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The student/taxpayer subsidy for the Minutemen's move to FBS has been $1 million higher than anticipated over the first two years of FBS football and next year will be $5.1 million per year.

There clearly is some logic is a flagship state university moving up and becoming just the third FBS school in New England.  But playing in the MAC and having home games many miles from campus doesn't seem to be working.  Another example of the folly of "big time football" for schools that should be FCS

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/12/13/umass-football-subsidy-exceeds-projections/LdMZCquclCgNI7YFMYWeNP/story.html



Students and taxpayers have spent $1 million more than projected to help fund the first two seasons of the UMass Amherst football team’s ambitious — and so far disappointing — upgrade to elite collegiate competition, according to a report presented Thursday to the university’s Faculty Senate.

The subsidy, known as institutional support, is expected to exceed projections by an additional $600,000 next season, reaching $5.1 million of the $7.8 million football budget. The overrun is considered a reflection of the Minutemen’s struggle to generate enthusiasm for the upgrade, which included moving most of the team’s home games to Gillette Stadium.

The report triggered a new round of complaints that UMass leaders invested scarce public dollars that could have been better spent when they elevated the football team in 2012 to the NCAA’s top Football Bowl Subdivision.

“What becomes clearer each year is that this is a huge financial disaster for the university,’’ said Max Page, a co-chairman of the school’s Ad Hoc Committee on FBS Football, which prepared the report.


The committee is composed of faculty, students, and staff, including leaders of the athletic department.

“The promises that were made are not panning out,’’ said Page, an art and history professor.

Athletic department spokesman John Sinnett said it’s too soon to pass judgment on a lengthy commitment. The Minutemen are two years into a five-year agreement with Gillette Stadium, and UMass administrators continue to believe the program will thrive over time.

In launching the upgrade, school officials projected the football team would generate an annual budget surplus greater than $1 million by 2018.

“This is a long-term project,’’ Sinnett said. “We made certain estimates that will change over time, especially where there is a great deal of transition involved. You need time to build the infrastructure’’

University officials said the report should not be viewed as a definitive portrait of the program’s financial status. They said the football budget would have increased even if the Minutemen had remained in the lower Football Championship Subdivision. They also said that much of the institutional support would not be used for educational purposes if football were eliminated because student athletic fees would be dedicated to other athletic programs and tuition waivers for football players would not be available to other students.

No one disputes, however, that the team’s performance has fallen short of expectations. The Minutemen have posted 1-11 records in each of the first two seasons in the tougher Mid-American Conference. The on-field performance was particularly disappointing this year, as the Minutemen squandered chances to beat winless Western Michigan (a 31-30 loss) and struggling Akron (a 14-13 defeat) at Gillette.

UMass improved defensively, surrendering an average of 33 points per game, down from 40.2 in 2012. But they scored only 11.7 points per game, a drop from 12.7 the previous year.

“Obviously, the record hasn’t been what we would have liked,’’ Sinnett said. “But this is something that we and the players are committed to, and at the end of the day it can help promote the university.’’

Ticket sales at Gillette improved from an average of 10,901 in 2012 to 15,830 in 2013, the highest ever for a UMass football team. Still, attendance remained significantly lower than school officials had projected.

“My personal view is that the program is off to a weak start,’’ said Nelson Lacey, who co-chaired the committee that produced the report. “This isn’t terribly surprising given that it will take some time for young recruits to get winning experience. But it is disappointing.’’

Lacey, a professor of finance, said he would prefer to evaluate the upgrade after three to five years. He said he is not opposed to the university increasing its football budget in the early years of the upgrade.

“Spending more to build the program is a good idea if the extra spending creates benefits such as guarantees, ticket sales, and additional giving,’’ Lacey said.

The guarantees include Penn State paying UMass $850,000 to play there next season. The Minutemen are scheduled to open the 2014 season at Gillette against Boston College, which school officials hope builds interest in the program.

UMass also will resume playing in Amherst for the first time since 2011. The Minutemen are scheduled to play three games in refurbished McGuirk Stadium, which will please many fans who felt abandoned by the move to Gillette.

As part of the upgrade, UMass built a new football training facility and made improvements to the McGuirk press box, which will require the school next year to begin paying an annual $2.2 million debt service on the projects.

Faculty members who oppose the upgrade described it in a written assessment as “a costly ‘Hail Mary’ pass that looks as if it is bound to fall incomplete.’’

Supporters, meanwhile, said the initiative has begun to pay dividends. Last summer, two UMass alumni who are football supporters, Ed Ward and Martin Jacobson, each committed $2.5 million to the athletic department.

Sinnett said the hope is that the football team replicates the recent success of the UMass men’s basketball squad, which this season has been ranked in the Top 25 nationally, five years after coach Derek Kellogg began a rebuilding effort.

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This story has been repeated time and time again all across this country.  There are only a limited number of legitimate "big time" programs, and they are arranging themselves into a handful of large, "power" conferences.  Any school that believes that it can compete with those giants is foolish.  Any school that believes that fans respect "make-believe" big time programs is delusional.  Any school that expects the more lucrative guarantees to compensate for dramatically higher operating costs is just plain stupid.

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This story has been repeated time and time again all across this country.  There are only a limited number of legitimate "big time" programs, and they are arranging themselves into a handful of large, "power" conferences.  Any school that believes that it can compete with those giants is foolish.  Any school that believes that fans respect "make-believe" big time programs is delusional.  Any school that expects the more lucrative guarantees to compensate for dramatically higher operating costs is just plain stupid.

YSU to the MAC!! Nooooo???

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Old story -- Bob Marcum was a former AD at UMass when they were "I-AA". He was  also one of my positions coaches in H.S. who helped get me into college ball and we kept in contact. He bailed out of UMass to go back to his alma mater , Marshall, where he played, to be their AD. He retired recently from there. Said back in the day UMass was ALWAYS in a financial hole, facing multiple million $ deficits and he feared being blamed as they had limited attendance, high expenses and an unyielding fan base who wanted to go I-A. Boosters were always raiding education funds to keep the ship afloat. Presidents came  &  went because of this. He expected an implosion because the pressures were so high. He projected their annual deficit would DOUBLE when they moved and it has. He bailed out because of that.

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This story has been repeated time and time again all across this country.  There are only a limited number of legitimate "big time" programs, and they are arranging themselves into a handful of large, "power" conferences.  Any school that believes that it can compete with those giants is foolish.  Any school that believes that fans respect "make-believe" big time programs is delusional.  Any school that expects the more lucrative guarantees to compensate for dramatically higher operating costs is just plain stupid.

YSU to the MAC!! Nooooo???

How about the mac to YSU instead.

Let the big boys, yes the BIG boys form their own little division, gobble up most of the tv money and then the pretend big boys can merge with the like of YSU where they belong.
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More evidence that the second-tier FBS schools are losing the sports financial arms race: Temple is dropping seven sports. This is a downward spiral. 

http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-08/news/44908784_1_temple-university-the-inquirer-american-athletic-conference

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Temple has always had an identity crisis. They want to be a minority school, then they don't. They want big time athletics then they don't. They are at their final-year of a 3-year deadline for meeting Title-IX ...which they must do as a non-minority school.

Robert Morris cut 8 sports on Monday as well.

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More evidence that the second-tier FBS schools are losing the sports financial arms race: Temple is dropping seven sports. This is a downward spiral. 

http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-08/news/44908784_1_temple-university-the-inquirer-american-athletic-conference

Mens gymnastics got cut?? OMG..... :'(.   And mens and women crew???....My God the inhumanity!!! :'(

I mean..... all the "tens of people" nationally who care about "crew"......must be emotionally crushed. All 10 of them will have to go a group help class to overcome this devastation. And what is ESPN gonna do without the ability to televise "crew'??? Think of all the "tens of dollars they will lose".

Political Correctness has a lot to do with this. Socialism rearing it's ugly head under the banner of "fairness" and womens "right's". >:( ;) :) :o
« Last Edit: December 13, 2013, 11:15:25 PM by Pizza »

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Pizza,
   
I realize that the couch potatoes of the world think that the only sports that matter are the ones that they see on ESPN, but college sports is much more than that. The only people making money off college football are ESPN, the beer advertisers, maybe some of the Big Five conference schools, and I don't think all of them, and perhaps a smattering of others.
   
In some schools, especially small privates, the minor sports are seen as making money or at least breaking even: Their rosters are filled with partial and non-scholarship students who are contributing to the university by paying tuition and room and board, and they are drawing students to the university who otherwise might not consider attending there, especially when the student is from a high-income or upper middle-income family. Over the last decade schools have actually been adding lacrosse, crewing, and equestrian because these students tend to come from better-off families who will pay money to let their kids to continue in their sport. In addition, the minor sports tend to attract better students (after all, education is the reason universities exist in the first place), and these students don't create the campus disciplinary problems that come with the inflated egos of football players.
   
In the current budget crisis, some ADs mistakenly think that the solution is to dump the minor sports and divert the money from the minor sports to big-time spectator sports, but hardly anybody has made this work in football.  It's like pouring a bucket of water on a house fire. This does sometimes work in basketball, because one basically needs only five good players and one or two good subs, and the equipment costs are much less. It's easy to lose sight of the impact of minor sports on school enrollment and finances because those metrics are not part of the athletic operating budgets, but if one looks at the big picture, it's rather astounding.  (This is why small schools understand this more--these facts get lost in large universities.) Some of these FBS wannabes, if they keep going down their current path, will soon be left with nothing more than frisbee golf.
 
This is why I think Strollo is doing such a decent job.  The minor sports are definitely bringing students to the university that otherwise wouldn't come to Youngstown, and many of the sports are now competitive among the mid-tier universities. Not sure if the break-even theory works at YSU because the tuition is low relative to its peers and the salaries for minor-sport coaches, as low as they are, are higher than low-tier schools.
 
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Spiderlegs,

Excellent post and spot on.

My son is a college freshman.  He was a "minor' sport player in high school, not playing in college.  His ability to play a sport did not figure in to his college decision, although we did discuss at various times.  His talent would have said "maybe play at low level Division III program."

That being said, I can quickly think of four guys who he played with at various times growing up who are going to small schools, scholarship and non-scholarship, and their ability to continue their playing careers is what has them there, rather than at Indiana or Purdue like another group of peers.  None of these guys are on full scholarship.  I also have a good friend from Georgia with a daughter on a partial crew scholarship at a SEC school that she would never have otherwise attended.

I have seen a couple of stories here over time about how important football is to Butler in attracting male students.  It may be non-scholarship, but it clearly pulls people in.

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Pizza,
   
I realize that the couch potatoes of the world think that the only sports that matter are the ones that they see on ESPN, but college sports is much more than that. The only people making money off college football are ESPN, the beer advertisers, maybe some of the Big Five conference schools, and I don't think all of them, and perhaps a smattering of others.
   
In some schools, especially small privates, the minor sports are seen as making money or at least breaking even: Their rosters are filled with partial and non-scholarship students who are contributing to the university by paying tuition and room and board, and they are drawing students to the university who otherwise might not consider attending there, especially when the student is from a high-income or upper middle-income family. Over the last decade schools have actually been adding lacrosse, crewing, and equestrian because these students tend to come from better-off families who will pay money to let their kids to continue in their sport. In addition, the minor sports tend to attract better students (after all, education is the reason universities exist in the first place), and these students don't create the campus disciplinary problems that come with the inflated egos of football players.
   
In the current budget crisis, some ADs mistakenly think that the solution is to dump the minor sports and divert the money from the minor sports to big-time spectator sports, but hardly anybody has made this work in football.  It's like pouring a bucket of water on a house fire. This does sometimes work in basketball, because one basically needs only five good players and one or two good subs, and the equipment costs are much less. It's easy to lose sight of the impact of minor sports on school enrollment and finances because those metrics are not part of the athletic operating budgets, but if one looks at the big picture, it's rather astounding.  (This is why small schools understand this more--these facts get lost in large universities.) Some of these FBS wannabes, if they keep going down their current path, will soon be left with nothing more than frisbee golf.
 
This is why I think Strollo is doing such a decent job.  The minor sports are definitely bringing students to the university that otherwise wouldn't come to Youngstown, and many of the sports are now competitive among the mid-tier universities. Not sure if the break-even theory works at YSU because the tuition is low relative to its peers and the salaries for minor-sport coaches, as low as they are, are higher than low-tier schools.

Well said. And I agree.

But I still could care less about "crew".

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Agree with Spiderlegs; this is exactly why YSU football should remain where it is. The only disadvantage is the lack of 1-AA programs in this region, but not worth going to the MAC for that.

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Not sure we we rate with these numbers

MAC Football Asst. Coach Salaries
According to USA Today, here's the football staff salaries for the MAC. Click the link to see individual coaches' pay.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/s...assistant/

$886,000 Akron
$852,797 Ohio
$849,030 Northern Illinois
$842,870 Ball State
$835,350 Miami
$826,660 Bowling Green
$825,00 Buffalo
$817,206 Central Michigan
$795,500 Western Michigan
$772,700 UMass
$754,750 Toledo
$729,276 Eastern Michigan
$691,000 Kent State

Value- cost/win
$70,753 Northern Illinois
$82,666 Bowling Green
$84,287 Ball State
$103,125 Buffalo
$107,821 Toledo
$121,828 Ohio
$136,201 Central Michigan
$172,750 Kent State
$177,200 Akron
$364,368 Eastern Michigan
$772,700 UMass
$795,500 Western Michigan
$835,350 Miami
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