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Some fan's in Nebraska believe that Jim Tressel is the most safe and logical choice for them to pursue as their head coach.  Reading the Husker message boards and they have even posted screen shots as Tressel being listed as the leading candidate on on-line casinos. 

Another coaching situation to keep an eye on is UNLV.  I've been to UNLV for a football game and two things, they have zero fan interest, their stadium is an off campus in the middle of the desert dump, and their football facilities are laughable. 

UNLV appears to be so hard up for money for a facility drive that it appears that they are seriously entertaining 30 million dollars from Fertitta family (on of the richest families in Vegas) which would be contingent on them hiring  Bishop Gorman High School (Las Vegas) head coach Tony Sanchez.

From what I've read, it sounds like Sanchez has zero college experience in coaching. 

Obviously the UNLV athletic department has never heard of Gerry Faust.

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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 07:21:43 AM »
Some fan's in Nebraska believe that Jim Tressel is the most safe and logical choice for them to pursue as their head coach.  Reading the Husker message boards and they have even posted screen shots as Tressel being listed as the leading candidate on on-line casinos. 

Another coaching situation to keep an eye on is UNLV.  I've been to UNLV for a football game and two things, they have zero fan interest, their stadium is an off campus in the middle of the desert dump, and their football facilities are laughable. 

UNLV appears to be so hard up for money for a facility drive that it appears that they are seriously entertaining 30 million dollars from Fertitta family (on of the richest families in Vegas) which would be contingent on them hiring  Bishop Gorman High School (Las Vegas) head coach Tony Sanchez.

From what I've read, it sounds like Sanchez has zero college experience in coaching. 

Obviously the UNLV athletic department has never heard of Gerry Faust.
This came out yesterday from Dustin Fox from CBS:
@DustinFox37 I can confirm Tressel is NOT going to coach at Nebraska. Stop with all the rumors.


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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 07:36:42 AM »
Good call out.....Now they just need to stay away from Jerry Kill. 

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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 09:10:13 AM »
their guy is Craig Bohl, he used to be a coach at nebraska before becoming head coach at NDSU and leaving last year for Wyoming

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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2014, 10:00:43 AM »
 ;) JT could coach Nebraska and still be YSU's president... He's that good  ;D

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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 10:18:01 AM »
Yeah, I agree Bohl is gonna end up there. Good fit for that program.

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2014, 02:56:51 PM »
;) JT could coach Nebraska and still be YSU's president... He's that good  ;D
And he could wear his red vest on either campus.

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2014, 04:35:57 PM »
I live in Las Vegas. UNLV is NOT going to hire Tressel. People are just throwing out names on the UNLV message board, Twitter and other places, the same as is being down at YSU and EVERY other school with an opening. Actually, the Tressel discussion stopped back in October, when I shared a link to a story in which Tressel said he has no interest to return to coaching, and is happy with his job at YSU. Then there is the fact the "show cause" is still in effect.

Tressel is NOT going to leave YSU to go coach at Nebraska. That makes no sense at all. First, he is not able to coach yet as the "show cause" penalty has not expired. Second, Nebraska is a place where they like NEBRASKA people. And, look at his track record. He stayed at YSU for 15 years. Was at TOSU for 10 years. He was content at Akron, then the job of President at YSU and Akron each opened. He applied to both. Makes sense, as he has ties to both schools and cities. YSU is the school that gave him the opportunity to be an HC. and he had an amazing 15 year run at YSU. His wife is from Youngstown, and even when at TOSU, The Tressel's donated large sums of money to YSU.

Akron is where Tressel went to grad school and got his start as a college coach being a Graduate Assistant.

Tressel turned down many job offers when at YSU. I attended the 93 Title Game, and also taped it. When wwatching the game on tape, Jim Gray had Tressel getting onto a plane after the game, flying to Cincy and being announced as HC at Cincy. Then in like the 3rd qtr, Cincy announced they had hired a coach, and it was NOT Tressel.

In 95, the Miami(FL) job was his, if he wanted it. Miami was on probation at that time. Tress and his first wife were in the midst of a divorce. Taking the job at Miami would mean dealing with all one deals with when coaching at a school on probation, and it also would have meant being thousands of miles from his kids. The negatives outweighed the positives.

I remember when he was rumored to be taking the Marshall job when Donnan left. And, from what I know, it was his for the taking. He stayed at YSU. And, had the OSU job not opened, or he not been hired, Tress likely would have coached another 5,10 years at YSU, retire as HC and be full time Athletic Director. OSU was his dream job. He had the patience and self control to resist other offers, keep winning and growing the program at YSU in order to make himself a more viable candidate to one day be HC at TOSU.

As for UNLV, the leading candidate looks to be the current Head Coach at Bishop Gorman High School, which is ranked #1 in USA Today. They are the only Catholic High School in Vegas, play a national non-conference schedule, and have not lost to a school from Nevada in like 10 years.

HC Tony Sanchez is well liked in the community. He has connections to people with money, including the Fertitta Family, which owns Station Casinos and UFC(Ultimate Fighting Championship). The rumor going around town are the Fertitta Family paid the $400,000 to buyout Bobby Hauck's contract. Also, they plan to donate a minimum of $30 MILLION to UNLV Athletic Department if Sanchez is hired. UNLV has been sooooooooooooo bad for sooooooooooooo long in football, that this is just crazy enough to work. Hauck had 4 seasons with 2 wins, and last season UNLV went 7-6 and played in 1st bowl game since 2000. Pretty sure Sanchez can figure out a way to win 2 games.

Another popular choice is Jim Fassell. He lives here. He is older. The thinking is he might be interested, as it would be an opportunity to be an HC again, and he does not need to make large sums of money. Another name being tossed around now is the HC of UAB, as they just announced football is being dropped. Also, the HC of Coastal Carolina is popular among some people. He is a multi-millionaire. He has basically built the Coastal program from scratch. He coaches for the love of coaching, not the money, as he already made more money than he will ever need.

My prediction is Sanchez will be the next coach. I think the fix is in, and so do many other people. With those people being people alot more in the know than myself.
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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 05:13:08 PM »
I was just going to say ...what cause could Nebraska show?

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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 05:38:37 PM »
ysuhoops24,

The stadium is not as bad as you make it out to be. Also, it's not as if YSU fans flock to Stambaugh now that the program is just a mediocre FCS program. This is Vegas. Entertainment options are endless. It's not some small town with very little to do for entertainment.  There is a push to build an on-campus stadium, but at this time it is cost prohibitive, and does not have the support of MGM, Caesars and other big players in the entertainment industry. Also, the planned site is in direct flight path of McCarran Int'l Airport, so it was nixed by the FAA. New site seems to be a large, barren parcel of land on E. Tropicana, a few blocks from the Strip. The problem, is cost estimates are ranging from $500,000 MILLION to almost $1 BILLION. This is Vegas, so a new stadium is going to have tons of bells and whistles. It is going to be a place able to hold large concerts and a host of other non-football events. And, building a brand new stadium that is not domed makes little sense. A large amount of the money would come from the taxpayers, and people here see that as a waste of money. I agree.

Las Vegas is the largest metro area in the US without a Medical School. Currently, students going to UNLV that want to be doctors take some of their classes at UNLV and some at UNR(what people outside this state call Nevada). Plans are in place for UNLV to finally have a medical school, and have the first class begin in Fall of 2016 or 2017. Board of Trustees are in favor. Gov. Sandoval is in favor. Only question at this point is State Legislature, which will decide in 2015. UNLV is also making a push to become a Tier 1 Research University. That costs alot of money. There are a plethora of proposed projects for the school, and they all require large sums of money. Also, many people here think it's time to drop football all together at UNLV. The thing is, people here are HUGE bandwagon fans. Start winning, and people will flock to Sam Boyd Stadium. As for being way out in the desert, well, Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. We do not have woods here. We do not have alot of trees, fields of grass....etc. So, if you get spaces that are undeveloped, they are desert. Also, Clark County Wetlands Park borders the Sam Boyd Stadium Property.
http://www.vegas.com/attractions/off-the-strip/clark-county-wetlands/

SBS is 4.5 miles from Downtown Henderson, a Vegas suburb with a population of 270,000+ ... SBS is 7.5 miles from UNLV. Far from ideal, but there is not alot in the way of space near UNLV. And, SBS is good enough to host the Las Vegas Bowl, a Rugby 7's World Series Event, Monster Energy AMA Supercross, Monster Jam World Finals(Monster Trucks), Monster Energy Cup. The stadium also plays host to soccer "friendlies". In 2012, Real Madrid played a team from Mexico. This March, Splatter Festival 2015 will be held at SBS. It is a 4 day music festival, which as of now will have Drake, Rhianna, Katy Perry, Nikki Manaj among the performers. Performers of this quality are not going to perform in a dump.

As for the practice facilities, they are not very good for an FBS program. And, not sure if you know this or not, but they are on campus, not at Sam Boyd Stadium. And, that is widely known here. The hope is an indoor facility can be built. But, things like this cost money. That is where Fertitta family comes in. Also, UNLV football is an after thought to many people here in Vegas. 75% of the population is transplants from other states and other countries.  Many who have their alma maters or hometown schools that they still follow. Also, first and foremost, when it comes to sports, this RUNNIN REBEL TOWN. Basketball is king here. Tark's health is failing, but he still goes to as many games as possible. He is and always will be royalty here in Vegas.

And, the basketball facilities here are as good as ANY college. That is one reason the NBA Summer League is held at Thomas & Mack Center and the adjoining Cox Pavillion. Cox Pavillion has a gym that holds about 4,000 for basketball and volleyball. The womens basketball team plays their games there. On the first floor is a stae of the art practice facility, training room, and a host of other things. T&M is geting a major renovation over the next 1-2 years.

Also, here in Vegas, there is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much to do. Why pay to go watch lousy football, when there are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many other options entertainment wise?

UNLV has excellent facilities for all but football. Men's soccer played in NCAA Tournament this season. Women's Volleyball won MWC Title and will be playing in NCAA Tournament. Mens and Women's golf are both ranked in the top 20. Baseball earned an at-large bid to NCAA Tournament last season, and the baseball stadium is state of the art.

With all the bull$h!t that goes on at YSU, and decisions made based on nepotism and knowing the right people, not sure ripping on UNLV is a wise decision. York Family taking away scholarship they provided to a womens basketball player because Coach D was replaced. Keeping Slocum as HC. A "football school" that has made FCS playoffs 1 time in 14 years. And, while I think hiring Tressel as President was a great decision, it is not exactly viewed that way outside Ytown. It's looked at the same way you look at UNLV possibly hiring a high school coach to be HC of UNLV Football. Only, instead of football, Tressel is YSU PRESIDENT. And, everyone knows he got that job because of the people with $$$$$$$$ who wanted him hired and also what he did as football coach. Again, I like the hire, but if looking at it from a distance, it looks and seems ridiculous. And, again, that is UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT we are talking about, not Head Football Coach.
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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2014, 05:50:55 PM »
I live in Las Vegas.

You are one lucky sumb****.  We just returned from our first trip there.  It probably was the most fun i've ever had anywhere.

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 06:28:59 PM »
Penguin Nation,

Living here is much different than coming for a Vacation. Moved here at end of May 2012. First 4-5 months went to The Strip 4-5 times a week. We have gone maybe 2 times since Dec 2012. Us "locals" pretty much avoid that area at all costs. Well, alot of people work there, and people will go when family/friends are in town, to have a nice dinner on a special occasion or go to a show.

We live just a few miles East of the Strip, right on edge of UNLV campus. Seeing the strip lit up t night never gets old. But, any time we have to go to the West Side for something, it sucks dealing with the traqfficf on and near the Strip.

I like it here because of the diversity, the weather from Oct-late April(summer is brutal), relatively low cost of living for city this size, much more of live and let live attitude than back in Ytown/Cleveland/Pittsburgh...etc. Not sure there is anything such as "normal" here. And, get away from The Strip, and it is pretty much like any other city this size. The 24/7 thing is just The Strip, few blocks to East and West of Strip and then Downtown. Although, there is no "final call" here, and one can buy alcohol at CVS, Walgreen's, grocery stores...etc. And, not just beer and wine, but ANY type of alcohol. Also slot machines in places like grocery stores, convenient stores, Dollar General...etc. I wouldn't trust the machines in those kind of places

Interestingly, all the years in Ytown/Warren helped prepare me well for Vegas. I'm not like OMG, there is crime, corruption, gangs, people selling drugs...etc. Yea, I know, experienced all that in Ytown. Per capita, hard to beat Ytown for that type of thing, especially the corruption. I like Vegas, but would not want to live in any other part of Nevada. We are kind of like our own state here. Metro area population is about 2 MILLION. Clark County population about 2.2 MILLION. Entire population of Nevada is about 3 MILLION.

Glad to hear you enjoyed your vacation. Not sure there is any place like Vegas in the world. Doesn't mean it is the best place, just that Vegas is Vegas.

This is for everyone, curious what you think. There are 3 multi-team basketball tournaments here in Vegas. Teams play 2 games at campus sites, then 2 games here. I think it one of these would be nice tournament for YSU. Two are in November(they were last week). The 3rd is a few days before Christmas. I think it would be nice trip for the team. And, tournaments are the kind where there are 4 so called "big programs", and then 4 mid-major type teams. UWM played in one of the tournaments this year. Also, UNLV plays 5-6 mid major to lower major OOC games in basketball. This year, they have already played Morehead State and Albany. Morehead State is/was also in one of the tournaments played here. So, how about a road game in Vegas for YSU in basketball? Could even make it part of a 2 game trip, with the 2nd game being Southern Utah, Northern Arizona, UNR, or school in California. Then, that school plays return game in Ytown the following season.

And, in football, UNLV typically plays an FCS opponent. Last year, they played WIU. 2015 still has one opening, as current OOC games are at NIU at Michigan(getting paid $1 MILLION) and UCLA at home. Most likely looking for FCS team for the 4th OOC game.... 2016 they play at UCLA, at CMU, Idaho at home....2017 Arkansas State here, at Idaho at Ohio State($1.3 MILLION payday).... either 16 or 17, they will also play BYU here in Vegas. In 16, UNLV plays at Hawaii, so they can schedule 13 games. Which would mean still looking for another game.... 2018 only 1 game scheduled...at Arkansas State... 2019 nothing as of now... 2020 at Iowa State and LA TECH here...2021 Iowa State at home..... I'm not sure what UNLV pays as far as a guarantee. Also not sure when next season is that YSU can play 12 games. But, UNLV would be nice trip for players and fans. And, barring a miraculous turnaround with the new HC a very winnable game. My thinking is game at UNLV along with a $$$$$$$ game, then say Duquesne and Robert Morris, Butler, Valpo(pick one at home). Highly possible to go 3-1, win over FBS team and great road trip. Wait, makes too much sense  :'(

UNLV beat Northern Colorado 13-12 this year
In 2012, they lost to Northern Arizona
In 2011, lost to Southern Utah
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 06:49:08 PM »
Let's Talk,

I know what you mean.  We live on an island in FL, but haven't gone to the beach in over a year.

While in Vegas, we were able to see Hoover Dam, the Grand Canyon, Sedona, and Valley of Fire (or something like that).  Lots to do there.  Glad you are happy there.

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 07:04:22 PM »
Valley of Fire is amazing.... Glad to hear you got to see more than just the Strip. This is such a beautiful part of the country. We drove from Ytown to Vegas. Trip was boring until we got West of Denver. Then, the rest of the way was OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..... Rocky Mountains, then desert mountains most of way in Utah, then Virgin River Gorge in Arizona, Valley of Fire.

We do not have a car, so have not been able to get to the places not serviced by public transit. Mountains are breathtaking, even after 2 1/2 years. Nice in winter to see snow on mountains, but it be 50's or 60's here in the valley. Definitely much, much different in a host of ways from back East.

So, any thoughts on my idea about YSU playing in a basketball tournament that has games in Vegas, playing UNLV in basketball or even in football. Also, womens team could play UNLV in basketball. MWC is better than HL on men's side, but for the women, HL is as good or better than MWC, and UNLV is about middle of the pack. Another reason I propose this, is because there is a wealth of talented athletes here in Vegas. Also could recruit Arizona and Cali while out here. And, both of those states have loads of high school talent, plus plenty of JUCO's. I think people who could afford to make the trip would come, and then there are the people who either went to YSU or are from Ytown area that now live here, Cali, Phoenix...etc.

I know former YSU President Cynthia Anderson lives in Boulder City, which is maybe 20-25 miles from Vegas. She hosted an Alumni get together at her house either earlier this year, or late last year. Got the invite from Alumni Association

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Re: Nebraska and Tressel and the mess that is the UNLV coaching search
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2014, 07:30:03 PM »
Funny, Les Cochran lives near us in FL, and just ran for the Board of Education.

The tournament sounds like an improvement as the MBB OOC schedule has the likes of Wilberforce and Thiel.  I do think such a tournament would draw interest to the YSU MBB program, and fans may even follow the team there due to the uniqueness of the location.

As an aside, idk why there isn't an Allegiant direct flight from YNG to McCarren.  My understanding is that Allegiant's HQ is in Vegas.  There are multiple cities here in FL (I think four) that have direct service to YNG, and the flights are packed whenever I take them.  Seems like YNG-McCarren would be popular...as the Austintown Racino just doesn't offer enough gaming.
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