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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: The Separation of the P4 from everybody else

« on: December 06, 2023, 11:36:15 AM »

Well, I mean, it is semi-pro, right? It has been for a very, very long time. It is kind of silly the NFL has this free minor league system masquerading around as collegiate sports. 

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Y Helmet Stickers

« on: August 23, 2023, 03:01:37 PM »

I don't think we've had a good play since

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: March Madness should be our focus not football.

« on: March 25, 2023, 12:50:25 PM »

I am sure the MAC wouldn't willingly go down to FCS. My vision is a new structure to college football. I doubt Charlie Baker has the imagination for something radical though. Anyway----there is a level of college football that is really semi-pro football. The interest level and attendance is similar to the NFL. A good number of the student athletes are not serious students. There are currently ~130 FBS programs and ~125 FCS programs. I would suggest a three division format instead.

Division A-----This would be the top 64 programs in college football that are playing in your tradition Power 5 level of football. Split the league into 8 regions with 8 teams per region or something to that effect.

Division B----This would be the next 100 or so programs. This would include your traditional crappy lower level FBS teams (e.g. the MAC) and your upper-to-middle tier FCS teams.

Division C----This would be all the rest. Your low level FCS team and your non-scholly programs.

There would be a playoff at each level for the champion. You could have a relegation/move up system for programs that regularly excel or stink at each level.

In some ways, this system already exists. the top-top version of college football is what really captures the national attention....so let's call it what it is. By having regional conferences at the top level, this can limit this silly conference hoping that happens. The TV money for this top tier should be nuts. This would do away with this silliness of barely noticeable football programs jumping to FBS to be non-competitive or play in a bowl game no one cares about. I also think this allows for better competition by placing the sacrificial lambs together at different levels.

I suspect Charlie Baker will continue on with this amateurism farce though with big time college sports. I would just appreciate a return to some regional rivalries and some acknowledgement that there is a huge gap between the top of FBS football and the middle, let alone the bottom. Let's reduce some of the incentives for schools to throw good money after bad pretending they can compete in something they have no business competing in.   

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: March Madness should be our focus not football.

« on: March 21, 2023, 01:43:28 PM »

I think Jim Calhoun would challenge where UConn's basketball prowess originated from.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Who are the biggest rivals?

« on: March 21, 2023, 11:50:43 AM »

My guess is this clunky text editing thing this website does that takes every instance of A-S-S and puts dollars signs in for the Ss. This would have broken the web link

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: March Madness should be our focus not football.

« on: March 20, 2023, 09:08:03 AM »

Obviously, this is a bit of a false choice and biased after a fun basketball season. That said----I agree that the conference is certainly more fun with natural rivals. I feel also like it is easier to envision what success looks like in basketball here and how to get to that point. With FCS football, and college football in general, I feel like there is another shoe that is due to drop. Competitively, the sport is structured really weird. I just don't see how/why MAC programs are considered the same level as SEC, for example. I am hopefully there is a real overhaul to the system and at some point YSU is able to compete in a more regionally relevant conference in football. Jumping to BCS football seems dumb right now to me as the "who care?" is basically the same for FCS football and whatever crappy bowl game the MAC champ plays in. But, if there was a mid-division division I, then I think that is something to aspire to that includes your MAC school, etc. Let the semi-professional college teams have their own division. 

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Wolf man raise

« on: March 14, 2023, 09:32:33 AM »

making a $1M a year being an offensive line coach for a college team. What a country!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: NKU

« on: March 10, 2023, 07:55:09 AM »

He said "projected". I am guessing the info came from here: https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Son of Pete Maravich, ‘Sick to My Stomach’

« on: March 09, 2023, 11:35:45 AM »

I have to admit, I didn't know who held the most career college points up until about two weeks ago. The records are nice and all, but they mean way less to people in reality than we tend to think in the moment. Whether or not Davis breaks the record, two years from now, everyone will still know Pistol Pete was an all-time great and no one will remember Davis played basketball outside of the people at Detroit.

Can you imagine being on the Detroit team though and the whole thing the last few years has been an elaborate way for the coach's son to run up stats? Doesn't that stuff stop after grade school LOL

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Son of Pete Maravich, ‘Sick to My Stomach’

« on: March 09, 2023, 07:13:03 AM »

and the day after, everyone will forget who Pistol Pete was and know that Antonie Davis was truly better than Maravich in every conceivable way.

Eh----It's a weak way to break a record, if it happens. I think the whole world sees the difference....and the fact Davis probably won't have much of a professional career will seal that too.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: CSU vs NKU Horizon league championship

« on: March 08, 2023, 09:15:30 AM »

From a purely basketball perspective, it was fun having such a balanced conference and being in the mix. I generally don't like college basketball as much as the pros just due to quality of play. But----the tournament games were really fun and compelling. There wasn't a ton of daylight between the top 4 teams in the conference and the next tier down wasn't terrible.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: NKU

« on: March 06, 2023, 09:31:01 PM »

If you are going to point out FT discrepancies, it should be noted that NKU had 12 FTs in the last 2:30 minutes to none for YSU. When you are forced to foul because you are down, it isn’t because of something that happened last week

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dan Rivers local media radio questions why we are in MVFC? His Facebook post.

« on: December 24, 2022, 12:20:32 PM »

This thing does go in circles. I would love to see YSU in the MAC for natural rivalries and such----but I do think it makes sense for the program to see how BCS football really sorts itself out in the next few years. I would love to see division I football split into three divisions-----the semi-pro football division, a lower tier BCS (which YSU could aspire to), and then the FCS. As I stated earlier in this thread, it is downright ridiculous to pretend conferences like the MAC are competing in the same sport as Alabama, OSU, etc. These schools are just throwing away money on substandard products that no one is watching anyway.

I was talking to a buddy and we were saying you can do some soccer like relegation thing between the divisions too.

Anyway, it seems silly to me to invest more money in this program for a move to FCS when it feels like there is a bigger shake up coming to the sport. The UCLA/USC thing to the Big Ten is just so weird that it really calls for some serious global thinking about where college sports are going

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Dan Rivers local media radio questions why we are in MVFC? His Facebook post.

« on: December 04, 2022, 08:54:23 AM »

This argument is a bit circular in some points. Some of these teams that made the playoffs instead of YSU are automatic bids from weaker conferences. YSU has a higher ranking in the Sagarin thing because of SoS. If YSU was in a weaker conference, the SoS wouldn't be as high and, therefore, the ranking wouldn't be as high either. Now, was this year's team better than some of the automatic qualifiers? Sure. But, this would have been a back of the bracket team regardless.

As for leaving MVFC----the travel complaints are probably the most compelling argument to me. I am just not sure what the alternative conference would be. I keep expecting some reordering of D-I football and somehow we see us in the same division level as MAC schools or something, but with the expanded playoff coming, maybe that isn't realistic anymore. It just seems silly to pretend these some of these conferences are competing at the same level as the SEC and Big Ten.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Why they would choose us for the playoffs

« on: November 21, 2022, 01:46:31 PM »

2012 isn't a totally fair comparison because that was still the 16 team field.

The 2013 team did lose three in a row, including getting blasted in back-to-back home games at the end of the year against playoff teams.

It is disappointing though that they didn't make it. Not letting Mo. State to drive 92 years would have probably been a good idea in retrospect