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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« on: December 15, 2023, 08:08:20 PM »
South Dakota State is curb stomping Albany. We are better than Albany. What a s*** show
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Haha. Lots to think about in this thread. Someone just said this board is hating. We can’t do that!!! Palladian and nation have been calling this the cheerleader board for far too long.
Tressel, attendance, the 90’s OH MY!!! To be clear on some of the posts, Heacock got us in the playoffs once in ‘06. The Wolf couldn’t win in November let alone win enough to make the playoffs.
Funny how no one mentions big BP much. You talk sooo much about kids coaching kids but fail to remember what HIS staff consisted of. Maybe it’s NOT about inexperienced staff or the lack of money but rather, we just haven’t found another Tressel. Hate to break it to ya…we probably wont. JT, attendance AND the 90’s were an anomaly. Not likely to happen again. Look at the crumble happening in NDSU. And look at the attendance at Nova. If memory serves me, I heard 5k fans? And what did we have the week before, 3,500? Man…that’s a helluva margin. What’s that tell you? ITS. NOT. JUST. YSU. And who said NDSU attendance is even falling? And they’re only a COUPLE years removed from their dynasty.
Hate to break THIS to you also. IF we happen to be ranked top 10 this year, I’d say that’s not too shabby, actually.
Look, I get it…I want to be a power house. I wish the 90’s never happened as even I want that again.
I’d say, be satisfied with the very small incremental progress we have made over the last few years and go to church. Cuz ain’t too many more flags gonna be hung without some prayer and another anomaly.
Go GUINS!!!
Dude, the 93 and 94 teams were littered with legit D1 players that either stayed home or transferred back. Tressel worked that like a master. There probably aren’t more than a small handful of kids on the current roster that could have played for those teams. FCS 2023 is D2 when compared to 1AA in the 90s
All about money and opportunity. Per yahoo report he is making $400k at NDSU. Gotta be more at USC. And he’s getting a step up in the coaching ranks by moving from the minor leagues to the majors.
BB rushed for 129 YDS on 28 attempts for a 4.6 yds average and 3 TD's. Passed for 108 yds 14-20 with 1 INT.
Hell, King only averaged 5.4 yds per rush.
So, we can conclude that his rushing numbers are decent considering everybody including Stevie Wonder knew he was running the ball as he entered the game. Passing was 70% completion rate in a limited role throwed into a game.
Bottom line: I'm hoping he's cut from cloth his dad is (best QB ever to play at YSU) and be a winner without the crazy record-breaking stats that hasn't won sh** from the previous QB's everyone went gaga for!
Transfer portal project QB will be a disgrace and hopefully we'll see BB hit the xfer portal.
Let's not forget that Tressel, with the exception of Ken Connatzer (sp?) and veteran high school coach Bob Stoops, had a very young coaching staff. Some of these guys advanced to become prominent head coaches and coordinators. And that was an era when P5 assistants were not making too much more money than IAA head coaches.
The issue is not that Phillips has a young staff; the issue is does he have the right staff? Can these guys grow into good coaches and move on, to be replaced by the next generation of ambitious young men? Right now I feel that the problem with our defensive coaches is not their youth but rather their basic competence. You can't evolve in your profession if you lack the ability to be in that profession.
Where do we belong in the top 25 (this year)?
Not even in. Get the blinders off. My gosh look how much NDSU improved in the last half of the season, they became the best team in the country & reputation is the only thing that got them in the play-off. Just as YSU did in the 90's when we played such light schedules and lost to any decent team played in the regular season. The upper-end Big Sky and CAA teams are clearly a step above us (Idaho, Montana, MSU, Nova & Albany). We were not going to beat Villanova & next year they will be playing with more future CUSA players that are even better. Look at all the FBS teams adding Villanova to their schedule
Nova lost to SDSU 23-12 OUT WEST, while YSU could not even manage a score against SDSU in a 34-0 loss AT HOME. We will not compete until we have the players.
I assume that you are kidding and just trying to spur some debate.
Where do we belong in the top 25 (this year)?
Not even in. Get the blinders off. My gosh look how much NDSU improved in the last half of the season, they became the best team in the country & reputation is the only thing that got them in the play-off. Just as YSU did in the 90's when we played such light schedules and lost to any decent team played in the regular season. The upper-end Big Sky and CAA teams are clearly a step above us (Idaho, Montana, MSU, Nova & Albany). We were not going to beat Villanova & next year they will be playing with more future CUSA players that are even better. Look at all the FBS teams adding Villanova to their schedule
Nova lost to SDSU 23-12 OUT WEST, while YSU could not even manage a score against SDSU in a 34-0 loss AT HOME. We will not compete until we have the players.
Seems that NDSU's head coach is leaving to be the linebackers coach at USC. Surprises me a bit, no doubt the money will be a big step up!
Hard to upgrade a coaching staff while paying very low salaries. No seasoned coach is coming here for $50k. You get what you pay for. During the Nova game they showed YSU coaches in the press box. They were all in their 20s if appeared. Maybe good coaches with potential
, but that was eye opening
Process of elimination. We were better than every team except for the playoff participants from the MVFC, Big Sky, and CAA.
We were better than Sacramento State and Idaho, but inferior to Montana and Montana State.
We were better than Richmond and Delaware, but inferior to Albany and Villanova.
We were vastly inferior to SDSU and NDSU.
We were better than North Dakota, the most overrated team in our conference.
That leaves SIU, South Dakota, and UNI. The latter two beat us so I guess that I will place us below them. But UNI was terrible by the end of the year.
I would place us in position #9.
Im not gonna say DP is THE guy, because I don’t know if he is. But please stop with the “principal” or “plenty of D2/3 coaches” crap. You’re making yourselves look silly. You act like we never went 33-28 over 4 years, and 21-24 in 4 of 5 years, or lost to Butler with not just a D2 high school principal, BUT rather a POWER 5 coach. By your logic, we should have had 4-star recruits and back to back championships from 2014-2019 with said-type of coach. Except, we had ALL of that. And last I checked, BP doesn’t have an education degree nor did he ever coach at the D2/2 level.
Nice post.
I agree.
We should finish in the top 16 this year. Let's say we finish 16th. That puts us in the 88th percentile of all FCS teams. We weren't competitive a few years ago.
One last thing......I have a lot of respect for Bob Hannon's take with regard to FCS football. He's exceptionally knowledgeable. He not a casual fan by any means. If you listen to his broadcasts he hints to everyone the talent depth and future of YSU football under Phillips and most of it is positive.
Everyone here should have known that when we played teams like USD and SDSU (both of them are still playing in the final we were unable to get pressure on their QB and as a result they had all day to throw and make our defense look incompetent. We are a couple of players away and another year of development away from fixing this issue. I didn't understand how people can think you flip a switch with a coach and you get the best team in the country that plays the way you remember in the 1990's. It's going to take time to build it right. And as I've said before, we've gotten better under Phillips every single year.
Good take.
Nobody "Makes Your Defense Look Incompetent". It is like a 100m run ... if the guy in the lane next to you is faster, all things being equal, he will win. Likewise if the team that you are playing is better ...they will win. We had a good runner stumble against us (SIU) and we think we are "the stuff". I mean, what else did we do this season?We had a handful of good players make good plays. The problem was that Villanova's entire team was better than ours. I said that I would give Phillips another year, with the COVID season and I will. Let's start another thread with what you see for 2024 and beyond.
Im not gonna say DP is THE guy, because I don’t know if he is. But please stop with the “principal” or “plenty of D2/3 coaches” crap. You’re making yourselves look silly. You act like we never went 33-28 over 4 years, and 21-24 in 4 of 5 years, or lost to Butler with not just a D2 high school principal, BUT rather a POWER 5 coach. By your logic, we should have had 4-star recruits and back to back championships from 2014-2019 with said-type of coach. Except, we had ALL of that. And last I checked, BP doesn’t have an education degree nor did he ever coach at the D2/2 level.
Why didn't they put Brungard in at the end to get him game experience throwing and not to run? We do have alot coming back but the QB position is not good at all with Mitch leaving. I think King may have another year from what I hear . We battled but too much Villanova