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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Well, let's see where we stand
« on: November 18, 2023, 01:28:53 PM »
you know I forgot that the MEAC is no longer in the bowl game, so they will have 2 invites.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Murray State IN-GAME thread
« on: November 18, 2023, 01:03:44 PM »
1 hour to go.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Well, let's see where we stand
« on: November 18, 2023, 12:58:50 PM »
First note that aside from 2 games yesterday, this is BEFORE today's game. The 2023 championship field will consist of 10 automatic qualifiers, with another 14 at-large selections. To be one of those 14 (not 24) teams is what we are battling for. Bold means they are already in the play-ff in my opinions. However there are still today's game remaining to be played.
United Athletic Conference:: The first in our series of craziness. This is a merger of the ASUN and WAC. Last year they were combined for football-only, now it is an official single conference. This mean they conference will receive an auto-bid to the play-off and all teams can qualify for an at-large berth. Also, this is a very strong conference in terms of membership. Today Austin Peay and Central Arkansas will battle for the auto-berth. At this point, Both teams should be in, but because it is a new conference, it will be hard to justify a 7-4 Central Arkansas should they lose today.
1. Austin Peay
2. Central Arkansas
Big Sky: Always a power conference. should see as many bids as the MVFC. Again Montana vs. Montana State decides the autobid. The game to watch is not Montana v MSU; rather it is Sacramento State vs UC-Davis. If Davis wins, this will be either a 3-deep, or 5-deep conference for 2023. Idaho's loss to Weber is an issue, but the Vandals will show their return to prominence in the FCS with a win over Idaho State today. Weber's hapless free-fall kisses UNI's post-season goodbye.
1. Montana = 9-1
2. Montana State = 8-2
3. Idaho = 7-3
4. Sacramento State = 7-3
5. OC-Davis = 6-4
Big South - Ohio Valley: Well what mess this is. Individually, The Big South and Ohio Valley no longer exist for football and will share on autobid. Gardner-Webb will earn the Big South-OVC quto-berth to the FCS Playoffs, and share the league title with UT Martin, with a win today over Charleston Southern. UT Martin is looking for one final strong showing to solidify the team's playoff résumé. While Gardner-Webb can secure the association's automatic playoff bid with a win against Charleston Southern, the Skyhawks (IMO) have built a stronger regular season portfolio for an at-large bid. If GW loses, I think they are out of the Play-off.
1. UT-Martin = 8-2
2. Gardner-Webb = 6-4
CAA: Believe it or not, Albany is playing fantastic football and looking to win it's first-ever Colonial football crown. As of today UAlbany, Delaware, Richmond and Villanova are tied for first place in the conference. Right now the tie-breakers are still two numerous for me to care. I am just happy for Albany. The CAA is very much like the MVFC (including the Guins) is that two other teams are hovering at that 4-loss mark, with FBS losses (URI and W&M).
1. Delaware = 8-2
2. Villanova = 8-2
3. UAlbany = 8-3
4. Richmond = 7-3
MVFC: I know we have talked about this relentlessly, but I thght that up again other conferences, there might be a better perspective SDSU clearly has the conference crown an auto-berth to the play-off. Again this is as of today with a Saturday of action remaining.
1. SDSU = 10-0 ... IN
2. South Dakota = 8-2 ... IN
3. NDSU = 7-3 ... NDSU has a daunting task ahead today. If they defeat UNI, the Panthers are out.
4. UNI = 6-4 ... as mentioned above, the A Panthers are in a must-win situation. If they do win, strong wins vs. NDSU, YSU and UND look nice for the committee.
5. ILS = 6-4 ... A must-win today again North Dakota. However losses at YSU, UNI and Eastern Illinois (EIU likely out of the play-off this year). are huge detractors
6 North Dakota = 6-4 ... UND has a solid resume, but today is a must-win against ILS. Wins at NDSU is trong, but losses to UNI and S Dakota are detractors
7. YSU = 6-4 ... Well plenty of talk here about this already. In short, Solid wins at SIU and ILS are countered by losses at SDSU, UNI and S. Dakota.
8. SIU = 6-4 ... the biggest detractor for SIU is a losing record in the conference. A win today over ISU-blue makes it an even 4-4 & I just don't see any playoff for this team. But a huge win over MAC (FBS) power Northern Illinois. Combine that with a great performance and OT loss to SDSU Also a big win over UAC champ and play-off selection Austin Peay is such an impressive resume.
NEC: Duquesne University football team travels to Merrimack College today for its final regular season game of the year. The winner of the game will earn the Northeast Conference's automatic bid to the NCAA Division I FCS Championship. With a loss, neither club has 7 d-I wins on the season, so this is a one-bid conference.
1. Duquesne = 6-4
2. Merrimack = 5-5
Patriot: Four teams can earn a share of the 2023 Patriot League football title, but just Lafayette and Holy Cross could claim the League’s automatic bid to the NCAA DI FCS Football Championship. Lafayette can claim at least a share of the League title and its first auto bid since 2013 by defeating Lehigh. Holy Cross would need a victory vs. Georgetown in their regular-season finale and a Leopards’ loss vs. the Mountain Hawks guarantee a return to the playoffs for the fifth straight season. Losses by Lafayette and Holy Cross would allow Georgetown to clinch a share of the Patriot League title for the first time in program history, creating the first tri-champion situation in League history. In that scenario, Colgate could also create the first quad-champion situation in League history by defeating Fordham
1. Lafayette = 8-2
2. Holy Cross = 6-4
Pioneer: Drake clinched a share of the 2023 PFL title last week with its 16-14 victory against Presbyterian and Davidson’s loss at Morehead State. Drake can clinch the PFL Championship outright and claim the league’s AQ spot in the FCS Playoffs with a win this weekend at Butler. Although St. Thomas is also 7-3, they are too new to FCS to qualify for the playoff.
Drake = 7-3
Davidson = 7-3
Butler = 7-3
SoCon: : Not to show me just how old I am, Furman clinched it's first outright SoCon title in 33 years. Other team are deserving of a spot, but I do not see it.Chattanooga has losses to all three other teams in contention.
1. Furman = 9-1 ... IN
2. Chattanooga = 7-3
3. Mercer = 8-3
4. W. Carolina = 7-3
Southland: Nicholls won the Southland Football title. Incarnate Word should make the post-season if they defeat HCU today.
1. Nicholls St.
2 Incarnate Word
United Athletic Conference:: The first in our series of craziness. This is a merger of the ASUN and WAC. Last year they were combined for football-only, now it is an official single conference. This mean they conference will receive an auto-bid to the play-off and all teams can qualify for an at-large berth. Also, this is a very strong conference in terms of membership. Today Austin Peay and Central Arkansas will battle for the auto-berth. At this point, Both teams should be in, but because it is a new conference, it will be hard to justify a 7-4 Central Arkansas should they lose today.
1. Austin Peay
2. Central Arkansas
Big Sky: Always a power conference. should see as many bids as the MVFC. Again Montana vs. Montana State decides the autobid. The game to watch is not Montana v MSU; rather it is Sacramento State vs UC-Davis. If Davis wins, this will be either a 3-deep, or 5-deep conference for 2023. Idaho's loss to Weber is an issue, but the Vandals will show their return to prominence in the FCS with a win over Idaho State today. Weber's hapless free-fall kisses UNI's post-season goodbye.
1. Montana = 9-1
2. Montana State = 8-2
3. Idaho = 7-3
4. Sacramento State = 7-3
5. OC-Davis = 6-4
Big South - Ohio Valley: Well what mess this is. Individually, The Big South and Ohio Valley no longer exist for football and will share on autobid. Gardner-Webb will earn the Big South-OVC quto-berth to the FCS Playoffs, and share the league title with UT Martin, with a win today over Charleston Southern. UT Martin is looking for one final strong showing to solidify the team's playoff résumé. While Gardner-Webb can secure the association's automatic playoff bid with a win against Charleston Southern, the Skyhawks (IMO) have built a stronger regular season portfolio for an at-large bid. If GW loses, I think they are out of the Play-off.
1. UT-Martin = 8-2
2. Gardner-Webb = 6-4
CAA: Believe it or not, Albany is playing fantastic football and looking to win it's first-ever Colonial football crown. As of today UAlbany, Delaware, Richmond and Villanova are tied for first place in the conference. Right now the tie-breakers are still two numerous for me to care. I am just happy for Albany. The CAA is very much like the MVFC (including the Guins) is that two other teams are hovering at that 4-loss mark, with FBS losses (URI and W&M).
1. Delaware = 8-2
2. Villanova = 8-2
3. UAlbany = 8-3
4. Richmond = 7-3
MVFC: I know we have talked about this relentlessly, but I thght that up again other conferences, there might be a better perspective SDSU clearly has the conference crown an auto-berth to the play-off. Again this is as of today with a Saturday of action remaining.
1. SDSU = 10-0 ... IN
2. South Dakota = 8-2 ... IN
3. NDSU = 7-3 ... NDSU has a daunting task ahead today. If they defeat UNI, the Panthers are out.
4. UNI = 6-4 ... as mentioned above, the A Panthers are in a must-win situation. If they do win, strong wins vs. NDSU, YSU and UND look nice for the committee.
5. ILS = 6-4 ... A must-win today again North Dakota. However losses at YSU, UNI and Eastern Illinois (EIU likely out of the play-off this year). are huge detractors
6 North Dakota = 6-4 ... UND has a solid resume, but today is a must-win against ILS. Wins at NDSU is trong, but losses to UNI and S Dakota are detractors
7. YSU = 6-4 ... Well plenty of talk here about this already. In short, Solid wins at SIU and ILS are countered by losses at SDSU, UNI and S. Dakota.
8. SIU = 6-4 ... the biggest detractor for SIU is a losing record in the conference. A win today over ISU-blue makes it an even 4-4 & I just don't see any playoff for this team. But a huge win over MAC (FBS) power Northern Illinois. Combine that with a great performance and OT loss to SDSU Also a big win over UAC champ and play-off selection Austin Peay is such an impressive resume.
NEC: Duquesne University football team travels to Merrimack College today for its final regular season game of the year. The winner of the game will earn the Northeast Conference's automatic bid to the NCAA Division I FCS Championship. With a loss, neither club has 7 d-I wins on the season, so this is a one-bid conference.
1. Duquesne = 6-4
2. Merrimack = 5-5
Patriot: Four teams can earn a share of the 2023 Patriot League football title, but just Lafayette and Holy Cross could claim the League’s automatic bid to the NCAA DI FCS Football Championship. Lafayette can claim at least a share of the League title and its first auto bid since 2013 by defeating Lehigh. Holy Cross would need a victory vs. Georgetown in their regular-season finale and a Leopards’ loss vs. the Mountain Hawks guarantee a return to the playoffs for the fifth straight season. Losses by Lafayette and Holy Cross would allow Georgetown to clinch a share of the Patriot League title for the first time in program history, creating the first tri-champion situation in League history. In that scenario, Colgate could also create the first quad-champion situation in League history by defeating Fordham
1. Lafayette = 8-2
2. Holy Cross = 6-4
Pioneer: Drake clinched a share of the 2023 PFL title last week with its 16-14 victory against Presbyterian and Davidson’s loss at Morehead State. Drake can clinch the PFL Championship outright and claim the league’s AQ spot in the FCS Playoffs with a win this weekend at Butler. Although St. Thomas is also 7-3, they are too new to FCS to qualify for the playoff.
Drake = 7-3
Davidson = 7-3
Butler = 7-3
SoCon: : Not to show me just how old I am, Furman clinched it's first outright SoCon title in 33 years. Other team are deserving of a spot, but I do not see it.Chattanooga has losses to all three other teams in contention.
1. Furman = 9-1 ... IN
2. Chattanooga = 7-3
3. Mercer = 8-3
4. W. Carolina = 7-3
Southland: Nicholls won the Southland Football title. Incarnate Word should make the post-season if they defeat HCU today.
1. Nicholls St.
2 Incarnate Word
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Murray State Game Week
« on: November 18, 2023, 09:07:44 AM »
3-loss overall team from the MVFC. There is no question that one, possibly 3 of those team are in this year NDSU loses today, they might be in trouble. Even then I don't see them kept out. There are 2 other autobids undecided with 3+ losses
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Playoffs if we win this week @ Murray State?
« on: November 17, 2023, 09:16:51 AM »
Right now, here is the order:
7 DI wins:
1. South Dakota State
5. South Dakota
9. North Dakota State
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Teams with 6 DI wins and on the bubble:
17. North Dakota
20. Southern Illinois
27. UNI
29. Illinois St.
30. YSU
NDSU is already in, there is NO DOUBT! The only team in the balance that would be considered with only 6 wins is North Dakota and that took a big hit. They win they're in! Unless they really love the MVFC, everyone else is out. Again this is if the selections were today
7 DI wins:
1. South Dakota State
5. South Dakota
9. North Dakota State
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Teams with 6 DI wins and on the bubble:
17. North Dakota
20. Southern Illinois
27. UNI
29. Illinois St.
30. YSU
NDSU is already in, there is NO DOUBT! The only team in the balance that would be considered with only 6 wins is North Dakota and that took a big hit. They win they're in! Unless they really love the MVFC, everyone else is out. Again this is if the selections were today
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2023 Football: Constructive Criticism and Compliments
« on: November 13, 2023, 04:19:19 PM »The sagarin rankings of YSU victories this year.
256 Valpo
241 Robert Morris
194 Indiana State
138 Illinois State
160 Missouri State
102 Southern Illinois
200 Murray State (TBD Saturday)
119 YSU (Ranking)
These rankings were prior to last weeks games. The FCS is so weak these days that I guess it's possible that they could be considered?
I like sagarin as it is very realistic, but for any ranking purpose, it is worthless. Use the coaches poll.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Murray State Game Week
« on: November 13, 2023, 01:37:54 PM »Like any other game you start your best and play to win. Mitch is the best qb at this point. The other qbs, can get their playing time at the end of a blowout win by us.
I am 100% in agreement. You just don't suddenly diminish that way. Medical or psychological. We are Youngstown, we run the ball. Everyone knows it, but no one can stop it.
SDSU stopped it
It has been a few weeks now.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Murray State Game Week
« on: November 13, 2023, 09:18:32 AM »Like any other game you start your best and play to win. Mitch is the best qb at this point. The other qbs, can get their playing time at the end of a blowout win by us.
I am 100% in agreement. You just don't suddenly diminish that way. Medical or psychological. We are Youngstown, we run the ball. Everyone knows it, but no one can stop it.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU Hosts #1 South Dakota State
« on: November 13, 2023, 06:29:57 AM »Here is simple solution for our money issues.
Yea keep playing that money game each year but how about more fans put their butts in a seat. 11,000 more per game at $20.00 for 6 home games would bring in about 1.3 million extra per year, not to mention parking and concessions.
That would give us the needed funds to upgrade the coaching staff like a lot of folks want. So you can make a case that the future of the football program is in our hands.
Likewise, a lot more people purchase tailgate tickets than go to the games, it is really a habit. So you may think there is only about 150 people with tickets, but I bet it is closer to 250. Those are season tickets. That is another $50k to $75k. Not to mention there is a great amount of missed opportunity there.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2023 Football: Constructive Criticism and Compliments
« on: November 12, 2023, 09:35:38 AM »I didn't know you could refuse an offer to be included in the playoffs outside the SWAC, MEAC or Ivy.
If YSU gets in the playoffs we should play
Actually, any team from those three conferences can certainly go to the play-off ... and has. We have played them. Even after the MEAC/SWAC Challenge was created. As far as I know (And I have no facts) any refusal is an individual decision. The Ivy League itself made the decision to not allow football after a certain date. This was supposedly for academic reasons & also the importance of the Ivy League Championship.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Murray State Game Week
« on: November 12, 2023, 09:18:43 AM »
Yes ET. What do you think about #10? What has happened to him the last few games? Maybe a hidden injury? Or has #1 improved that much?
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 2023 Football: Constructive Criticism and Compliments
« on: November 12, 2023, 09:03:20 AM »
I have so many things to talk about, this will be a short winter 
LOL The two things I wanted to start with are:
1. For the people that think a small handful of players is the gap between YSU and the upper-half of the conference. Think again. We need about 8 players (starting O and D only) just to field a team. I skipped WR's and #2's in my calculations there. We are at the end of an era here . We lose our QB, top WR, Both TBs, our top DE and DB, two on the O-Line and one on the D-line. Again these are only starters.
2. This year's play-off. There is still a chance that we see the play-off for this year. Do we want to accept any offer, or refuse it? Part of me does not want to waste the money. Traveling is so expensive. Also those of you that think we may draw a bottom-feeder need to realize this. Compared to most of the upper halves of the brackets ... WE are the bottom-feeder. The other part of me wants to give the team some post-season exposure for future seasons. Just not sure.
LOL The two things I wanted to start with are:1. For the people that think a small handful of players is the gap between YSU and the upper-half of the conference. Think again. We need about 8 players (starting O and D only) just to field a team. I skipped WR's and #2's in my calculations there. We are at the end of an era here . We lose our QB, top WR, Both TBs, our top DE and DB, two on the O-Line and one on the D-line. Again these are only starters.
2. This year's play-off. There is still a chance that we see the play-off for this year. Do we want to accept any offer, or refuse it? Part of me does not want to waste the money. Traveling is so expensive. Also those of you that think we may draw a bottom-feeder need to realize this. Compared to most of the upper halves of the brackets ... WE are the bottom-feeder. The other part of me wants to give the team some post-season exposure for future seasons. Just not sure.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Murray State Game Week
« on: November 12, 2023, 08:45:03 AM »Against Murray State YSU should play Brungard at QB. We need to find out if he is the QB for next year or do we have to go the transfer portal. I know one game will not answer the question, but it is a start. I know it is unfair to Davidson and the other seniors might not like it, but it should be done. Thoughts?
Good question. (If you do not mind I am going to use it to start the MSU game week thread). No, Brungard is not the man. We need to be looking to play further down the roster unless our guys have used the allowable playing time. Other than that we need to use Davidson. This is his team and a little respect and gratitude goes a long way with the younger players. Brungard has and will continue to contribute to this team.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / 2023 Football: Constructive Criticism and Compliments
« on: November 12, 2023, 08:38:53 AM »
I thought that I would begin this thread. Note that I used the words "Constructive" and "Compliments" in the title. Anyone can attack, and I know how angry we all are after yesterday's excuse for a football game. It certainly is difficult to find positive things to say. However, we are fans and this is our team, so let's make some quality replies.
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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU Hosts #1 South Dakota State
« on: November 10, 2023, 07:36:02 AM »
If you look at the top-6 team in the MVFC: YSU has either lost or not played all of them. This is why SDSU is a MUST Win for us. I know it is hard to see a team we have defeated ranked well above us (in SIU), but we are no longer an established power. We are Michigan prior to 3-years ago. We should also think about this when it comes to scheduling. Here are the current rankings by the coaches, which is pretty much the way things will be for play-off selection:
SDSU: 1
SD: 6
UND: 12
NDSU: 14
SIU: 15
UNI: 20
YSU: 26
Teams in Bold are the teams we have faced ranked in the top-24 (the number of teams in the post-season). All 3 are losses. The lone remaining team (we have yet to face) in the top-24 is SDSU. So, now the team knows what they have to do, show up and win a game. The fans know what they have to do, show up and support your team. So let's do it!!!
SDSU: 1
SD: 6
UND: 12
NDSU: 14
SIU: 15
UNI: 20
YSU: 26
Teams in Bold are the teams we have faced ranked in the top-24 (the number of teams in the post-season). All 3 are losses. The lone remaining team (we have yet to face) in the top-24 is SDSU. So, now the team knows what they have to do, show up and win a game. The fans know what they have to do, show up and support your team. So let's do it!!!