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The #1 Jackrabbits come to town next Saturday for a noon kickoff. They are incredibly talented, have 5 ranked wins, and look heavily favored to defend their FCS Title in Frisco again this January.
I would encourage everyone on this board to spread the word and encourage as many YSU fans to come out and be loud and into the game as possible. We aren't competing against the Buckeyes who play in primetime, so I am hopeful we can get a decent turnout.
We need a lot of things to go our way, but that is why they play the games. Our last win over a #1 team was back in 2011 at North Dakota State.
Go YSU
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We need the student body and as many fans to attend. Come out and support the Penguins. Playoff atmosphere. Let’s get loud for these guys. Go Penguins.
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Looks dry and reasonably warm (for November) so far, but you know how forecasts can change.
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Agree IAA fan! I hope the weather forecast holds and comes true! 49 as the high and sunny for Saturday.
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Forecasts are usually much more accurate within 72 hours of the day... so we will see come Thursday
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Fill the stands to at least 13k. Need all the help we can get
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SDSU would win every G5 conference and beat at least half of the teams in the Big Ten. That is what we are up against on Saturday. Fortunately, we have actually played a better team. We played well in Columbus, and I expect a similar effort this Saturday. But realistically the only chance we have is if SDSU makes uncharacteristic mistakes.
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YSU has announced the game will be a Red Out. Regardless of what color you wear, I just hope everyone there treats this like a playoff game and is into the game from the start, especially on third downs!
Beat SDSU!
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I hope more students show up. Red out!!! Let's get 13 to 15k in the stands.!
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From today’s Tribune/Vindy:
https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2023/11/ysu-looks-to-put-it-all-together-in-challenge-vs-no-1-south-dakota-state/
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They have a ton of seniors. We could be in trouble. Let's keep it close in 1st half then see what happens.
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Must Win Game, as is the following week! This BS that they will be taking 5 or 6 team from the MVFC for the play-off is just that ...BS. They only took 2 last year & 3 the year prior. I mean we are ranked below 4 teams in our conference and we have a better record. That is because we are defeating the bottom of the conference. Any loss in the remaining can drop us as low as 7th. Get out there and cheer your Guins to Victory!
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Must Win Game, as is the following week! This BS that they will be taking 5 or 6 team from the MVFC for the play-off is just that ...BS. They only took 2 last year & 3 the year prior. I mean we are ranked below 4 teams in our conference and we have a better record. That is because we are defeating the bottom of the conference. Any loss in the remaining can drop us as low as 7th. Get out there and cheer your Guins to Victory!
Where are you getting your info on the playoffs?
Fall 2022: SDSU, NDSU, and UND made it.
Fall 2021: SDSU, NDSU, MSU, SIU, UNI, USD made it.
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No YSU in playoffs tho.
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With the Red Out our group is bringing RED RALLEY towels to support the Penguins. Let’s go Guins.
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If you look at the top-6 team in the MVFC: YSU has either lost or not played all of them. This is why SDSU is a MUST Win for us. I know it is hard to see a team we have defeated ranked well above us (in SIU), but we are no longer an established power. We are Michigan prior to 3-years ago. We should also think about this when it comes to scheduling. Here are the current rankings by the coaches, which is pretty much the way things will be for play-off selection:
SDSU: 1
SD: 6
UND: 12
NDSU: 14
SIU: 15
UNI: 20
YSU: 26
Teams in Bold are the teams we have faced ranked in the top-24 (the number of teams in the post-season). All 3 are losses. The lone remaining team (we have yet to face) in the top-24 is SDSU. So, now the team knows what they have to do, show up and win a game. The fans know what they have to do, show up and support your team. So let's do it!!!
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Last night on our weekly We Are Youngstown Twitter Space Listen Here (https://x.com/i/spaces/1zqKVqvZZRlxB) we had an SDSU fan on to talk about their squad. I knew they had a stout defense, but boy they are loaded with depth across the board on that side of the ball. We will need to find a way to get our rushing attack going and hope Mitch can do what he has done so well this year... take what the defense gives him. Hope we get a nice contingent of YSU fans out there for this one!
Go YSU!
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I hope we will play an error free game tomorrow.
We might very well be the only NCAA football team this year who has played or will play both #1 ranked teams in FCS and FBS.
Go penguins.
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First game for me in person since before covid and with our two MVFC losses by a combined 6 points I'm feeling hopeful that we'll make a good showing today. I'll have my red on...GO GUINS!!!
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Let's goooooooo guins!
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Looks like 5 ppl at the game. SMH.
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Need to get something going on offense
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Wow no call on the push off?
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Looks like hardly any crowd? Hard too tell? What 5k in seats
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As someone in the seats it's likely 8-10 k
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Thx hard too tell they never show many crowd shots
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One of the worst officiating crews I have ever seen.
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Exactly! what I thought! Too many mistakes, not ready to play a game of this magnitude! Well! No play offs again this year! South Dakota St just doing anything they want!
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This game was over when YSU decided to punt on 4th and less than 1 in the Q1 after building some offensive momentum on a drive.
They had two downs to get 1 yard. They couldn't.
Instead of going for it (near mid-field-ish), they punted.
You don't punt the ball to the undefeated, #1 team in the nation who is on a 23-game win streak when you're totally outmatched, playing at home, and have the playoffs on the line.
You play to win and you go for that first down.
And if you can't get 1 yard on THREE downs, you don't deserve to win or make the playoffs.
SDSU got the ball and they never looked back.
See you next season.
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Exactly! See you next season, and now SD St gets the ball to start the second half!
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I am really disappointed in the student section basically 6 students 😔
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When you play the #1 team in the country and you have shown little ability to stop them, you need to play to win.
Our play calling and decision making by the coaching staff have been terrible all season long.
We just gave up along kickoff as well as a td reception to start the 2nd half. This we’ll be ugly.
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I thought it was just me who noticed I pathetic play calling all season! Guess not!
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I thought it was just me who noticed I pathetic play calling all season! Guess not!
No, you are right on. Last game, on 4 th and 10, we had 2 offsite penalties in a row by the same guy to hand the 1 st down.
Any competent coach would have reminded the guys not to jump offsite. The same guy did it twice with a running start to anticipate the snap count. Who are coaching these guys.
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Epic fail from coaches, team, fans, athletic Department, marketing of this game.
Season is done. SD did what the wanted and even disrespected us by doing the Penguin dance on us
Dollar General budget, gives you this product. Offense has no explosive players other than Oliver, average Rb’s and a system QB. Defense what Defense.
We will never be an upper tier team in this conference. Ever.
How long are we going to stay in a conference that has literally blew up this program and other than a lucky catch has done nothing but be everyone’s homecoming game.
Just upset sorry
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our secondary is terrible!
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This team doesn't deserve to make playoffs
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As I've been saying all year. Playoff do not matter when you can't beat the top team.
We need to get one more class of recruiting and need another year. Most of our players are sophomores and freshmen
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LOL, you fools actually thought this team had a chance in this game with this weenie small time coaching staff??? These losers should be coaching D2. But hey, be glad those donor checks are still coming in since they hand picked a high school principal as head coach. They will not make the playoffs and the program is going nowhere under this loser.
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With these assistant coaches, I don’t care what players we have or will be bringing in, we will not be able to challenge the upper half of the conference.
If we want to make the playoff, switch to another conference. With the limited budget due to declining enrollments, we simply could not stay competitive in this conference.
I hate to say it. We just can’t afford to have championship caliber football any longer.
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...and here I thought my presence jinxed the game...sorry guys. Yes, some of the play calling was painful to watch but the lack of calls our way and a touchdown called back for no targeting was completely demoralizing. See you on the board sometime down the road, back to another long hibernation.
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Disappointing effort today, not saying we should have won but the team just looked blah!
No running game again.
Refs in this league really are 3rd rate!
Media timeout guy spent more time on the field then our offense.
Defense peaked with Southern Ill
Would love it if it happens but not so sure we are playoff worthy.
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LOL, you fools actually thought this team had a chance in this game with this weenie small time coaching staff??? These losers should be coaching D2. But hey, be glad those donor checks are still coming in since they hand picked a high school principal as head coach. They will not make the playoffs and the program is going nowhere under this loser.
For all of the Phillips haters out there, you know nothing about what he's down and what he's doing. As I have stated earlier, we are missing 2 players on defense and 2 on offense that would be game changers. But as I've stated many times, we have a ton of youth on the team. They played a team with a ton of 6th year seniors due to the plandemic. That is the standard.
I didn't expect to win but I expected a more competitive game
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I can’t even start!! We stink. We don’t deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Refs suck!!
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Power we got handled on Senior day and shut out. We are more than 4 players away from being at upper tier level in our conference.
Issues next year? Whose. Our QB? We need playmakers on both sides of the ball, The defense is as bad or worse when Wolford was here.
Next year will be another rebuild. I heard a comment that we only had 1 transfer last year lowest in league. Which in our league transfers are important
Don’t get me on the dumb play calling when Brungard was in even a toddler knew he was running.
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Epic fail from coaches, team, fans, athletic Department, marketing of this game.
Season is done. SD did what the wanted and even disrespected us by doing the Penguin dance on us
Dollar General budget, gives you this product. Offense has no explosive players other than Oliver, average Rb’s and a system QB. Defense what Defense.
We will never be an upper tier team in this conference. Ever.
How long are we going to stay in a conference that has literally blew up this program and other than a lucky catch has done nothing but be everyone’s homecoming game.
Just upset sorry
Spot on!! So disgusted!! Been around this program for 40 years and can’t take it anymore. Lucky to have 500 season ticket holders next year. So disgusted!!
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LOL, you fools actually thought this team had a chance in this game with this weenie small time coaching staff??? These losers should be coaching D2. But hey, be glad those donor checks are still coming in since they hand picked a high school principal as head coach. They will not make the playoffs and the program is going nowhere under this loser.
For all of the Phillips haters out there, you know nothing about what he's down and what he's doing. As I have stated earlier, we are missing 2 players on defense and 2 on offense that would be game changers. But as I've stated many times, we have a ton of youth on the team. They played a team with a ton of 6th year seniors due to the plandemic. That is the standard.
I didn't expect to win but I expected a more competitive game
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I do not get the anti Phillips stuff, we are not where we want to be yet but are getting closer.
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I think I’m done!! Can’t take it anymore!!!
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We need 2 on the DL and 2 on the OL. That's it. And a QB next year
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Well 7-4 this year. If it wasn’t this years team getting to the playoffs I highly doubt it’ll be next year. Good season. See you next year.
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Also. Can we get under center!!!!! Unreal!! Put Davidson under center with both backs split!! We stink!!
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So disgusting!!
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Epic fail from coaches, team, fans, athletic Department, marketing of this game.
Season is done. SD did what the wanted and even disrespected us by doing the Penguin dance on us
Dollar General budget, gives you this product. Offense has no explosive players other than Oliver, average Rb’s and a system QB. Defense what Defense.
We will never be an upper tier team in this conference. Ever.
How long are we going to stay in a conference that has literally blew up this program and other than a lucky catch has done nothing but be everyone’s homecoming game.
Just upset sorry
Spot on!! So disgusted!! Been around this program for 40 years and can’t take it anymore. Lucky to have 500 season ticket holders next year. So disgusted!!
We’ll always have those great memories of the long lost past Stick
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This team will be worse next year and Mr. Principal will continue to make his little nerdy jokes and laugh it off. This program is a joke.
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While I agree and disagree with a lot said in this thread. Many of you are posting as if a non ranked team was supposed to beat the #1 ranked team who hasn’t lost to ANYONE in the last 23 attempts. Hahaha. Not sure if y’all were aware but we did NOT just lose to Butler. Look I’m a fan and love this team win or lose and I too get pissed off but if anyone thought for a millisecond that we had any chance to win this game you were absolutely dreaming.
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We were not going to beat SDSU, the best FCS team that I have seen since Appalachian State over 15 years ago. We puked away the season at UNI with those two idiotic quarterback sneaks that murdered our momentum. And by allowing that pedestrian quarterback at South Dakota to mimic a Heisman candidate.
Today I reached a personal milestone: attendance at every single home football game for 50 years (1974 season to the present.) The way I feel this evening, that string is over. I'm done. If the athletic department reads this post, laugh at me all you want. But when you lose fans like Stick and me, you are doomed.
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They need to stop scheduling teams like Ohio State. Had they not scheduled that game they would be sitting with 3 losses heading into a winnable game and more than likely the playoffs. Your season shouldn't come down to having to beat the number 1 team in the country that hasn't lost since last September to Iowa and won the title last year. Consistently making the playoffs is good for recruiting not getting crushed by FBS schools but it's all about the money sadly, so hope that money was worth another year of no playoffs . Also get out of this conference. Doesn't matter how good the conference is when you get your balls beat in year in and year out. Back in the Gateway we couldn't beat Western Kentucky, Southern Illinois, and UNI. Now it's the Dakota schools. Just over the same garbage year in and year out.
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We were not going to beat SDSU, the best FCS team that I have seen since Appalachian State over 15 years ago. We puked away the season at UNI with those two idiotic quarterback sneaks that murdered our momentum. And by allowing that pedestrian quarterback at South Dakota to mimic a Heisman candidate.
Today I reached a personal milestone: attendance at every single home football game for 50 years (1974 season to the present.) The way I feel this evening, that string is over. I'm done. If the athletic department reads this post, laugh at me all you want. But when you lose fans like Stick and me, you are doomed.
Wick, congrats on your milestone, impressive. I started a couple of years before you but have missed 5-6 games as I recall.
Like alot of folks I have been very frustrated over the years, lots of people over the years that you can point your finger at.
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Very disappointing loss yesterday. I really thought we would play better. They had to put it all together and between play calling and refs couldn’t keep it close. But it’s about those seniors and the remainder of those players putting in all that time in the weight room, film room and practice field. Focus on Murray State and put the best game of the year together. We will then see what the committee thinks. I am not going to jump on the fire coach Phillips ban wagon but am curious when is his contract up? GO GUINS
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They need to stop scheduling teams like Ohio State. Had they not scheduled that game they would be sitting with 3 losses heading into a winnable game and more than likely the playoffs. Your season shouldn't come down to having to beat the number 1 team in the country that hasn't lost since last September to Iowa and won the title last year. Consistently making the playoffs is good for recruiting not getting crushed by FBS schools but it's all about the money sadly, so hope that money was worth another year of no playoffs . Also get out of this conference. Doesn't matter how good the conference is when you get your balls beat in year in and year out. Back in the Gateway we couldn't beat Western Kentucky, Southern Illinois, and UNI. Now it's the Dakota schools. Just over the same garbage year in and year out.
Sorry, but you're wrong on multiple fronts here. First, athletics benefits from scheduling games like Ohio State because of the big pay day. From an athletic department our size, we need pay days. Second, we're not making the playoffs because of our in conference record and lack of quality wins, not because we lost to Ohio State. That's just completely and utterly silly. You think suddenly if we took Ohio State off the schedule and won against a cupcake that we'd make the playoffs? Absolutely not. It comes down to winning the games you need to win, I.e. Northern Iowa and South Dakota. Period.
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33 YO great point. You need to win to get in and beat teams in your conference period.
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33YO I'm not saying the athletic department doesn't benefit from scheduling Ohio State but what I'm saying is everyone complains when we miss the playoffs with 4 losses and are a bubble team. Well then stop scheduling guaranteed losses and schedule a cupcake game. If you recall that's what Tress did hence why we played Slippery Rock every year. Guess what though we made the playoffs every year and made an impact. Playing OSU then playing the gauntlet of this schedule equals no playoffs. You can disagree but it's the truth. Hope the money is worth it.
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I think we need another FCS team on our schedule like we did Villanova! Not two FCS want-to-bes like Valpo and RMU! SFU and Dayton are a little bit better but do you think the committee would be impressed with two blow out wins over them! I don't know! I we tried to get Akron and EKU before covid. That would have been a worthy schedule! Especially with a win over Akron!
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33YO I'm not saying the athletic department doesn't benefit from scheduling Ohio State but what I'm saying is everyone complains when we miss the playoffs with 4 losses and are a bubble team. Well then stop scheduling guaranteed losses and schedule a cupcake game. If you recall that's what Tress did hence why we played Slippery Rock every year. Guess what though we made the playoffs every year and made an impact. Playing OSU then playing the gauntlet of this schedule equals no playoffs. You can disagree but it's the truth. Hope the money is worth it.
Where do you expect this athletic department to get the $800,000 it received this year from Ohio State?
Do you know how quickly that is used up in just charter flights to other schools in the conference?
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Here is simple solution for our money issues.
Yea keep playing that money game each year but how about more fans put their butts in a seat. 11,000 more per game at $20.00 for 6 home games would bring in about 1.3 million extra per year, not to mention parking and concessions.
That would give us the needed funds to upgrade the coaching staff like a lot of folks want. So you can make a case that the future of the football program is in our hands.
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33YO I'm not saying the athletic department doesn't benefit from scheduling Ohio State but what I'm saying is everyone complains when we miss the playoffs with 4 losses and are a bubble team. Well then stop scheduling guaranteed losses and schedule a cupcake game. If you recall that's what Tress did hence why we played Slippery Rock every year. Guess what though we made the playoffs every year and made an impact. Playing OSU then playing the gauntlet of this schedule equals no playoffs. You can disagree but it's the truth. Hope the money is worth it.
AGAIN - scheduling a cupcake doesn't make a difference for us. The difference is winning the games IN CONFERENCE.
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33YO I'm not saying the athletic department doesn't benefit from scheduling Ohio State but what I'm saying is everyone complains when we miss the playoffs with 4 losses and are a bubble team. Well then stop scheduling guaranteed losses and schedule a cupcake game. If you recall that's what Tress did hence why we played Slippery Rock every year. Guess what though we made the playoffs every year and made an impact. Playing OSU then playing the gauntlet of this schedule equals no playoffs. You can disagree but it's the truth. Hope the money is worth it.
Where do you expect this athletic department to get the $800,000 it received this year from Ohio State?
Do you know how quickly that is used up in just charter flights to other schools in the conference?
But that's the point. It's paying for expenses we wouldn't otherwise get.
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People need some perspective here, so I will give mine.
1. I don't think anyone beats that team this year (SDSU).
2. What people need to realize is we are better than 90% of the FCS. The problem is that we play in a conference that's the absolute best of the best. In general, whomever wins the MVFC is the likely winner of the national championship.
3. That had a team full of 6 year seniors and we are playing mostly Freshman and Sophomores.
4. I heard that Phillips was willing to speed up the transformation of the team, but was limited by the AD. In addition, His first recruiting year was shorted scholarships due to NCAA rules violations by Pelini.
5. If we get into the playoffs, and there's a chance we will (look at the remaining schedule) we would do a lot of damage in the playoffs. We would finish in the top 15 easily.
6. We weren't aggressive enough against SDSU. It looked to me that we were trying to keep it close and get it into the 4th quarter, but they were able to shut down the run game completely. Then we were doomed.
7. We have legitimate complaints about the referees in this game. When they took that TD off the board, it was the turning point.
Keep the perspective. We need a couple more kids. We win will 2 more on offense and 2 more on defense (on the lines).
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33YO I'm not saying the athletic department doesn't benefit from scheduling Ohio State but what I'm saying is everyone complains when we miss the playoffs with 4 losses and are a bubble team. Well then stop scheduling guaranteed losses and schedule a cupcake game. If you recall that's what Tress did hence why we played Slippery Rock every year. Guess what though we made the playoffs every year and made an impact. Playing OSU then playing the gauntlet of this schedule equals no playoffs. You can disagree but it's the truth. Hope the money is worth it.
AGAIN - scheduling a cupcake doesn't make a difference for us. The difference is winning the games IN CONFERENCE.
33YO you can argue with me all you want. The bottome line I've been watching YSU games before they were even in a conference so scheduling a cupcake game and not scheduling a guaranteed loss would of got us in this year would have got us in last year. That's how you generate money you stop getting crushed by FBS teams and you consistently make the playoffs and make a run at a Natty. The money game has kept us out in 2005 crushed by Pitt, 2007 crushed by Ohio State, 2013 crushed by Michigan State. All years we ended up with 3 or 4 losses and kept out by 1 game. Again, hope the money is worth it.
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People need some perspective here, so I will give mine.
1. I don't think anyone beats that team this year (SDSU).
2. What people need to realize is we are better than 90% of the FCS. The problem is that we play in a conference that's the absolute best of the best. In general, whomever wins the MVFC is the likely winner of the national championship.
3. That had a team full of 6 year seniors and we are playing mostly Freshman and Sophomores.
4. I heard that Phillips was willing to speed up the transformation of the team, but was limited by the AD. In addition, His first recruiting year was shorted scholarships due to NCAA rules violations by Pelini.
5. If we get into the playoffs, and there's a chance we will (look at the remaining schedule) we would do a lot of damage in the playoffs. We would finish in the top 15 easily.
6. We weren't aggressive enough against SDSU. It looked to me that we were trying to keep it close and get it into the 4th quarter, but they were able to shut down the run game completely. Then we were doomed.
7. We have legitimate complaints about the referees in this game. When they took that TD off the board, it was the turning point.
Keep the perspective. We need a couple more kids. We win will 2 more on offense and 2 more on defense (on the lines).
Power every year it’s the same conference is the best again what’s the point of being in this conference when we can’t get past the top 4 teams
The refs didn’t beat us stop it.
That team beat us as soon as they got of the bus.
Being better than 90 percent of all the other schools means nothing.
We fricken didn’t even score.
Then Davidson post game press conference sounded like an ass saying they weren’t nothing special lol. Then made the same excuse they had a lot of 6 year players. Very sad.
This football program and the YSU administration needs to do some soul searching. We have become a second rate school in the conference an afterthought to the local fans and it’s just excuse after excuse.
If the basketball team can win another 20 games they have become the number one program at the school.
It kills me to say it.
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People need some perspective here, so I will give mine.
1. I don't think anyone beats that team this year (SDSU).
2. What people need to realize is we are better than 90% of the FCS. The problem is that we play in a conference that's the absolute best of the best. In general, whomever wins the MVFC is the likely winner of the national championship.
3. That had a team full of 6 year seniors and we are playing mostly Freshman and Sophomores.
4. I heard that Phillips was willing to speed up the transformation of the team, but was limited by the AD. In addition, His first recruiting year was shorted scholarships due to NCAA rules violations by Pelini.
5. If we get into the playoffs, and there's a chance we will (look at the remaining schedule) we would do a lot of damage in the playoffs. We would finish in the top 15 easily.
6. We weren't aggressive enough against SDSU. It looked to me that we were trying to keep it close and get it into the 4th quarter, but they were able to shut down the run game completely. Then we were doomed.
7. We have legitimate complaints about the referees in this game. When they took that TD off the board, it was the turning point.
Keep the perspective. We need a couple more kids. We win will 2 more on offense and 2 more on defense (on the lines).
Power every year it’s the same conference is the best again what’s the point of being in this conference when we can’t get past the top 4 teams
The refs didn’t beat us stop it.
That team beat us as soon as they got of the bus.
Being better than 90 percent of all the other schools means nothing.
We fricken didn’t even score.
Then Davidson post game press conference sounded like an ass saying they weren’t nothing special lol. Then made the same excuse they had a lot of 6 year players. Very sad.
This football program and the YSU administration needs to do some soul searching. We have become a second rate school in the conference an afterthought to the local fans and it’s just excuse after excuse.
If the basketball team can win another 20 games they have become the number one program at the school.
It kills me to say it.
Go, I do not like the conference either, mostly because the western schools do not interest me, but that is where we are. What other conference would you suggest would be a good fit and would want us.
Power is correct about the refs, you never know how a bad decision can affect a game, but the point is that we have a legitimate compliant.
I would say that being better then 90 percent of all the other schools is pretty darn good.
I hope that the basketball team does win 20 games, but to think that would make them the number 1 sport is a big stretch. Certainly a basketball game will never have an announced crowd of over 9000. Maybe a sellout once in a blue moon but football will remain the big dog for years to come.
You, myself and many others are frustrated, plenty of areas to place blame, AD, admin coaches etc.
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Here is simple solution for our money issues.
Yea keep playing that money game each year but how about more fans put their butts in a seat. 11,000 more per game at $20.00 for 6 home games would bring in about 1.3 million extra per year, not to mention parking and concessions.
That would give us the needed funds to upgrade the coaching staff like a lot of folks want. So you can make a case that the future of the football program is in our hands.
Likewise, a lot more people purchase tailgate tickets than go to the games, it is really a habit. So you may think there is only about 150 people with tickets, but I bet it is closer to 250. Those are season tickets. That is another $50k to $75k. Not to mention there is a great amount of missed opportunity there.
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I can almost assure you we are not even on the committee's radar after that debacle!