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Where do we belong in the top 25 (this year)?

Not even in. Get the blinders off. My gosh look how much NDSU improved in the last half of the season, they became the best team in the country & reputation is the only thing that got them in the play-off. Just as YSU did in the 90's when we played such light schedules and lost to any decent team played in the regular season. The upper-end Big Sky and CAA teams are clearly a step above us (Idaho, Montana, MSU, Nova & Albany). We were not going to beat Villanova & next year they will be playing with more future CUSA players that are even better. Look at all the FBS teams adding Villanova to their schedule

Nova lost to SDSU 23-12 OUT WEST, while YSU could not even manage a score against SDSU in a 34-0 loss AT HOME. We will not compete until we have the players.

I assume that you are kidding and just trying to spur some debate.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / ndsu coach
« on: December 11, 2023, 06:45:23 AM »
Seems that NDSU's head coach is leaving to be the linebackers coach at USC. Surprises me a bit, no doubt the money will be a big step up!

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10 or 11

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watched some of the nova/bunny game today, do not feel so bad about our loss to Nova. They were legit, gave SDSU all they could handle.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU men's team vs Western Michigan
« on: December 09, 2023, 02:20:27 PM »
Down to 5 now!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / YSU v mac
« on: December 06, 2023, 09:12:03 PM »
Women beat the zits at home and men beat OU in Athens for the first time since 1979

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU and the Portal
« on: December 06, 2023, 09:09:55 PM »
Pure money in the pocket

Wow, bye bye to the pretenders

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: The Separation of the P4 from everybody else
« on: December 06, 2023, 07:27:15 PM »
LAS VEGAS -- A day after NCAA President Charlie Baker made an aggressive and potentially groundbreaking pitch to allow some schools to pay their athletes, his proposal was met with praise, caution and questions from around college sports.

"I think Charlie has indicated his intent for that to begin a discussion," Southeastern Conference Commissioner Greg Sankey said Wednesday during an appearance at the Sports Business Journal's Intercollegiate Athletic Forum. "There's certainly a lot of content included from which to begin a discussion."

On Tuesday, Baker laid forth an aggressive and potentially groundbreaking vision for a new NCAA subdivision at the very top of college sports in a letter he sent to the more than 350 Division I schools.

Baker said his proposal to allow the most highly resourced schools in Division I to pay athletes through a trust fund is just a starting point as he tries to shift the association to be more proactive than reactive.

"We need to be able to anticipate where conversations are going and to try to get this big, huge, diverse [association] with 2,000 members -- like, oh my God! -- to a place where they're talking about stuff that's common and not just responding and reacting to other people's agendas," Baker said Wednesday during an appearance at the Sports Business Journal's Intercollegiate Athletic Forum.

Baker's proposal would require schools that want to be a part of a new tier of D-I to commit to paying their athletes tens of thousands of dollars per year on top of athletic scholarships.

He also suggested all Division I schools should bring name, image and likeness compensation for their athletes in-house through group licensing and remove limits on educational benefits schools can provide for athletes.

"Some people are going to say you're going too far and people will say but you're not going far enough," Baker said. "I promise you that's going to be where most of the dialogue on this will be in the short term."

Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark called Baker's proposal "directionally correct."

"We hired Charlie to lead and he's leading," Yormark said.

Baker said the proposal was formed from an amalgamation of conversations he has had with administrators and athletes from across college sports.

Sankey noted he did not see Baker's letter until it went out Tuesday.

Sankey said any attempt to reform college sports will be addressed in five arenas: the courts, Congress, state legislatures, conferences and the NCAA.

"All of those have to be part of the solution," Sankey said.

Baker said he believes about 100 schools might consider opting into a new subdivision.

There are 133 schools in Division 1 football's highest tier, the Football Bowl Subdivision. Baker's proposal seems targeted at about half those schools that compete in the five power conferences. That number of conferences is shrinking to four after recent realignment moves go into effect next year, but it will still encompass about 65 schools.

Baker and other NCAA leaders have been asking Congress for three years to create a law that would allow them to keep college athletes from becoming employees, create uniform rules for NIL deals and avoid future antitrust lawsuits. Those efforts have so far failed to gain significant momentum, with several key lawmakers telling the institutions they need to make efforts to solve their own problems before the government intervenes.

Baker, who took over as the NCAA president in March, has said multiple times during his tenure that he believes the highest-earning echelon of college sports operates in a different reality than the overwhelming majority of NCAA schools.

"Whatever plan emerges, will have to incorporate, probably, some college athletes as employees," said Mit Winter, a sports and entertainment attorney based in Kanas City, Missouri.

The NCAA is moving toward passing its own detailed NIL rules in January. No matter what the association does, Baker said, it still will need federal protection.

Baylor President Linda Livingstone said college sports leaders need to show lawmakers they have a plan to direct more of the billions of dollars that flow into major college athletics, mostly toward major college football and basketball, toward athletes.

"If Congress sees us saying 'hey, we want to benefit them more financially, but we believe keeping them from being employees helps us to support them in different ways and maybe better ways,' I think we might be able to get some of that protection that probably we won't get otherwise," Livingstone said.

Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner Jim Phillips said Baker needs now to gather support from various constituencies, from university presidents to athletic directors to coaches.

"It's not going to please everybody and maybe some (schools) can and can't do certain things," Phillips said. "So it's important now to get a reaction from the missive that Charlie sent."

Baker said differences in budget sizes across Division I have traditionally caused conflicts in the NCAA. He wants schools that have the ability to spend more on their athletes to be free do so.


The concern among some in college sports is that allowing the wealthiest schools to wield that power will create insurmountable competitive advantages.

"Recognizing that we're trying to be supportive as to a big tent approach but, as you saw yesterday with Charlie's memo, there's a new reality here," Sankey said.

Amy Perko, CEO of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics, said she wonders whether schools within the power conferences will be compelled to have fewer teams so they can direct more money to revenue generating sports.

"You don't want to create an incentive for those to drop sports," she said.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU and the Portal
« on: December 06, 2023, 07:02:41 PM »
The portal and NIL will kill this level of football. My brother teaches at Fitch. Pitt was there visiting some recruits. They give each scholarship player a minimum of $22k per year. It has always been hard to recruit at the FCS level. But why would anyone choose an FCS school over FBS? Nova has rarely been able to out recruit the likes of Temple and Rutgers. NIL and the portal will make that impossible going forward.

Pardon me if I am naive, but does that 22k include tuition and housing or is it free money?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU and the Portal
« on: December 06, 2023, 06:41:03 AM »
9 defensive players are in the portal.   Sucks

Would love to know why. Are they unhappy with the coaches, are the coaches unhappy with them, something else?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU and the Portal
« on: December 05, 2023, 07:52:07 AM »

 Plus now with the portal the bigger schools can cherry pick off the smaller schools especially with NIL to build depth etc

If that is how the game is played now, I assume that we will cherry pick off the smaller schools, aka D2.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU and the Portal
« on: December 05, 2023, 07:46:59 AM »
Howard is has. 1 yr left as a grad so I think rules states he has to transfer.  In his twitter he had sd Michigan St offered and Liberty already.
If I was a YSU receiver I would be concerned about who is throwing to me in 24.  Could be growing pains and some guys don’t want to waste a year for that.
 Plus now with the portal the bigger schools can cherry pick off the smaller schools especially with NIL to build depth etc

If he has to xfer that is one thing and a smart move.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Football: 2024 and Beyond
« on: December 04, 2023, 08:21:51 AM »
Need a DC.

Whoever calls plays for the O, we need someone else.

Not sure if BB is the answer at qb.

Always can use more and better talent but that is the case for everyone.

More to come .........

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maybe we are not the stuff yet but we did do some good things this season. Would like to think that we had something to do with the way SIU played. Nova, SDSU and OSU were better then us.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Championship Odds (11/28 Update)
« on: December 03, 2023, 01:05:18 PM »
Our odds are now equivalent to teams seeded #5 and #8

Hopefully this gives people perspective on how far we've actually come since Pelini left the program in shambles.

People need to think again about hating on Phillips.  We have a young team and a bright future (as long as we get a QB and fill some holes).  Much more difficult to replace holes when it comesnto the OL.and DL.  Hopefully we can go to the portal for some skill positions.
I'm 100% in on stopping the negativity on Phillips. We have a loot coming back and Brungard is going to be better than Davidson as will Harris outshine King. We should be 2 games better next year.

Brungard is NOT YSU's starter. I he is, then we will be worse than I already thought.

If not Brungard, and I am not saying he should be, who? Or someone not on the roster yet?


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