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Title: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: ysuindy on April 19, 2011, 12:50:55 PM
http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/extras/colleges_blog/2011/04/umass_moving_to.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/extras/colleges_blog/2011/04/umass_moving_to.html)


More change coming for the Colonial -with Villanova's potential move to the Big East still a possibility? 

Delaware
Georgia State (joins CAA play in 2012)
James Madison
Maine
UMass (leaving for MAC in 2012)
New Hampshire
Old Dominion (joins CAA play in 2011)
Richmond
Rhode Island (Leaving the CAA for the Northeast Conference in 2013)
Towson
Villanova
William & Mary

We all know I hate the YSU get out of the Gateway discussions but YSU might be attractive to the Colonial if they continue to lose football members.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: IAA Fan on April 19, 2011, 02:19:31 PM
Just like Buffalo. The MAC sees a change to get facilities. UMASS will give them Gillette Stadium, and access to the Boston media market.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: Wick250 on April 19, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
It is absolutely imperative that we return to prominence as quickly as possible, so we can operate from a position of strength as we weigh our options.  If Villanova follows U-Mass into FBS status, the CAA will be desperate to retain their nearly automatic four bids into the playoffs.  Schools like Liberty, Stony Brook, and Albany covet CAA membership, but they would do nothing for the prestige of that league.  But a restored YSU program would be irresistable.

Five years ago, I would have been opposed to leaving a midwestern league for one anchored on the east coast.  But the addition of three schools from the Dakotas changes everything.  A conference focused in Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia now makes a lot of sense for us.  Especially with the CAA stature and massive media exposure compared to the MVFC.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: IAA Fan on April 19, 2011, 04:03:39 PM
Yes Wick ...we need to have enough clout to have Mickey Matthews removed prior to joining any conference that he coaches in.   fb
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: YsuPride on April 19, 2011, 06:38:34 PM
It would be a great move to get into the CAA if we get the chance.  Doesn't UMASS avg. way less in attendance than YSU?  Seems like the MAC is getting desperate.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: YSU1 on April 20, 2011, 07:52:29 PM
I thought to get into the MAC you had to participate in all sports. 
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: YSUGO on April 20, 2011, 08:36:39 PM
Nope...Temple is just football as well..

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2011/04/marriage_of_umass_and_mid-amer.html
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: YSUGO on April 20, 2011, 08:40:39 PM
another good link

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2011-04-20-umass-football-move_N.htm
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: guinpen on April 20, 2011, 09:14:02 PM
Wow, they will be playing their "home" games in Foxboro! That is like 95 miles and better part of a 2 hour drive, yea yea their stadium is not big enough yet, but really?
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: IAA Fan on April 21, 2011, 04:36:34 PM
I tell you what. If they lose both Nova and UMass ...conference strength does become more of an issue for the CAA. They will lose GAst as soon as they become eligible for CUSA. Until then, they do not count in schedule strength anyway.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: YSU1 on April 23, 2011, 09:27:21 AM
U Mass averaged 13,000 a game last year.  I guess they will have to import a bunch of fans to meet 1A attendance
requirments 
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: HLecter on April 23, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
U Mass averaged 13,000 a game last year.  I guess they will have to import a bunch of fans to meet 1A attendance
requirments 

That won't be a problem for them.  Akron and Kent seem to do it somehow.  By lying probably.  Or giving tickets away?
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: IAA Fan on April 23, 2011, 06:57:32 PM
U Mass averaged 13,000 a game last year.  I guess they will have to import a bunch of fans to meet 1A attendance
requirments 

That won't be a problem for them.  Akron and Kent seem to do it somehow.  By lying probably.  Or giving tickets away?

Kent and Akron are grandfathered in. All they have to do is meet the previous standards ...30k+ stadium or 15k+ in attendance.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: pittsburghpenguin on April 24, 2011, 11:47:53 AM
There is no old standard on attendance. The new rule is...You have to average 15,000 actual or paid attendance which has to be met once in a rolling two year period.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: guinpen on April 24, 2011, 11:56:36 AM
The mac has been and always will be a wannabe 1A conference.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: IAA Fan on April 24, 2011, 02:53:01 PM
The NCAA admitted they will do nothing to an individual established MAC school, as long as the conference meets the requirements ...I think 15,118 was last year's average attendance. This is why they accepted Temple
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: pittsburghpenguin on April 24, 2011, 06:58:27 PM
I aree quinpen just a wanna be IA conference. At one time i wanted to go the MAC but i'm glad they turned us down. Let's just stay fcs.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: pittsburghpenguin on April 24, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
The NCAA admitted they will do nothing to an individual established MAC school, as long as the conference meets the requirements ...I think 15,118 was last year's average attendance. This is why they accepted Temple

Where did the NCAA admit they would do nothing to an idividual MAC school if the conference meets the requirements? i never saw that before. It's based on each idivudual school. I know the NCAA won't do anything about though because a lot of schools haven't met that requirement.
Title: Re: U Mass to FBS, will join MAC for football only
Post by: IAA Fan on April 25, 2011, 01:48:57 PM
When they first put the rules in place, the NCAA gave the IA schools a moratorium. Then by doing nothing since, they have admitted they will do nothing. Then making the schools sell certain numbers of tickets to meet the requirements, I would say the NCAA is been quite lenient, but far from enforcing their own rules.