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Several, and I mean several basketball players entering the transfer portal on both the men's and women's side.
DQ
Hamperian
Ganley
Mary Dunn
McKenah Peters
Taylor Petit
Very strange to see so many players leaving.....
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Chief,
Do you know how many of them entered the transfer portal because they were not being offered scholarships by YSU?
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Trying to put some perspective on this and not thinking it's only a YSU issue I looked at the other teams in the Horizon league on verbalcommits and found the following as of 3/13/2021.
Green Bay 3 transferring
Milwaukee 2
NKU 1
Oakland 1
Ft. Wayne 3
Robert Morris 2
UIC 3
Not sure how many are walkons vs scholarship players.
This is the nature of college sports in 2021 and probably more for a player who wants playing time now than possibly waiting for their chance with work and patience.
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Chief,
Do you know how many of them entered the transfer portal because they were not being offered scholarships by YSU?
I would assume that is the case for Hamperian and Ganley. They weren't gonna see much playing time with the new kids coming in.
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Owen Long has committed to YSU from the portal.
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https://youtu.be/yF39FoF12ug
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He never missed a shot in the video. Actually he shot 47% from the field and 42% from 3. Likes to lean back on his shot.
Was wondering what made coach go after him. Third year in a row YSU got a D2 transfer. Last year was Greyson Kelly and the year before we got a guy who was from an Northeastern school. Never actually came here.
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Owen Long has committed to YSU from the portal.
There is something wrong with this picture. Our D-1 guys are transferring out and D-2 guys are transferring in.why can’t we get some D-1 transfers?
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I am not sure if I have heard of D2 guys transferring up. It probably has happened but never heard much about it
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I am not sure if I have heard of D2 guys transferring up. It probably has happened but never heard much about it
I thought Owen Long (as reported by Chief) who transferred in was from a D-2 program. I actually Googled the school.
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I am not sure if I have heard of D2 guys transferring up. It probably has happened but never heard much about it
Well we had 1 last year and got another this year so it's happening.
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Looking at the roster as listed on the website, we have 12 players (5 seniors and 7 Freshmen).
What happened to all the sophomores and Juniors?
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Looking at the roster as listed on the website, we have 12 players (5 seniors and 7 Freshmen).
What happened to all the sophomores and Juniors?
That was part of the problem this past year. Had all of the seniors plus DQ when he was healthy, but really no experience off the bench other than Hamperian. We had all those freshman and losing so many practices and non-conference games really hurt. Now with juniors DQ and Hamperian gone, they were the only 2 non-seniors or freshman.
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Hope you guys know what you’re talking about I watched all the YouTube videos on the recruits that were mentioned and I have to say rather underwhelming
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Christian Bentley transferring out.
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Gee will they have a team next year
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Christian Bentley transferring out.
He was already a senior. Didn't expect him to stay. I had hoped he would have contributed more this year, but his playing time really decreased. Even when DQ was out, he really didn't play much
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Christian Bentley transferring out.
He was already a senior. Didn't expect him to stay. I had hoped he would have contributed more this year, but his playing time really decreased. Even when DQ was out, he really didn't play much
I was actually surprised that he didn’t enter the transfer portal earlier. With his diminished playing time this year, obviously, he was not in the game plan.
If several starting seniors (Covington, Naz, Acuchie) decided to stay, he might not be offered a scholarship. It would not surprise me if we will lose couple more marginal players if scholarships are not available.
I hope we could pick up couple D1 senior transfers via the portal.
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The transfer portal hurts the mid majors and lower. it will be hard to hang onto kids and build a program.
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The transfer portal hurts the mid majors and lower. it will be hard to hang onto kids and build a program.
Hurts occasionally, helps occasionally. We are loosing DQ which is a huge hurt, but we picked up RB Jaleel McLaughlin LB Grant Dixon and a host of others that have really helped the FB team. We also have WBB and MBB transfers coming, not proven yet, but may be helpful as well.
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Announced today Michael Akuchie is returning! Have to wonder now about the rest of the seniors especially Naz & Covington
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https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/tevin-olison
New commit.
As a senior at Cumberland college he averaged 23 points a game with a 51% shooting percentage. 41% from 3. Nice video.
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https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/tevin-olison
New commit.
As a senior at Cumberland college he averaged 23 points a game with a 51% shooting percentage. 41% from 3. Nice video.
Like it's been said many times before, I don't understand why we can never get any D1 transfers
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And speaking of non D1 transfers, here's another one, Collen Gurley, coming out of D3 Mount Union https://www.cantonrep.com/story/sports/2021/04/02/collen-gurley-transfers-mount-union-youngstown-state-ncaa-mens-college-basketball-horizon-league/7065639002/
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Good find Mud. That's four lower division transfers in the last two years. Morgan and Bentley were D1 transfers.
We'll just have to let it play out and see if these guys work out. Where was Akuchie's announcement ?
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Good find Mud. That's four lower division transfers in the last two years. Morgan and Bentley were D1 transfers.
We'll just have to let it play out and see if these guys work out. Where was Akuchie's announcement ?
From the YSU basketball tweet:
Senior Michael Akuchie has announced that he will return for his 5th year of eligibility.
Akuchie, who averaged 9.9 ppg and 8.3 rpg, scored in double figures 15 times last year, had 7 double-doubles.
He also ranked 5th in the HL in rpg.#GoGuins
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And speaking of non D1 transfers, here's another one, Collen Gurley, coming out of D3 Mount Union https://www.cantonrep.com/story/sports/2021/04/02/collen-gurley-transfers-mount-union-youngstown-state-ncaa-mens-college-basketball-horizon-league/7065639002/
For context, Mount union likely had their best basketball team in program history in 2020 before the pandemic ended the season and Gurley was a major factor.
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And speaking of non D1 transfers, here's another one, Collen Gurley, coming out of D3 Mount Union https://www.cantonrep.com/story/sports/2021/04/02/collen-gurley-transfers-mount-union-youngstown-state-ncaa-mens-college-basketball-horizon-league/7065639002/
For context, Mount union likely had their best basketball team in program history in 2020 before the pandemic ended the season and Gurley was a major factor.
I don’t know if it was due to the defense ( or lack of), he looked better than any of our past D1 transfers.
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Another one, Chris Shelton from Hampton is coming in. 6-4 guard who shot 48% from 3 this year.
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How many guards do we need?
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I am not sure if I have heard of D2 guys transferring up. It probably has happened but never heard much about it
Long looks like a good D2 scorer, and I hope that translates to a mid major D1 scorer, but I damn sure don't want anybody else in this video. Frankly I'm the only guy who noticed he was left handed. Not one defender seemed to note such an obvious fact!
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyzGB0eVIAAQ-0c?format=png&name=small
Garrett Covington is coming back. :D
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Good news.
As I posted before, all 3 seniors were still listed on the roster after DQ’s departure. I was hoping this might be an indication that they could decide to stay.
Then, Akuchie announced that he would stay. Now Covington decided to come back. Let us hope that Naz would decide to join them. We need these 3 musketeers for next season to take another run for the league championship.
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You do know Naz could play football!
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You do know Naz could play football!
He'd make a nice TE and I know his hands are better than what we are running out there now!
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Excited about Akuchie & Covington coming back. Now if we can just keep Naz, I think the team can compete for a title. Sure would be nice if Thomas & Kelley also returned.
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You do know Naz could play football!
He'd make a nice TE and I know his hands are better than what we are running out there now!
Are you kidding m? We need him at QB.
I would like to see the poor 6’1 LB trying to tackle him on a sweep run-pitch option.
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You do know Naz could play football!
He'd make a nice TE and I know his hands are better than what we are running out there now!
Are you kidding m? We need him at QB.
I would like to see the poor 6’1 LB trying to tackle him on a sweep run-pitch option.
Honestly, his best position would be edge rusher.
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You do know Naz could play football!
He'd make a nice TE and I know his hands are better than what we are running out there now!
Are you kidding m? We need him at QB.
I would like to see the poor 6’1 LB trying to tackle him on a sweep run-pitch option.
Honestly, his best position would be edge rusher.
Agree.
But we desperately help in qb position NOW.
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You do know Naz could play football!
He'd make a nice TE and I know his hands are better than what we are running out there now!
Are you kidding m? We need him at QB.
I would like to see the poor 6’1 LB trying to tackle him on a sweep run-pitch option.
Honestly, his best position would be edge rusher.
Agree.
But we desperately help in qb position NOW.
Yes, I actually like our D, and I like is a TON more than I thought I would before the mini spring season.
I also predict that Mark Waid will be the career passing yardage leader when he graduates YSU.
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Jamir Thomas is returning as announced on YSU MBB Twitter!
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I hope Jamir starts on opening night. Don't want to see him sitting on the bench unless he's in foul trouble.
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Naz is gone...
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Naz is gone...
Yes, WFMJ just reported on the 6 pm news that Naz had entered the transfer portal.
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Wow. Thought with the other seniors coming back that Naz would join them. Great player and wish him much success. Not sure we'll ever see another triple double like he had against Oakland.
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Wow. Thought with the other seniors coming back that Naz would join them. Great player and wish him much success. Not sure we'll ever see another triple double like he had against Oakland.
Let’s hope he doesn’t transfer to Oakland and have a triple double against us. Lol
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Wow. Thought with the other seniors coming back that Naz would join them. Great player and wish him much success. Not sure we'll ever see another triple double like he had against Oakland.
Let’s hope he doesn’t transfer to Oakland and have a triple double against us. Lol
I would worry more about Cleveland State...
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DQ has committed to Fordham
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Fordham went 2-12 last season and finished last in the A-10. Atlantic 10 is a step up from the Horizon but surprised he left YSU for a losing program.
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DQ probably figures that he will surely start, be a big star, and enhance his chances at the NBA. Honestly, somebody needs to sit down with this young man, tell him point blank that he is not NBA material, and put an end to his delusions.
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DQ probably figures that he will surely start, be a big star, and enhance his chances at the NBA. Honestly, somebody needs to sit down with this young man, tell him point blank that he is not NBA material, and put an end to his delusions.
I like DQ (he is a hell of a good player) and I wish nothing but the best for him.
Therefore, I really don’t want to throw him under the bus. With that being said, I thought Kendrick Perry was a better player than DQ. If KP still couldn’t make it into NBA, I doubt very much DQ could ......just my 2 cents
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DQ exceeded all my expectations during his playing career at YSU. The lingering ankle problem set him back this past season and was a problem his sophomore year. Hopefully he'll get that under control and make a name for himself in the A10. He should have a nice career and make a great living playing overseas.
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You said it! Overseas, not NBA material as of yet! I doubt that will change. A lot of that has to do with his ankle injury. For my two cents, both should have came back to YSU.
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KP was a better athlete but I think DQ is the better overall player as he's a true point guard.
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Figured Naz was coming back with Covington, Akuchie & Thomas returning.
Really surprised with DQ going to Fordham. Outside of being in NYC, just wonder on the allure there. As it was mentioned, they were 2-12 last year and the Atlantic 10 isn't a huge jump in exposure from the Horizon League.
The ankle injury and COVID obviously changed things, but I just felt like all last year those were an odd dynamic/disconnect with him. Wish him the best and maybe with a healthy ankle, he can get back to where he was his sophomore year, but like the others said he'll probably be playing overseas.
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Figured Naz was coming back with Covington, Akuchie & Thomas returning.
Really surprised with DQ going to Fordham. Outside of being in NYC, just wonder on the allure there. As it was mentioned, they were 2-12 last year and the Atlantic 10 isn't a huge jump in exposure from the Horizon League.
The ankle injury and COVID obviously changed things, but I just felt like all last year those were an odd dynamic/disconnect with him. Wish him the best and maybe with a healthy ankle, he can get back to where he was his sophomore year, but like the others said he'll probably be playing overseas.
NYC would be a negative in my book. With their record it must be a case where getting playing time is more important than winning.
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The Atlantic 10 is a far superior league than the Horizon League (not just a "step up"). That being said, Fordham stinks and I'm surprised he selected them. Does Q still have two years of eligibility left?
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KP was a better athlete but I think DQ is the better overall player as he's a true point guard.
Yes, DQ was a better point guard than KP. I believe KP was a much better shooting guard than DQ.
When at YSU, KP had the uncanny ability to drive toward the hoop and pull up hitting the mid range jumper. He could also shoot the 3 balls. That is probably why he is doing well in the European league where shooting the 3 ball is a must (since zone defense is allowed).
This season, DQ has not shown me his ability to effectively run point and to consistently hit the outside jumpers (possibly due to his injuries).
If he could not recover his shooting touch, I wonder if he would be successful in the European league, let alone the NBA.
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Dwayne Cohlll a 6-2 guard from the University of Dayton has transfered to YSU. He missed last season with an injury.
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Cheick Traore is transfering per verbal commits.
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Cheick Traore is transfering per verbal commits.
I didn’t even know he was in the transfer portal. We need to get some bigs transferring in from the portal. I hate to see us playing with 5 guard’s in the game next year
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Michael Akuche 6-8 sr
Jamir Thomas 6-8 sr
William Dunn 6-8 soph
Josh Irwin 6-7 frosh
Jacori Owens 6-9 frosh
Two offers on guys both 6-8 in the transfer portal. Hopefully we'll get one of them.
There's a little size.
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Cheick Traore is transfering per verbal commits.
That's disappointing. With him just being a freshman, thought he had some potential and was hoping he'd stick around and improve each year. For a big man, he actually had a nice shot it appeared from the FT line as well.
Has anyone heard if Greyson Kelley is returning?
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So what is the real problem here for both women and men?
Coaches?
Facilities?
Lack of fan support?
Lack of winning?
Lack of things to do near campus?
Other?
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Guinpen, I will take a shot at this.
First, separate the men and the women. The women lost their entire non-conference season to Covid and struggled in the league around the .500 mark. They did lose some players in the transfer portal, including an exceptionally good freshman. But Barnes has brought in transfers that, collectively, might be better than what he lost. That includes a 6'4" center from Duquesne and a 6'1" D2 All-American from Wheeling. After watching McLaughlin run, I don't dismiss D2 All-Americans anymore. The women also have a winning tradition that goes back decades and better fan support than any Ohio MAC program.
Our living facilities used to consist of one ancient dorm. Now modern apartments surround the campus. The campus environment seems to be just fine for the Olympic sports teams that win consistently. So for the men, it all comes down to either history of losing, facilities, fan support, or coaching.
Decades of losing might be a big problem. I don't know how much recruits consider history. Fan support is generally poor, but actually better than half of the teams in the Horizon League. The gym has a high school feel with the retractable bleachers, but the locker rooms and conference room for the players are now top notch. Hopefully, in two years the seating will be upgraded.
That leads us to coaching. Calhoun is a big upgrade from Slocum in many ways, including public relations. But the performance this year was below where it should have been. But Calhoun and every coach gets their "covid" pass this year. If he does not win next year, we have a problem.
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I think the free agent sytem (transfer portal) is not just isolated to YSU but is to all of college basketball. If you just completed your freshman season and sat the bench and you see a bunch of new recruits then maybe it's a good option. I know a lot of us want to see these guys work and develop but w're not privy to the dialogue that the coach and the player are having. It looks like everyone is going to lose some and gain some. Not sure we're bringing in anyone as good as naz & DQ but collectively with all the newcomers and what is returning they might just surprise us.
Mud, I'm also curious about Kelly's status.
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Naz is off to the ACC and picks Clemson.
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Naz is off to the ACC and picks Clemson.
Can’t really blame him for leaving YSU for Clemson. Hope he gets playing time.
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Naz is off to the ACC and picks Clemson.
Easier to understand then Fordham
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Naz is off to the ACC and picks Clemson.
Easier to understand then Fordham
They might promise DQ in the starting lineup or extensive playing time.
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Naz busted his butt for four years for the Penguins. Can't blame the guy for going to a higher level.
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Naz busted his butt for four years for the Penguins. Can't blame the guy for going to a higher level.
Not to mention that he had made tremendous improvements to his game at both ends of the basket (as well as his efforts) each year at YSU. Clemson clearly recognized that. His hard work pays off.
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Naz a solid player, but he will struggle to get playing time at Clemson. They were a tournament team a year ago with many key players returning. This is a huge jump in class from the Horizon League to the ACC. I may be wrong, we will see, but I see him getting limited minutes.
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Naz a solid player, but he will struggle to get playing time at Clemson. They were a tournament team a year ago with many key players returning. This is a huge jump in cla$$ from the Horizon League to the ACC. I may be wrong, we will see, but I see him getting limited minutes.
He would get more playing time if could reliably hit those 10-12 feet jump shots which he was unable to do at YSU.