that our defense is not merely inadequate, it is terrible.  My question is how did this happen? Basically we are playing the same guys that performed at a surprisingly high level during the winter. And even if you consider the coaches to be incompetent, the same gang was calling the shots less than nine months ago. I have never seen a defense with so many returning starters deteriorate so rapidly and so completely. If anybody has an explanation, please share it.

As far as this game is concerned, SDSU seems to be having their own defensive issues when they play a good offense.  Of course, with Crenshaw either gone or neutralized by injury, our offense is now not much better than our defense. We are going to experience four horrendous weeks of football.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: penguinpower on October 29, 2021, 09:19:18 AM
The Rabbits are coming off of a bad loss.  They know they still have an outside chance at a seed but also want to host a home playoff game.  Prepare for an ass kicking.  As I've said before, we need patience.  This is going to take time.

On another note, consider that last season was short and it was the first time the other Valley coaches got to see our schemes.  They are prepared and we are probably more banged up.  Bad combination.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on October 29, 2021, 11:25:52 AM
  Crenshaw out for tomorrow.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: Penquin68 on October 29, 2021, 07:05:40 PM
Crenshaw and Davidson can throw the ball, probably better than Crenshaw. But they probably can't evade the rush nearly as well so with our O line troubles, we would seem to be in major trouble. This is especially true if we get into obvious passing situations like 3rd and long etc. Also without Crenshaw our running game will suffer since they only need to be concerned with 8. I hope the O coordinator is not totally predictable to help these qbs. Also would like to see the running back from Liberty who is bigger and stronger to help the run game and pass blocking. And when the rush get to the qb, lets not panic and throw interceptions like last week. We can't be so predicatable for us to have a chance.

Our D has not been good all fall. Hope they can do better tomorrow and help. Probably too much to ask for the offense to help them with long drives etc. On paper this looks bad from all angles.

Lets hope for a good game from all YSU players and coaches to keep the game interesting.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: peteonastick on October 29, 2021, 07:19:47 PM
Crenshaw and Davidson can throw the ball, probably better than Crenshaw. But they probably can't evade the rush nearly as well so with our O line troubles, we would seem to be in major trouble. This is especially true if we get into obvious pa$$ing situations like 3rd and long etc. Also without Crenshaw our running game will suffer since they only need to be concerned with 8. I hope the O coordinator is not totally predictable to help these qbs. Also would like to see the running back from Liberty who is bigger and stronger to help the run game and pa$$ blocking. And when the rush get to the qb, lets not panic and throw interceptions like last week. We can't be so predicatable for us to have a chance.

Our D has not been good all fall. Hope they can do better tomorrow and help. Probably too much to ask for the offense to help them with long drives etc. On paper this looks bad from all angles.

Lets hope for a good game from all YSU players and coaches to keep the game interesting.

Heard Becker and Yobue are both out also. I would agree. On paper looks bad. Can’t give up the big plays and be close in the 4th. If not. Early exits.

Go Guins!
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: The YO Show on October 30, 2021, 06:26:59 AM
I didn't listen to press conference or check the paper or anything. Is Jaleel going to be back or is he still injured?
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: Dmorton on October 30, 2021, 02:17:20 PM
Doesn't matter, our offensive coordinator is going to call the same stupid off tackle play!
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: Double ET on October 30, 2021, 02:28:02 PM
Doesn't matter, our offensive coordinator is going to call the same stupid off tackle play!

Doesn’t matter, our defensive coordinator called same stupid defense plays. We have no answers to all their offensive plays.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: Dmorton on October 30, 2021, 04:32:02 PM
Well!  At least we have a football team!  I don't know what Akron has!
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 30, 2021, 05:47:16 PM
Worst coaching staff in the country.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: goodnews on October 30, 2021, 06:42:54 PM
Imagine the recruits that wont be coming here because of these blood baths.  Nearly 600 yards on offense for SDSU and 83% (10-12) on 3rd efficiency.  How long do we have to listen to "we have to give them time"?  Now we can listen to the head coach say "I need to get better".  This is a JOKE!
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: IAA Fan on October 30, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
SDSU never punted. What else do we say about defense? I noticed that Davis got in a little trouble after his first touchdown is anybody know anything? What’s your not supposed to throw?
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: Double ET on October 30, 2021, 08:05:29 PM
SDSU never punted. What else do we say about defense? I noticed that Davis got in a little trouble after his first touchdown is anybody know anything? What’s your not supposed to throw?

Believe it or not, our players are better than our coaching staff. They probably told him not to throw those touchdown passes because they could be intercepted………just like the guy you have just replaced. Lol
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: Penquin68 on October 30, 2021, 08:05:47 PM
Total beat down today on both offense and defense. Both lines did not match up at all. Major trouble trying to recruit freshman and try to grow them into the size and strength to play with these guys. But we were in the national championship game a few years ago with Pelini and mostly Wolford's recruits. With the MAC and others recriting within 200 miles of us heavily, I think we need to use the portal to supplement our recruiting. Look what Michigan State did with adding 17 or so tranfers this year. They are undefeated and beat Michigan today.

At the beginning of the season after watching a few scrimmages I thought Crenshaw was 1 and Davidson 2 in the qb rankinig. After today I feel this is still true. Number 5 was hurting and could not elude the rush with our O line protection. Davidson did much better. I know it was the 2nd half, but he still looked better at evading the rush and throwing down the field. Not sure what will happen next week at the qb postion, but I think Davidson deserves a chance to show what he can do.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: dwj on October 31, 2021, 09:56:58 AM
Noticed a lot of recruits on the sideline prior to the game.  I'm sure they were impressed with the beat down and wanting to sign with YSU.  Anyways it was Halloween weekend the band was in costumes and our team came out dressed as a D1 football team.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: guinpen on October 31, 2021, 12:04:19 PM
Noticed a lot of recruits on the sideline prior to the game.  I'm sure they were impressed with the beat down and wanting to sign with YSU.  Anyways it was Halloween weekend the band was in costumes and our team came out dressed as a D1 football team.

Or maybe the recruits will see this as a good chance to get in and get some early playing time.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: goodnews on October 31, 2021, 02:27:33 PM
More D3 talent on the way.  Strollo should be ready reward the Principal with a raise and extension.  How long is his contract?
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 31, 2021, 06:27:51 PM
Listen folks. This is what you get when you want to save money and let a well known booster donate money and get his guy as head coach. He was not hired for his football resume.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: guinpen on October 31, 2021, 09:01:04 PM
And will this well-known booster remain un-known?
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: YSU1 on October 31, 2021, 09:33:22 PM
To this day I do not understand the Pelini hire.  He had no intentions of staying at YSU so why waste the time.  He did nothing for the football program.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: penguinpower on November 01, 2021, 05:34:56 AM
Ok.  Let's be fair about this.

Heacock was given Tressel recruits, let it slip and eventually got  kids that could compete in the mid tier of the conference. 

Wolford improved on that.  His starting point was much higher than what Phillips starting point is.

Pelini took Wolford's recruits and a d went to the NC game but ran the thing right into the ground.  The recruiting was at the lower tier if the conference.  Pelini was the greatest mistake made by the AD.

I watched SDSU and YSU.  That game had little to do with coaching.  The play calling by both teams is not great.  I don't even know what the strength of SDSU's offense was, except that they had better athletes on the line.  They didn't impress me.

Did you notice the size mismatch on the LOS?  It was pretty incredible.  We looked like a HS team playing a college team.  It was drastically different.  And their second string was causing as many problems as their first string.  They had the luxury of rotating the entire LOS to keep people fresh.  We don't have that.  Phillips has siad repeatedly, we have to recruit the LOS.  That's what he is trying to do. 

Seriously, can it get any worse?  Pelini didn't just leave a bare cupboard in terms of the level of talent, he damaged the program in many other ways.  The 'Pelini Rule' went into effect over his sideline antics and it got put all over the national news and ESPN.  And while Eichorn was an ******** at Nebraska, he was probably afraid of the sociopath head coach.

My personal opinion is that we've got a long way to go and calling for Phillips head is not the right move. If we had pressure at the LOS our defense would be special.  You cannot leave the secondary exposed like we do.  We given them all day to throw the ball.  There are way less blown coverages than under Pelini.  We were good for at least 5-7 plays a game with Pelini.  Now we may have 1-3 and some of that is due to youth.

Those thinking that because he was a principal he's not qualified need to look at the qualifications and behavior of other coaches.  Ed Orgeron will be available from LSU. Would you want him?  Bobby Petrino has his history, but all of his teams have been inconsistent and lacked a defense capable of winning a title.  What's different now?  Nothing. SDSU'S coach has been there for more than 2O years.  Do you think his teams are coached exceptionally well? I don't.  They aren't bad, but they aren't spectacular.  NDSU"s coaching has been some of the best because they play to the strength of their skill positions, however they ALWAYS have the line play.  ALWAYS.  That's the foundation of their teams.

As I said before.  Long way to go.  Be patient.




Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 01, 2021, 06:29:07 AM
And will this well-known booster remain un-known?

Not at all.
Title: Re: RABBITS
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on November 01, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
  Chief is 100% correct.  Phillips resume was very weak.  Only thing he could hang his hat on was that he worked at Iowa State and Cincinnati under 2 successful coaches.  But he role at both places was minimal.  Tressel needs to own some of this.  I am not a fan of Strollo, but this hire is on Tressel.