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Title: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: peteonastick on February 27, 2021, 08:13:36 AM
Game 2 of the silly season. Things to look for:
1. QB Play- how quick will Waid step in and take the reigns? 
2. Will the O line progress enough to pass block in the first half so we can complete a pass.
3. We will see a much better QB today. Can the secondary continue to cover like they did last week.
4. Will McLaughlin be the go to RB?
5. +7.5 is a surprising line. Can we make UNI 0-2 on season!
6.  Coaching- I like the run game but need to open it up a bit more early.
7.  Tight Ends -  can’t say that enough. We have two good ones. Use them!! 

Go Guins!
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 08:20:33 AM
Article on pregame analysis from today’s Tribune/ Vindy:

There isn’t much of a prize for Youngstown State after hanging tough with the top-ranked team in the nation for the better part of four quarters last week.


The Penguins do return home, but they welcome No. 5 Northern Iowa in Game 2 of an odd eight-game Missouri Valley Football Conference schedule that makes every game even more important.

YSU (0-1, 0-1) was within striking distance of North Dakota State until midway through the fourth quarter, but the Penguins are going to need more offense to compete with the Panthers (0-1, 0-1).

UNI is led by standout quarterback Will McElvain, a first-team, all-conference pick. The Panthers, who suffered a heartbreaking last-second loss to South Dakota State in Week 1, also boast a stout defense, with nine returning starters and three all-MVFC picks.

YSU gained just 171 total yards in its loss to the Bison. First-year coach Doug Phillips is hoping for a better rushing attack (51 yards last week) as he waits for a starter to emerge among quarterbacks Mark Waid, a Girard graduate, and Joe Craycraft. One of the two is going to need to spark a stagnant YSU offense.


QUARTERBACKS

YSU — Waid and Craycraft were mostly ineffective as they were harassed by a dominant NDSU defense all game. Waid did finish 8-of-11 passing for 75 yards and one touchdown. He also ran for a team-high 26 yards, but sustaining drives was difficult against one of the nation’s top units. Phillips reiterated that both QBs will likely split time against UNI.

UNI — McElvain is arguably the best quarterback in the conference. He set a freshman school record for passing yards with 2,778 in 2019, throwing for 20 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He’s rather athletic, too, with one of his best strengths being his ability to avoid a pass rush to extend plays and then throw for big gains. His accuracy wasn’t great as a freshman (53.1 percent), but he was 19-of-29 last week against a tough South Dakota State defense.

EDGE — UNI

RUNNING BACKS

YSU — It was tough sledding for just about anyone who touched the ball for the Penguins on Sunday. Starter London Pearson ran for 5 yards on 10 carries. Jaleel McLaughlin added just 25 yards on nine attempts. Some of that has to do with NDSU’s dominant defensive line, and some of it has to do with the young, inexperienced offensive line of YSU. Either way, the Penguins, who have long been built around their rushing attack, must find ways to establish a run game moving forward.

UNI — The running game was non-existent against the Jackrabbits in Week 1 as the Panthers ran for 28 yards on 25 carries. Starter Dom Williams ran for all 28 yards. Tyler Hoosman, UNI’s second-leading rusher in 2019, was injured and his status is up in the air again this week. The Penguins struggled against a potent NDSU rushing attack, so it’ll be interesting to see how they hold up against a weaker run game.

EDGE — YSU

WIDE RECEIVERS

YSU — Natavious Payne has been one of the Penguins’ go-to receivers dating back to the 2019 season (when they last played). He wasn’t listed as a starter (and still isn’t), but C.J. Charleston did not participate in the game for an undisclosed reason, so Payne got the start. The speedy sophomore made two catches for 39 yards and continued to show the game-breaking speed he flashed two years ago. Jake Coates only caught one pass, but it went for a 12-yard TD. Florida Gators transfer Malick Mbodj was shutout in his first start as a Penguin.

UNI — The Panthers may be without first-team, all-conference receiver Isaiah Weston, who was injured early in last week’s matchup with SDSU. He would be a huge loss for McElvain and the passing game. He made 43 caches for 1,053 yards and 10 TDs in 2019, averaging 25 yards per grab. UNI does have a little bit of depth, and Phillips said he thinks the Panthers are a bit faster than SDSU on the outside. YSU played very well against the pass last week, but this could be a bigger test.

EDGE — Even

OFFENSIVE LINE

YSU — This is the area Youngstown State is hoping for the most growth. Four of the Penguins’ five starters had never played a down of college football prior to last week, which is a big problem for a unit that’s built on communication. Their first test was one of the best defensive fronts in the FCS, and UNI isn’t a slouch either. They’ll need to be a bit more consistent for YSU to find some offensive rhythm.

UNI — Northern Iowa endured a big loss when offensive tackle Spencer Brown decided to forgo his final season and enter the NFL Draft. The Panthers have a little experience in Trevor Penning, Justin Peine, Erik Sorensen and Matthew Vanderslice, all of whom are at least 6-6 and 300 pounds, but it’s just not the same without an anchor like Brown. YSU’s front four is probably the strength of the defense, so this will be a key matchup.

EDGE — UNI

DEFENSIVE LINE

YSU — Defensive end James Jackson had nice first start, with six tackles and one tackle-for-loss. DeMarko Craig was another player expected to contribute but did not participate. The sophomore had a huge first season in 2019, so his absence would be a big loss. Cardinal Mooney graduate Vinny Gentile played well against NDSU with five stops. Look for more from Antoine Cook at defensive end. The junior switched from tackle to DE and should improve as the year goes on. The line will play a pivotal role in keeping the elusive McElvain in the pocket.

UNI — UNI’s front is led by All-American nose tackle Jared Brinkman, who had seven sacks and 14.5 tackles-for-loss as a junior. Maybe more impressive was his 83 tackles — an incredible number for a defensive lineman. Defensive end Caden Houghtelling (6-3, 255) and tackle Tim Bucher (6-2, 300) are also veteran players that make this another formidable front for a young YSU offensive line.

EDGE — UNI

LINEBACKERS

YSU — Linebackers Grant Dixon and Griffin Hoak were busy against the Bison, who ran the ball 40 times. They tied for the team high in tackles with eight apiece. McElvain could make life tough on them as it’s hard for LBs to know when to stay in coverage and when to come up and make a tackle on the QB. The Panthers ran for a paltry 28 yards last week, but after YSU allowed 243 to NDSU, that could be an area UNI tries to exploit.

UNI — The Panthers’ linebackers are some of the best in the MVFC, led by first-team all-conference selection Bryce Flater. He led UNI in tackles with 143 in 2019, adding eight TFLs, one interception and a forced fumble. Spencer Cuvelier was the third leading tackler with 88 stops. The lone newcomer is Eric Mooney, who switched offense to defense.

EDGE — UNI

SECONDARY

YSU — A young YSU secondary played exceptional against the Bison, who passed for just 74 yards. Three of the Penguins’ four defensive backs are first-year starters, but they kept star wide receiver Christian Watson in check. They could have a tougher task against UNI, which has a quicker overall receiving corps and a veteran QB. Strong safety Zaire Jones has been one of YSU’s best defenders since his arrival from Vanderbilt in 2018.

UNI — Corner Omar Brown is another All-American on a defense that returned nine starters from two years ago. The 6-foot, 195-pound Brown made six interceptions (second most in the MVFC) and also had 77 tackles. Fellow corner Austin Evans is another solid player. He had 73 stops and two picks in 2019. Safety Korby Sander was a starter in 2018 before sitting out 2019 with an injury.

EDGE — UNI

SPECIALISTS

YSU — Coach Phillips said first-year punter Paddy Lynch, an Australian native, was reading a book about football on the plane trip to Fargo, North Dakota. He must have learned something because he had a strong day, averaging 42 yards on six punts. Aside from a 26-yard return on a punt, YSU’s coverage units were solid. The kicking game could be tough considering the unpredictable playing conditions.

UNI — Place kicker Matthew Cook was a first-team all-conference pick after making 19-of-24 field goals in 2019, with a long of 50. Nate Murphy is a solid punter, averaging 44.6 yards on six kicks against the Jackrabbits.

EDGE — UNI

PREDICTION

This is another brutal matchup for a young YSU team, especially on defense.

Nine starters return for a stout UNI defense that boasts all-MVFC players at each level. That makes for another difficult test for a vastly inexperienced offensive line.

The Penguins’ offense must find some rhythm, and YSU will again rely on what has the makings of an impressive defense. It will be tough to hold McElvain down for four quarters though.

UNI, 24-10

     

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 27, 2021, 08:45:51 AM
Gotta love the misinformation in the paper lol... Anyway.

Gonna be a tough game. Still some growing pains to be had for the Guins.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 09:40:26 AM
Gotta love the misinformation in the paper lol... Anyway.

Gonna be a tough game. Still some growing pains to be had for the Guins.

Hey I’m just happy for the in-depth coverage. Might be a little generous, but then again the NDSU game exceeded my expectations.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: YSU1 on February 27, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
send pictures of the taiigate lot
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Buddy on February 27, 2021, 11:11:22 AM
Is there any TV coverage for the game?
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 27, 2021, 12:00:39 PM
Is there any TV coverage for the game?


Just radio and Espn+
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 12:20:37 PM
Is there any TV coverage for the game?


Just radio and Espn+
Watching on ESPN+. Down 3 on the 1st NIU possession .
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 12:27:09 PM
Is there any TV coverage for the game?


Just radio and Espn+
Watching on ESPN+. Down 3 on the 1st NIU possession .

I saw WBCB listed as well but can’t verify, I have it on ESPN+,
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
Defense is hanging tough so far, bend dont break on the first drive kept them to a field goal  and held them to a punt on their second possession. This QB is very good too.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 27, 2021, 12:39:12 PM
This team must not practice throwing the ball very much.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 12:40:27 PM
Not much passing but we are getting the ground game going. McLaughlin had a couple of nice runs for first downs in this drive. 

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 12:41:37 PM
I'm thinking our young offensive line must really struggle to pass protect, the only pass attempt so far this game resulted in a sack. I'm assuming that's why we are seeing the playcalling we are
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 12:43:25 PM
Yeah make that two sacks. Doesn't help that last week's and this week's opponents have fantastic pass rushes
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 12:56:03 PM
We have to at least pretend to pass to setup the run. It is hard to run with 8 defenders guys in the box.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 01:02:48 PM
Nice job defense, holds UNI to another field goal. Should have gotten off the field earlier, but really impressed by how well they are limiting the big plays and tightening up in their own territory.

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 01:11:17 PM
Why did we continuously play the ?Craycraft and Peterson combination
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 01:22:38 PM
This YSU secondary looks night and day compared to last year. I know we're giving up some yardage, but with as much time as #2 has had to throw I can't believe we've done so well containing the explosive plays.

And a nice INT to boot! 
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 01:31:07 PM
Agree.
The secondary looked so much better than that of the last two coaches.

It was not a surprise that we did not score. But, only giving up only 6 points in the first half was tremendous.
Keeping #7 and #8 on offense for here on out should be seriously considered.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 27, 2021, 01:54:59 PM
That kick was not pretty!
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ucfpengbuck on February 27, 2021, 02:07:10 PM
A coaches job is not to make the players happy but to have the players make you happy.

Please stick with Wade & Mclaughlin.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 27, 2021, 02:07:49 PM
That punt was not pretty
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 02:17:51 PM
A coaches job is not to make the players happy but to have the players make you happy.

Please stick with Wade & Mclaughlin.
Either that or trying to prove that their game plan (no matter how faulty) was right. When you are behind in the game, if you don’t score, you can’t win. It’s time to throw away the experiment and change the game plan in order to win the game.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Buddy on February 27, 2021, 02:28:44 PM
15 yard punt......
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 27, 2021, 02:31:54 PM
Why are we punting like that, kicking on the run?
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 02:35:04 PM
Why are we punting like that, kicking on the run?

Australian style punt. Rugby / Australian rules football kicks like that and that’s what our punter played
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 27, 2021, 02:40:47 PM
Why are we punting like that, kicking on the run?

Australian style punt. Rugby / Australian rules football kicks like that and that’s what our punter played

Thanks for the answer but it is not working.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 02:45:22 PM
Why are we punting like that, kicking on the run?

Australian style punt. Rugby / Australian rules football kicks like that and that’s what our punter played

Thanks for the answer but it is not working.

The big thing I don’t like about the style is the long rollout, I believe roughing the kicker doesn’t count once they get outside the pocket
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 27, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
Never happy to lose but I am disappointed with the game, was hoping to see more improvement with the offense. Never a fan of alternating qb's no rhythm, pick your guy and go with him.

Thought that the D did a nice job, spent a lot of time on the field.

NDSU down by 10 late in the 3rd, if they lose to SIU our loss to them looks worse.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 03:12:56 PM
Never happy to lose but I am disappointed with the game, was hoping to see more improvement with the offense. Never a fan of alternating qb's no rhythm, pick your guy and go with him.

Thought that the D did a nice job, spent a lot of time on the field.

NDSU down by 10 late in the 3rd, if they lose to SIU our loss to them looks worse.
I was just about to comment on NDSU, I was skeptical that they had a fall off this year but you nay sayers might be right.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 03:13:39 PM
Why are we punting like that, kicking on the run?

Australian style punt. Rugby / Australian rules football kicks like that and that’s what our punter played

Thanks for the answer but it is not working.

The ARF punters are actually also runners/passers/receivers. The advantage of using an ARF punter is that they can take off and run for the first down.

In ARF, the punter has to run away from the defenders (out of necessity) in order to kick the ball because the is less set protection scheme than the American football.

In American football, there is a well designed protection scheme. Since it is much easier to punt the football standing still than running, hence we don’t see too many ARF punters in American football.

Why are we doing it. Who knows.

Well, it is not working for us because we don’t have the right guy.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 27, 2021, 03:23:27 PM
Craycraft does nothing for this team. He needs to sit and Waid needs to be the guy from here on out.

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: goodnews on February 27, 2021, 04:22:29 PM
WOW, 64 yards passing! It sounds like we have bigger concerns then Crenshaw's foot work. 
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 27, 2021, 04:59:27 PM
NDSU got beat 38-14 by SIU... yikes. Next week is gonna be rough. You guys were right about this not being a typical NDSU team.

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 27, 2021, 05:27:01 PM
Why are we punting like that, kicking on the run?

Australian style punt. Rugby / Australian rules football kicks like that and that’s what our punter played

Thanks for the answer but it is not working.

The ARF punters are actually also runners/pa$$ers/receivers. The advantage of using an ARF punter is that they can take off and run for the first down.

In ARF, the punter has to run away from the defenders (out of necessity) in order to kick the ball because the is less set protection scheme than the American football.

In American football, there is a well designed protection scheme. Since it is much easier to punt the football standing still than running, hence we don’t see too many ARF punters in American football.

Why are we doing it. Who knows.

Well, it is not working for us because we don’t have the right guy.


Thanks to you guys for explaining it to me, I can see where there is an option to run but that would be rare. My main concern is helping field position. Distance and hang time!
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 27, 2021, 05:34:52 PM
Looked like a high school offense out there
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Wick250 on February 27, 2021, 05:58:34 PM
This is by far the worst offensive line in our DI history. They are incapable of opening holes for our backs and pass block so poorly that our quarterbacks have no chance to throw downfield. Unfortunately, that line is the one component of a football team for which there is no quick fix. It will take at least three years of recruiting and development. This is Bo's legacy after his five year tenure.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Double ET on February 27, 2021, 06:38:01 PM

Thanks to you guys for explaining it to me, I can see where there is an option to run but that would be rare. My main concern is helping field position. Distance and hang time!
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There are a few ARF P/K guys in the nfl also.
Some of these guys were fast and strong and they have run down and tackled punt returners. Many of ARF guys started out playing rugby (tackling without pads). With pads, they are not easily intimidated by punt returners.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: The YO Show on February 27, 2021, 06:50:06 PM
Don't forget, our single returning offensive lineman was out this game too. I don't know that it improves it all that much but I think our offensive line wasn't the big issue this game. Our wide receivers also didn't get open much, but I don't know if I can really make much of a sense of it from the few passes we threw.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Penquin68 on February 27, 2021, 07:34:45 PM
Playing two qb's is not working. As I said last week, we need Waid due to his running ability and size with such a poor offensive line. And at rb we need the new guy compared to our two from last year.  And they need to play to get more comfortable. It reminds me of when Haycock was the coach and we played OSU. He played everyone and we lost big. It was almost like a scrimmage where we weren't trying our best to keep the score as good as it could be. Looked similar today. And our punter really didn't help.  It seems he got a pass until his 2nd or 3rd shank and we got back to the guy from last year who did well.  There is no doubt that we need more good players and that will take time, but playing everyone doesn't give us our best chance in these games. Maybe we are playing this as spring practice.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 27, 2021, 09:18:07 PM
I am not football savvy enough to know if it is a case where the talent is not there or they just need more playing time together. At this point you could make a case for each.

Having all those newbies on the O-line at the same time has to be a major challenge  for the players and the coaches.

Pick the best player for each position and let them get game time together. Treat the spring season as an extended spring game and get ready for the fall.

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: goodnews on February 27, 2021, 10:58:06 PM
Can someone explain to me how/why Peterson and his puppet son are still on the coaching staff?  What has he done to improve the O-Line since his arrival?  It takes YEARS to create continuity and thats a$$uming you have recruited players that can play at this level.  This program is 4 or 5 years from competing and thats a$$uming the recruiting vastly improves.  If this staff can't develop talent forget it. Not to mention the majority of the coaching staff hasn never coached at this level.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: penguinpower on February 28, 2021, 06:02:08 AM
1. Pelini left the cupboard bare.  He was a terrible coach that disliked recruiting worse than Heacock.  It's going to take time.  I like what I see.
2.  The offense is terrible because of the line and lack of WR at the moment but mainly the line.. DP has said that his team will be built upon the OL and DL using 3 sport athletes and such on multiple occasions.
3.  DP has something like 22 redshirt freshman on the defense.  Because the offense isn't getting it done, the defense is getting great experience because they are on the field for twice the number of snaps as they should be.  I believe that the defense is already at a playoff levelnand still has upside.  If they played half the snaps I think you would see half the scores.  That would mean if we had an even remotely competent offense our Defense would be giving up 11.5 points per game on average with half the snapss and this doesn't account for the terrible field position caused by the offense and special teams.
4.  If you want to win games right now, I think you have to use Waid because his legs give you the best chance with the OL situation.  However, that comes with ruining your QB (as we've seen with every running QB.  So I say build it for the long term and get experience using this bullsh** season that will have an asterisk next to it for eternity.  You think NDSU was planning to have Lance opt out for the draft?  The national champion will have an asterisk next to them because if Lance had stayed they would have been better off, but the draft was too important and enough pussified schools run by libtards opted out (i.e. indiana state) and had this bullsh** spring season.
5.  I missed this game. First time in years.  I have no expectations for this scrimmage season.  Maybe this is the year that UNI bridesmaids finally wins a NC and the best part is they will have an asterisk next to the title because everyone in the country knows that the best teams have been hamstrung by the situation unnecessarily created by non-scientific judgements on whether they were going to allow 18-22 year olds that are deemed the lowest risk to play during the designated season..What a f***ing joke.  We have no leadership anymore.  All we have in this country are cowards.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: YSUGO on February 28, 2021, 11:13:17 AM
Politics has nothing to do that our football program has sunk to nothing.  When Tressel took the Buckeyes job the powers to be have made one bad decision after another.  Heacock, Wolford, Pelini,  We are in a conference that don’t give a sh** about us and geographically don’t fit and it’s destroyed us.  The BS that our conference is the SEC means nothing to the casual fan.  They want to see W’’s and a chance to make the playoffs. They don’t care how tough the conference is. The economics have changed where OtherFCS programs pay more for their assistants than our HC.  Wake the hell up here.  We need to get out of the MVC find a conference that fits us geographically for fans and recruiting.  Or drop down to D2.  We ARE not going to get lucky again like the 90’s.  Look in the mirror here! Go Penguins
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 28, 2021, 12:10:01 PM
Politics has nothing to do that our football program has sunk to nothing.  When Tressel took the Buckeyes job the powers to be have made one bad decision after another.  Heacock, Wolford, Pelini,  We are in a conference that don’t give a sh** about us and geographically don’t fit and it’s destroyed us.  The BS that our conference is the SEC means nothing to the casual fan.  They want to see W’’s and a chance to make the playoffs. They don’t care how tough the conference is. The economics have changed where OtherFCS programs pay more for their a$$istants than our HC.  Wake the hell up here.  We need to get out of the MVC find a conference that fits us geographically for fans and recruiting.  Or drop down to D2.  We ARE not going to get lucky again like the 90’s.  Look in the mirror here! Go Penguins

Well we are not dropping down to D2 and we are not switching conferences so wishful thinking.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: goodnews on February 28, 2021, 02:00:09 PM
The AD has no clue when to hire or fire or who to hire and fire.  The job is obviously a tough sell.  We ended up with a man who has studied Jim Tressel phrases (young men) to prepare for media interviews and wants to dress like him too.  He is an imposter.  At some point the LIP service wont work.   
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: YSU1 on February 28, 2021, 02:06:09 PM
we need to recruit better.  hopefully the new coach can do this
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 28, 2021, 03:13:49 PM
The AD has no clue when to hire or fire or who to hire and fire.  The job is obviously a tough sell.  We ended up with a man who has studied Jim Tressel phrases (young men) to prepare for media interviews and wants to dress like him too.  He is an imposter.  At some point the LIP service wont work.   

Good lord give the guy more than two games lol
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: goodnews on February 28, 2021, 03:36:41 PM
Sorry but the guy brings ZERO excitement.  Two postgame press conferences is enough for me.  WOW!
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 28, 2021, 04:17:05 PM
Sorry but the guy brings ZERO excitement.  Two postgame press conferences is enough for me.  WOW!

You are complaining of lip service but want more excitement? I’m very confused as to what you want from DP. I just want him to turn the program around, and I understand it’s going to take a while. I don’t care all that much if he’s “exciting” in press conferences. Frequently the most low-key coaches are the most effective.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on February 28, 2021, 04:44:56 PM
Politics has nothing to do that our football program has sunk to nothing.  When Tressel took the Buckeyes job the powers to be have made one bad decision after another.  Heacock, Wolford, Pelini,  We are in a conference that don’t give a sh** about us and geographically don’t fit and it’s destroyed us.  The BS that our conference is the SEC means nothing to the casual fan.  They want to see W’’s and a chance to make the playoffs. They don’t care how tough the conference is. The economics have changed where OtherFCS programs pay more for their a$$istants than our HC.  Wake the hell up here.  We need to get out of the MVC find a conference that fits us geographically for fans and recruiting.  Or drop down to D2.  We ARE not going to get lucky again like the 90’s.  Look in the mirror here! Go Penguins

I can agree with most of the post but not dropping to D2.

I would like to see the numbers, where did you see how much we pay, who is paying more and how much more?

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: goodnews on February 28, 2021, 04:45:41 PM
Lets be real.  Phillips is here cause he came cheap and spoke the best "coach talk".  Oh and he knew someone with money locally.  There was little excitement when he was hired and even less 14 months later. I don't know the guy and have nothing against him but he has zero experience turning a football program around.   
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: ucfpengbuck on February 28, 2021, 05:06:09 PM
Pelini imploded the program.     Oline is very green and not ready which gives the running game no holes and the passing very little time.   It starts up front and coach Phillip needs JC transfers or some guys from the transfer portal.  It going to take time and it won't be pleasant for a few seasons.

In two games I haven't seen much of a pass rush.  Back 7 has held up despite the lack of push up front.

I like the new rb from the d2 school .  The guy needs more touches in some creative ways.  Looks like he can house it if he has a crease.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on February 28, 2021, 07:39:07 PM
Lets be real.  Phillips is here cause he came cheap and spoke the best "coach talk".  Oh and he knew someone with money locally.  There was little excitement when he was hired and even less 14 months later. I don't know the guy and have nothing against him but he has zero experience turning a football program around.

He absolutely has experience turning programs around.

 He worked for Matt Campbell who just took Iowa State to their first ever big 12 championship and for Luke Fickell who took Cincinnati to their first NY6 game in over a decade.
Heck he even started his coaching career under Tressel in the early 90s. He’s been with at least 3 programs that were in the process of major cultural shifts.

Nobody else interested in the job had anything close to that type of experience.

Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Penquin68 on February 28, 2021, 07:46:35 PM
DP is a new hire and like all new hires his success of failure is in question.  JT came here without head coaching experience and was a home run after a few lean years.  BP came here with much success as a head coach and it didn't work out. Give Doug Phillips his chance to get the program going.  What he is instilling in the players is very good.  Can he recruit and develop players? Who knows. That will be the test of whether he is a success or not. And bringing in transfers will help in the short term but hurt in the long term. Let him do what he thinks is best and let the results speak for themselves. All this negative attitude only hurts YSU's chances to attract the players we need for success. Think about it.  It reminds me of the old Vindicator that could only downgrade the city of Youngstown and YSU.  It does no good.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Guin83 on February 28, 2021, 09:08:12 PM
So far YSU has played the FBS equivalent of playing Alabama and Notre Dame...Losing 25-7 and 21-0.  This week we play Clemson.  While not optimal, we haven’t been blown out.  Pelini was a huge disappointment and left the program in shambles.  Give Phillips a couple years to get it going in the right direction.  It’s going to take at least two recruiting classes and recruiting appears to be what he does well.   
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: goodnews on February 28, 2021, 09:10:37 PM
I hope you are right about Phillips.  However, his time at the programs u mention are short stints as RB coaches and a few other entry level jobs. He has zero coordinator experience.  One year as a recruiting coordinator thats it.  Peterson was recruiting coordinator at OSU and you see how well he has contributed to the O-LINE which he coaches.  The entire staff is a reach at best.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Wick250 on March 01, 2021, 12:12:12 AM
Does anyone remember that one year ago as Pelini left and Phillips was hired, our roster contained five or six offensive linemen. Phillips was in an impossible situation as clearly the o-line is the hardest element of a football team to develop properly.  What we are seeing is very tough to watch but not really unexpected.

Tressel became university president in the spring of 2014.  By the end of the fall, Wolford was gone. Tressel probably wanted to bring his own guy on board then, but the Pelini situation interfered. How could we turn down a local guy who won at least 9 games every year in the Big Ten? Nobody at that time, including Tressel, could have predicted how thoroughly Pelini would screw up this program.

Now Tressel finally has his own man in place. And make no mistake, Phillips is here only because Tressel wanted him. I trust his judgment on football matters.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: go guins on March 01, 2021, 10:20:04 AM
The AD has no clue when to hire or fire or who to hire and fire.  The job is obviously a tough sell.  We ended up with a man who has studied Jim Tressel phrases (young men) to prepare for media interviews and wants to dress like him too.  He is an imposter.  At some point the LIP service wont work.   
Give me a break!  Bo leaves us without much at all and 2 games into what is aptly called the "silly season" you want to cut and run!?!?!? WTF do you think you'd get next?  This guy needs at LEAST a couple regular seasons to begin to judge.  That would be 2021-22 and 2022-23 so don't talk to me until at least the spring of 2023  Get Vince Lombardi to coach me and 4 of my buddies as an OL we'd still lose every game. 
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: HLecter on March 01, 2021, 11:17:47 AM
I am not football savvy enough to know if it is a case where the talent is not there or they just need more playing time together. At this point you could make a case for each.

Having all those newbies on the O-line at the same time has to be a major challenge  for the players and the coaches.

Pick the best player for each position and let them get game time together. Treat the spring season as an extended spring game and get ready for the fall.

It’s serious lack of talent on the OL
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Wick250 on March 01, 2021, 11:24:56 AM
Well, HLecter returns!  And since his son was a quality offensive lineman for YSU, his evaluation is very meaningful....and depressing.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: HLecter on March 01, 2021, 11:34:39 AM
This is by far the worst offensive line in our DI history. They are incapable of opening holes for our backs and pa$$ block so poorly that our quarterbacks have no chance to throw downfield. Unfortunately, that line is the one component of a football team for which there is no quick fix. It will take at least three years of recruiting and development. This is Bo's legacy after his five year tenure.


You got it.......
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: go guins on March 01, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
So far YSU has played the FBS equivalent of playing Alabama and Notre Dame...Losing 25-7 and 21-0.  This week we play Clemson.  While not optimal, we haven’t been blown out.  Pelini was a huge disappointment and left the program in shambles.  Give Phillips a couple years to get it going in the right direction.  It’s going to take at least two recruiting cla$$es and recruiting appears to be what he does well.
Amen to that!  at LEAST 2 classes.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: HLecter on March 01, 2021, 11:39:03 AM
Well, HLecter returns!  And since his son was a quality offensive lineman for YSU, his evaluation is very meaningful....and depressing.


Thank you!

I don’t wAnt to point out particular players so as a unit.  They are pretty bad.  They get in their sets way too slowly....feet are bad.  That being said those are techniques that can be improved on with coaching...so do it
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: go guins on March 01, 2021, 11:44:38 AM
Well, HLecter returns!  And since his son was a quality offensive lineman for YSU, his evaluation is very meaningful....and depressing.


Thank you!

I don’t wAnt to point out particular players so as a unit.  They are pretty bad.  They get in their sets way too slowly....feet are bad.  That being said those are techniques that can be improved on with coaching...so do it
Thanks for not pointing out particular players, these are NOT evil players, just kids trying against what is currently more talented defenses.  Make no mistake, NDSU and UNI are good teams. (unfortunately so are SIU, SDSU, SD, ND good grief)  Question is, do these kids have the talent, if coached up?  Answer available in 6 weeks!
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: guinpen on March 01, 2021, 11:59:42 AM
Well, HLecter returns!  And since his son was a quality offensive lineman for YSU, his evaluation is very meaningful....and depressing.


Thank you!

I don’t wAnt to point out particular players so as a unit.  They are pretty bad.  They get in their sets way too slowly....feet are bad.  That being said those are techniques that can be improved on with coaching...so do it

Nice to see you back I always liked your input.


Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: goodnews on March 01, 2021, 06:23:01 PM
The fact that the same people who hired the previous three coaches with the exception of Wolf continue to make the coaching decisions is concerning.  They made the hires and extended contracts.  Best case scenario would be playoffs in 2023 which would be another 6-7 year hiatus. 
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on March 01, 2021, 07:00:08 PM
The fact that the same people who hired the previous three coaches with the exception of Wolf continue to make the coaching decisions is concerning.  They made the hires and extended contracts.  Best case scenario would be playoffs in 2023 which would be another 6-7 year hiatus.

Best case scenario is we make the playoffs this fall. I know we're a long way off, but the young defense is headed in the right direction. Once the Oline develops a bit we'll get things going on offense
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: peteonastick on March 02, 2021, 01:43:21 PM
Here is the key!  These players want to play for these coaches. In two games it is apparent. In the Pelini Reign of Terror the players quit, were tired of the berating and didn’t want to play for the a$$hole. These players are not afraid to make mistakes. We all know what happened to players who made mistakes in the Pelini Reign of Terror! They were murdered on the sideline, embarrassed in front of friends and family and benched.   If you get kids that want to play and will do anything in season and off season, you will put a competitive team on the field. They are 18-22 year olds and the returning players lived through hell. I’m surprised some don’t have PTSD. ( Pelini Traumatic Stress Syndrome). That is all I want to see during this silly season. Players that care and players that will give everything they got, with the talent level they were given, (which we know is behind) to do their best. He has turned that around in two games against teams with way more talent then us. And by the way we were in both games going into the 4th quarter. We got worn down, which we knew would happen with the defense on the field so long. Give the guy a break. Tressel was 2-9 his first year after Narduzzi.  And he wasn’t coaching during a pandemic.  Must be a lot of millennials on here looking for immediate gratification. Your mothers must have never told you no before.

Go Guins.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Kandrase on March 02, 2021, 02:37:57 PM
Here is the key!  These players want to play for these coaches. In two games it is apparent. In the Pelini Reign of Terror the players quit, were tired of the berating and didn’t want to play for the a$$hole. These players are not afraid to make mistakes. We all know what happened to players who made mistakes in the Pelini Reign of Terror! They were murdered on the sideline, embarra$$ed in front of friends and family and benched.   If you get kids that want to play and will do anything in season and off season, you will put a competitive team on the field. They are 18-22 year olds and the returning players lived through hell. I’m surprised some don’t have PTSD. ( Pelini Traumatic Stress Syndrome). That is all I want to see during this silly season. Players that care and players that will give everything they got, with the talent level they were given, (which we know is behind) to do their best. He has turned that around in two games against teams with way more talent then us. And by the way we were in both games going into the 4th quarter. We got worn down, which we knew would happen with the defense on the field so long. Give the guy a break. Tressel was 2-9 his first year after Narduzzi.  And he wasn’t coaching during a pandemic.  Must be a lot of millennials on here looking for immediate gratification. Your mothers must have never told you no before.

Go Guins.

Totally agree with you POAS. DP has said he’s okay with the kids making mistakes if they do so while playing hard, which I think is a good attitude.

But also, I’d like to defend my generation by saying that I’m a millennial who understands that this will take time.
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: Guin83 on March 02, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
Here is the key!  These players want to play for these coaches. In two games it is apparent. In the Pelini Reign of Terror the players quit, were tired of the berating and didn’t want to play for the a$$hole. These players are not afraid to make mistakes. We all know what happened to players who made mistakes in the Pelini Reign of Terror! They were murdered on the sideline, embarra$$ed in front of friends and family and benched.   If you get kids that want to play and will do anything in season and off season, you will put a competitive team on the field. They are 18-22 year olds and the returning players lived through hell. I’m surprised some don’t have PTSD. ( Pelini Traumatic Stress Syndrome). That is all I want to see during this silly season. Players that care and players that will give everything they got, with the talent level they were given, (which we know is behind) to do their best. He has turned that around in two games against teams with way more talent then us. And by the way we were in both games going into the 4th quarter. We got worn down, which we knew would happen with the defense on the field so long. Give the guy a break. Tressel was 2-9 his first year after Narduzzi.  And he wasn’t coaching during a pandemic.  Must be a lot of millennials on here looking for immediate gratification. Your mothers must have never told you no before.

Go Guins.
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Well stated! 
Title: Re: UNI Gameday Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on March 03, 2021, 08:15:38 AM
Good point on Coach T's record. He was given a great crop of players and did well in year 1, then in two more years there was more than one person talking about replacing him, but cooler heads prevailed.