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Since the other posts are full of medical experts espousing about masks and a virus, I thought I would start a post on the actual gameday thoughts and expectations. Here is what I am looking for:
1. Coaching presence and motivation of team - how will the coaches handle adversity because we know we are going to have it this spring? Management of clock. Some sign of a plan and strategy for putting talent in winning situations.
2. Any sign of glimmers of talent or play from positions and players? Who will shine today? Who will be a bust?
3. Coach play calling - offense and defense. Will we be in at least the right positions today to make plays? Not panicking! Reinforcing young mistakes instead of berating them as we have had in the past.
4. O Line - subbing and ability to stay together as a unit.
5. Defense - secondary - can they cover? Can they make plays on the ball instead of having back to QB all day?
6. Keeping up with the pace of the game!
7. Injuries - keep to minimum this game and rest of spring.
Lots to look for and looking forward to YSU football again.
GO GUINS
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Go Penguins
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Does any one know if the broadcast on WBCB and ESPN+ will essentially be the same (WBCB to carry ESPN+ feed)? Or will we have our own people doing the play by play on WBCB?
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Win Lose or Draw, thank god one of the longest off-seasons in YSU football history is over!
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Well that blows
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Holy sh*t, throw the ball!!
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This is terrible
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WTF?
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What was calling these dumb plays.
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Gonna be a long year folks. Especially if you cannot complete a pass.
Phillips is a JT wannabee.
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If we are not going to pass, put in the running QB.
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Yeah I am not impressed
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I was surprised that a D2 transfer would get most of the carries so far, but I just looked up McLaughlin and he was by far the best RB in all of D2 last year. Nice addition to our backfield for sure:
First in All-Purpose Yards; only player to secure 2,000
First in Rushing Yards; only player to secure 2,000
Second in Rushing Touchdowns with 30
First in Total Touchdowns with 33
First in Scoring with 198 points (14.1 points/game)
Sixteenth in Yards Per Carry with an average of 6.71
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17 minutes into the game. Zero passes
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This is embarrassing. Zero passes even attempted!
Are we in 1990?
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This is worse than embarrassing. Zero first downs. Zero pass attempts
Going to be 16 -0 soon. Should be 50-0
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Looks like a high school offense out there
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Playing to keep the score down
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Wow, tough crowd
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I am looking for a bright spot. Nothing
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Bright spot.... they have already done better than last year’s team at this stage of the game.
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are you going to pass? lol
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oops I jinxed it. but COX almost jumped that
YSU is actually playing good on D
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Will the offense cross the 50 today?
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All season, we were worrying about the OL. It looks like we should be worrying about QB.
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This offense is horrible
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(Some of ) You guys are way too pessimistic, the defense is playing great against the #1 team in the country. Only down 11-0 near halftime is beyond my wildest expecations!
Yes the offense looks terrible, but we're competing with NDSU. Couldn't hope for much more at this point
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Defense played pretty well. Offense was terrible. Play calling was worse.
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D is playing well.
NDSU didn’t even bother to call TO to get the ball back for another score. They figure 11 points will be enough to win the game since we will be able to score.
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Conference did us no favors sending us to NDSU with a new coach etc. That being said we are down 11-0 that’s not bad. Hopefully the offense will come around but when your offensive line is your weakness and with a new playbook it’s going to take time.
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IMO.
We will never know how good or bad our OL is with pass protection if we don’t call a pass play.
If our OL is weak, we PROBABLY will not be able to run the ball. If they stack 8 in the box, we DEFINITELY will not be able to run the ball.
Let us see what half time adjustments we are going to make for the 2nd half.
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Crap
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That'll do it folks
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It was over long ago
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Will the offense cross the 50 today?
Yes
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Team is flat. No swag.
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3 points probably was enough to beat us.
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Having zero expectations makes the game almost watchable.
Need serious transfers/recruits on both sides up front
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Nice drive
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18-7!
I still don't get the pessimism here. This is much better than the last time we played the Bison. A young team with a brand new coaching staff being able to compete with the Bison is amazing!
As a reminder it was 55-10 at the end of the 3rd quarter the last time we played NDSU.
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Waid QB from here on out.
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Waif is the answer!
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Why didn’t we do this in the first half. Good job.
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Really impressed on the defensive side of the ball. Especially considering they are pretty much all freshman and sophomore's. They look better coached and less confused than the Pelini Ds.
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This NDSU team is not anywhere near past years teams.
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They are finally opening their play book
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This NDSU team is not anywhere near past years teams.
That might be true, but it's not like they are going to drop from national championship caliber to average MVFC team. We're playing a very good football team.
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Waid is making plays! He certainly gives this offense a new dynamic
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This NDSU team is not anywhere near past years teams.
That might be true, but it's not like they are going to drop from national championship caliber to average MVFC team. We're playing a very good football team.
But I willl agree, I think SDSU or UNI has a great chance at beating NDSU this year, no doubt.
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18-7!
I still don't get the pessimism here. This is much better than the last time we played the Bison. A young team with a brand new coaching staff being able to compete with the Bison is amazing!
As a reminder it was 55-10 at the end of the 3rd quarter the last time we played NDSU.
I don't get it either,
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This NDSU team is not anywhere near past years teams.
They sure did not impress but they got the win.
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For those of you who are actually upset right now, I will just say this. Tressel was 2-9 in his first year, he inherited more talent from Narduzzi than Pelini left for Phillips, and the OVC in 1986 was a weak conference compared to the modern MVFC.
Disregarding the transfers that Phillips brought in, take a look at the juniors and seniors that Phillips inherited. How many would you label as "good" football players? Two? Three? It will take years to develop these ridiculously young players.
No turnovers, few penalties, playing hard to the final whistle. Many of the things on Peteonastick's list could be checked off today.
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Thought that the D played pretty well.
With 4 new faces on the O line I am not shocked that they started slow, will take some time to jell. Thought that we looked slow on O at times.
Tried watching how the coach handled himself, seemed under control to me.
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Can definitely tell the players were playing hard and didn't quit, unlike under Pelini.
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I think we need Waid at QB to have a chance on offense. Our O line is not good enough to have a running game, especially with our smaller running backs. We need Waid to add the bigger runner we so desperately need and the extra person to be concerned about. Craycraft is a more traditional QB who will have trouble without a running game. Maybe later in the year he can do well.
Defense played well but needs more size to be competitive at the highest level. I am hopefully that the D will be acceptable this year and really good in the future.
Coaches looked under control and players played hard. Good for them.
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1. Yes this was a very poor and DSU football team compared to normal. I am certain that much of it has to do with the length of time since they last played. However not impressed with their quarterback at all.
2. Considering every year one or two small running backs rip us apart, when are we ever going to do something about it.? This has been going on for years.
3. Although we have seriously improved in Defense has a team. We still do not put together three straight defensive plays and get off the field. Then the one time we actually shifted your position in our favor we gave up a 70 yard run and put it right back in the bisons favor again and we never got it back. A young team like this needs field position they’re not ready to take the ball and drive The length of the field against one of the top teams in the country.
4. Very happy with McGlaughlin, I am a bit worried about his consistency but until we can put a line in front of him hard to say. He was the only Back that the NDSU coach brought up during the week, so clearly they were ready for him and had some respect. Did not seem to key on him though.
5. Why is it that we cannot get a punter that can kick the ball high and deep? We line drive that one front and hit the guy in the numbers you knew he was going to take it all the way soon as you saw him catch the ball. My God it hit him right in the numbers with a 40 yard cushion. I don’t not know if we changed kickers in the second half, but he either improve dramatically or is a much better kicker seems like a keeper as long as he stays consistent. Now we have to see how our field-goal kicking is going to be.
6. On the officiating side we got away with a few things, so I cannot complain too badly. However the amount of holding it in DSU does is unbelievable and I get away with it year after year after year it’s the way their coached. Officials need to learn to call a couple of those early in the game that’ll stop. That one touchdown will not have happened had The bison lineman not grabbed our player by the front of the collar and pulled him down to the ground get his hole. You have to be impressed by some of that lateral speed we had on defense today very good and tackling seems to have improved.
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I was not disappointed at the players.
I was disappointed at the play call, play selections and the choice of QB in the first half.
We knew Waid is more mobile and can run. As it turned out, he also had better down field vision
Right now, he is the better choice of the two.
Our new transferred RB has quickness. But, he did not appear to have the power to break tackles.
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YSU defense was pretty dang good, I think thats your ticket this year.
You should throw more rollouts into the flat, screens etc and just mix it up more
NDSU lost RB 1 (adam cofield to WKU, WR Sproles didnt play, neither did starting CB Weber or FB luepke and RB Seth Wilson got hurt 5th play of game)
NDSU will be just fine
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(Some of ) You guys are way too pessimistic, the defense is playing great against the #1 team in the country. Only down 11-0 near halftime is beyond my wildest expecations!
Yes the offense looks terrible, but we're competing with NDSU. Couldn't hope for much more at this point
Kandrase I completely agree. When I was watching this game I was thinking man YSU is playing way better than my expectations. Especially the defense. Offense had issues but this was the first game and early in the season. I actually think the offense will improve going forward. Also... I wasn't really expecting anything going into this game so maybe that's why this seemed to beat my expectations.
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YSU defense was pretty dang good, I think thats your ticket this year.
You should throw more rollouts into the flat, screens etc and just mix it up more
NDSU lost RB 1 (adam cofield to WKU, WR Sproles didnt play, neither did starting CB Weber or FB luepke and RB Seth Wilson got hurt 5th play of game)
NDSU will be just fine
Lakes you are a hoot, I keep life in perspective, and I find you post humorous. you start out with a little kudo to our defense. Then some gracious advice on how to improve our offense, then quickly point out so many key players that were not able to help.
I have no doubt that you folks will be fine and I wish the best to you the rest of the season, you sound like a smart guy, I will pa$$ along your play calling suggestions to the head coach if you can teach your fans the correct words to the National Anthem.
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Agree with much of what has been said. I don't think we were outcoached, I like what I saw overall from the staff. We need better players. Bo's last year 2-6, and many blowout losses, this process will be baby steps. But I think Phillips will get talent and by the fall of 2022 we will be a playoff team.
As for NDSU, I listened to most of the game, Hannon said they played without their all conference fullback and starting safety. What is frightful is that NDSU is very young, and isn't going anywhere. Hannon also said that they have a transfer from Va. Tech who will be eligible to play QB in the fall who was a 4 star recruit out of high school. But many of you may be right, this could be the year that SDSU wins the conference.
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This NDSU team is not anywhere near past years teams.
Agreed
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Can definitely tell the players were playing hard and didn't quit, unlike under Pelini.
Really nice effort. Also not a ton stupid penalties like offside motion etc. and not players running in and out, not knowing were they were supposed to be. All good signs for Phillips and his staff.
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This is MVFC and while not the pros it's probably still fair to say "there is not such thing as a moral victory," While I didn't feel like we won anything Sunday, I certainly had a better feeling about where we are than I did going in the game.. Frankly 42-0 wouldn't have shocked me. We played much better defense than I expected, and pass defense with all the freshman was pretty damn good. Would have been interesting to have Waid and an open playbook for 4 quarters.
All that being said, UNI lost 24-20 at SDSU so we are going to be up against it again Saturday.
Truth is, Sunday was as good as we could have expected. LOTS of kids got big time experience and certainly shouldn't have felt crushed in any way, and I didn't notice any significant injuries. 1 down, 7 more games until we get to fall and meaningful football.
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Promising.
1. I like the fact that he's ok it his best players on defense. He appears to be building like Luke Fickell and Jim Tressel.
2. We didnt make too many stupid mistakes.
3. They played hard every snap and didn't give in.
4. Disciplined for such a young team.
Tressel Ball is back in my opinion.
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The endless obsession of a reincarnation of JT in someone else is beyond played out at YSU. Tressel Ball doesn't work in 2021 and most realize that. Phillips may talk like Tressel but he isn't anymore like him then his 3 predisessors. Everyone needs to move on and embrace the here and now and be glad if you had the pleasure of experiencing YSU FOOTBALL IN THE 90s.
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The endless obsession of a reincarnation of JT in someone else is beyond played out at YSU. Tressel Ball doesn't work in 2021 and most realize that. Phillips may talk like Tressel but he isn't anymore like him then his 3 predisessors. Everyone needs to move on and embrace the here and now and be glad if you had the pleasure of experiencing YSU FOOTBALL IN THE 90s.
"Tressel ball" doesn't look the same, but it certainly does work. It works at 31-24 not 17-14 but it still works. Look at national championship game. Yes we remember Smith making our DBs look silly, but watch the game tape again, When we needed a 1st down they shut down the running game and when they needed a first, Harris picked it up every time. I agree with your "hear and now" and think Doug Phillips deserves no less, but if you can run and stop the run, you have an excellent chance of winning. What did Big Ben rack up in the playoff game against the Browns, 500+ yards. But we ran the ball effectively, and stopped their running. Long live Tressel ball!
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Jim Tressel had the best offensive and defensive lines in 1-AA. That will not happen again.
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Jim Tressel had the best offensive and defensive lines in 1-AA.
Not sure I agree with this statement.
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Jim Tressel had the best offensive and defensive lines in 1-AA.
Not sure I agree with this statement.
I agree with guinpen. I saw us play for 6 national championships (NOT all live) and I thought we had the most talented team on the field in exactly 1 of those games. I thought we had the best prepared and coached team in all 6. I thought OSU had a significantly less talented team in 2002.
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Tressel Ball (basically Joe Paterno) or whatever you wanna call it works when Jim Tressel is on the sidelines.
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Tressel Ball (basically Joe Paterno) or whatever you wanna call it works when Jim Tressel is on the sidelines.
That implies it doesn't work when Phillips is on the sidelines. We'll, frankly is part of my enjoyment Sunday was seeing the sweeter vest patrolling our sidelines again. Anybody think that was a coincidence? Gibbs Rule 39: There is no such thing as a coincidence
I think Coach Phillips deserves a chance to establish "Phillips ball" and if it looks a lot like Tressel ball, all the better! For me "a chance" is at LEAST 3 seasons,
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Jim Tressel had the best offensive and defensive lines in 1-AA.
Not sure I agree with this statement.
I thought we had the best prepared and coached team in all 6.
I agree with this statement
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Tressel Ball (basically Joe Paterno) or whatever you wanna call it works when Jim Tressel is on the sidelines.
That implies it doesn't work when Phillips is on the sidelines. We'll, frankly is part of my enjoyment Sunday was seeing the sweeter vest patrolling our sidelines again. Anybody think that was a coincidence? Gibbs Rule 39: There is no such thing as a coincidence
I think Coach Phillips deserves a chance to establish "Phillips ball" and if it looks a lot like Tressel ball, all the better! For me "a chance" is at LEAST 3 seasons,
To me calling it Jim Tressel is just a label. The more talent the better but the key is to have the team prepared and then be able to coach the team during the course of the game especially the 4th qtr.
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Tressel Ball (basically Joe Paterno) or whatever you wanna call it works when Jim Tressel is on the sidelines.
That implies it doesn't work when Phillips is on the sidelines. We'll, frankly is part of my enjoyment Sunday was seeing the sweeter vest patrolling our sidelines again. Anybody think that was a coincidence? Gibbs Rule 39: There is no such thing as a coincidence
I think Coach Phillips deserves a chance to establish "Phillips ball" and if it looks a lot like Tressel ball, all the better! For me "a chance" is at LEAST 3 seasons,
To me calling it Jim Tressel is just a label. The more talent the better but the key is to have the team prepared and then be able to coach the team during the course of the game especially the 4th qtr.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure the most important thing is coaching. To have the talent is critical Certainly both are important. If you took Sunday's game and removed all the last couple months of transfers, leaving what Pelini left and the recruiting class, we would have been run right out of the gym! Talent and coaching. IMO, we were coached very well Sunday and it was still 25-7. The big hurdle for DP is NOT the next 7 spring games, but his first "start to finish" recruiting class. We simply aren't good enough to compete in the MVFC just yet.