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Title: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: lakesbison on February 06, 2021, 05:23:28 PM
Well, 2 weeks away! Sunday Feb 21. 
*NDSU had a State Wrestling Tournament to go around & they thought a stand alone sunday game might intrique some NFL sunday fans*

sounds like 9500 fans will be at the Fargodome.

NDSU lost QB Trey Lance, but Iowa St Transfer Zeb Noland will take over (he had a 300+ yard game vs Oklahoma 2 years ago, so he's very capable)

Lost some OL and RB to Western Kentucky.


I have no idea how YSU is looking, fill us in, is there any buzz about this game, or spring season in general?
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ucfpengbuck on February 06, 2021, 07:21:27 PM
YSU isn't getting anything close to a starter from a power 5 conference at any position an QB is a big question mark.   New coaching staff after Pelini era left the program in the bottom third of the MVC.
We're like Rutgers going into a season opener at Columbus.   Hope I'm wrong .  Not seeing a lot of experience or depth at any position.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Wick250 on February 06, 2021, 07:36:49 PM
Lakes, in 2019 I suggested to you that you could name the score since the YSU team had quit on Pelini.  You were skeptical until about 10 minutes into the first quarter. This will be another awful mismatch, although the climate is different. President Tressel was compelled by community pressure to accept Bo Pelini as head football coach.  That turned out to be a disaster.  Doug Phillips is Tressel's hand-picked choice. In the long term, we are somewhat confident that he will rebuild the program. But right now we have very little talent. Collectively, the senior and junior classes are the worst I have every seen. Hope resides in the redshirt and true freshmen but they are no threat to you.  Maybe in 2023.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 06, 2021, 10:28:04 PM
This team will go as far as the transfers take them. QB and OL play is concerning.

Florida
Cincinnati x2
Eastern Michigan
Bowling Green
Syracuse
Buter CC
Lehigh
Findlay
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: The YO Show on February 07, 2021, 08:34:11 PM
Chief, question for you. I had a feeling we would still be hurting at oline for the foreseeable future after last year's showing. However, I saw that there was a decent amount of linemen in the signees and other pickups that we got going all the way back to the 2020 signing period and summer.

Is this going to be a position that will be better in the future, but still suspect due to youth?
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on February 08, 2021, 08:28:33 AM
Lakes & YSU fans. The best thing that you can do is express you anger for having full contact sport season this late in the year & ask them to cancel. Also, NDSU has an indoor stadium & not that large, are you not more concerned about the virus with that number people "supposedly" going to attend? I thought the max was 20% of capacity with a 6' gap between sections. Many MBB teams have arena's as large as yours, if not larger, and they are not allowed fans.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: lakesbison on February 08, 2021, 08:41:17 AM
Lakes & YSU fans. The best thing that you can do is express you anger for having full contact sport season this late in the year & ask them to cancel. Also, NDSU has an indoor stadium & not that large, are you not more concerned about the virus with that number people "supposedly" going to attend? I thought the max was 20% of capacity with a 6' gap between sections. Many MBB teams have arena's as large as yours, if not larger, and they are not allowed fans.

LOL WUT?   theres 158 ACTIVE cases in Fargo/West Fargo population 150 000.  it'll be alright dude, bars/restaurants/businesses/schools were open the whole time. My 3 kids went to.school Sept 1.   5 days a week in person.

the game is gonna be played with 9500 fans (50%) and your players and staff like 99.98% of Americans will be just fine.


No back to the game. NDSU might have a feeling out period so YSU could catch them at the right time b4 things are dialed in
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Cimo7 on February 08, 2021, 12:34:24 PM
Lakes & YSU fans. The best thing that you can do is express you anger for having full contact sport season this late in the year & ask them to cancel. Also, NDSU has an indoor stadium & not that large, are you not more concerned about the virus with that number people "supposedly" going to attend? I thought the max was 20% of capacity with a 6' gap between sections. Many MBB teams have arena's as large as yours, if not larger, and they are not allowed fans.

LOL WUT?   theres 158 ACTIVE cases in Fargo/West Fargo population 150 000.  it'll be alright dude, bars/restaurants/businesses/schools were open the whole time. My 3 kids went to.school Sept 1.   5 days a week in person.

the game is gonna be played with 9500 fans (50%) and your players and staff like 99.98% of Americans will be just fine.


No back to the game. NDSU might have a feeling out period so YSU could catch them at the right time b4 things are dialed in


Right on Lakes. Glad to see there are still some people with common sense who aren’t programmed.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on February 08, 2021, 01:13:46 PM
Lakes & YSU fans. The best thing that you can do is express you anger for having full contact sport season this late in the year & ask them to cancel. Also, NDSU has an indoor stadium & not that large, are you not more concerned about the virus with that number people "supposedly" going to attend? I thought the max was 20% of capacity with a 6' gap between sections. Many MBB teams have arena's as large as yours, if not larger, and they are not allowed fans.

LOL WUT?   theres 158 ACTIVE cases in Fargo/West Fargo population 150 000.  it'll be alright dude, bars/restaurants/businesses/schools were open the whole time. My 3 kids went to.school Sept 1.   5 days a week in person.

the game is gonna be played with 9500 fans (50%) and your players and staff like 99.98% of Americans will be just fine.


No back to the game. NDSU might have a feeling out period so YSU could catch them at the right time b4 things are dialed in

Lakes and Cimo7 thank you for being voices of intellect and rationality in a world lacking sense and testosterone.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 08, 2021, 06:05:57 PM
Chief, question for you. I had a feeling we would still be hurting at oline for the foreseeable future after last year's showing. However, I saw that there was a decent amount of linemen in the signees and other pickups that we got going all the way back to the 2020 signing period and summer.

Is this going to be a position that will be better in the future, but still suspect due to youth?

Yeah I would say so. They are putting an emphasis on the O-Line so we will see.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: lakesbison on February 08, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
QB Zeb Noland connecting with Christian Watson will be the home rjn for NDSU after smashing 2-3 runs into the heart of the DL
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Double ET on February 09, 2021, 06:11:40 AM
WFMJ/WBCB announced last night that they planned to carry the game live.
Does anyone know if this game or all games will be televised by either ESPN3 or ESPN+ ?
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 09, 2021, 08:40:22 AM
 YSU football will struggle until they get a big time QB.  Craycraft has been average at best and if he is the starter and it looks that way, then Waid has not been what we had hoped for.  ND State had Wentz and Lance, now they have a transfer from Iowa State who looks legit, in the fall they have another transfer who will be eligible from Va. Tech.  Northern Iowa has the first team preseason conference pick at QB in Will McElvain,  South Dakota State has a very good QB in Gibbs.

 There is a reason YSU is picked 8th, and has one offensive or defensive starter on first team all conference, and that is Dan Becker.   We lack talent, hopefully some of these mid year transfers can help, but big picture we need Phillips and his staff to be great recruiters.

Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 09, 2021, 11:58:54 AM
YSU football will struggle until they get a big time QB.  Craycraft has been average at best and if he is the starter and it looks that way, then Waid has not been what we had hoped for.  ND State had Wentz and Lance, now they have a transfer from Iowa State who looks legit, in the fall they have another transfer who will be eligible from Va. Tech.  Northern Iowa has the first team preseason conference pick at QB in Will McElvain,  South Dakota State has a very good QB in Gibbs.

 There is a reason YSU is picked 8th, and has one offensive or defensive starter on first team all conference, and that is Dan Becker.   We lack talent, hopefully some of these mid year transfers can help, but big picture we need Phillips and his staff to be great recruiters.

Don’t forget about Crenshaw who was the highest rated QB recruit we’ve ever gotten! Someone on this board doubts his arm but he had a 70+ % completion rate in HS and played in D1
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: go guins on February 09, 2021, 12:11:48 PM
YSU football will struggle until they get a big time QB.  Craycraft has been average at best and if he is the starter and it looks that way, then Waid has not been what we had hoped for.  ND State had Wentz and Lance, now they have a transfer from Iowa State who looks legit, in the fall they have another transfer who will be eligible from Va. Tech.  Northern Iowa has the first team preseason conference pick at QB in Will McElvain,  South Dakota State has a very good QB in Gibbs.

 There is a reason YSU is picked 8th, and has one offensive or defensive starter on first team all conference, and that is Dan Becker.   We lack talent, hopefully some of these mid year transfers can help, but big picture we need Phillips and his staff to be great recruiters.

Don’t forget about Crenshaw who was the highest rated QB recruit we’ve ever gotten! Someone on this board doubts his arm but he had a 70+ % completion rate in HS and played in D1
So did Waid, and Waid's footwork is 1000% better than Crenshaw's. It is very hard to compete at 1AA with one or both feet in the air when you throw.  You can get by in HS because most DBs are marginal, and some of the DB's are terrible.  At this level, they are all former All-Conference HS players.
If you weren't referring to me, then I agree with whomever you targeted!
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 09, 2021, 06:24:06 PM
Crenshaw will not see the field this year
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Double ET on February 09, 2021, 06:35:41 PM
Crenshaw will not see the field this year
Not even for Fall, 21?
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: lakesbison on February 09, 2021, 07:08:44 PM
WFMJ/WBCB announced last night that they planned to carry the game live.
Does anyone know if this game or all games will be televised by either ESPN3 or ESPN+ ?

FEB 21 (SUN) 2:30 P.M. NBC ND / ESPN+ BISON RADIO NETWORK

*

VS 

YOUNGSTOWN STATE

Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Double ET on February 09, 2021, 08:42:25 PM
WFMJ/WBCB announced last night that they planned to carry the game live.
Does anyone know if this game or all games will be televised by either ESPN3 or ESPN+ ?

FEB 21 (SUN) 2:30 P.M. NBC ND / ESPN+ BISON RADIO NETWORK

*

VS

YOUNGSTOWN STATE

Thanks for the information.
I can watch it on ESPN+ when I am out of town for the weekend.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: go guins on February 10, 2021, 08:39:29 AM
Crenshaw will not see the field this year
I disagree 100%!  The only thing he'll be able to do is "see" the field.  Won't get the opportunity to play on it, but he'll be able to watch!
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on February 10, 2021, 08:48:31 AM
You people keep missing the point on this micro-season. As if I truly give a crap about the virus anymore? I am well aware of what is right and wrong. It does not matter if you live in the "Sticks" Lake, the same rules should be evenly applied. My ONLY concerns are

1. Too damn cold for football & it is not a winter/spring sport. Who wants to go? I have never missed a YSu season & I am begging for this one to go away..
2. There are going to be injuries in this season, just like any other. Just what kind of shape do you think any team will be in, come July, after the previous season ended just a month earlier? NDSU will we be the best team in the league...by attrition.

Smarten up. Accept the fact that we missed the 2020-2021 season.  We all have to do the same thing so no other conference team has any advantage. I am rooting for ISU this whole season. Again this has NOTHING to do with the virus.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: guinpen on February 10, 2021, 09:48:20 AM


Smarten up. Accept the fact that we missed the 2020-2021 season.  We all have to do the same thing so no other conference team has any advantage. I am rooting for ISU this whole season. Again this has NOTHING to do with the virus.

Can I assume ISU blue
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: go guins on February 10, 2021, 11:36:11 AM
WTF (who the f___) is ISU?? 
Feb.27th we could expect high 30's low 40"s not great I understand, but I've been to worse! 
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 10, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
WTF (who the f___) is ISU?? 
Feb.27th we could expect high 30's low 40"s not great I understand, but I've been to worse!

Iowa State where his buddy Heacock is who drove this program into the ground lol.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on February 11, 2021, 08:28:36 AM


Smarten up. Accept the fact that we missed the 2020-2021 season.  We all have to do the same thing so no other conference team has any advantage. I am rooting for ISU this whole season. Again this has NOTHING to do with the virus.

Can I a$$ume ISU blue


Yes sorry. For the Redbirds, I usually go ILS.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on February 11, 2021, 08:30:06 AM
No I am rooting for (ISU) Indiana State. The only team smart enough to cancel the season.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: lakesbison on February 11, 2021, 10:04:23 AM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: guinpen on February 11, 2021, 10:31:35 AM
No I am rooting for (ISU) Indiana State. The only team smart enough to cancel the season.

I was thinking that was your intent.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: guinpen on February 11, 2021, 10:50:56 AM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.

Sorry to hear that all of your players got the virus, were they not following guidelines?

Yes I also want YSU to have a good program I wish the same for all schools, yes even NDSU. Problem that I see is that over the last 10 years or so the overall quality of FCS has dropped quite a bit. Too many of the marquee schools have moved up leaving the FCS very very watered down.

Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 11, 2021, 02:00:16 PM
  I agree with the above post on the quality of the teams, there is great individual talent based on the number of players from FCS, and the Missouri Valley Conference who play in the the NFL.  But most of the great programs have moved to FBS.  Boise, Marshall, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern and so on.  YSU one of the very few who hasn't or can't move up because of the lack of money.

 Many of the teams winning in FCS now, were D-2 powers in the 1990's and prior to that.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 11, 2021, 02:47:27 PM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 11, 2021, 02:53:43 PM
You people keep missing the point on this micro-season. As if I truly give a crap about the virus anymore? I am well aware of what is right and wrong. It does not matter if you live in the "Sticks" Lake, the same rules should be evenly applied. My ONLY concerns are

1. Too damn cold for football & it is not a winter/spring sport. Who wants to go? I have never missed a YSu season & I am begging for this one to go away..
2. There are going to be injuries in this season, just like any other. Just what kind of shape do you think any team will be in, come July, after the previous season ended just a month earlier? NDSU will we be the best team in the league...by attrition.

Smarten up. Accept the fact that we missed the 2020-2021 season.  We all have to do the same thing so no other conference team has any advantage. I am rooting for ISU this whole season. Again this has NOTHING to do with the virus.

Too cold? Have you not been to one of our November / December home games? We play colder home games than NDSU  ;D lol.

Also.. if we skip spring season we're going to miss out on developing our very young roster. Do we want to go into Fall with 8 less games of experience than the rest of the conference? I understand the injury risk but I think the lack of reps are significant as well.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: The YO Show on February 11, 2021, 09:27:02 PM
You people keep missing the point on this micro-season. As if I truly give a crap about the virus anymore? I am well aware of what is right and wrong. It does not matter if you live in the "Sticks" Lake, the same rules should be evenly applied. My ONLY concerns are

1. Too damn cold for football & it is not a winter/spring sport. Who wants to go? I have never missed a YSu season & I am begging for this one to go away..
2. There are going to be injuries in this season, just like any other. Just what kind of shape do you think any team will be in, come July, after the previous season ended just a month earlier? NDSU will we be the best team in the league...by attrition.

Smarten up. Accept the fact that we missed the 2020-2021 season.  We all have to do the same thing so no other conference team has any advantage. I am rooting for ISU this whole season. Again this has NOTHING to do with the virus.

In terms of injury attrition IAA, one thing to consider, the team is probably the largest it will ever be! With the new players and the other players that all got extra eligibility and are still playing. IF attrition does happen it theoretically will only take us to the levels we expected to be at depending on position? IDK. the more I thought about that because of the larger roster, the less I am concerned. Obviously it would hurt more with a QB injury but yeah you can only control what you can.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on February 12, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
You people keep missing the point on this micro-season. As if I truly give a crap about the virus anymore? I am well aware of what is right and wrong. It does not matter if you live in the "Sticks" Lake, the same rules should be evenly applied. My ONLY concerns are

1. Too damn cold for football & it is not a winter/spring sport. Who wants to go? I have never missed a YSu season & I am begging for this one to go away..
2. There are going to be injuries in this season, just like any other. Just what kind of shape do you think any team will be in, come July, after the previous season ended just a month earlier? NDSU will we be the best team in the league...by attrition.

Smarten up. Accept the fact that we missed the 2020-2021 season.  We all have to do the same thing so no other conference team has any advantage. I am rooting for ISU this whole season. Again this has NOTHING to do with the virus.

Too cold? Have you not been to one of our November / December home games? We play colder home games than NDSU  ;D lol.

Also.. if we skip spring season we're going to miss out on developing our very young roster. Do we want to go into Fall with 8 less games of experience than the rest of the conference? I understand the injury risk but I think the lack of reps are significant as well.


No. That is exactly why I said that EVERYONE needs to do it.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on February 13, 2021, 09:34:54 AM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 13, 2021, 11:27:55 AM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

The authors of the study you shared recommend continued use of masks and social distancing.

“Public health measures for the prevention and control of COVID-19 epidemic, including wearing masks, keeping safe social distancing in Wuhan should be sustained.”

I’m all for doing your own research but at some point you have to consider what the experts think.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 13, 2021, 11:29:35 AM
You people keep missing the point on this micro-season. As if I truly give a crap about the virus anymore? I am well aware of what is right and wrong. It does not matter if you live in the "Sticks" Lake, the same rules should be evenly applied. My ONLY concerns are

1. Too damn cold for football & it is not a winter/spring sport. Who wants to go? I have never missed a YSu season & I am begging for this one to go away..
2. There are going to be injuries in this season, just like any other. Just what kind of shape do you think any team will be in, come July, after the previous season ended just a month earlier? NDSU will we be the best team in the league...by attrition.

Smarten up. Accept the fact that we missed the 2020-2021 season.  We all have to do the same thing so no other conference team has any advantage. I am rooting for ISU this whole season. Again this has NOTHING to do with the virus.

Too cold? Have you not been to one of our November / December home games? We play colder home games than NDSU  ;D lol.

Also.. if we skip spring season we're going to miss out on developing our very young roster. Do we want to go into Fall with 8 less games of experience than the rest of the conference? I understand the injury risk but I think the lack of reps are significant as well.


No. That is exactly why I said that EVERYONE needs to do it.

Sorry IAA I skimmed your post my bad
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on February 13, 2021, 12:01:15 PM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

The authors of the study you shared recommend continued use of masks and social distancing.

“Public health measures for the prevention and control of COVID-19 epidemic, including wearing masks, keeping safe social distancing in Wuhan should be sustained.”

I’m all for doing your own research but at some point you have to consider what the experts think.

So that is an opinion, that conflicts with their own findings, which unambiguously was “ there was no evidence that the identified asymptomatic positive cases were infectious.”

“Expert opinion” is the lowest ranking form of evidence in the hierarchy of evidence.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2702.2003.00662.x

Contradictory opinions are frequently incorporated in modern medical literature as research funding is stripped if thee is noncompliance with official narratives.

There are physician groups with thousands of “expert” members that oppose CDC recommendations. Again, if you’re considering known and proven corrupt organizations such as the CDC as “experts”, then you’ll be misinformed. It’s that simple. Read about the CDC vaccine advisory panels conflicts of interest.  The UPI did great work on that topic. The British Medical Journal did good work on CDC flu vaccine data fraud and corruption. The info is out there...but not on the propaganda box.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 16, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
Lots of youth for this team.

4 guys on the OL making their first starts.

All 3 corners are all freshmen or RS freshmen and will be starting for the 1st time.

London Pearson starts at RB, not Turner.

Waid and Craycraft both will play at QB.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: go guins on February 17, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Lots of youth for this team.

4 guys on the OL making their first starts.

All 3 corners are all freshmen or RS freshmen and will be starting for the 1st time.

London Pearson starts at RB, not Turner.

Waid and Craycraft both will play at QB.
And we get to start in the Buffalo Dome against the defending and predicted national champions!  Hope we limit our injuries and mental damage.  DP has he hands full starting out. 
But experience gained this winter/spring will be HUGE plus going into football season this fall. 
Bet you $2 DP would like to recruit either freshman or transfer RB's if he had a chance.  When you have as many questions about QBs as we have, a solid running game would certainly be a help. 
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Penquin68 on February 18, 2021, 07:34:28 PM
I know we got a dozen or so mid year transfers.  I thought they were eligible to play this spring. I recall a running back from a lower level school, D2 I think who was highly thought of, who doesn't seem to appear. I didn't check closely, but just how many of those transfers made the two deep for the game?
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 18, 2021, 08:59:27 PM
I know we got a dozen or so mid year transfers.  I thought they were eligible to play this spring. I recall a running back from a lower level school, D2 I think who was highly thought of, who doesn't seem to appear. I didn't check closely, but just how many of those transfers made the two deep for the game?

Ogletree at TE from Findlay

Mbodj at WR from Cincinnati

McLaughlin at RB from Notre Dame College

Jones at SS from Vandy (was here last year)

Lenton at FS from Florida

Grant Dixon at MLB from Marist

Eddington at DT from Eastern Michigan

Anthony Johnson at DT from Bowling Green

Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: penguinpower on February 19, 2021, 07:02:01 AM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

Spot in.  The problem is when someone know someone that died from covid-19 their confirmation bias reinforces the media narrative which is not what the statistics say.  Since most people don't know how to analyze the information they aren't able to use statistics to perform hypothesis testing.  Bottom line is the media is to blame for falsely claiming that 400,000 people died from Covid-19 and never having the "remote curiosity" to investigate the numbers.  In fact they are part of the he agenda and tools used to push a narrative.  No other way to say it.  It was all about destroying small businesses while trying to steal and election.  It also prepares the US for *The Great Reset" and UN 2030.  Problem is they are so bold that out it in writing for everyone to see.  Look it up in the UN website.  It's all there, but Operation Mockingbird has failed for a large portion of the population.

This is one of the greatest fraud schemes to ever be done to the American people.  Fascist government and corporate partnership to pull it off.  Problem is that they showed their hand in the process of doing it. 
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 19, 2021, 11:45:58 AM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

Spot in.  The problem is when someone know someone that died from covid-19 their confirmation bias reinforces the media narrative which is not what the statistics say.  Since most people don't know how to analyze the information they aren't able to use statistics to perform hypothesis testing.  Bottom line is the media is to blame for falsely claiming that 400,000 people died from Covid-19 and never having the "remote curiosity" to investigate the numbers.  In fact they are part of the he agenda and tools used to push a narrative.  No other way to say it.  It was all about destroying small businesses while trying to steal and election.  It also prepares the US for *The Great Reset" and UN 2030.  Problem is they are so bold that out it in writing for everyone to see.  Look it up in the UN website.  It's all there, but Operation Mockingbird has failed for a large portion of the population.

This is one of the greatest fraud schemes to ever be done to the American people.  Fascist government and corporate partnership to pull it off.  Problem is that they showed their hand in the process of doing it.

Look, this is a football forum... but you might want to lookup the concept of “excess mortality” if you want to know if the pandemic is real
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: penguinpower on February 19, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

Spot in.  The problem is when someone know someone that died from covid-19 their confirmation bias reinforces the media narrative which is not what the statistics say.  Since most people don't know how to analyze the information they aren't able to use statistics to perform hypothesis testing.  Bottom line is the media is to blame for falsely claiming that 400,000 people died from Covid-19 and never having the "remote curiosity" to investigate the numbers.  In fact they are part of the he agenda and tools used to push a narrative.  No other way to say it.  It was all about destroying small businesses while trying to steal and election.  It also prepares the US for *The Great Reset" and UN 2030.  Problem is they are so bold that out it in writing for everyone to see.  Look it up in the UN website.  It's all there, but Operation Mockingbird has failed for a large portion of the population.

This is one of the greatest fraud schemes to ever be done to the American people.  Fascist government and corporate partnership to pull it off.  Problem is that they showed their hand in the process of doing it.

Look, this is a football forum... but you might want to lookup the concept of “excess mortality” if you want to know if the pandemic is real

There isn't any.  That was my point moron
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 19, 2021, 02:23:42 PM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

Spot in.  The problem is when someone know someone that died from covid-19 their confirmation bias reinforces the media narrative which is not what the statistics say.  Since most people don't know how to analyze the information they aren't able to use statistics to perform hypothesis testing.  Bottom line is the media is to blame for falsely claiming that 400,000 people died from Covid-19 and never having the "remote curiosity" to investigate the numbers.  In fact they are part of the he agenda and tools used to push a narrative.  No other way to say it.  It was all about destroying small businesses while trying to steal and election.  It also prepares the US for *The Great Reset" and UN 2030.  Problem is they are so bold that out it in writing for everyone to see.  Look it up in the UN website.  It's all there, but Operation Mockingbird has failed for a large portion of the population.

This is one of the greatest fraud schemes to ever be done to the American people.  Fascist government and corporate partnership to pull it off.  Problem is that they showed their hand in the process of doing it.

Look, this is a football forum... but you might want to lookup the concept of “excess mortality” if you want to know if the pandemic is real

There isn't any.  That was my point moron

“Excess mortality” is a specific calculation used by pathologists to correctly calculate the impact that a disease has on mortality rate. Your calculations are not using the correct excess mortality formula, which takes into account expected versus actual deaths by comparing death counts to averages.

Around 500,000 more Americans died in 2020 than the average of the last 5 years

Problem with using death rate alone is that the rate of increase had been decreasing until 2020 when it stopped decreasing because of Covid. Death rate alone can mask actual mortality impact which is why excess mortality exists as a calculation


Here’s a good breakdown of true excess mortality in the us https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: penguinpower on February 19, 2021, 05:59:04 PM
These are 18-22 year olds in top physical shape they will be fine. quit babying this generation.  NDSU players all got Covid last June July preparing for Fall 2020 like Clemson & Alabama did.
 Why didn't YSU ISU or whomever?

Regardless.  I want YSU to have a good program,  its good for FCS!!

Wish that I had a dollar for every time in the past year I have heard the argument that the young and in shape basically have nothing to worry about. Sounds great but is a shallow argument, it is not just about the 18 - 22 year old's, the concern should be with the parents, grandparents, coaches and others that may come in contact with the 18 - 22 year old's. Not all of these folks are able to handle covid.  It is not about babying anyone, there are more important things in life than football.


Well said.

For your own good, turn off the propaganda box and do some research. Misinformation is much more dangerous than a lack of information. You are being manipulated and deceived so that you embrace tyranny. Research Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Bernstein’s work on CIA manipulation of the corporate media. Read about CDC corruption and conflicts of interest. Read about the CDC Swine Flu scandal in 1976.

Regarding 18 - 22 year olds, their infection fatality rate is essentially zero. Will they murder grandma if they don’t live like an obedient  prisoner? Of course not. The largest clinical trial ever done with a sample size of over 10 million participants (!) showed ZERO...ZERO.....cases of asymptomatic spread.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

I’m sure this will be deleted for non-conformity with the propaganda narratives.  Regarding the Penguins, players play and winners win. Play the damn games.

Spot in.  The problem is when someone know someone that died from covid-19 their confirmation bias reinforces the media narrative which is not what the statistics say.  Since most people don't know how to analyze the information they aren't able to use statistics to perform hypothesis testing.  Bottom line is the media is to blame for falsely claiming that 400,000 people died from Covid-19 and never having the "remote curiosity" to investigate the numbers.  In fact they are part of the he agenda and tools used to push a narrative.  No other way to say it.  It was all about destroying small businesses while trying to steal and election.  It also prepares the US for *The Great Reset" and UN 2030.  Problem is they are so bold that out it in writing for everyone to see.  Look it up in the UN website.  It's all there, but Operation Mockingbird has failed for a large portion of the population.

This is one of the greatest fraud schemes to ever be done to the American people.  Fascist government and corporate partnership to pull it off.  Problem is that they showed their hand in the process of doing it.

Look, this is a football forum... but you might want to lookup the concept of “excess mortality” if you want to know if the pandemic is real

There isn't any.  That was my point moron

“Excess mortality” is a specific calculation used by pathologists to correctly calculate the impact that a disease has on mortality rate. Your calculations are not using the correct excess mortality formula, which takes into account expected versus actual deaths by comparing death counts to averages.

Around 500,000 more Americans died in 2020 than the average of the last 5 years

Problem with using death rate alone is that the rate of increase had been decreasing until 2020 when it stopped decreasing because of Covid. Death rate alone can mask actual mortality impact which is why excess mortality exists as a calculation


Here’s a good breakdown of true excess mortality in the us https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid



Wrong.  Total deaths didn't increase regardless of your bad information.  If this was the case total deaths would be in excess of normal mortality rate.  That means the percentage of deaths would have increased.  It didn't.  The facts are that the total number of deaths didn't increase by as a percentage of the total population.   Get a clue.  You have ZERO basis for your claims.  My data came straight from the CDC. 
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: guinpen on February 19, 2021, 06:55:59 PM
So about the game, interested to see how the new/younger players perform and respond to the new coach.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Kandrase on February 19, 2021, 10:37:35 PM
So about the game, interested to see how the new/younger players perform and respond to the new coach.

Thanks for the topic change Guinpen. Like others have stated I’m most curious to see if the team plays the whole game. It’s gonna get ugly, so I’m very curious to see how they handle adversity. Also curious about the QB situation. I know Craycraft will start, but wondering if anyone else will get PT
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Wick250 on February 19, 2021, 11:22:12 PM
Does anyone else think that this game has the feel of a season opener against a P5 opponent where we are just content with "a good showing?"  No expectations should translate into no pressure. I hope that our players approach this game with that attitude.  On rare occasions, you get a Pittsburgh result.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on February 20, 2021, 04:11:24 PM
No I do not  feel that way at all ...I expect to win at ANY I-AA/FCS opponent. I would love it if they would just jog through the entire season though. Equal playing time for both 1's and 2's at every game. Treat it like pre-season should be treated

That being said, I just sat in front of my TV only to see that the game is tomorrow! Who ever heard of such a thing? I canceled plans.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Penquin68 on February 20, 2021, 11:10:48 PM
I saw the Vindicator article today.  They didn't even put in the writeup that the game is on local TV, just ESPN+. They sure don't keep up with the local team. Too bad.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Double ET on February 21, 2021, 06:35:05 AM
I saw the Vindicator article today.  They didn't even put in the writeup that the game is on local TV, just ESPN+. They sure don't keep up with the local team. Too bad.

I don’t know if it is a local competition thing. As I recall, in the past, other local TV stations would not advertise game being televised by one of their competitors.

I don’t want to be too hard on Tribune/Vindy, YSU athletic website also only lists ESPN+ as the Video broadcast site.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 21, 2021, 07:02:52 AM
I saw the Vindicator article today.  They didn't even put in the writeup that the game is on local TV, just ESPN+. They sure don't keep up with the local team. Too bad.

I don’t know if it is a local competition thing. As I recall, in the past, other local TV stations would not advertise game being televised by one of their competitors.

I don’t want to be too hard on Tribune/Vindy, YSU athletic website also only lists ESPN+ as the Video broadcast site.

https://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2020-21/releases/radio-tv-spring
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: Double ET on February 21, 2021, 07:54:45 AM
I saw the Vindicator article today.  They didn't even put in the writeup that the game is on local TV, just ESPN+. They sure don't keep up with the local team. Too bad.

I don’t know if it is a local competition thing. As I recall, in the past, other local TV stations would not advertise game being televised by one of their competitors.

I don’t want to be too hard on Tribune/Vindy, YSU athletic website also only lists ESPN+ as the Video broadcast site.

https://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2020-21/releases/radio-tv-spring

Thanks for the information. I didn’t see that article. I was referring to the YSU sport website for football schedule where it lists the links to radio, tv, live stats. I use that to find out the TV broadcast for a specific YSU game.
In football or basketball games, they are typically carried on ESPN, espn2, espn3, espou or ESPN+. The listed link guides me the proper streaming service.
I subscribed to ESPN+ just to watch YSU games especially when I am out of Rowan.
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: guinpen on February 21, 2021, 08:48:10 AM
No I do not  feel that way at all ...I expect to win at ANY I-AA/FCS opponent. I would love it if they would just jog through the entire season though. Equal playing time for both 1's and 2's at every game. Treat it like pre-season should be treated

That being said, I just sat in front of my TV only to see that the game is tomorrow! Who ever heard of such a thing? I canceled plans.

Think that there was a wrestling match scheduled for Sat
Title: Re: YSU @ NDSU
Post by: YSU1 on February 21, 2021, 10:11:20 AM
why can"t we open up with Slippery Rock