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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Football only post-game talk

« on: January 12, 2017, 03:18:56 PM »

congrats on a great season guys!

just now coming on here to read this thread. I don't want to get into a what-if contest and go back and forth about specific plays or turnovers, etc. Both teams left plays out there. Both teams were missing key guys both before and lost during the game. That happens. We could go on all day about that. But bottom line is, we won fairly comfortably and most neutrals have said that and would agree with that.

I really think we had the best team in FCS by far this year. Many of us JMU fans felt as the season went on this team was special and we were going to win the title. And after all the heartbreaks in the playoffs in the past we've had, for it to be almost unanimous among all us Dukes fans to think that way, just shows how much we believed in this team and really felt they were loaded and special and destined to win the title. And that's how it played out.

with all that said, about your team, I thought you guys had the best, most physical defense we played all year. Maybe even more so than UNC. you guys hit HARD! Definitely more than NDSU and don't get me started on Soft Houston State. And tackles that most of our guys were breaking all year we couldn't break last weekend. you have a great tackling team. seemed to me like the first guy there was almost always making the play.

I think the difference really came down to our D vs your O. Our D has improved a ton as the year went on and by the end was a major strength of our team. They seemed to take you guys out of what you really wanted to do from a game plan perspective. And then when the score got to 21-0, it really made you turn to page 2.

anyway, great season. sucks to lose, but i'd bet before the season started if you guys were told you'd go to the title game and have such a great year, you probably would have taken it. I'm sure you'll be back.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 570 tonight

« on: January 03, 2017, 11:10:13 AM »

I wonder if we could put in a FOIA for how much YSU bid for playoff games. JMU almost always loses bids to their home playoff games. Heck, it's likely most schools outside of NDSU end up whiffing on the bids. I would think the band should be there, I believe each school gets up to 350 band tickets. JMU can't bring there whole band for the seats but like Jacksonville State last year they may be able to be seated elsewhere.

we've only been outbid once. ever.

that was when EKU had the OVC kick in a ton of money to help with their bid.

My bad for wording that poorly. I meant to say that JMU usually loses money on its bids, but since the EKU debacle they don't care. A concession is that private funds have been available to fill in the gaps, but it still stands that JMU will bid at all costs. I read an article about the 2014 game with Liberty. The school placed a bid contingent upon an attendance of 23,000. Didn't get it, but school still said the bid was worth it. I was just using that to make a point about how just because a school may lose money on a playoff game that shouldn't deter the school from requesting as many championship game tickets as possible.

https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/final-tally-dukes-lose-126k-on-playoff-game

yes, we purposely bid high on that one because we knew we were likely to get paired up with Liberty based on how the season was going, and they have money to burn. Even the LU AD was shocked he lost that bid.

And we were not going to have another EKU situation as that caused a big uproar.

the reality is, JMU has rarely been in a bid situation. We've either been a seeded team and not had to worry about it, or we've been sent to play a seeded team.

I believe bids have only come into play those 2 times....EKU (lost) and Liberty (won).

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 570 tonight

« on: January 03, 2017, 11:04:03 AM »

no. you guys were seeded 4th

that's why JMU fans were so ticked. We were basically 5th and they sent us to play you guys due to their stupid geography rules.

because you were seeded, the game had to be at your place. bids never came into play.

here is the bracket:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 570 tonight

« on: January 03, 2017, 10:56:04 AM »

I wonder if we could put in a FOIA for how much YSU bid for playoff games. JMU almost always loses bids to their home playoff games. Heck, it's likely most schools outside of NDSU end up whiffing on the bids. I would think the band should be there, I believe each school gets up to 350 band tickets. JMU can't bring there whole band for the seats but like Jacksonville State last year they may be able to be seated elsewhere.

we've only been outbid once. ever.

that was when EKU had the OVC kick in a ton of money to help with their bid.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: 570 tonight

« on: January 03, 2017, 10:55:21 AM »

I was at all the championship games.  The 91 game my guess there was 500-700 of us.  I have the same picture that Strollo has that was taken and we were lost in a sea of green.  But I have to believe the 3 years in Marshall we sent more than 1k.  It seems when we went in 97 and 99 there was at least 2k? Am I wrong?

I was at all of them. The Villanova game had more people than the final game in Huntington, kind of odd. Then again, 1/2 of Ytown comes from Philly area. I still think we had the most back in 1994. It looked like we had around 4k-to 5k, but I also think that could have been an illusion because Boise had very few people there. The tailgating in Georgia was fantastic ...it was a sea of red, but the game was certainly not. This year is very similar to that. The team caught everyone by surprise back then people did not know what to do. I was pretty young back in 1979, but that seems to be the biggest final crowd that I remember. 

Take those JMU numbers with a grain of salt as well. As I understand from my two calls, they took more opening day tickets that we did, but neither team used all of their 3k paper tickets and neither team ordered a second set beyond team and student seats, which are fixed at 125 on top of the two per player. I am also told that the player seats are not complimentary as it would be considered compensation? I do not buy that. Can any former players shed some light on how family tickets work?

nope. not true. we sold 7,000 tickets through the school. our estimates of 10,000 will be pretty accurate.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: YSU vs James Madison for the National Championship

« on: December 29, 2016, 12:13:52 PM »

Comparing results of the Richmond game with JMU and EWU has very little value because Richmond by the start of the playoffs had endured ridiculous season-ending injuries to 11 starters including their stud quarterback.  They might have been healthy when they played JMU.

I fully expect JMU to be at full strength on their offensive line.  But if they must play without their tackle who was out against NDSU and without their center who was injured during the NDSU game, I like our chances at controlling the trenches. 

Our fate will probably rest with our offensive line.  These guys rolled up over 200 yards on the ground against at least three teams (UNI, Jacksonville State, Wofford) that were, at the time, giving up less than 100 rushing yards.

Yep, exactly that.  Also, for a team who has come on late I'd expect you all to realize that the Richmond game was a turning point for our team.  The results thereafter are a way better sample of who our team really is. 

Our DLine and LB corps held NDSU's run game in check, so I think we will be able to do the same to you all.  We're really lucky that if you stack the box our QB and WRs can make you pay and if you decide to cover the pass our RB and even QB if needed can move the chains on the ground. 

Even if we weren't at full strength on our OLine, is your DLine that much better than NDSU's?  Because even down our center and right tackle we were able to make big plays.

We don't stack the box and usually only rush 4. LB and DB attack on runs, but are susceptible to getting it thrown over their heads.

That's bad news for you guys then, as our team is excellent at throwing the deep ball.  Schor has so many different weapons to throw to as well.

Yeah thats what EWU said too.

well, they did put up 38 points on you.

we've given up more than 24 points 3 times this year.

to North Carolina.
to Richmond.
and to UNH when we led 42-10 going into the 4th quarter and they recovered some onside kicks and made the score look a lot more respectable than the game really was.