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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #150 on: November 29, 2019, 11:30:51 AM »
Bo may very well understand the game, but it does not seem that he is a players coach. Maybe he can change this, I guess that he has three years to prove it.

Big difference between Nebraska and YSU is obviously the budget, can't afford to hire folks to cover some of his weaknesses, whether it be player relationships or X's and o's.

Any idea how his salary compares to other hc's in the league? What about a$$istants?


We are near the bottom if not the lowest paid.

I'm a little surprised by this. I'm not saying you are wrong, its just odd to me.

I would say we likely have among the BEST, if not the top, facilities in the conference. This is a weird disparity.

To me, college football success is 90% recruiting. Every hire we make should be evaluated as both a coach and recruiter equally. We can't just hire young guys and hope they have the energy and drive to figure it out. Adding accomplished recruiters with tons of established connections should be a very high priority.

We've all seen what Bo can do with a talented team. If they made it to the NC because or despite him is open for debate, but he did get us there.

The other 10% of college football success is in game adjustments. Yeah we lose that one almost every week LOL.

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #151 on: November 29, 2019, 12:48:17 PM »
3 years.  welcome to mens basketball.   no play-offs no fans no interest.  not good for the athletic budget

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2019, 01:59:28 PM »
Bo's salary is top 10 in FCS. a$$istant salaries are not.

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #153 on: November 29, 2019, 07:57:57 PM »
He has hinted at some changes, not clear what they may be, but we will have to wait and see what they are.
ďLife is hard, itís harder if you're stupidĒ - John Wayne

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #154 on: December 08, 2019, 12:46:02 PM »
From today's Tribune/Vindy:

Listen up, Pelini coming back for YSU

SPORT COLUMNS
DEC 8, 2019

JOE SIMON
Sports Reporter
jsimon@tribtoday.com
 
 
YOUNGSTOWN


TELLING people what they donít want to hear is never an easy thing to do ó for anyone.

Doctors have to do it. Families have to do it. Friends, bosses, co-workers ó and journalists. We all do. Itís part of life, whether we like it or not.

So, while some people donít want to hear that Youngstown State football coach Bo Pelini will be returning next season, he will, indeed, be back on the sidelines. Heís not quitting, and YSU isnít firing him.

Pelini and the Penguins agreed on a three-year extension in February of 2019, and YSU isnít the type of institution to buy out a coach after one year. This isnít Nebraska, and Pelini isnít a quitter.

The reason his continued time at YSU may be disappointing to fans is because Peliniís tenure ó and teams ó have been terribly inconsistent.

There was plenty of excitement when the fiery, high-profile coach was hired in December of 2014, and most people were surprised the former Nebraska head coach came back to Youngstown to be part of a lower level of Division I football (FCS). Things started off well, with Pelini leading YSU to the FCS Championship game in 2016, just his second year, but things have gone downhill since then.

The Penguins were 6-5 in 2017, 4-7 in 2018 and 6-6 this year. Pelini is 33-28 overall in five years as head coach and 18-22 in the brutal Missouri Valley Football Conference. The man who won 70 percent of his games and never had less than nine wins in a season with the Cornhuskers is barely over .500 at YSU, with one playoff appearance.

As disappointing as this is for fans, itís even more frustrating for Pelini, a Youngstown native deeply rooted into the area. As a reporter who has covered YSU for Peliniís entire tenure, the dissatisfaction of his time at YSU became more and more evident over the last two seasons.

A defensive guru throughout his career, Pelini was often left without an explanation or understanding of why players were making inexplicable mistakes on that side of the ball. His teams have often followed great performances with terrible ones. They looked uninspired one week and ready to run through a wall the next. Pelini has often admitted to being baffled by the up-and-down play. Fans and members of the media are as well.

His tone changed toward the end of this season. The last few months, he sounded different than Iíve ever heard him. A coach who was a key part of a Super Bowl title (San Francisco, 1995) and a national championship (LSU, 2008) sounded distraught and beat down ó but not defeated. Instead of losing his temper, as he has many times in his career, Pelini was more focused on figuring out how he can reach a new generation of players.

Itís not easy. Ask any coach at any level. Times have changed, and so have people. The changes arenít necessarily bad, but for an intense, in-your-face 51-year-old football coach who is used to the grit and grime of the Youngstown rustbelt, this social revolution is a bit of a rude awakening. Just because heís coaching in Youngstown doesnít mean the players are going to respond to the old-school approach that seems to reflect the Mahoning Valley.

Pelini seems to be realizing this, and he talked, extensively but not specifically, about adapting to a new age of players during a Nov. 19 press conference.

ďThe kids are different now,Ē he said. ďItís a different dynamic as far as how they were brought up playing the game. I donít know that a lot of the kids these days are watching the sport the way we did. Theyíre definitely not playing in the backyard the way we did growing up, which creates different challenges. I could spend an hour on it and how some of the aspects of coaching have changed over the last seven, eight years, but youíve got to adapt.

ďYou have to really think it through and be prepared to make the necessary changes to meet the challenges that lie ahead. I feel comfortable that maybe some of the frustrations that have come through this year have helped me identify some of the important issues and develop a plan to move forward and better this football team.Ē

It was an honest answer from a man who is willing to accept that some of the very qualities that helped him reach the pinnacle of the sport may be the same ones leading to his demise. People, especially from this area, should appreciate such authenticity. I did.

All that said, if Pelini was almost any other coach, he probably wouldnít be here. Certainly no other coach (aside from maybe Jim Tressel) would receive a contract extension after a 4-7 season in which his team suffered one of the most embarra$$ing losses in school history (the 2018 home opener to Butler). But, thatís what a glowing background does for you in the coaching world.

Yes, some of the statistics and records under Pelini are ugly, and after five years, the team should be well on its way to continuity instead of trending downward, but maybe, just maybe his recent self reflection will be a revelation for him. There is still hope for him to turn things around.

Thatís what Penguin fans need to cling to because YSU and Bo Pelini are sticking together, whether people want to hear it or not.

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #155 on: December 08, 2019, 05:12:06 PM »
Bo is just realizing times have changed,  What is he living in a bubble. 

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #156 on: August 31, 2021, 08:58:45 PM »
"These two cats that we played against from Youngstown State were as good of pa$$ rushers as I've seen"

--WVU Head Coach Dana Holgorsen

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #157 on: August 31, 2021, 09:45:33 PM »
Good news is, this conduct is not YSUs problem anymore.

From reading that, he deserves jail time.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2021, 09:46:04 PM by The YO Show »

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #158 on: September 01, 2021, 08:53:21 AM »
Been a season ticket holder since 83. Done. Will tailgate to have fun. Will not go into another game until the Mooney faction is gone. Iím done.
I don't get this entirely.  Domestic violence is about crime not football ticket sales.  You don't do or not so something because of the tickets he may or may not sell.
Second, I don't get the Cardinal Mooney connection.  I have employees, and heaven forbid, one of them commits domestic violence, you think I, or my business, should be punished?  You guys Taliban or something? For decades Mooney has been the preeminent HS football program in the valley,  YSU is the preemminat 1AA football program in Ohio, of course there will be a bunch of well coached, but less that 1A talent coming out of Mooney and YSU is a logical place for them to play. This is a good and natural thing, why does it need to be severed because of a A-Hole criminal who happens to be a coach?  Domestic violence happens in EVERY walk of life, every day. Yes it needs addressed, but it isn't a "sports" issue, it's a societal issue.
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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #159 on: September 01, 2021, 02:40:24 PM »
Been a season ticket holder since 83. Done. Will tailgate to have fun. Will not go into another game until the Mooney faction is gone. Iím done.
I don't get this entirely.  Domestic violence is about crime not football ticket sales.  You don't do or not so something because of the tickets he may or may not sell.
Second, I don't get the Cardinal Mooney connection.  I have employees, and heaven forbid, one of them commits domestic violence, you think I, or my business, should be punished?  You guys Taliban or something? For decades Mooney has been the preeminent HS football program in the valley,  YSU is the preemminat 1AA football program in Ohio, of course there will be a bunch of well coached, but less that 1A talent coming out of Mooney and YSU is a logical place for them to play. This is a good and natural thing, why does it need to be severed because of a A-Hole criminal who happens to be a coach?  Domestic violence happens in EVERY walk of life, every day. Yes it needs addressed, but it isn't a "sports" issue, it's a societal issue.

Dude---you are quoting from something from two years ago.  That guy's comment has nothing to do with the domestic violence charges.  It was entirely about the football program stinking in 2018 and 2019.

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #160 on: September 04, 2021, 08:59:32 AM »
Pelini walks.  It was just a misunderstanding.

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Re: Fire Pelini
« Reply #161 on: September 07, 2021, 09:19:34 AM »
Been a season ticket holder since 83. Done. Will tailgate to have fun. Will not go into another game until the Mooney faction is gone. Iím done.
I don't get this entirely.  Domestic violence is about crime not football ticket sales.  You don't do or not so something because of the tickets he may or may not sell.
Second, I don't get the Cardinal Mooney connection.  I have employees, and heaven forbid, one of them commits domestic violence, you think I, or my business, should be punished?  You guys Taliban or something? For decades Mooney has been the preeminent HS football program in the valley,  YSU is the preemminat 1AA football program in Ohio, of course there will be a bunch of well coached, but less that 1A talent coming out of Mooney and YSU is a logical place for them to play. This is a good and natural thing, why does it need to be severed because of a A-Hole criminal who happens to be a coach?  Domestic violence happens in EVERY walk of life, every day. Yes it needs addressed, but it isn't a "sports" issue, it's a societal issue.

Dude---you are quoting from something from two years ago.  That guy's comment has nothing to do with the domestic violence charges.  It was entirely about the football program stinking in 2018 and 2019.
18 & 19?  wasn't that also 2 and 3 years ago?
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