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I suggest we make this the main thread to discuss all of the head coaching candidates. The other thread can be used to discuss the Wolf buyout, etc.
FootballScoop.com
Youngstown State (FCS – OH): Eric Wolford will be bought out of his contract per sources. We have been told that it is a $100,000 buyout. Brett McMurphy first reported the news this evening. Coaches are telling us to expect the new head coach to have direct ties to Youngstown State president (and former head coach) Jim Tressel.
CoachingScoop.com
Youngstown State: Head coach Eric Wolford will not return next season, according to ESPN's Brett McMurphy. Wolford went 31-30 in five seasons at YSU. One name that could be considered for the job is Wisconsin-Whitewater's Lance Leipold. Former YSU and Ohio State coach Jim Tressel became YSU's president earlier this year.
@andrewrivins Brian Wright to Youngstown State rumors swirling. Best record (4-0) out of any interim coach the past 5 seasons. Sorry, Ed.
@FootballScoop It’s really amazing how many quality coaches have come through Youngstown. Tressel &co. will have plenty of good options.
@FootballScoop Tressel can be pretty convincing so I wouldn’t close the door, just telling you I don’t think he will be the next guy up at YSU
@FootballScoop At Ohio State, Fickell is making $600k+. Wolford, at YSU, was making ~$250k. For that reason & others, I don’t think Fick is next at YSU
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I would really like to see a man with successful head coaching experience. Of course, Tressel did not have it and might not consider it a prerequisite. Anybody have the scoop on the Whitewater coach? Old or young? Is he responsible for their many championships or did he recently walk into that position? Would he leave a comfortable situation to rebuild YSU? Remember that in D3 they recruit just like the other divisions, relying on need-based and academic money.
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Leopoldo built the program from ground up. The WSCAA is considered 2nd best behind the Ohio Athltic Conference in D-3. That should be Leipold,lol. No longer young and does not have the type of recruiting experience needed for this level. Successful coach but you wonder how lacking he is for this level.School located not far from Chicago, Milwaukee and othe metro areas providing parochial big H. S. Programs to recruit for a D-3 program.
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Darn it, I just couldn't resist jumping in once I saw the discussion about D3. D3 football is a subject i've got a bit of expertise in, I was a play by play announcer for mount union's student run station and covered Mount's playoff runs a few years ago... Anyway just a few corrections and thoughts to the Lance Liepold suggestion.
1) LL did not build Whitewater's program from the ground up, he inherited a program that had been to the national title the two previous years when he took over as coach in 2007.
2) Wisconsin's conference the WIAC, is like the SEC of D3, the OAC is a bit topheavy with mount.
Obviously I'm biased but I'd rather see Mount Union's Head Coach Vince Kehres go to YSU.
Vince took over for his dad, (11 time national champion coach Larry Kehres) last year. Though he has a lot of ties to Mount Union he's still a pretty young guy who I could see wanting to move up.
Reasons he'd be a perfect fit at YSU
1) Ohio guy, not a Youngstown native or anything but knows the Northeast Ohio football culture, not to mention he is very familiar with recruiting local schools.
2) Has a winning mindset. Comes from literally the most dominant dynasty in all of college football. I'm not sure how much of it will translate to D1, but you've got to think that this guy won't tolerate mediocrity for very long.
3) Tressel's Alma Mater is Baldwin Wallace, another OAC team. Not sure if it means much but I'd like to think it means tressel will respect a coach from that level.
4) Defensive minded - Before becoming HC at Mount Vince was the defensive coordinator for years. It seems like D has been the weaker side of the ball for YSU lately.
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Will not happen.
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Don't see Kehres coming here. Especially after just taking over for his father.
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Don't see Kehres coming here. Especially after just taking over for his father.
I don't really see it either... but a guy can dream.
I was thinking that since he's only in his 2nd year as had coach he'd be more likely to move on
than if he'd really settled into the role.
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Just wondering...who is right about Leopold? Paladin or Kandrase?
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I know nothing about FB.
However, many a year not only Mount , but also John Carrol and BW Are Top 10 teams. Whitewater is usually the only league team ranked. Years ago LaCrosse was the league power. SEC ? Leipold I believe was the DC before he became HC. Makes little difference. Do not see him making a big jump to D-1. Lacks D-1 or D-2 experience where recruiting is way different as well as the skills coached.
But I will yield to the local 'expert', lol
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Not sure if LL would be a good coach at a higher level, but I don't take my local expert title lightly darn it.
Two years ago UWW fell off and didn't make the playoffs but their conference rival made it all the way to the d3 semi finals. That's pretty impressive for any conference.
Also d3Fb.com usually ranks the WIAC as the toughest conference in the country and their pretty much the most reputable source for D3 football information.
Also John Carrol, Mount and BW all being ranked in the top 10 has Never happened. They've all been ranked but I don't think any conference in D3 has ever had 3 top 10 teams, there are twice as many teams in d3 as d1 so it's extremely hard to get very many teams from one conference ranked at all.
-Anyway that's enough D3 talk, just wanted to share some of my knowledge with you all.
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Good breakdown:
http://footballscoop.com/news/youngstown-state-head-coach-eric-wolford-will-return/
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A list of potential coaches listed on Vindy.com - be warned some are reasonable, others not so much. http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/nov/25/ysus-next-football-coach-a-list-of-poten/
Stan Drayton — Ohio State assistant head coach and running backs coach. YSU connection: Hired by Jim Tressel at Ohio State in 2011, just before then-Buckeyes coach resigned. Head coaching experience: No.
Luke Fickell — Ohio State co-defensive coordinator. YSU connection: Former special teams and linebackers coach and co-DC for the Buckeyes under Tressel. Head coaching experience: Yes, 6-7 with OSU in 2011.
Mark Mangino — Iowa State offensive coordinator and tight ends coach. YSU connection: Former assistant under Tressel. Spent 2013 as Penguins assistant head coach and TEs coach. Head coaching experience: Yes, 50-48 at Kansas from 2002-09.
Mike Priefer — Minnesota Vikings special teams coordinator. YSU connection: Former assistant under Tressel. Head coaching experience: No.
Pete Rekstis — Rhode Island defensive coordinator. YSU connection: Former Penguins player and assistant under Tressel. Defensive coordinator under Heacock. Head coaching experience: No.
Rick Shepas — Waynesburg head coach. YSU connection: Played for the Penguins under Tressel. Head coaching experience: Yes, 64-40 at Waynesburg since 2005.
Mark Snyder — Texas A&M defensive coordinator. YSU connection: Former assistant and DC under Tressel at YSU and OSU. Head coaching experience: Yes, 22-37 at Marshall from 2005-09.
Don Treadwell — Kent State running backs coach. YSU connection: Former assistant under Tressel. Head coaching experience: Yes, 8-21 at Miami of Ohio from 2011-13.
Brian Wright — Florida Atlantic offensive coordinator. YSU connection: Former Penguins assistant under Tressel and Jon Heacock. Head coaching experience: Yes, 4-0 as interim at FAU in 2013.
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Let's consider Trent Boykin - Running Backs Coach Akron University. Hometown: Kent, Ohio
YSU connection: Former Penguins assistant under Tressel and Jon Heacock. Played on three Division I-AA national championship teams (1991, 1993, 1994) at Youngstown State under head coach Jim Tressel. He completed his collegiate career ranked second on the Penguin’s career receptions (150) list and seventh in career receiving yards (1,950). He also held the school record for career punt returns (74) and career punt return yardage (534), and was named the program’s outstanding offensive player in 1994.
Head coaching experience: Yes
Year-By-Year Coaching Experience:
1996-97 – Akron (graduate assistant)
1998 – Boston College (graduate assistant)
1999 – Tiffin (receivers)
2000-02 – Youngstown State (receivers / special teams)
2003-04 – Ball State (running backs /special teams)
2005-07 – Kentucky State (assistant head coach / offensive coordinator)
2008-09 – Lane College (head coach) (4-17 record)
2010 – Lambuth (co-offensive coordinator / quarterbacks)
2011 – Wayne State (running backs)
2012-current – Akron (running backs)
via: http://gozips.com/sports/fball/2012-13/coaches/boykin_trent
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Lot of names are going to get tossed around. I would like to see YSU hire someone with head coaching expierence(FB$, FCS, or Divison II). Coach Wright would actually be a good choice. He is still young, and he has coached here before.
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Strange thread below on twitter?? Bo Pelini back to YSU or JT coach/president and Wolford to Montana Griz as HC?? :o
Joel Schafer@joelschafer·16h16 hours ago
“@McMurphyESPN: Eric Wolford fired at Youngstown State, source told @ESPN” HELLO BO PELINI!! COME HOME BO!
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Matt Macdonald@Omahamacdonald·16h16 hours ago
@McMurphyESPN Hmmm...landing spot for Pelini if he's let go?
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TMayneII@TMayneII·16h16 hours ago
@McMurphyESPN @ESPN @mpopovichREP Jim Tressel, President / Coach?
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Brandan Gross@swaggytheniggaB·16h16 hours ago
@TheAustinMcCain @McMurphyESPN @espn will played with him well nebraska will be open depending Friday
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HW@HeyNowHW·16h16 hours ago
@McMurphyESPN sadly no games left, as Tressel could have pulled a double-dip that would have put Barry Alvarez to shame.
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Merritt@titansfan4life·16h16 hours ago
Tressel back. “@McMurphyESPN: Eric Wolford fired at Youngstown State, source told @ESPN”
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Matt Smith@MattSmithCFB·16h16 hours ago
Has a university president (besides Saban) ever coached football too? #SweaterVest MT @McMurphyESPN Eric Wolford fired at Youngstown State
Evan Zachary Stein@EZStein464·16h16 hours ago
@McMurphyESPN @espn I know Tressel said he retired from coaching, but would he change his mind now that the HC job is open at YSU?
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Jon_Seely@Jonphils·16h16 hours ago
Tressel for prez and coach "@McMurphyESPN: Eric Wolford fired at Youngstown State, source told @ESPN”
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Shawn Burns@HoosierDaddy412·16h16 hours ago
@McMurphyESPN @espn Tressel Time!!! #ysu #espncleveland
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Sammy Saunders@SammySaundersMT·16h16 hours ago
@McMurphyESPN @Bobcat_Beat @espn the next @UMGRIZZLIES football coach?!?!
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Josh Fink@jtfink27·16h16 hours ago
@McMurphyESPN @espn Time for Bo to go back home
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AJ Fritsche@Fritsche12·16h16 hours ago
“@McMurphyESPN: Eric Wolford fired at Youngstown State, source told @ESPN” - And @therealJeffJ97 weeps...he'll be back. Good OL coach.
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Colter Nuanez@Bobcat_Beat·15h15 hours ago
@SammySaundersMT @McMurphyESPN @UMGRIZZLIES just 31-25 in five seasons, never better than 8-4 or@2nd in MVC. Much more qualified candidates
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Sammy Saunders@SammySaundersMT·15h15 hours ago
@Bobcat_Beat @McMurphyESPN @UMGRIZZLIES probably!!!
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I think Rick Shepas would be a logical interview first off but if a coach at a school that doesnt offer scholarships has a successful record why wouldnt we be interested? If a coach can get athletes by only offering financial aid , wouldnt you think he can recruit at our level? I think thats where we need to look. However, I dont agree with the notion that we need to stay away from anyone with YSU or Youngstown ties. We need the right hire, no matter where we find him. It should prove interesting
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Ha! Bo ain't coming here. Keep dreaming'.
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Why does it have to be someone with Youngstown connection? That doesn't qualify them, it limits the pool. My gosh people are you all serious? What assistant coach in Tressel's and YSU's past are that special? Daryl Hazel is the only one I'm impressed with. We are still an upper tier FCS program although we have been slipping and part of the reason is the damned thought process and restrictions that everyone is discussing. We shouldn't limit the selection to Youngstown that is how we got here in the first place.
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Last year the former coach recruited 24 high school players. ONly one player was from the Mahoning County. None from Columbiana, none from Trumbull co. The new coach should be rethinking not recruiting this area.
Also, the new coach needs to have 1a experience. Ia experience to take the football program to 1a. YSU's basketball program, has been 1a for sometime. Time to move on.
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Tired of people saying "Oh, well maybe if you recruit the Mahoning Valley more...."
People don't realize the talent level in this community has dropped off greatly in the past couple years.
You'll get the few D1 studs like LJ Scott and George Hill who go to the Big10, but other than that....
The talent just isn't as fruitful as it once was.
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TheRb from Brookfield got signed here and I chuckled. Where is he. Do you know how many Mooney and Ursuline players didn't work out ? The area is buried with cronyism , yet better athletes come here from hotbeds in Fla. ,Calif. and other states beating out area athletes for playing time. What 'amazing' stars should have been offered ? Lol.
Loser
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I know some folks would find this a poor idea but.....Mike Tressel? LB coach under Dantonio.
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I have a gut feeling that our new coach will be a man that has not yet been mentioned on this board or in the media. Right now, I am positive that Tressel is networking with all of his contacts and filtering through their suggestions. Penguinpower nailed it. Nobody that worked here under Tressel previously really stands out.
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The question is, is Tressel also working the OC/DC positions as well!!!
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Tired of people saying "Oh, well maybe if you recruit the Mahoning Valley more...."
People don't realize the talent level in this community has dropped off greatly in the past couple years.
You'll get the few D1 studs like LJ Scott and George Hill who go to the Big10, but other than that....
The talent just isn't as fruitful as it once was.
That's hitting the nail on the head! 8)
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@FAUOWLACCESS: Rumors have FAU OC Brian Wright on the short list for the Youngstown St job, Wright says no contact with YSU - yet. http://t.co/mPw5Wgm3Ui
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@FAUOWLACCESS: Rumors have FAU OC Brian Wright on the short list for the Youngstown St job, Wright says no contact with YSU - yet. http://t.co/mPw5Wgm3Ui
Not sure I like Wright for the job... Feel like we need a more defensive minded HC.
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Was Wright still here in the year when two scholarship quarterbacks quit DURING the season? If so, should that not raise a red flag?
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The deep talent pool that once dominated this valley is now a swallow puddle. It's not getting better either. If someone wants to save football at YSU, they had better look at recruiting trends in the MVFC and search out the best assistants in this league.
Start with calls to NDSU personnel and go from there.
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Here is the home schedule for our new coach:
@DanaBalash21: YSU 2015 home FB schedule: 9/12 Robert Morris, 9/19 St.Francis, 10/10 Ill. St., 10/16 SDSU, 11/7 Missouri St. 11/14 NDSU
I wish we had NDSU when it were warm to play in front of a bigger crowd. Nonetheless, a bit more attractive, but much tougher at home.
Also, some more from FAU fans:
http://www.fauowlsnest.com/forum/topicview/misc/fau-football/fau-oc-brian-wright-to.htm?post_id=338725&keep_session=46127087
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Ohio State fans being a bit too naive imo. I just do not see the upside of taking a massive pay cut to come be a head coach here. If Fickell is serious about being a head coach, I'm not so sure YSU is the best avenue to do so.
Read this: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2014/11/44733/fickell-to-ysu
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If Fickell goes to be a head coach I could see Buffalo before YSU
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Sounds like they want Wright gone.... No thanks.
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I'll take Fickell as long as he brings Braxton Miller with him ;)
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The deep talent pool that once dominated this valley is now a swallow puddle. It's not getting better either. If someone wants to save football at YSU, they had better look at recruiting trends in the MVFC and search out the best assistants in this league.
Start with calls to NDSU personnel and go from there.
BINGO! Here is someone who gets it. I am not saying we have to hire from inside the conference, but we must take into account the style of ball played here.
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What about Mark Mangino? Tress ties, rebuilt a program, local and can recruit the state of ytown
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And he makes $500k . Swing and a miss. Strike one
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Pally do some research he made 350k. He wants to be a HC so we are in the ballpark. He would be coming home. So before u go negative verify your bullsh**!
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Nah, don't see Mangino coming back down to this level. He can get a job somewhere else.
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Add in his retirement, benefits, etc. and he is closer to my figure than yours. Pay is only part of a compensation package. He isn't coming
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Then Pally who do You want? If u were Strollo give me your list of candidates?
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What about Dayton's head coach Rick Chamberlin?
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Fickell is a serious candidate...
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still waiting for Pallys list. Or we dont want to do that for fear we would be on record for it.
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What about Dayton's head coach Rick Chamberlin?
Nice mention here 4. It is hard to tell how the parochial guys will turn out in public schools. Everyone really likes Chamberlin, but he has not as yet had the success of his predecessors. I understand he is a very good recruiter and being non-scholarship that speak volumes for the man's ability. Anybody that can recruit with limited or no scholarship is skilled in my book.
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What about Dayton's head coach Rick Chamberlin?
Too old and not enough success at Dayton.
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Wright would be o.k. With me
BTW,ysu go, I am usually on the record about most things discussed here. Evidence -- many do not like my predictions or comments , but I am always open about it. That's not like many here who are glorified cheerleaders with no original thoughts except to be homers. And far be it to tell Strollo how to be AD. He is still in on the job training with multiple mistakes in personnel and handling contracts.
First, you need to review WHO applies as this isn't that great a job. Candidate must demonstrate strong recruiting abilities and contacts. Head coach preferred but coordinator experience is a minimum requirement showing very good results. Experience at previous coaching stops and the results will play a strong part. Expect him to explain his o and d outlooks and preference as today's game is wide open and innovative. Has he kept up with the changing times. I don't care about charities or do good work. I am hiring a FB coach and want a successful one, not a priest or social worker. However must have strong PR skills as the Valley expects him to kiss their arse. Oh, and job pays no more than $250K.
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There will be no D-III coaches considered as they do not have the recruiting background needed for D-I recruiting.
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I know Joe Moorhead, head coach of Fordham, has been mentioned. I really like this man and his credentials, but this will be no easy hire.
After just his 2nd year at Fordham, there were reports swirling that he was a contender for the UConn head coaching job. He stated he would remain committed and Fordham rewarded him with an extension thru 2021!
Interesting read on the Fordham boards: http://fordhamfans.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,7441.0.html
Being Fordham is a private school, the details of the extension were not released. Thus, it is hard to say what sort of salary he is receiving.
We shall see if he is truly a candidate for this job over the next week or two. Fordham plays in the FCS playoffs Saturday vs. Sacred Heart and one would think they will be heavily favored in that game. If they win, their days are numbered as they will have to take on #1 New Hampshire in round 2.
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Coach/President Tressel was hired at YSU in 1985. That was 30 years ago. Coach Tressel had many years of experience in 1a/FBS football. Hopefully, YSU athletic administrators and the Board are not considering coaches from the FCS or levels below. Even the former coach was from South Carolina. YSU needs a experienced FBS coach to take the program to FBS/1a.
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Mark Snyder is Available.
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I think Mark Snyder would be very successful at YSU.................
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No thanks to Snyder. Guy sucked at Marshall and could never get A&M to even have a solid defense to keep them in games in the SEC.
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I would like to see Mark Mangino back...but then again, I hoped that we would be in the playoffs and avoid this whole situation.
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Mark Snyder was a guy in the right place when dantonio left for the Cincinnati gig and turned the job into the marshall gig.
He is an ok coach but he isnt the recruiter needed to win at YSU
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Well Bo Pelini is available but I highly doubt he'd come coach at YSU. He'll get a bunch of DC opportunities.
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I'll take Bo tomorrow but no way he wants to step down to FCS level. Especially working for a man who used to compete against.
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Rumors going around that Craig Bohl took Wyoming job to prove himself in FBS level and make the eventual move to Nebraska.... Interesting.
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@FakeUrban: Hey @JimTressel5 - I have the perfect candidate for your Youngstown State head coaching gig. http://t.co/wNVfKKQA4d
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Article says Fickell may be next YSU FB HC........in 2008.
http://stilespoints.blogspot.com/2008/10/random-thoughts.html
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Re: Pelini
Nebraska is banking on him finding a good paying job to help offset the $7.5 million he is owed by the Huskers. What better way to get back at Nebraska than coming here and getting paid $250k a year, forcing Nebraska to pay him substantially all of that amount.
Back to reality, this will never happen. Hope we hear some credible names this week.
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the only Pelini we have a shot at is Carl
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the only Pelini we have a shot at is Carl
Mr. Cocaine.
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the only Pelini we have a shot at is Carl
Mr. Cocaine.
Dr Rockzo
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Leopoldo built the program from ground up. The WSCAA is considered 2nd best behind the Ohio Athltic Conference in D-3. That should be Leipold,lol. No longer young and does not have the type of recruiting experience needed for this level. Successful coach but you wonder how lacking he is for this level.School located not far from Chicago, Milwaukee and othe metro areas providing parochial big H. S. Programs to recruit for a D-3 program.
Wisconsin-Whitewater head coach Lance Leipold will be the next head coach at Buffalo, FootballScoop has learned.
Leipold has served as a graduate assistant at Wisconsin and an assistant at Nebraska, but made his name racking up a historic run of success over the past eight years at Whitewater, where he is 106-6 with five Division III national championships. The Warhawks have posted four 15-0 seasons under Leipold, including one in 2013, and are currently in the midst of a 29-game winning streak. He also posted a 46-game winning streak from 2009-12.
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Not sure a D3 resume will translate well at a FBS program.
I would think tomorrow the scoop sites should start reporting some names we are targeting.
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This will be a living example of why D-III coaches are rarely hired into D-I HC jobs. Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. And the X's and O's get a little tougher to do. Watch Buffalo over the next few years.
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I felt that a jump from d3 to 1-aa was a stretch, now he goes to the "big boys" well at least the mac. Time will tell but I will be surprised if it works out.
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Article says Fickell may be next YSU FB HC........in 2008.
http://stilespoints.blogspot.com/2008/10/random-thoughts.html
If we can go faster than the speed of light for awhile and get back to 2008 I say give Fickell a try but for 2015 I say no thanks.Don't really know any good suggestions for a new coach but I definitely think Wright is Wrong and if they hire him there will only be 999 in the stands next year.
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Fickell was an unmitigated disaster as head coach and it doing a terrible job as D-coordinator. D was Wolford's downfall, what possible interest could anyone have in Luke?
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Fickell was an unmitigated disaster as head coach and it doing a terrible job as D-coordinator. D was Wolford's downfall, what possible interest could anyone have in Luke?
To be fair, Fickell got thrown into the fire as HC due to the Tress disaster...
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CHAMPAIGN, Ill. (AP) -- After a season of speculation about whether he would lose his job, Illinois coach Tim Beckman will be back for 2015, athletic director Mike Thomas said Sunday.
Too bad. This is one high-profile coach that I thought we had a real shot at. Reasonably local, probably has a no-compete preventing him from taking a MAC school.
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The best choice, in my opinion is DJ Durkin. Long shot, yes but that would be my #1 choice. Once Florida hires a new HC, he will be in need of some new work..... Just saying.
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Durkin is rumored to replace fickell as the D Cordinator at tOSU if fickell takes a head coaching job
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The Head Coaching job is an obvious one....
The resident expert Paladin :D Hell he knows more than the average AD and he has a pure eye for talent especially with QB's. 8) Not to mention he can make future predictions that no other can match fb
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We should hear more on the search tonight from footballscoop.
@JoeScalzo1: YSU pretty tight-lipped on coaching search but one name I'm hearing is Mike Sullivan. Coached with Tressel in 97-98: http://t.co/71qAqtg8zH
@FootballScoop: Yep. A few things going on…will get to this later today RT @Drew_VanJura: @FootballScoop hearing anything in the Youngstown State job?
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He's available.
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The update from Football Scoop is below...
As expected, there has been quite a bit of interest from coaches in the head coaching position at Youngstown State. As more than a few guys have said to me, “That’s not a stepping stone job for a guy like me, that’s where I want to go, win and stay.”
I’ll be brief; because this one truly has another week or so to play out and things should become more clear as Ron Strollo, Jim Tressel and crew narrow the field.
To be clear, I don’t believe this to be an exhaustive list; but this is what I’ve heard through a number of sources, culled down to what I believe is real and truly has a shot. There certainly could be others and if those come to our attention we’ll update things on The Scoop.
So, a certain level of interviews have already begun and are ongoing; but I have heard that further, on campus / in person interviews are expected to occur next week. With that said, here is a list of guys that we’ve heard the YSU administration was interested in… (no particular order)
Don Treadwell
Brian Wright
Dave Warner
Mark Snyder
Vince Marrow
Trent Boykin
John Peterson
Rick Shepas
With the compensation package where it is, I don’t think guys like Luke Fickell are truly involved. I was asked tonight about Mike Sullivan’s involvement as well. Might be; but last I had heard he was looking for an NFL opportunity so truly don’t know. This isn't the one for Mark Mangino.
I'd take Wolford back over most of these names. Let's hope someone better is out there.
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Don't want anybody on that list. No thanks....
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All of the coaches on that list are better than our current coach!!!
Just Saying
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Not impressed with this list. I would probably go after Boykin because he is young and directly contributed to winning here as a player.
I don't know. Wish they would have a someone picked behind the scenes and had it halfway agreed to.....feels like we don't have a list that will be an improvement over what we had.
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Not impressed with this list. I would probably go after Boykin because he is young and directly contributed to winning here as a player.
I don't know. Wish they would have a someone picked behind the scenes and had it halfway agreed to.....feels like we don't have a list that will be an improvement over what we had.
Not surprised with some on the list but I think one stands out for me:
"Dave Warner enters his second season as the co-offensive coordinator and his eighth overall at Michigan State. Warner, who also coaches the running backs, was promoted to co-offensive coordinator on March 4, 2013. He previously coached the quarterbacks for six seasons."
I would love me some smashmouth football at Stambaugh again!
Also this part of the piece from FootballScoop is very interesting:
As more than a few guys have said to me, “That’s not a stepping stone job for a guy like me, that’s where I want to go, win and stay.”
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It is funny to me that:
- Coach Wolf gets on the hot seat after continued progress season after season...pressure from fans and administration.
- He continually improves the team (yes, I understand the lack of playoffs...but my eyes see improvement we were losing games on the last play in year 3. Did he win to quickly and thus 7-5 in year 5 was a bad thing?
- Less fans in the stands (they don't like the coach and its been cold outside of September)
- No playoffs and the staff gets the ax.
Now we sit here and ponder a new head coach (and while I have not read one post in the qualifications for a new head coach yet...because I didn't want to jinx our season) it appears now that:
- Our list does not have a qualified candidate to match. Overqualified, yes. Lower level experience, check. Qualified...no. Now, we aren't the search committee, so I hope they (Strollo and Tressel) are finding something that is aligning better than this forum.
- The qualifications that seem to be main stream directly align with the guy that was just fired...(young, energetic, FBS level experience).
We are losing valuable time recruiting...I can't recall how long the gap was between John H and Wolf. I know we want a great product but...
- Are coaches being fired to quickly?
- Is the definition of under-performance to strict (would 5 wins in coach Wolf's year 3, 6 wins year 4, and 7 wins year 5 have led to a different outcome???)?
- Should YSU have had a better plan of action (i.e. having a few names salivating for the job that were steps up from the current staff)? So far the answer to all these seems to be a resounding "NO".
However, do I trust the JT will help find us a great coach...yes! Will the next coach be the diamond in the rough that he was? We can only hope.
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It's funny to think if one or more players make just one play in multiple game's this year and pick up that one win we are in the playoffs and not even having this discussion. I've looked at the list and I'm not impressed. I was split on wolford 50/50..I feel for 250 k he was a quality coach and great recruiter on this level. Good luck to any coach entering this program and getting that elusive 8th or 9th win to take Y.S.U. to the promise land for 250 k a year because it's not happening any time soon..word to the wise your going to have to bring out the brinks truck to take this program where it wants to go I.M.H.O.!! Lee Owens from Ashland U should be considered. He can recruit Northeast ohio better then anyone and was a former assistant at O.S.U. and as head coach took Akron and Ashland from the basement up..the only downfall is his age..58
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"It is funny to me that:
- Coach Wolf gets on the hot seat after continued progress season after season...pressure from fans and administration.
- He continually improves the team (yes, I understand the lack of playoffs...but my eyes see improvement we were losing games on the last play in year 3. Did he win to quickly and thus 7-5 in year 5 was a bad thing?
- Less fans in the stands (they don't like the coach and its been cold outside of September)
- No playoffs and the staff gets the ax."
Z, what I don't find funny or progress is the fact that his teams went on losing streaks in each of the last 3 seasons that cost him the playoffs. If that's progress, YSU should do away with its football program.
What I don't find funny or progress is the fact that his failure to develop players is the most glaring weakness of his legacy. Yes, they weren't losing on the last play. They just failed to step up when the program NEEDED a single win. Multiple times, in multiple years and in multiple games.
What I don't find funny or progress is the fact that less people in the stands had more to do with his lack of winning a big game than who HE is. Inevitably each year fans knew there would be month where YSU would go 0-fer. Regardless of how people feel about Eric Wolford's personality, if he won that 1 or 2 games that he needed to each year, this wouldn't be a discussion. He would still be the head coach.
For the one-millionth time, YSU under Eric Wolford did not progress, nor did it improve as a whole. When you make the same mistakes every year, lose 3 straight games every year, fail to adjust during games, etc., you get removed. That is the nature of the beast.
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FootballScoop Staff @FootballScoop · 16m 16 minutes ago
"Heard two additional very good coaches who I believe are involved w YSU too. Will update once confirmed/appropriate."
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Clearly this is blog hearsay, but I am not sure where some of you are coming from about these choices ...they are excellent. I mean Wolf was a run game coordinator at South Carolina. That is a fancy way of saying line and RB coach. Heck his OC and DC were more qualified than he was when he arrived in Youngstown ...YSU gambled and it did not go as well as we had hoped.
I will also remind certain people on this board how adamant everyone was that Strollo keep a "tight leash" on Wolf. Strollo did EXACTLY what you asked.
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Footballscoop just seems to be compiling a long list of coaches who had previous relations with Tressel. I don't see any "inside" information here. A few of these are really odd. For example, Treadwell was fired during the season at Miami; he performed even worse than 0505's favorite coach. Boykin, if information in internet postings is accurate, had a terrible record at his brief head coaching stint at a very low level program. Really, only two men know the state of the coaching search at this moment. Neither are talking publicly, just as it should be.
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Joe Scalzo with an update...
As @FootballScoop reported, Mike Sullivan is probably not realistic for YSU. But I'm hearing Mike Tressel is very much in discussion.
Joe Scalzo (@JoeScalzo1)
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I just don't see how Mike Tressel would be a good fit. That makes Jim and YSU as a whole look bad.....
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It's funny to think if one or more players make just one play in multiple game's this year and pick up that one win we are in the playoffs and not even having this discussion. I've looked at the list and I'm not impressed. I was split on wolford 50/50..I feel for 250 k he was a quality coach and great recruiter on this level. Good luck to any coach entering this program and getting that elusive 8th or 9th win to take Y.S.U. to the promise land for 250 k a year...
I agree with this part of your analysis.
"It is funny to me that:
- Coach Wolf gets on the hot seat after continued progress season after season...pressure from fans and administration.
- He continually improves the team (yes, I understand the lack of playoffs...but my eyes see improvement we were losing games on the last play in year 3. Did he win to quickly and thus 7-5 in year 5 was a bad thing?
- Less fans in the stands (they don't like the coach and its been cold outside of September)
- No playoffs and the staff gets the ax."
Z, what I don't find funny or progress is the fact that his teams went on losing streaks in each of the last 3 seasons that cost him the playoffs. If that's progress, YSU should do away with its football program.
What I don't find funny or progress is the fact that his failure to develop players is the most glaring weakness of his legacy. Yes, they weren't losing on the last play. They just failed to step up when the program NEEDED a single win. Multiple times, in multiple years and in multiple games.
What I don't find funny or progress is the fact that less people in the stands had more to do with his lack of winning a big game than who HE is. Inevitably each year fans knew there would be month where YSU would go 0-fer. Regardless of how people feel about Eric Wolford's personality, if he won that 1 or 2 games that he needed to each year, this wouldn't be a discussion. He would still be the head coach.
For the one-millionth time, YSU under Eric Wolford did not progress, nor did it improve as a whole. When you make the same mistakes every year, lose 3 straight games every year, fail to adjust during games, etc., you get removed. That is the nature of the beast.
I understand that we were very streaky. This year we ended the season with the top three teams in the Massey index. It was a very tough road. Questions arise..and yes we should have won even one of those games to prove that we were a quality team. Do you expect that change to occur overnight? In one off-season? Two? I take the later opinion of gradual change in that area. When a coach notices the streaky tendency...yes he needs to adjust his style of play and mentoring...but also his recruiting tactics on the type of player that he wants. I think this years freshman and sophomore crop could change our (I hate to keep using the word but) "streaky" tendencies.
Separately without regard to his time he and progressing or regressing the university...it is awkward to me that Wolf fits the exact bill of what we (this forum) are looking for as a coach not. Truely, should that theory not have allowed him some additional time? If you did not like his personality...and the loss at Missouri State to end year 3 and miss they playoffs then get rid of him then. If you were happy with the progress at that point, and based upon the last two years...I see reason to keep him for at least two more. Again...this point of view is from what i have read here and it seems to me that Wolf's resume fits the mold of what most are looking for.
I wish our two man search committee the best of luck in finding a great replacement.
Z
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Scalzo with some updates:
Joe Scalzo @JoeScalzo1 · 16m 16 minutes ago
I know YSU likes Brian Wright but there's a little bit of a question of whether he has the personality to be a head coach. He's a good OC.
Joe Scalzo @JoeScalzo1 · 6m 6 minutes ago
Couple other YSU possibilities: Purdue DB coach Taver Johnson (coached with Tress at OSU) and OSU RB coach Stan Drayton.
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@joescalzo1: Couple other YSU possibilities: Purdue DB coach Taver Johnson (coached with Tress at OSU) and OSU RB coach Stan Drayton.
I would not be surprised if a B1G assistant gets this job. Also, I do not see Treadwell getting this position.
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Doesn't appear to be merit to any of the names. It looks like stabbing in the dark. The speculation is quickly turning into a joke.
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Well, football scoop reported that Strollo has been doing interviews. Hopefully a decision is made by next week.
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I respect FootballScoop and what they do. I also trust their judgment on the candidates. He seems to believe we have a very good cast of potential head coaches on here.
I think some of you need to realize Fickell and some other high level assistants were never a reasonable proposition with the salary level YSU is currently at.
I can assure you Strollo, and to an extent Tressel, are weighing all options, reaching out to their colleagues at other schools, and gathering that input to make the top choice.
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@joescalzo1: Bottom line with YSU: Nothing seems imminent. Still some secret candidates out there. Don't see them hiring anyone from D2/D3 ranks.
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Mike Tressel, is that a joke? While it would be a very Youngstown-ish decision, they gotta be smarter than that right? If that does happen, I see the choke chain on the entire administration of YSU athletic and otherwise, very very short and thick.
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What about David Dean of D2's Valdosta State? 5 playoff appearances and 2 NCs in 8 years.
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Mike Tressel, is that a joke? While it would be a very Youngstown-ish decision, they gotta be smarter than that right? If that does happen, I see the choke chain on the entire administration of YSU athletic and otherwise, very very short and thick.
I am curious of FootballScoop's other 2 names.
My view on Mike Tressel, if he is a serious candidate for this job, the fact his uncle is President shouldn't remove him from consideration. With that being said, it will certainly look very Youngstown-esque. However, again, if he has the qualities of a head coach, I would not mind him interviewing. However, I do not want him solely based on the simple fact his last name is Tressel.
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What about David Dean of D2's Valdosta State? 5 playoff appearances and 2 NCs in 8 years.
I don't see anybody from D3 or D3 getting the job to be honest.
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On the matter of salary, from discussions on the national board about the Montana vacancy, it appears that Montana only pays about 164k while neighboring Eastern Washington shells out about 152k. Leads one to think that YSU is near the top of the FCS salary pyramid. Any coach searching for an opportunity on the FCS level would be foolish to ignore our "package" (high FCS salary, facilities, tradition, chance to work for Tressel.)
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I thought maybe Mark Pelini who played at Cardinal Mooney would come back to this area. But, my cousin said he was paid three million to coach at Nebraska University. She also said most of the assistant coaches he had were paid around $250,000 yeah dollars, each. Hmmmmm I guess maybe the guy from Mount Union would be a good coach. I wonder how much he would want to coach at YSU?
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On the matter of salary, from discussions on the national board about the Montana vacancy, it appears that Montana only pays about 164k while neighboring Eastern Washington shells out about 152k. Leads one to think that YSU is near the top of the FCS salary pyramid. Any coach searching for an opportunity on the FCS level would be foolish to ignore our "package" (high FCS salary, facilities, tradition, chance to work for Tressel.)
I did some searching as well. ISU(r) coach is at $268K, SIU is $221K and WIU is $207K.
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As long as a coach is named soon and wins games with the talent we have returning, it should not be a problem who the coach is.
With that being said, whoever the coach is he had better make sure not to do what Wolf did and get rid of 80% of the former regime's players. That would be a bad look for that coach IMHO.
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As long as a coach is named soon and wins games with the talent we have returning, it should not be a problem who the coach is.
With that being said, whoever the coach is he had better make sure not to do what Wolf did and get rid of 80% of the former regime's players. That would be a bad look for that coach IMHO.
This is really a good post and I couldn't agree more. We need to keep our current staff and players intact..if the record is not broke don't try to fix it. This is a young team with tons of talent that is just beginning to learn how to win and make the critical plays when needed. The transition for the players to a head coach is hard enough let alone staff changes and in and out transfers..unity will be key here..and the next head coach needs to be on the same page with our current staff..We need our next head coach to be a great game manager and keep the players under control and the rest will take care of itself..Bottom line we need discipline installed in this program..out of the 5 losses how many could've been preventive from stupid mistakes that was not youth related? Well I can think of a few
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As long as a coach is named soon and wins games with the talent we have returning, it should not be a problem who the coach is.
With that being said, whoever the coach is he had better make sure not to do what Wolf did and get rid of 80% of the former regime's players. That would be a bad look for that coach IMHO.
This is really a good post and I couldn't agree more. We need to keep our current staff and players intact..if the record is not broke don't try to fix it. This is a young team with tons of talent that is just beginning to learn how to win and make the critical plays when needed. The transition for the players to a head coach is hard enough let alone staff changes and in and out transfers..unity will be key here..and the next head coach needs to be on the same page with our current staff..We need our next head coach to be a great game manager and keep the players under control and the rest will take care of itself..Bottom line we need discipline installed in this program..out of the 5 losses how many could've been preventive from stupid mistakes that was not youth related? Well I can think of a few
The above is Highly Doubtful. It's a world where the coach now believes the scheme and their cleverness is paramount to the actual talent and capability of the athletes they recruit, so they come up with these new cookie cutter offenses to dumb down the game, to make it easier to "scheme". Unless they plan on unearthing Knute Rockne, Hank Stram or re-animating Mike Ditka, that will never happen.
Its not about actual coaching anymore, its about out-smarting instead of out-playing, out-hitting or out husseling the other team. Its about recruiting to fit your scheme, rather than your scheme fitting the best players at your disposal. Since the scheme is the most important thing the new HC "has" to clean house, to make sure everyone is loyal to their way of doing things, and will all agree that his idea is the smartest in the room. But don't worry, the old staff will land on their feet. Football is the worlds greatest recycler.
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Observer believe me I know exactly what your saying. It's a matter if J.T. and company want to remain competitive or struggle for a few years it's that simple..this is not the N.F.L. or a top 5 B.C.S. program where you can shuffle coaches and players in and out and not have much of a drop-off..we shall see
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Football scoop is thinking this is the group.
Don Treadwell
Brian Wright
Dave Warner
Mark Snyder
Vince Marrow
Trent Boykin
Rick Shepas
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Football scoop is thinking this is the group.
Don Treadwell
Brian Wright
Dave Warner
Mark Snyder
Vince Marrow
Trent Boykin
Rick Shepas
This was posted already on page 6.
Nonetheless, you can wipe Marrow off the list it appears:
@TheWildcatLair: Report: Vince Marrow says he is not interested in Youngstown State job http://t.co/w0jNTIJRYk
I'm not too sure Boykin is a serious contender either. There are a few additional names that are in the running as well.
Also, when researching Narduzzi's salary, I noticed Dave Warner got a nice raise which puts him about $100k ahead of what he'd make here:
http://archive.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20140225/GW01/302250046/MSU-nearly-doubles-pay-Dantonio-Narduzzi
Warner went from $270,000 to $379,167 a year.
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If Jim Bollman becomes our head coach............ :'(
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My goodness, DoubleE, where did you get that name from? These rumors are getting way, way, way out of hand.
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@VindySports: Most of the candidates for the YSU football job have a connection to Jim Tressel. @JoeScalzo1 updates the search.
http://t.co/yA1ADxYqd9
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Football scoop is thinking this is the group.
Don Treadwell
Brian Wright
Dave Warner
Mark Snyder
Vince Marrow
Trent Boykin
Rick Shepas
Some sportswriters thrive on the sharing of speculation as fact. Let's not make much of these things unless we hear something more concrete.
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Dave Warner is the only one on the list who would be an upgrade from Coach Wolford. Somewhat disappointing that we can't attract someone who is not connected to Tressel. Snyder just fired, and losing record as head coach at Marshall; Treadwell a disaster as head coach at Miami of Ohio, why would we want to hire someone who failed elsewhere as a head coach?
Amazing that this job can't attract better candidates. WHen we hired Wolford he was an offensive line coach, can't we get at least a coordinator?
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Dave Warner is the only one on the list who would be an upgrade from Coach Wolford. Somewhat disappointing that we can't attract someone who is not connected to Tressel. Snyder just fired, and losing record as head coach at Marshall; Treadwell a disaster as head coach at Miami of Ohio, why would we want to hire someone who failed elsewhere as a head coach?
Amazing that this job can't attract better candidates. WHen we hired Wolford he was an offensive line coach, can't we get at least a coordinator?
To be fair, Mark Stoops agreed to be the coach last time until Florida State offered him the D-Coordinator job last minute, so Wolf was our backup choice...
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Scalzo said Shepas, Boykin and Wright have already been interviewed... Could those 3 be at the top?
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Idk what to think about Shepas. He had success at Massillon, Poland, and currently at Waynesburg... But does he have enough to do it at this high of a level??? Plus I believe his wife is the head women's lacrosse coach at Wayneburg. That might affect thing.
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Scalzo said Shepas, Boykin and Wright have already been interviewed... Could those 3 be at the top?
I like them all. But, can Mr. Scalzo find out if the university contacted Mark Pelini? He was fired at Nebraska University. Yeah, does not make sense he did pretty well there, but the university wanted better. Tressel came back to YSU, to help YSU get back on its feet. Maybe Coach Pelini will want to back home and help the YSU football team get back on its feet. I think Coach Pelini and his son, both played at Cardinal Mooney. I think Coach Pelini was an assistant or something at big ole Ohio State.
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Scalzo said Shepas, Boykin and Wright have already been interviewed... Could those 3 be at the top?
I like them all. But, can Mr. Scalzo find out if the university contacted Mark Pelini? He was fired at Nebraska University. Yeah, does not make sense he did pretty well there, but the university wanted better. Tressel came back to YSU, to help YSU get back on its feet. Maybe Coach Pelini will want to back home and help the YSU football team get back on its feet. I think Coach Pelini and his son, both played at Cardinal Mooney. I think Coach Pelini was an assistant or something at big ole Ohio State.
Bo Pelini, and yes he was contacted and has no interest in YSU.
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COACH MARROW, COACH MARROW he is our man
COACH MARROW, COACH MARROW if he can't do it
NOBODY can.
I think he is my favorite. He is doing really fine at Kentucky
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I closed out the other thread as there are too many duplications.
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How could Vince Marrow be on that list? What qualifications could he possibly have ??
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How could Vince Marrow be on that list? What qualifications could he possibly have ??
Unfortunately for us he's somebody's friend so that probably qualifies him. I agree
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How could Vince Marrow be on that list? What qualifications could he possibly have ??
Unfortunately for us he's somebody's friend so that probably qualifies him. I agree
I visited a friend in Lexington and she took me to a Kentucky game. It was so much fun. Any how, there was one coach that was soooooooooo much enjoying his work. I asked my friend who he was? She said Coach Marrow. As it turns out Coach Marrow went to Cardinal Mooney, I think the Head Coach at Kentucky, is from Youngstown, Ohio. I do not know, if he too went to Cardinal Mooney. But, I think Coach Marrow was so passionate about his coaching job. I think he would be a great coach for YSU. Does anyone know if he was interviewed.
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How could Vince Marrow be on that list? What qualifications could he possibly have ??
Unfortunately for us he's somebody's friend so that probably qualifies him. I agree
Yes unqualified for even a coordinator's job at our level.
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How could Vince Marrow be on that list? What qualifications could he possibly have ??
Unfortunately for us he's somebody's friend so that probably qualifies him. I agree
Yes unqualified for even a coordinator's job at our level.
Oh no, not so fast. Coach Marrow has a perfect resume for YSU's football team. I just checked his portfolio. Coach Marrow, played football at Cardinal Mooney in Youngstown. He was a basketball player at YSU. He played football at Toledo where he transferred. He was drafted into professional football. He coached semi professional football teams. He coached High School Football. He coached football at Nebraska University .
He now coaches at Kentucky University and he also recruits at Kentucky University. He really should be interviewed. He seems to be a nice family man too.
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way under-qualified. The man had to take a HS job after leaving a short stint in the NFL-e ...BTW who gives a crap about Mooney? Mooney gets you a job in the Stoops-Pellini camp, but not in the Strollo-Tressel camp
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way under-qualified. The man had to take a HS job after leaving a short stint in the NFL-e ...BTW who gives a crap about Mooney? Mooney gets you a job in the Stoops-Pellini camp, but not in the Strollo-Tressel camp
Ohhhh you make me soooooooo mad. Coach Marrow is on the list that the Strollo-Tressel camp made up. I did not make the list, the Strollo-Tressel camp did. But, hmmmmmmmmmm on 2nd thought, did not the Strollo-Tressel camp select the coach b4 the guy you guys call the wolf. Also, hmmmmmmmmm did not half of the Strollo-Tressel camp pick the Wolf guy. Maybe, they need some help picking the next guy........maybe a committee?
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It has been tight lipped. The rumors in the news paper and football scoop are simply that.....rumors. the population must have shrunk to the point where Youngstown is a single traffic light and everyone suspects they know what everyone else is doing.
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We basically know nothing right now. Strollo doing a good job of keeping it under wraps....
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We basically know nothing right now. Strollo doing a good job of keeping it under wraps....
My intuition tells me.........I think it will be Vince Marrow. He has all the qualifications.........
I wonder if the university will do a background check on the selected person. Remember
Penn State and some guy that was molesting students or whatever?
My neighbor says the university has to make a decision pretty quick. He said something about recruiting needs to be started soon.
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We basically know nothing right now. Strollo doing a good job of keeping it under wraps....
My intuition tells me.........I think it will be Vince Marrow. He has all the qualifications.........
I wonder if the university will do a background check on the selected person. Remember
Penn State and some guy that was molesting students or whatever?
My neighbor says the university has to make a decision pretty quick. He said something about recruiting needs to be started soon.
Get over Marrow and find a new candidate to be a cheerleader for:
@KySportsRadio: Spoke with UK Asst Vince Marrow who told me that he is not interested in the Youngstown State job and is "committed to being right here"
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Coach Tressel wouldn't hire Marrow as a position coach at OSU!! I'm pretty sure he won't hire him as a Head Coach!!
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Well, ok I was checking out Trent Boykin. The information shows Coach Boykin was a head coach at Lane. I think it was for two years. The website says the team lost 17 games. Oh no that is not good!
So, back to Coach Marrow.
Well maybe YSU can help change his mind. Coach Marrow has so many great qualifications. My neighbor says a football team needs a good recruiter. I think Coach Marrow is in charge of recruiting at the Kentucky University football team.
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Get over Marrow and find a new candidate to be a cheerleader for:
@KySportsRadio: Spoke with UK Asst Vince Marrow who told me that he is not interested in the Youngstown State job and is "committed to being right here"
Well maybe YSU can help change his mind. Coach Marrow has so many great qualifications. My neighbor says a football team needs a good recruiter. I think Coach Marrow is in charge of recruiting at the Kentucky University football team.
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Stick to cheer leading.
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Being able to say "Hi I played and coached in the NFL" does not make a good head coach. Boykin is a MUCH better choice, although he is not ready for this level either ...in my mind. So you would rather have a nobody than coach Stoops talking to recruits? I thought you were a Mooney guy? If you want to make a change ...get a recruiting coordinator out of Florida, Cali, or the Northeast.
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People, do not feed the troll. This man (through his five screen names) is trying to turn this message board into a joke, and you are playing right into his hands.
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Quote from: IAA Fan on December 04, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
way under-qualified. The man had to take a HS job after leaving a short stint in the NFL-e ...BTW who gives a crap about Mooney? Mooney gets you a job in the Stoops-Pellini camp, but not in the Strollo-Tressel camp
Ok I also checked out Don Treadwell. He has a lot of great qualifications. HMMM that is until I read that he was head coach at Miami University in OHio. His record scaaaaaaaaaaared me. Guess what it was...........
8-21. That answers that. Now, someone on this website, says that Coach Marrow is not interested to be the YSU football coach.{Get over Marrow and find a new candidate to be a cheerleader for:
@KySportsRadio: Spoke with UK Asst Vince Marrow who told me that he is not interested in the Youngstown State job and is "committed to being right here"}
But you never know? Hopefully they do not pick another Ursuline guy. I think the guy you guys call Wolf was a Ursuline guy.
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Quote from: IAA Fan on December 04, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
way under-qualified. The man had to take a HS job after leaving a short stint in the NFL-e ...BTW who gives a crap about Mooney? Mooney gets you a job in the Stoops-Pellini camp, but not in the Strollo-Tressel camp
Hopefully they do not pick another Ursuline guy. I think the guy you guys call Wolf was a Ursuline guy.
I don't really think the Ursuline faithful are claiming Wolf anymore.
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People, do not feed the troll. This man (through his five screen names) is trying to turn this message board into a joke, and you are playing right into his hands.
What are the other four?
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Its likley going to be treadwell, which would be worse then making Montgomery a HC
Morrow could be like Wolford all over again, excellent recruiter, but questionable coach
all the other canidates would be worse then Wolford and Heacock combined.
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I was just wondering why, one of this blog posters wants coke back. I did not know that YSU had to sell only coke on campus. Why is that? Anyway I was checking the Jambar.The Jambar had a big story about it.
part of the story says:
"Beyond pouring rights, Pepsi now will act as a sponsor for YSU, contributing money both to Student Activities and the Athletics Department. This enables Pepsi products to be featured in advertisements and marketing for YSU, which includes the popular Gatorade sports drink for use in athletics promotion".
I myself do prefer Pepsi. It just tastes better. That is for my tastes anyway. Maybe the football team can get some of that money to help pay the new coach.
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People, do not feed the troll. This man (through his five screen names) is trying to turn this message board into a joke, and you are playing right into his hands.
What are the other four?
edpuskas, 1a4YSU, Kandras, FOOTBALLFOREVER ???
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People, do not feed the troll. This man (through his five screen names) is trying to turn this message board into a joke, and you are playing right into his hands.
What are the other four?
edpuskas, 1a4YSU, Kandras, FOOTBALLFOREVER ???
I'm neither an alter ego or a troll... I just have unorthodox views.
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WELL, I thought that maybe today would be the day. But, surely the selection committee will decide next week for sure. It is so DRAMATIC, isn't it. Maybe, they are still trying to change Coach Marrow's mind.
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People, do not feed the troll. This man (through his five screen names) is trying to turn this message board into a joke, and you are playing right into his hands.
What are the other four?
edpuskas, 1a4YSU, Kandras, FOOTBALLFOREVER ???
I can assure you I am my own man. No alter egos here.
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Ed seems legit.
The Vindicator, however, is not.
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Stop feeding this robot lol.
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Ed seems legit.
The Vindicator, however, is not.
That and 50 cents might get you a cup of coffee.
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The horoscopes are the most legit section in the Vindy.
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The horoscopes are the most legit section in the Vindy.
It must be true, because some anonymous internet guy said it. ;-)
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So now the man with many screen names ruined this thread,,,oh well by the way if it is Marrow. I WILL CANCEL MY PENGUIN CLUB MEMBERSHIP. That by far isn't the answer ...we already had a so called big time recruiter with no HC experience and wasn't even in charge of the O or D. I would of stuck with Wolford...Honestly I think having a local guy isn't that big a deal...we need a guy that can recruit our base and Florida and have some good coaching contacts for transfers. The Mooney Connection is far overated and shows how the good ol boy network is in coaching. Stoops brothers lost more big games than they won...Pellini is another Wolford couldn't win the big game and his bro has less than desirable when it comes to character. So lets find a different Tree...
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I was just talking to a friend, she said she heard it may be a while before YSU hires a coach. She said something about the university, has a Diversity Policy. Hmmmmmmmmm what is that?? If it is not one thing it is another.
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The problem with the Vindy, IMO, are the same problems most MSM outlets have....a lack of balance....which makes the Vindy is a propaganda tool for the Democratic-Socialist Party. When you lack balance, everything is suspect. The same goes for MSNBC or Fox News......if there's obvious bias than nothing can be trusted.
The Vindy serves a region that participates in widespread groupthink, so offering other perspectives is not demanded by the readership.
My suggestion would be to have guest columnists with a Libertarian perspective, as it would offer balance as well as expand the readership base.
The Vindy isn't all bad....the comics are somewhat credible.
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People, do not feed the troll. This man (through his five screen names) is trying to turn this message board into a joke, and you are playing right into his hands.
What are the other four?
edpuskas, 1a4YSU, Kandras, FOOTBALLFOREVER ???
It's FEVER and not FOREVER thank you. There are many Internet posters out there and I'm not one of them.
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stick to what this thread is about please
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jjysuwin, barstoolcleveland, 1a4ysu, GOPENNY = all the same immature idiot ..... My question is why are these user names not banned from posting afetr about 5-10 posts? I understand it is not possible to totally block this person or others due to non-static IP addresses and people having multiple devices from which they can post. But, it does not take a genius to figure out when a person is being an ASS just for the sake of being an ASS.
This is a major reason several people who were long time posters on this site have stopped posting, and why others of us take breaks from time to time. It only takes a few people to ruin a site like this for EVERYONE.
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^^^^^^^^Let's Talk nailed it. ^^^^^^^
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This stuff is out of hand and makes me not want to come read this board. I don't think YSU athletics are a joke yet this person continues to post. Some of us actually support and care about this program.
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Welcome to what my email inbox looked like for the better part of a year.
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Well said, Let's Talk. Well said indeed. :D
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Here is a name to consdier, thoough doubt it will happen.
Bobby Hauck.
Yes, he was a failure at UNLV, but so have most all coaches in the last 30 years.
Hauck was 80–17 in 7 years at Montana. 47–6 in Big Sky... Teams won or shared conference title every year. Montana played in FCS Title game 3 times, losing all 3. Also had a 4th season where they got to the semi-finals.
Guy has proven he can win at FCS level.
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The problem with the Vindy, IMO, are the same problems most MSM outlets have....a lack of balance....which makes the Vindy is a propaganda tool for the Democratic-Socialist Party. When you lack balance, everything is suspect. The same goes for MSNBC or Fox News......if there's obvious bias than nothing can be trusted.
The Vindy serves a region that participates in widespread groupthink, so offering other perspectives is not demanded by the readership.
My suggestion would be to have guest columnists with a Libertarian perspective, as it would offer balance as well as expand the readership base.
The Vindy isn't all bad....the comics are somewhat credible.
No D or R cards are played in sports. Why politicize everything? Can't the sports pages (and the sports interwebs) be free from political tumult?
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@21WFMJSports YSU Athletic Director Ron Strollo tells me "there's a chance" a new football coach could be named by the end of the week.
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I have a feeling they will go to our past for our future.
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No D or R cards are played in sports. Why politicize everything? Can't the sports pages (and the sports interwebs) be free from political tumult?
Could not agree more.
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Can we please just pick somebody who has proven they can be a head coach?
No more learning on the job by coordinators, line coaches, reserve long snapper coaches, etc.
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This from Football Scoop. Looks like Bo Pelini thing is legit. Interesting.....
http://footballscoop.com/news/update-youngstown-state-bo-pelini/
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The bad thing about getting Bo or any higher profile coach is the one and done thing. "IF" we'd get Bo or someone equal, I'd say they'll bolt for another job then YSU will be searching for another HC next year... ??? This might be the darw back on the selection.. the terms in the contract for how long they'll stay :-\
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Who Cares if its 1 or 2 years and done ?
It brings in high profile recruits potentially to play for him and could help fix the program and get it going in the right direction
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Who Cares if its 1 or 2 years and done ?
It brings in high profile recruits potentially to play for him and could help fix the program and get it going in the right direction
If he brings in good OC and DC with him, one of these guys could be the next HC when he leaves. He might even bring the fans back to the game. We need a coach with HC experience.
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This just happened at Western Kentucky where they had Bobby Petrino for 1 year and when he left his offensive coordinator (and former QB) Jeff Brohm became the new head coach
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67-27 record as a head coach, good for a 71% winning percentage. He won at least 9 games in every season at Nebraska.
If this is legitimate, it is becoming more and more clear that it is, then this makes a ton of sense.
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Plus, he would be a Mooney pipeline haha. None of those kids are leaving this area if he's head coach.
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Who Cares if its 1 or 2 years and done ?
It brings in high profile recruits potentially to play for him and could help fix the program and get it going in the right direction
I really don't care.. Hopefully this hire is better than the last.
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Can we make a feux pelini account if he becomes head coach and maybe he'll come out with a cat. That has to be one of the funniest twitter accounts.
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I believe the proper account would be titled..."YO Pelini"
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Can we make a feux pelini account if he becomes head coach and maybe he'll come out with a cat. That has to be one of the funniest twitter accounts.
Yes!
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I doubt that he will come here. This is another pipe dream.
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If I understand it correctly, the University of Nebraska will pay him something like $3M/year minus whatever he earns from another program. So from a financial perspective, the U of N will be paying the lions share of the salary of Pellini if he were to come here, and there really is no financial advantage of most other schools over YSU. Facilities, recruiting budget, career prestige.....that's where the drop off is.
Maybe he'd rather be back in Ytown for a few years (I think his wife is also from Ytown) and then go back to the FBS after his kids graduate from Mooney?
It actually makes sense.
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If I understand it correctly, the University of Nebraska will pay him something like $3M/year minus whatever he earns from another program. So from a financial perspective, the U of N will be paying the lions share of the salary of Pellini if he were to come here, and there really is no financial advantage of most other schools over YSU. Facilities, recruiting budget, career prestige.....that's where the drop off is.
Maybe he'd rather be back in Ytown for a few years (I think his wife is also from Ytown) and then go back to the FBS after his kids graduate from Mooney?
It actually makes sense.
Spot on. If he and his family want to come back home... Well, come on aboard!
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This really could work. The terms of the buyout detailed here:
http://www.ketv.com/news/nebraska-could-owe-bo-pelini-765-million/29990402
He gets $150K/month until 2019 from Nebraska, minus the salary paid by his new employer.
Backload his contract. Pay him $1/year for the next four years. In 2019, when the Nebraska payout is completed, pay him $ 5x Wolf's salary plus accrued interest, which would be ~$1.25M plus interest.
By 2020, he will likely desire a move back to the FBS, if he hasn't left already.
Another option is apply the unpaid YSU salary toward the recruiting budget and assistants salaries, and he leaves after 2018.
If a decision is to be announced this week, and he was on campus this week, I would say that this is the likely outcome at this point.
I must say that I am FIRED UP.
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A decision is coming by the end of this week.
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Glad to hear this. I wanted no part of Wright:
"@JoeScalzo1: @therealBerdman thank God. This isn't hard. Brian Wright...no brainer... | I've been told he's out of the picture."
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Glad to hear this. I wanted no part of Wright:
"@JoeScalzo1: @therealBerdman thank God. This isn't hard. Brian Wright...no brainer... | I've been told he's out of the picture."
That's a relief to me
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Dana Balash @DanaBalash21 · 6m 6 minutes ago
@21WFMJSports Another name I'm hearing a lot today in regards to YSU job is Eastern Kentucky Coach Dean Hood.
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Before the Pelini rumors, we would probably have been satisfied with Hood's credentials. Defensive coordinator in the ACC. Head coaching experience at the FCS level, granted at a program in a non-power conference. Got to believe that Eastern Kentucky does not pay nearly 250K, so there is the financial incentive and the competitive incentive of the MVFC. Let's not automatically dump on this guy just because of unfounded Pelini rumors.
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I went over today and read a little bit about Coach Hood at Maroon-Nation.com aka the home of the EKU Colonels Fans and to sum it up, Coach Hood is the Coach Wolford of EKU. A coach who can't seem to take the next step with his program. Their fan base would be happy to see him go.
I'd encourage everyone to go over and check out their forum and the thread titled "Will there be a Coaching Change?" might be a good place to start.
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EKU beat Miami of Ohio this year but lost to Indiana State at home in the playoffs. From website: The Eastern Kentucky offense changed gears under (offensive coordinator) Damron three years ago from a spread scheme to a power rushing attack. They played at Robert Morris this year and at non-scholarship Moorhead last year. They played Florida the week before the Indiana State playoff game. They played two 1A schools this year and will do the same next year.
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Heard it is assistant coaching salaries that are holding up the Pelini thing. Tress has talked to him twice. Stay tuned.
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tic tic tic tic tic
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Pretty amazing attention YSU football has been getting across the nation all based on rumors of Coach Pelini! Well, whoever your new coach is, everyone will have heard of him and that's an opportunity. Recruits will know his name when he calls. Best of luck to you in selecting a good one which, in the end, benefits the entire MVFC.
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Assuming that Pelini is interested, it is only natural that he would want to bring here from Nebraska as many staff members as possible. But there is no way that we could pay them at big time assistant coach market value. That is why I think that this courtship will fail. Then again, if he were to take a job in the MAC, Sunbelt, etc., there is no way that those schools could pay his assistants big time market value either. Perhaps Pelini will come to the realization that, unless another big time program wants him, he must rebuild a staff with young (and relatively cheap) assistants.
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Undoubtedly I want Bo Pelini for all of the obvious reasons but if we don't hire him, I'll support whoever our choice is just like the true fans will. I understand right now for majority of fans it'll be a big disappointment if we don't get Pelini. Beat Pittsburgh...again!
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Saw the USF coach on campus just before the rumor of Pelini started.....
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Saw the USF coach on campus just before the rumor of Pelini started.....
I'm pretty sure he's still the head coach at USF? Interesting.....
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Saw the USF coach on campus just before the rumor of Pelini started.....
He could be helping Wolf clean out his office.
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I to have a hard time believing he is leaving so soon after taking the USF job. Maybe it was FAU? You could have seen Brian Wright.
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I to have a hard time believing he is leaving so soon after taking the USF job. Maybe it was FAU? You could have seen Brian Wright.
Well, they are different skin color so pretty easy to figure out lol.
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LOL good point. I might also point out that we were in the middle of negotiating a multi-game deal to play USF. I remember Strollo and Wolf talking about how important it was with the Big-10 dropping FCS games and the number of Florida players that we have on the team.
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LOL good point. I might also point out that we were in the middle of negotiating a multi-game deal to play USF. I remember Strollo and Wolf talking about how important it was with the Big-10 dropping FCS games and the number of Florida players that we have on the team.
They are looking for an FCS opponent in 2019, but I doubt the coach would come up for that. Maybe he is interviewing Wolf and his staff.
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Everything is so quiet.... C'mon Strollo!!
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Personally, I would sit back and wait. This attention can only benefit us, with additional qualified candidates. The worst thing that we can do is start pushing others away because they will not be Bo Pelini. Our new coach (which you all should know by now is not Pelini [at least not Bo with Carl unlikely]) deserves our support at 110%.
As most of you regulars know. I was far from a coach Wolf fan. I felt his predecessor deserved a chance to show us his spread O ...then it was compounded with mass player losses. However, I still made every home game over the past 5-seasons ...along with a few away contests. I enjoyed a win over Pitt that I will never forget. So we need to do the same for whomever is next.
Hood is a quality guy, that knows this is a solid step-up for him. He wants this job; as do the other candidates. He comes well-recommended and has had good success at EKU. Wright is a quality guy that really knows how the game is played at YSU ...both on and off the field. Another great pick-up, both of which would probably allow us to keep some of our quality current staff.
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I just don't get how anyone can say Hood is a quality candidate. Sorry but his record proves he's an average coach in a below average division. Sorry even the EKU fans want him gone.
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I just don't get how anyone can say Hood is a quality candidate. Sorry but his record proves he's an average coach in a below average division. Sorry even the EKU fans want him gone.
Yep. Wouldn't like that move at all to be honest.
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Chad Krispinsky @ChadK426 · 1m 1 minute ago
Over the last hour, I'm detecting a growing sense of optimism in several connected circles that Bo Pelini could indeed be coming to YSU
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Hood is quality and so is Wright. Both have a record to prove it. Just for fun, you armchair coaches have to lay it on the line now --- what are YOUR outline for a successful coach to hire here ? Not your opinion, but games won, league titles, playoffs made, etc ? Let see how delusional you really are.
And how stupid ! 8)
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Hood is quality and so is Wright. Both have a record to prove it. Just for fun, you armchair coaches have to lay it on the line now --- what are YOUR outline for a successful coach to hire here ? Not your opinion, but games won, league titles, playoffs made, etc ? Let see how delusional you really are.
And how stupid ! 8)
I don't think anyone has exact figures...and if they do they are digging way to deep. I certainly do not hope that there is any drop off in coaching or player personnel this year. One way would have been to not have been so trigger happy on Wolf as it appears even those who were not his biggest fans may be hard pressed to find someone better at similar cost. I look forward to supporting the 2015 TEAM (players and staff) no matter who shows up as coach a high profile Pelini or a lowly Paladin.
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What makes Hood quality? Please explain. He had a worse record than Wolf percentage wise at EKU, made the playoffs 3 times out of a weaker FCS conference, and got bounced in the 1st round every single time. He was a DC at Wake Forest, where they won the ACC 1 year. Give him credit there because Wake Forest is a dormant program in the ACC. That doesn't make him a quality head coach.
Wright has been an assistant his whole career besides the 1 year at FAU where he was interim and play 4 horrible teams and went 4-0. He was here at YSU before.... Ok?
This is bigger than people realize. This hire needs to get the fan base excited. I don't know who else is a candidate. Could be somebody we haven't thought of yet. The fan base and excitement is dwindling here in Youngstown. Just the RUMOR of Bo Pelini coming here got people fired up and excited. Who's to say he can't stay here for 2 to 3 years, get this program back into the playoffs and a contender, and then find himself a nice NFL job or another big job in FBS. The program would be in better hands than it ever has been.
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Pelini would get the casual fan interested in YSU again. Not sure if that's as big a concern as corporate sponsorship but I would imagine dwindling Penguin Club memberships and ticket sales have to be a little alarming to administration.
Wright and Hood, no one would care. Just like they don't care about playing anyone from our conference. They aren't local, so they don't matter.
Bo is local, and like it or not, that matters to a lot of people.
His record is good, but he didn't utilize the advantages of being at Nebraska. That gave him resources and support exceeding many of his opponents, and his record therefore is disappointing, that's why he is gone.
Kinda sounds like the guy we just let go doesn't it :o
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This is bigger than people realize. This hire needs to get the fan base excited. I don't know who else is a candidate. Could be somebody we haven't thought of yet. The fan base and excitement is dwindling here in Youngstown. Just the RUMOR of Bo Pelini coming here got people fired up and excited. Who's to say he can't stay here for 2 to 3 years, get this program back into the playoffs and a contender, and then find himself a nice NFL job or another big job in FBS. The program would be in better hands than it ever has been.
I can't say that I would agree with those statements. It would be easier for me to accept that, IF he brought along a "coach in waiting" as well. 2 or 3 years, albeit nice for recruiting and short term playoff goals (maybe??), would hurt future recruiting/playoffs IMO. To replace an ENTIRE staff in 2 or 3 years would be ludicrous. Now, don't get me wrong...it would be exciting to see him walking the sidelines at YSU. BUT, a short stay doesn't do this program any good.
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This is bigger than people realize. This hire needs to get the fan base excited. I don't know who else is a candidate. Could be somebody we haven't thought of yet. The fan base and excitement is dwindling here in Youngstown. Just the RUMOR of Bo Pelini coming here got people fired up and excited. Who's to say he can't stay here for 2 to 3 years, get this program back into the playoffs and a contender, and then find himself a nice NFL job or another big job in FBS. The program would be in better hands than it ever has been.
I can't say that I would agree with those statements. It would be easier for me to accept that, IF he brought along a "coach in waiting" as well. 2 or 3 years, albeit nice for recruiting and short term playoff goals (maybe??), would hurt future recruiting/playoffs IMO. To replace an ENTIRE staff in 2 or 3 years would be ludicrous. Now, don't get me wrong...it would be exciting to see him walking the sidelines at YSU. BUT, a short stay doesn't do this program any good.
Well, yes I should have put that in there. He needs to bring along for the future who will be the next head coach with him on his staff. I know what your saying.
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Scalzo said in his latest blog post that "YSU is also talking to some Division II and III coaches". If that is true and he's interested, I would rather see David Dean of Valdosta State get the job than Hood from EKU.
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Happy Penguin said it best, program needs a real shot in the arm. A news conference with Pelini would draw hundreds if open to the public, Hood a handful of media only.
Rather new to this board, whats up with Paladin, why such an arrogant hater. His comments that Hood might get some Meyer cast offs from Ohio State since they are buddies is laughable. How many cast offs did we get from Ohio State with Heacock here and Tressel at OSU?
Also his commemts about being impressed with Hood's credentials at Wake Forest, how is that more impressive than Pelini's credentials? He was D coordinator on LSU team that won the national title.
If not Bo Pelini, will take awhile and return to playoffs to re-engage fan base.
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As usual, everyone side steps the issue and can't name THEIR standards for a coach. Opinions only. This is laughable. "Valley boy", come on down. The Youngstown mentality is alive and well.
If, and I say If Pelini comes here, its going to be a fun gig. He couldn't get it done at a place who had everything while acting like a butthead and now he is to be the "shining" star at YSU ? ;D
Y'all are in for some surprises. And disappointments.
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As usual, everyone side steps the issue and can't name THEIR standards for a coach. Opinions only. This is laughable. "Valley boy", come on down. The Youngstown mentality is alive and well.
If, and I say If Pelini comes here, its going to be a fun gig. He couldn't get it done at a place who had everything while acting like a butthead and now he is to be the "shining" star at YSU ? ;D
Y'all are in for some surprises. And disappointments.
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/XFP3/if-you-could-just-stop-talking/image.jpg)
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The Valley mentality may be alive but at least its not a union protected position.... You either deliver or your gone.... Youngstown isnt the first to fall from grace or have an expectation in a sports program.... When the fans stop caring and its evident by the activity on this board they havent reached that point, then theres reason for concern..... Remember, defending yourself is fulll time job....
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I'd argue that fans stop caring when you have few butts in seats and YSU is there. They just tried a "Valley boy" and fired him . Now they want to hire another who was just fired from a failed job at a place that had everything going for it and you expect different results here ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm telling you, its going to be a fun gig. 8)
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per coachingsearch.com: Wisconsin: According to 247Sports, former Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini is in the mix at Wisconsin.
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per coachingsearch.com: Wisconsin: According to 247Sports, former Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini is in the mix at Wisconsin.
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I'm not worried about Bo & the Wisconsin job (I don't see Barry Alvarez hiring another Big Ten school's castaway) but more about what else could open because of the Wisconsin job. Paul Chryst, Pitt's head coach and former Wisconsin player and OC under Alvarez and Bret Beilema, is widely speculated to be a top choice for Wisconsin. If he leaves, Pitt (a school Bo interviewed at once before) sits wide open.
My interpretation of everything that happened today has been - YSU is waiting to hear the official word from Bo.
The question is how long do they wait.
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As usual, everyone side steps the issue and can't name THEIR standards for a coach. Opinions only. This is laughable. "Valley boy", come on down. The Youngstown mentality is alive and well.
If, and I say If Pelini comes here, its going to be a fun gig. He couldn't get it done at a place who had everything while acting like a butthead and now he is to be the "shining" star at YSU ? ;D
Y'all are in for some surprises. And disappointments.
Are you a YSU fan?
Honest question. That's all I want to know. Yes or no with your explanation.
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Answer -- have been for 30+ years ( the last 20 buying Penguin Club seats) buying season tickets and not getting a "freebie" from some business guy. But, this past season I didn't buy tickets and watched online or TV. You personally have seen me at BB games for years ( and I stopped going to those last year). Being critical of a team doesn't make me less of a fan than the cheerleaders , who are often mindless folks with no clue.
And now back to the peanut gallery where no one can quantify their standards for a HC and apply it. YOU are the AD. Who do you hire and WHY ?
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I think we hire a D minded coach with experience as a DC. ... If you hire somebody the pay will be equal or better than what they are getting. look at MAC or Tressels Coaching tree or one of his friends as well as some of our competitors in conference. Probably need the state of Youngstown connection as well. And that means not Pellini...
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North Carolina just fired their Defensive Coordinator.
And, if Wisconsin were to hire Chryst, then PITT might have interest in Pelini, which would enable him to be close to Ytown if that is something of importance to him. Heck, he could live in say Columbiana, have a 45-60 minute drive to Pittsburgh and also be able to send his kids to Mooney.
This is why I think in the end, Pelinin will not be at YSU. Just too much still going on with the "power 5" programs in terms of Head Coaches and DC positions, not too mention DC jobs that will come open in the NFL.
And, hiring Pelini does NOT mean kids from Ytown/Warren/Sharon/New Castle that now go to FBS schools will suddenly decide they want to play at an FCS school. It also does not mean beating NDSU will be any easier, or that YSU will win the "money" games, as YSU will still be playing with 22 less scholarship players than the FBS school, and with a roster built for FCS, not FBS.
Terry Bowden had as much success or more than Pelini at Auburn, and was successful at Samford. But, so far, only losing seasons at Akron. And, that is at a school in a lower tier FBS Conference, that has excellent facilities, likely the best in the MAC.
And, Solich has not exactly set the world on fire at OU. They are a middle of the pack team in the MAC. Better than before Solich, but they are light years behind NIU in the MAC and behind Marshall, a school which is not all that far from OU.
Pelini would be an improvement over Wolford, but far from a guarantee he would turn YSU into a top 2 program in the MVFC, be able to beat NDSU regularly, UNI regularly, SDSU regularly, and make deep runs into the playoffs.
And just so people know, I have known Bo since he was in 5th grade. I like him. Always have. I know the Mark Pelini that people who only see him on tv or sidelines of a football game never get to meet. He is very intelligent. A god guy. Also hates to lose. Hated to lose as a player.
Now, as a HC, he hates to lose as much for his players as for himself. Has always had a temper when playing sports. Seems to be a Mooney thing :-\. For those old enough, seems to be a St. Dom's/Mooney thing :-X, only Bo went to St. Luke's, so St. Dom's connection does not apply here. We went to different high schools. Guys at my high school hated Bo. One, because in the 2 years he was starting QB at Mooney, my school lost both games. Second, because Bo was brash, confident and other players on HIS team fed of that. He is one of those people who if he is your teammate or coach, you love him, and if he is your opponent, you HATE him. Again, he is very intelligent, and knows how to psych out opponents. From a physical standpoint, he had no business starting at DB for OSU. But, throw in work ethic, knowledge of the game, instincts, competitiveness and all of the "intangibles", and it is a different story.
Another reason guys that played football at my high school hated Bo, is because he would tell the defense what play was coming, and then the defense would not stop the play. Then again, with Bucci, Mooney only had like 3-4 plays. But, at times, I think he went as far as to tell the defense which guy was getting the ball. That is how much confidence he had in his teammates. To me, that is not arrogant or cocky. That is being confident. And, if you know what is coming and can;t stop it, that is YOUR fault.
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Pelini couldn't get it done at Nebraska.... Good thing this isn't the Big 10 Pally, phew!!
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Paul Chryst get the Wisconsin job...
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Paul Chryst get the Wisconsin job...
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is reporting Chryst to Wisconsin. This is the worst case scenario for YSU regarding Bo. Now a power 5 conference school within an hour of Youngstown is looking for a head coach. Their first call should be to Bo Pelini.
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Interesting development with YSU: I'm told another candidate has popped on radar. (Not sure who.) He probably won't interview until Sunday.
https://twitter.com/JoeScalzo1/status/543235188961329152
Any bets on who the new mystery candidate who is pushing this through the weekend is?
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Fickell will go to Pitt if not offered the WI job.
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Fickell will go to Pitt if not offered the WI job.
Fickell to Pitt is a possibility. Fickell to Wisconsin is probably wishful thinking by some Buckeye fans.
Alverez stated he is looking for a Wisconsin person which is why it makes Pelini to Wisconsin questionable in my mind.
Please Mr. Strolo - don't blow this one!
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I don't think Bo is coming. Why would we be interviewing a mystery candidate on Sunday if Bo was actually going to sign? This is taking way too long. Bo to Pittsburgh seems more logical. Fickle has earned some credibility with Myer over the last few games.
I don't think we should expect a big name. If Bo was coming this deal would have been done. Looks like they are still searching.
By the way......with the list of candidates that I saw so far, ido rather have Wolford back. Hell I'd even like to see Heacock with the recruiting staff Wolford has assembled.
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I'm starting to believe that Bo isn't coming as well. If he was, this would have been done already. He's waiting to see how everything shakes out with the big boys. And of course, YSU will wait on him. Which I'm really beginning to hate at this point. But I guess that's part of the game.
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I don't think Bo is coming. Why would we be interviewing a mystery candidate on Sunday if Bo was actually going to sign? This is taking way too long. Bo to Pittsburgh seems more logical. Fickle has earned some credibility with Myer over the last few games.
I don't think we should expect a big name. If Bo was coming this deal would have been done. Looks like they are still searching.
By the way......with the list of candidates that I saw so far, ido rather have Wolford back. Hell I'd even like to see Heacock wi themail recruiting staff Wolford has assembled.
I agree that it is highly unlikely that Bo is coming. The typical search process YSU is that the search committee reviews all the applicants and invites up to 3 top choices to campus for interview. After the interviews, the committee could either reject all applicants or recommend selected number of applicants. In th men time, the application process remains on going until the position has been filled.
If Bo is the chosen, the longer the process takes, the less chance that he would accept. Right now, this is not good.
If no other applicants were recommended, YSU might continue to search for other candidates. This might be the reason why another candidate was to be interviewed this weekend.
Bo might either still be weighting other options or have informed YSU no. In this case, the new candidate might be an alternative to Bo (if he said no) or as part of plan B (in case Bo says no).
IMO, I do not believe that the candidates whom they have interviewed thus far (except for Bo) are acceptable.
Therefore, I think either we have already been turned down by Bo or we are still waiting for him to make up his mind. This does not look good at this time.
As for the EKU HC, he is not any better than Wolf. If YSU was in OVC, Wolf would have gone to playoff and he would still be HC today. I hope he is not th chosen one.
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I'm starting to believe that Bo isn't coming as well. If he was, this would have been done already. He's waiting to see how everything shakes out with the big boys. And of course, YSU will wait on him. Which I'm really beginning to hate at this point. But I guess that's part of the game.
Not sure YSU's policies, but Alverez said that the position has to be posted for 14 days before he can appoint a new coach. If this is standard, many universities are in this situation and that keeps schools like YSU on the ropes and searching for a DII or III coach should all else fail. Most AD's keep a short list of coaches, but it seems ours does not. Unfortunately, YSU is not a dream job anymore which seems to give the AD an excuse to remain mediocre. I hope we don't spend the next few years wanting Wolford back like many want Heacock. I don't dislike either coach, but I never saw them getting YSU back to prominence.
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The mystery candidate is.....Fordham HC Joe Moorhead.
@DanaBalash21
Per @JoeScalzo1 on YSU "mystery"
candidate, hearing via couple sources Fordham HC Joe Moorhead. He signed thru 2022 w/Fordham
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Scarlet, I can understand that and it's all well and good. Except, here's what ESPN is reporting about Wisconsin.
"Former Wisconsin assistant and current Pittsburgh coach Paul Chryst is poised to become the Badgers' new head coach, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.
An announcement could come as early as Friday."
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If you take a coach like Pelini, some feel he is damaged goods. I think someone from a reputable DI program would bring in good assistants and we wouldn't have years of carrousel of coaching staffs looking for the right fit. I don't see Bo coming to YSU simply because it doesn't seem like a logical next step for him at this point in his career.
I could see an assistant such as Fickell coming here, but that has its learning curves which I don't think YSU can wait on.
So if you take an assistant from a school preparing for a bowl game - when should you expect them to announce they are coming?
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I don't see Moorhead leaving his alma mater Fordham after he just signed a big extension there.
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Scarlet, I can understand that and it's all well and good. Except, here's what ESPN is reporting about Wisconsin.
"Former Wisconsin assistant and current Pittsburgh coach Paul Chryst is poised to become the Badgers' new head coach, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.
An announcement could come as early as Friday."
Soup - not to argue, but is this the same ESPN that reported Bo to Youngstown?
I think Chryst will go to Wisconsin because he fits the criteria that Alverez has mentioned. Also, didn't Anderson go to the Rose Bowl when Alverez stepped in as coach? The 14 day wait is sort of a song and dance routine to me.
If Wisconsin announces their new coach today, it should speed things up for YSU as the coaching chase should get narrowed down quickly.
I can't say I want Fickell, but I don't remember people accepting Tressel. My feelings are I don't think the YSU program can afford the few years to get back on track.
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Bo clearly doesn't want to be here. I get him shopping around for the best offer, but if he comes here now, it will be "he's the guy nobody else wanted." All this stuff about sending his kids to Mooney is clearly to play up to the locals--it's not high on his personal priority list. Furthermore, with the amount of money some FBS schools throw around, buying him out a YSU contract will be easy, so there's no guarantee that he'll be anything but a one-year caretaker.
Let's not repeat the mistake of the presidential search that gave us Randy Dunn and Gone. Let's find someone who can be enthusiastic about YSU. It might be harder to build the program in the short term that way, but in the long term, it will be so much better.
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned the HC at Coastal Carolina?
As for YSU making the playoffs had they been in OVC, not so sure. Given what went on at YSU with Wolford, they likely would not have been able to beat EIU, with the exception of this year. And, would also have lost to Jacksonville State and EKU. Then, throw in a loss to a bottom tier team, the same way YSU losy to WIU at home this year, SIU at home in 2012 and Mo State at home in 2011.
What you have is YSU in 3rd place, or T2nd place and losing tie-breaker due to losing head to head. And, OVC is a 2 bid league, maximum. Also, YSU may not have had as much talent as they had due to playing in a league that overall is of lower quality. YSU had the talent player wise each of the past 4 years to make the playoffs. But, they did not have the talent coaching wise, thus made little mistakes that caused them to lose to 1 team 3 of the 4 years that had no business beating YSU, and also losing to the quality teams in the MVFC.
This year, YSU won on the road at SDSU, and followed it up losing 3 in a row, after narrowly escaping South Dakota.... In 2013, it was 3 losses in a row to end the season... In 2012, 4 losses in a row in October... 2011, win in next to last game at NDSU, then home lose to last place Mo State at home to end the season. That is a pattern, and no reason to think it would have been different were YSU in the OVC.
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Mystery candidate was just tweeted:
Per @JoeScalzo1 on YSU "mystery"
candidate,hearing via couple sources Fordham HC Joe Moorhead. He signed thru 2022 w/Fordham
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I'm starting to believe that Bo isn't coming as well. If he was, this would have been done already. He's waiting to see how everything shakes out with the big boys. And of course, YSU will wait on him. Which I'm really beginning to hate at this point. But I guess that's part of the game.
Not sure YSU's policies, but Alverez said that the position has to be posted for 14 days before he can appoint a new coach. If this is standard, many universities are in this situation and that keeps schools like YSU on the ropes and searching for a DII or III coach should all else fail. Most AD's keep a short list of coaches, but it seems ours does not. Unfortunately, YSU is not a dream job anymore which seems to give the AD an excuse to remain mediocre. I hope we don't spend the next few years wanting Wolford back like many want Heacock. I don't dislike either coach, but I never saw them getting YSU back to prominence.
Not sure about the athletic search. I have served on many faculty search committees on the academic side of YSU. Typically, we waited at least 2 weeks before holding the committee meeting (could be longer if not enough applicants in the pool). However, committee members could log on to the HR website to review the resumes of the applicants at any time after the process has started.
If the committee could not recommend any applicants and with no new applicants, the committee would declare a "failed search". At that time, the committee could change the job position requirements and the process would start all over again.
I don't believe this is applicable to the HC search since they probably have a large pool of applicants. However, they do have a time limit. Therefore, somebody will get hired to be the next HC.
My question is, why would we interview an applicant with 8 years left on his contract? Was his contract terminated? If yes, do we really want him?
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Bo clearly doesn't want to be here. I get him shopping around for the best offer, but if he comes here now, it will be "he's the guy nobody else wanted." All this stuff about sending his kids to Mooney is clearly to play up to the locals--it's not high on his personal priority list. Furthermore, with the amount of money some FBS schools throw around, buying him out a YSU contract will be easy, so there's no guarantee that he'll be anything but a one-year caretaker.
Let's not repeat the mistake of the presidential search that gave us Randy Dunn and Gone. Let's find someone who can be enthusiastic about YSU. It might be harder to build the program in the short term that way, but in the long term, it will be so much better.
The only way I see a coach like Pelini being a "one year caretaker" is if he would take YSU deep into the playoffs his first year - which isn't that what we are wanting? You would expect that in order for that to happen, there would be a good cadre of assistant coaches so one of them could step in without sending the program into a tailspin. Now in reality....??
Randy Dunn took what he felt was the opportunity of a lifetime. He just left YSU in a horrible mess by doing so.
I agree with your last statement, but that is exactly what Wolford and Co. were trying to do - just never showed any great strides.
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The question is why would a big name coach come to a F.C.S. program and risk having a mediocre season and jeopardize their future at a B.C.S. program and millions of dollars? With the recent upgrades and history at Y.S.U. it would be a nice stepping stone for a up and coming coach or a current assistant who has a burning desire to get people back in the stands and take the program back to where it was under Tressel and 250 k a year would be fine with them. There are coaches out there like this!! I have faith Y.S.U. will find the right coach and I'm ready to stand and support their decision
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Scarlet, I can understand that and it's all well and good. Except, here's what ESPN is reporting about Wisconsin.
"Former Wisconsin assistant and current Pittsburgh coach Paul Chryst is poised to become the Badgers' new head coach, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.
An announcement could come as early as Friday."
Soup - not to argue, but is this the same ESPN that reported Bo to Youngstown?
I think Chryst will go to Wisconsin because he fits the criteria that Alverez has mentioned. Also, didn't Anderson go to the Rose Bowl when Alverez stepped in as coach? The 14 day wait is sort of a song and dance routine to me.
If Wisconsin announces their new coach today, it should speed things up for YSU as the coaching chase should get narrowed down quickly.
I can't say I want Fickell, but I don't remember people accepting Tressel. My feelings are I don't think the YSU program can afford the few years to get back on track.
Scarlet, I got what you were saying. I just don't believe there is any mandatory waiting period for a coach. We're all good!! :)
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Does anyone know if the HC at Coastal Carolina is interested or been contacted by YSU. He has done a great job building the program, and pay would not be an issue with Joe Moglia. Would seem to be just a question of him being interested in YSU and YSU being interested in Moglia.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/coastal-carolina-coach-brought-unique-portfolio-to-job/article_f8c1efb7-8ebb-588a-88db-ea689176d239.html
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/11/29/4638474/national-attention-continues-to.html
On another note, I agree with Soup City about there likely not being any kind of waiting time on hiring head football coach at a D1 University.
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Bo clearly doesn't want to be here. I get him shopping around for the best offer, but if he comes here now, it will be "he's the guy nobody else wanted." All this stuff about sending his kids to Mooney is clearly to play up to the locals--it's not high on his personal priority list. Furthermore, with the amount of money some FBS schools throw around, buying him out a YSU contract will be easy, so there's no guarantee that he'll be anything but a one-year caretaker.
Let's not repeat the mistake of the presidential search that gave us Randy Dunn and Gone. Let's find someone who can be enthusiastic about YSU. It might be harder to build the program in the short term that way, but in the long term, it will be so much better.
The only way I see a coach like Pelini being a "one year caretaker" is if he would take YSU deep into the playoffs his first year - which isn't that what we are wanting? You would expect that in order for that to happen, there would be a good cadre of assistant coaches so one of them could step in without sending the program into a tailspin. Now in reality....??
Randy Dunn took what he felt was the opportunity of a lifetime. He just left YSU in a horrible mess by doing so.
I agree with your last statement, but that is exactly what Wolford and Co. were trying to do - just never showed any great strides.
Randy Dunn saw his dream job and took it. It just didn't like how he did it. I believe he found out the BOT wanted to run the university instead of him. He probably did not want to be a figure head and decided to jump to SIU.
I had several one on one discussions with him on academics and athletics. I thought he had a good vision for the university and a strong support for YSU in D-1 athletic programs.
When I have spoken with Tressel, he intentionally stayed away from the athletic discussions. He was more interested in discussing the enrollment and retention issues. In one meeting, he told the students to come to the games...... It is free.
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We will get a no name. However, of all of the no names I would like to get Fordham's head coach.
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I heard from a grad-student at Iowa State and his rumor is that they are going to clean house with their football program. Yes it is just a rumor, but would Mark Mangino come back to YSU as his swan song?
I realize he was getting a much bigger paycheck as an assistant and YSU couldn't even come close.
My understanding is the YSU players really liked and respected him. Just a thought...or a wish.
"Please Mr. Stollo, don't screw this up!"
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We will get a no name. However, of all of the no names I would like to get Fordham's head coach.
Penguinpower -
Help me out on this one. If Fordham's head coach just signed an extension through 2022, how does that work if he comes to YSU?
Wasn't he the OC at Akron during some of their worst seasons?
I agree....all signs are pointing to a no name. Sounds like a reply from a Magic 8 ball.
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Does anyone know if the HC at Coastal Carolina is interested or been contacted by YSU. He has done a great job building the program, and pay would not be an issue with Joe Moglia. Would seem to be just a question of him being interested in YSU and YSU being interested in Moglia.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/coastal-carolina-coach-brought-unique-portfolio-to-job/article_f8c1efb7-8ebb-588a-88db-ea689176d239.html
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/11/29/4638474/national-attention-continues-to.html
On another note, I agree with Soup City about there likely not being any kind of waiting time on hiring head football coach at a D1 University.
I would like this hire. Took a nothing program and built it into a solid contender. Head coaching experience at our level. Good call.
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Does anyone know if the HC at Coastal Carolina is interested or been contacted by YSU. He has done a great job building the program, and pay would not be an issue with Joe Moglia. Would seem to be just a question of him being interested in YSU and YSU being interested in Moglia.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/coastal-carolina-coach-brought-unique-portfolio-to-job/article_f8c1efb7-8ebb-588a-88db-ea689176d239.html
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/11/29/4638474/national-attention-continues-to.html
On another note, I agree with Soup City about there likely not being any kind of waiting time on hiring head football coach at a D1 University.
I would like this hire. Took a nothing program and built it into a solid contender. Head coaching experience at our level. Good call.
As somewhat of a negative, It is only fair to point out that he took a non-scholarship program and added scholarships. Fordham now sits as the only scholarship program in the Patriot.
On a positive note, I would also point out that their program is very rich in sports history, so that would be a big plus in understanding YSU fans.
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Does anyone know if the HC at Coastal Carolina is interested or been contacted by YSU. He has done a great job building the program, and pay would not be an issue with Joe Moglia. Would seem to be just a question of him being interested in YSU and YSU being interested in Moglia.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/coastal-carolina-coach-brought-unique-portfolio-to-job/article_f8c1efb7-8ebb-588a-88db-ea689176d239.html
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/11/29/4638474/national-attention-continues-to.html
On another note, I agree with Soup City about there likely not being any kind of waiting time on hiring head football coach at a D1 University.
I would like this hire. Took a nothing program and built it into a solid contender. Head coaching experience at our level. Good call.
As somewhat of a negative, It is only fair to point out that he took a non-scholarship program and added scholarships. Fordham now sits as the only scholarship program in the Patriot.
On a positive note, I would also point out that their program is very rich in sports history, so that would be a big plus in understanding YSU fans.
Oh I was talking about the coach from Coastal not the Fordham coach
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Oh sorry I saw that ...I agree and like what he has done with the program.
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Joe Morehead, Joe Moglia....any thoughts to Joe Merlino? :o
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Does anyone know if the HC at Coastal Carolina is interested or been contacted by YSU. He has done a great job building the program, and pay would not be an issue with Joe Moglia. Would seem to be just a question of him being interested in YSU and YSU being interested in Moglia.
He's in his mid-sixties so he's probably not interested in taking a 5 year gig at a new school.
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Does anyone know if the HC at Coastal Carolina is interested or been contacted by YSU. He has done a great job building the program, and pay would not be an issue with Joe Moglia. Would seem to be just a question of him being interested in YSU and YSU being interested in Moglia.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/coastal-carolina-coach-brought-unique-portfolio-to-job/article_f8c1efb7-8ebb-588a-88db-ea689176d239.html
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/11/29/4638474/national-attention-continues-to.html
On another note, I agree with Soup City about there likely not being any kind of waiting time on hiring head football coach at a D1 University.
I would like this hire. Took a nothing program and built it into a solid contender. Head coaching experience at our level. Good call.
As somewhat of a negative, It is only fair to point out that he took a non-scholarship program and added scholarships. Fordham now sits as the only scholarship program in the Patriot.
On a positive note, I would also point out that their program is very rich in sports history, so that would be a big plus in understanding YSU fans.
Keep in mind coastal gets a lot of SEC transfers because of their location. Pickings are good there as it used to be for the mahonimg valley.
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Joe scalzo reporting Brian Wright has withdrawn his name for consideration for the job. That's one guy out.
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We will get a no name. However, of all of the no names I would like to get Fordham's head coach.
Penguinpower -
Help me out on this one. If Fordham's head coach just signed an extension through 2022, how does that work if he comes to YSU?
Wasn't he the OC at Akron during some of their worst seasons?
I agree....all signs are pointing to a no name. Sounds like a reply from a Magic 8 ball.
Not sure how it would work, but this guy wins the games he is supposed to win and that says a lot. Unlike what we have witnessed the last 5 years wondering which team will show up. Fordham has done well in a partial scholarship league. I am just saying if he is truly in the mix that he would be one I would prefer. He has head coaching experience too.
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Fordham Head Football Coach Joe Moorhead's Contract Extended yesterday
http://www.patriotleague.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/121114aaa.html
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Joe scalzo reporting Brian Wright has withdrawn his name for consideration for the job. That's one guy out.
YEH!!
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Pellini is more likely to be the next HC than Joe Moorhead fb
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Who hired Pelini at Nebraska? Steve Pederson who is the AD at Pitt was at Nebraska prior to them running him out of town. He returned to Pitt I believe a few years ago.... If there is a connection hopefully its a bad one..
According to ESPN, Chryst will be named Wisconsins Head Coach....
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FAU is reporting that Brian Wright has withdrawn his name from consideration for the YSU job.
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FAU is reporting that Brian Wright has withdrawn his name from consideration for the YSU job.
That's unfortunate. Wright had the second best resume behind Pelini.
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Yes Wright's withdrawal is a big loss. Too many people looking for flash and he was a good candidate.He had skills and inside program knowledge.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that it's all or nothing with Pelini. Unfortunately, you may see the other guy drop out as well. As each day goes by, any other candidate is going to realize that they are Plan B, C, D, etc.
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Wright was here and knew the program. When he left, he helped turn Montana St. around big time as their OC. Did a solid job at FAU. Good recruiter. He would have won here.
But, he's not a " Valley guy", ;D
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Chad Krispinsky (Sports Anchor at WYTV & Play by play for the YSU)
@ChadK426: If YSU misses out on Bo Pelini as football coach, another name to keep in mind: Oklahoma State Off. Coordinator/QB Coach Mike Yurcich.
Looks like it's another new name....getting the feeling YSU is conducting another search for candidates with regional ties (Western PA, Pittsburgh-area).
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The longer this plays out, the more nervous I get.
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Joe scalzo reporting Brian Wright has withdrawn his name for consideration for the job. That's one guy out.
YEH!!
DOUBLE YEH!!
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The longer this plays out, the more nervous I get.
Agreed
Please Mr. Strollo, don't screw this up!
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The longer this plays out, the more nervous I get.
Agreed
Please Mr. Strollo, don't screw this up!
If Bo isnt the coach by Tuesday we arnt getting him
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Afraid that Bo may be saving us as his ace in the hole, if nothing better comes along then he may come. That may be fine to a point but I do not think that we should wait forever. We cannot expect the other candidates to just sit and wait
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We are not getting him. Period.
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We are not getting him. Period.
You base that on what?
There is a pretty good chance it will happen based on the folks I've been communicating with the last few days. Furthermore, Hannon was on 1390 yesterday and said he believes Pelini is very well going to be the guy. Hannon knows more than most here.
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We are not getting him. Period.
You base that on what?
There is a pretty good chance it will happen based on the folks I've been communicating with the last few days. Furthermore, Hannon was on 1390 yesterday and said he believes Pelini is very well going to be the guy. Hannon knows more than most here.
Why would he come here? Because his kido could go to Cardinal Mooney? No other reason. This would be seen as a step back by outsiders. If this was going to happen it would have already right? Why is it taking so long? Do we really want someons that doesn't see us a his first or second choice? Let's be real here.
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Not that I believe these rules are followed but....
Maybe this might play into YSU's situation.
Wisconsin: Barry Alvarez has released the following statement: “We are continuing the process of finding our new head football coach. We have not offered the position to anyone. In accordance with University of Wisconsin hiring policies, the earliest we could make an offer to a candidate is Wednesday, Dec. 17. Any accepted offer would be contingent upon approval by the UW System Board of Regents.”
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We are not getting him. Period.
You base that on what?
There is a pretty good chance it will happen based on the folks I've been communicating with the last few days. Furthermore, Hannon was on 1390 yesterday and said he believes Pelini is very well going to be the guy. Hannon knows more than most here.
Why would he come here? Because his kido could go to Cardinal Mooney? No other reason. This would be seen as a step back by outsiders. If this was going to happen it would have already right? Why is it taking so long? Do we really want someons that doesn't see us a his first or second choice? Let's be real here.
The saying goes, "easier said than done."
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I have never considered the Pelini rumor to be anything except an unwanted distraction; an internet driven frenzy that can only damage the guy who becomes our coach. However, there is one person we should consider that might have a critical role in Pelini's ultimate decision: namely, his wife. I don't know anything about her except that she is a Youngstown native, so this is pure speculation but not entirely unreasonable. The family has attained multimillionaire status, so money might no longer be the only determinant. Perhaps she is disgusted with the criticism her husband endured in Nebraska and is fed up with big time football. Perhaps she has aged parents and feels the need to be close to Youngstown. If this happens, and again I very much doubt it, she might play a role in the decision that we will never understand.
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Wisconsin can offer the job to anyone at any time and announce said person as their new HC. The hiring will just not be official until the UW System Board of Regents meets on Dec 17th and approves the hire.
UNLV has announced Tony Sanchez as the next HC. The press conference was held yesterday, pending approval from the Nevada State Board of Regents, which is meeting on Dec 16th. At this point, it's a mere formality for Board of Regents to approve the hire. And, most likely, the same would be true at Wisconsin once Alvarez and UW-Madison Chancellor, Rebecca Blank have decided on the next HC for UW-Madison.
The official name for the school commonly called Wisconsin in athletics is University of Wisconsin-Madison. The BOR oversees EVERY school in the University of Wisconsin system, unlike at YSU where the hiring would be subject to final approval of the YSU Board of Trustees. Same is true at UNLV and UNR(University Nevada at Reno...commonly called "Nevada" in athletics to people outside the state), where the hire has to be approved by Nevada Board of Regents.
As for Pelini, I get the feeling YSU is his fall back plan, and for whatever reason, Strollo and Tressel seem to be willing to wait. Wisconsin or PITT is going to need an HC. Both schools will also need a DC. It is quite possible Oregon State will be looking for a new DC with a new HC. Not sure what the relationship is like between Pelini and Gary Andersen. I am pretty sure though that Andersen is NOT going to be taking the DC he had at Wisconsin with him to Oregon State after the 59-0 loss to Ohio State.
North Carolina has an opening for a DC.
There are going to be DC openings in the NFL. And, that may well include the 49'ers, as it is highly rumored Harbaugh is done after this year. Pelini got his start in coaching with the 49'ers. They are owned by the York Family.
Kentucky has an advertised opening for an Assistant Coach. No idea what position is open. This is an option due to the HC being Mark Stoops, a long time friend and former teammate.
North Texas has an opening for a DC
UNLV is going to need a DC
Tulsa will need a DC
Colorado State will need a DC
Michigan still needs an HC, let alone a DC
Kansas needs a DC
Houston needs a DC
Troy needs a DC
Florida may well still need a DC
So, there are several openings at the FBS level for DC's, and still a few openings for HC's, with one most likely being PITT. Then add in the NFL assistant jobs that will come open. No rush for Pelini, because he gets paid whether he coaches or not in 2015. And, the longer YSU waits, the more likely candidates interviewed early in the process are to withdraw their names from consideration. Waiting can also have a negative impact on recruiting. And, as myself and others have been saying, Bo is a solid coach. He has wealth of experience, he is from Youngstown, but NONE of that guarantees success at YSU. And, with Pelini as HC, success is going to mean winning MVFC Titles and deep playoff runs. Not simply making the playoffs.
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So if Pelini is all in. What's the hold up! because he isn't all in. No offense but if you thought Wolford was a bozo...Pelini would make him look like a Saint.
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So if Pelini is all in. What's the hold up! because he isn't all in. No offense but if you thought Wolford was a bozo...Pelini would make him look like a Saint.
Right on. If you get fired after 9 win seasons then you may have some hidden baggage right?
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Not sure what the relationship is like between Pelini and Gary Andersen. I am pretty sure though that Andersen is NOT going to be taking the DC he had at Wisconsin with him to Oregon State after the 59-0 loss to Ohio State.
I believe Wisconsin had the #2 D in the nation before playing Ohio State. I think Cardale took them by surprise and they didn't think Ohio State could stop their run game. After that, the wheels fell off.
Nashville TN radio reported this morning that Pelini was not headed to YSU...not sure what they know.
I still hear that Iowa State is going to shake up their coaching staff. Would Mangino come back and would he fit?
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Not sure what the relationship is like between Pelini and Gary Andersen. I am pretty sure though that Andersen is NOT going to be taking the DC he had at Wisconsin with him to Oregon State after the 59-0 loss to Ohio State.
I believe Wisconsin had the #2 D in the nation before playing Ohio State. I think Cardale took them by surprise and they didn't think Ohio State could stop their run game. After that, the wheels fell off.
Nashville TN radio reported this morning that Pelini was not headed to YSU...not sure what they know.
I still hear that Iowa State is going to shake up their coaching staff. Would Mangino come back and would he fit?
Why the hell would YSU want Mangino. Sorry but if I had kids I wouldn't want them playing for that clown. He maybe a good coach but he's not a good human being.
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The longer this supposed "search" goes on, the worse it gets from a PR standpoint. YSU might have gotten some positive energy at first from the Pelini rumors, but with each passing day that energy is lost.
Also, why are things so "hush-hush" as far as who has applied, and who is being interviewed? As a state school, doesn't YSU have an obligation to the public to make it known who has applied for the position, and who has been or will be interviewed?
I agree with those saying if Pelini TRULY wanted the job, he would have been hired by now. And, if the sticking point is Assistant coaches pay, YSU plays in FCS. The assistant coaches are NOT going to be paid that of assistants at FBS schools, especially not schools in the "power 5" conferences. If they are, for whatever reason, then the YSU faculty would right be justified in crying "foul", and going out on strike. Pelini has been in college coaching long enough to know what the ranges are for HC's, DC/OC, position coaches at EVERY LEVEL of college football and also within each conference.
Also, I checked on the YSU Athletics web site. November 22, 2009 is when Heacock announced he was resigning, and Dec 15th, 2009 is when Wolford was OFFICIALLY announced as the new HC.
The announcement Wolford would not return to YSU was made on Nov 25th, and today is Dec 13th. That search was also done under semi-secrecy, there were numerous rumors, YSU was trumpeted as having found "their man", and the rest as they say is history. :-\
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The longer the search goes on it also hurts the recruiting efforts of the 2015 class. Out of the 10 commits we have how many will stay or go? Alot of that depends witch assistant's are retained and if the new head coach wants to honor their verbals or bring players along with him or pick and chose what's left. The Juco dead line is this week I believe. I look for some high end Division 2 players to get offers at the last minute that normally wouldn't. The timing in this whole search is just unfortunate.
This should have been figured out before Wolford was fired. This clearly shows lack of planning. Having a list is not planning. They should have had this all but finalized with estimated probabilities for multiple scenarios. Instead we wait...we lose again with recruiting (didn't learn that lesson from when heacock was fired). Unbelievable
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Relax.
1. Since this Pelini crap came up, we need to wait or any candidate will feel like they are second-string.
2, Heacock told Strollo he would resign if he did not make the play-off in 2009. That became clear the moment he lost game #4 in October. Quite honestly, probably sooner then that, as Heacock knew the chances after the first couple of games. If you follow this site at all, you should have known that Wolf was at the last YSU home game ...in the press box while Heacock was taking the team through pregame warm-ups on the field. It was no secret. This time Strollo had high hopes we would make the post-season and would not be hiring anyone ...except possibly a DC.
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Why worry? The best indicator of future performance is past performance.
The individual who hired Hill, Martin, Slocum, Wolf, and extended Heacock's contract is in charge....so we're good..right?
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The longer the search goes on it also hurts the recruiting efforts of the 2015 class. Out of the 10 commits we have how many will stay or go? Alot of that depends witch assistant's are retained and if the new head coach wants to honor their verbals or bring players along with him or pick and chose what's left. The Juco dead line is this week I believe. I look for some high end Division 2 players to get offers at the last minute that normally wouldn't. The timing in this whole search is just unfortunate.
This should have been figured out before Wolford was fired. This clearly shows lack of planning. Having a list is not planning. They should have had this all but finalized with estimated probabilities for multiple scenarios. Instead we wait...we lose again with recruiting (didn't learn that lesson from when heacock was fired). Unbelievable
I fully agree. The odds of a win in Fargo were long.....anyone with foresight and vision would've started planning for the likely outcome.
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If Strollo screws this up, time for him to go!
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Why worry? The best indicator of future performance is past performance.
The individual who hired Hill, Martin, Slocum, Wolf, and extended Heacock's contract is in charge....so we're good..right?
SPOT ON!
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Why worry? The best indicator of future performance is past performance.
The individual who hired Hill, Martin, Slocum, Wolf, and extended Heacock's contract is in charge....so we're good..right?
SPOT ON!
I'm not ready to dump on Strollo yet. He originally said it could take a month or more (I don't have the exact quote), but the Pellini thing accelerated the time frame in everyone's mind and maybe his. Finding an FCS coach is quite a bit different than finding a BCS coach. Strollo's failing is not managing expectations for the search, not the fact that the search isn't finished yet.
No recruiting crisis for players yet. FCS recruiting falls heavily in the month of January. This is because the HS kids are sitting around waiting for the call from FBS schools, and when they realize it might not come by February, the talks with the FCS get serious. Nothing happening in this search changes that.
I would like to point out it took 30 days to hire John Barnes. If you want to know what's going on in advance, some of the best moles are in HR, because they have to work up the formal contract. There's probably a low level clerk over there who knows more about what is happening than any of us.
I do think that we don't wait for Pellini to make up his mind. I'm not buying this idea that sending his kids to Cardinal Mooney is a decisive factor for him. If he really is a candidate, he's playing us. The dirt on Pellini is a kind of hostility in his personality, and not every school is going want to deal with this. Think Mangino without the slap.
Which brings us back to Mangino. If he's rehabilitated, then it's a decent idea. However, usually teams with a horrible record like Iowa State clean house right away, like one or two days after the last game. If they are cleaning house at ISU, it doesn't seem to be a priority, and if they planning to, their AD is screwing it up big time through inaction. Let's put ISU housing cleaning on the list of unconfirmed rumors.
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Funny how everyone understands that you have to wait for the good recruits that "slip through the cracks" of the big-time programs. Yet, you do not think the same thing happens with coaches ...lol. Do you realize how much trouble the guys from EKU is because he interviewed with us? Coaches (even assistants) at quality bigger programs are getting their teams ready for bowl games & not worrying about interviewing.
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Scott Bilo @BiloFootball · Dec 11
After a ton of will he or won't he...Bo Pelini will be your new head football coach at #YoungstownState.
Scott Bilo @BiloFootball · Dec 11
YSU is a great FCS gig for Pelini to rebound at. Penguins will likely win and challenge North Dakota State very quickly in MVC football.
Scott Bilo @BiloFootball · Dec 11
Lots of credit to the #YoungstownState administration for going big in hiring of Pelini. That showed grit and a go for it attitude.
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Not sure about the credibility of the source but he seems pretty certain... Just like Football Scoop was.
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The guy is claiming his sources are valid. Never heard of him and only has 2k followers.
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The guy is claiming his sources are valid. Never heard of him and only has 2k followers.
I was just on his website. He insisted that Pelini has accepted the YSU offer. It is being reviewed by the board. I don't how good he is. He sounds like he is absolutely sure about this. Anyone knows anything about this guy?
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@WeAreYoungstown: You can add @BiloFootball to the online sites thinking Pelini ends up at YSU. Believe what you may folks...
(http://i.imgur.com/wlGcYZh.jpg?1)
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The guy is claiming his sources are valid. Never heard of him and only has 2k followers.
I was just on his website. He insisted that Pelini has accepted the YSU offer. It is being reviewed by the board. I don't how good he is. He sounds like he is absolutely sure about this. Anyone knows anything about this guy?
Never heard of him and he responded to me that he won't give up his sources. I don't believe he knows anymore than anyone else. He's a nobody and looks like he's trying to get attention.
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Kfor, good point.
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Watch scoop this evening... That is all.
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Here's one of the reasons I feel Stollo needs to get a coach in here and fast. First off if a player doesn't have a offer from a F.B.S. program by the fall prior to national signing day they are not getting one. From the fall all the way up untill national signing day Y.S.U. competes 24/7 with teams in the Colonial, Ivy, Mid Eastern, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Pioneer conferences along with Navy and Airforce for the best players available that the F.B.S. school's feel are not Quite good enough. This is why TIME is critical at this point. I realize players will transfer in and out regardless of who the new coach is. If we get a big name coach such as Bo I'm not as worried. But at the same time if Stollo has offered Bo and he's waiting to here back I simply don't think you can afford to wait. It's time to move forward in my opinion if a coach is unsure it's go time -you owe that to a program! ! This is just all so problematic at this point I just hope all the chemistry works out in the end. Sometimes things like these can make a program worse before it gets better. That's the chance you take with any coaching change tho
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Scalzo just tweeted Hood and Bo are the top 2 targets and a 3rd candidate is to be interviewed tomorrow for insurance purposes whatever that means 😨
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Watch scoop this evening... That is all.
Ok?.....
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Scalzo just tweeted Hood and Bo are the top 2 targets and a 3rd candidate is to be interviewed tomorrow for insurance purposes whatever that means 😨
Dean Hood: Head coaching record
Overall 49–33
Tournaments 0–2 (NCAA D-I playoffs)
Statistics: College Football Data Warehouse
Sounds like Stollo is selling the family cow for three magic beans
I hope I am wrong, but things aren't looking promising if Scalzo is correct
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Assuming HOOD is named the next Head Coach, I hope he has connections because looking through the EKU coaching staff im not sure they are ready for the MVFC.... Hopefully Sundays interview is someone from within the ranks of the MVFC.... I understand the Pelini love affair but if he isnt the man not sure they are looking in the right direction?
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Nothing on Football Scoop about the YSU job. Not anything new at all on the internet about the YSU job. Really do not see Pelini taking the job, unless YSU is willing to wait until January. He is going to get paid whether he coaches or not. He can be picky, very picky. As far as wanting his kids to go to Mooney, what was he going to do if not fired by Nebraska, quit at some point and move back to Ytown?
I understand he has stong ties to Mooney. Comes from a big family, and all his brothers and sisters went to Mooney. But, in the big picture, Mooney is just another Catholic High School. It's nothing special when looking at the entire United States.
And, as I have said multiple times, expectations for him at YSU would be very high. Win the MVFC...win multiple games in the playoffs...beat NDSU, SDSU, UNI.... win a National Title. Expectations will be high no matter who is hired, they will be even higher if the coach is Pelini. And, I'm not sure how realistic the expectations will be if Pelini is hired. Good coach, but not God. NDSU is not going to become a bad team. Nor will SDSU or UNI. Those are 3 solid PROGRAMS. And, when it comes to playing FBS schools, YSU will be doing it with FCS players, and the limited scholarships allowed in FCS.
To me, the only reason to take the YSU job if I'm Bo Pelini is as a last resort, if none of the better options pan out. Even then, maybe just take a year off and then start back to coaching refreshed and recharged in 2016. That option has worked for other coaches fired from big name college programs, and also for coaches fired from NFL teams.
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The guy you hire should have a better resume than the guy you fired.
Pelini obviously does.
Hood does not. Not even close.
Wolford has a higher win % than Hood over the most recent two years, and got it in the top FCS conference. Massey ranks the OVC seventh in the FCS.
I will support the YSU HC even if they pick Justin Bieber, but it is difficult to expect a guy like Hood to perform better in the SEC Of the FCS, than he performed in what is close to a 1AAA conference.
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Hiring Hood would be like winning a car and then finding out it is a used Pinto.
Hey he may be a great guy and maybe he could get us to the promised land but he sure would have a lot to prove.
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Seriously I have know clue why Hood would be one of Strollo's top choices. Hands down Wolford is a better coach and our assistant's are much better then the staff at E.K.U..If it's true Hood and Bo are head and shoulders above the rest of the candidates for Strollo I say hire Wolf back if it is going to be Hood- unbelievable !!
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FWIW, I was told we should have a coach by Tuesday at the latest, unless another curveball is thrown into this today. The Pelini situation is more complicated than a simple yes or no. Some folks I've talked to have said the past week can be described with the word "bizarre." If I hear anymore, I will let you know.
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The guy you hire should have a better resume than the guy you fired.
Pelini obviously does.
Hood does not. Not even close.
Wolford has a higher win % than Hood over the most recent two years, and got it in the top FCS conference. Massey ranks the OVC seventh in the FCS.
I will support the YSU HC even if they pick Justin Bieber, but it is difficult to expect a guy like Hood to perform better in the SEC Of the FCS, than he performed in what is close to a 1AAA conference.
If Wolf had his job in EKU, he probably would still be our HC today. If Hood could not win consistently at EKU, how do you expect him to coach us to the top of MVFC?
If we hire this guy, we will be back into the same situation in a few years, firing the HC and paying for the buy out.
However, I do want to give them the benefit of the doubt this time (comparing to when Wolf was hired) since Tressel is now in charge. I think Tressel knows what he is doing.
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Hiring Hood would be like winning a car and then finding out it is a used Pinto.
Yes and one with a great engine and no transmission
Stollo is acting more llike a used car salesman than an AD
I am not sure Tressel is involved in this situation as much as we would like to believe.
Penguin Nation - It wouldn't surprise me at all if Justin Bieber was the next name to circulate in the rumor mill
PLEASE MR STOLLO, DON'T SCREW THIS UP!
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The guy you hire should have a better resume than the guy you fired.
Pelini obviously does.
Hood does not. Not even close.
Wolford has a higher win % than Hood over the most recent two years, and got it in the top FCS conference. Massey ranks the OVC seventh in the FCS.
This post nails it.
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You people all look for giant status for a small school. Everyone mentioned Spurrier more than Wolford when he was hired. You sit back and wonder who the president YSU will hire? The answer is NO ONE, it will be the AD. Do any of you remember this interview with Spurrier the Monday after we hired Wolf?
"Eric Wolford told me today he's taking the Youngstown State head job. So we wish Eric well. I've already got a stack of lists of possible O-line coaches. He told me officially today that he wanted to take the head job. If it's a good decision, time will tell. I didn't think it was the right decision for him right now, but we all have choices to make and that's what he wanted to do." ...
So now if you approve of our next hire, it is Tressel's hire and if not ...it is Strollo's hire and we have to hear FIRE STROLLO for the hundredth time this year. Are you going to yell "fire Tressel" if the next guy does not work out?
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My source tells me that this is Strollo's hire...Tress is out of picture. They are going to give Pelini time to see what happens at Pitt and if Les Miles takes the Michigan job he may go there with him. It will be Strollo's to win big or screw up. More or less...Strollo is on the line. May not be until the end of the month before we here something. Hood is still available but he may have Vanderbilt D - Coordinator lined up so he needs to know soon. They brought some other people in today...Okie State asst. coach who has ties back here with his wife....
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If what peteonastick posted is true, then I hope all of this backfires on Strollo and YSU.
Bo Pelini is a good coach. He is not a god. There is no guarantee YSU will be signifigantly better with Pelinin that they were with Wolford, or than they could be with a current FCS Head Coach from a lower tier program, or a quality assistant coach for whom this would be their first Head Coaching job. Same of a current D2 coach who has a proven track record of success as an HC. This is ridiculous waiting, waiting and waiting on Pelini. He is not worth waiting on for another 2,3,4 weeks. And, I have no doubt the situation with Pelini is more than a simple yes or no, as Valley Talk stated. Which is all the more reason for red flags to be raised in regards to Pelini.
It would not surprise me at all if Wolford is watching all of this and laughing. I was not a big fan of Wolford. He rubbed me the wrong way from his very first press conference. Having said that, at this point, it is looking more and more as if YSU would have been best to just keep Wolford for at least 1 more year.
Also, as this process drags on, I have no problem believing Tressel has little to no involvement in the process. And, to me, that is a good thing. Shows he is taking the job as President seriously, and he is trusting Ron Strollo to handle things. And, the AD is the one who should be handling the search for a new HC, not the University President. Role of University President ought to be sit in on and/or participate in interviews when a candidate chosen by the AD comes for an interview. And, be in on approving the final decision. Otherwise, the President has many other things to focus on at a University the size of YSU.
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If what peteonastick posted is true, then I hope all of this backfires on Strollo and YSU.
Bo Pelini is a good coach. He is not a god. There is no guarantee YSU will be signifigantly better with Pelinin that they were with Wolford, or than they could be with a current FCS Head Coach from a lower tier program, or a quality assistant coach for whom this would be their first Head Coaching job. Same of a current D2 coach who has a proven track record of success as an HC. This is ridiculous waiting, waiting and waiting on Pelini. He is not worth waiting on for another 2,3,4 weeks. And, I have no doubt the situation with Pelini is more than a simple yes or no, as Valley Talk stated. Which is all the more reason for red flags to be raised in regards to Pelini.
It would not surprise me at all if Wolford is watching all of this and laughing. I was not a big fan of Wolford. He rubbed me the wrong way from his very first press conference. Having said that, at this point, it is looking more and more as if YSU would have been best to just keep Wolford for at least 1 more year.
Also, as this process drags on, I have no problem believing Tressel has little to no involvement in the process. And, to me, that is a good thing. Shows he is taking the job as President seriously, and he is trusting Ron Strollo to handle things. And, the AD is the one who should be handling the search for a new HC, not the University President. Role of University President ought to be sit in on and/or participate in interviews when a candidate chosen by the AD comes for an interview. And, be in on approving the final decision. Otherwise, the President has many other things to focus on at a University the size of YSU.
There's no guarantee that Pelini will get YSU into the playoffs, but out of all the candidates, he has the best resume and has shown he can win in the Big10. This is a do or die hire for Strollo I believe.
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Getting Pelini is not realistic. Not going to happen. This is what everyone wishes for but it is wishful thinking
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Getting Pelini is not realistic. Not going to happen. This is what everyone wishes for but it is wishful thinking
It is unclear if he ends up here, but I can assure you of this, this is far from wishful thinking.
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ysufan0505,
Pelini is clearly playing YSU. If he TRULY wanted to be HC at YSU, then he would already be hired. The actual details of his pay and assistant's pay could be worked out once he is hired. Remember, he is going to get paid a large sum of money from Nebraska over the next 5 years. And, if he expects to coach at YSU and have assistants be paid the same as assistants at FBS schools, then he does not belong in FCS.
YSU appears to be putting all of their eggs in the Pelini basket, and then interviewing other people as back-ups. Why would those other people want to wait on Pelini? As 1AAFan stated, the coaches who are presently coaching at other schools and have interviews with YSU risk facing a backlash from the schools at which they currently coach. So, why even interview with YSU when it becomes more and more clear each day that YSU has their eyes on Pelini, with all others far, far, far behind.
At some point, you tell Pelini he is not the right coach for YSU. And, that time has come and gone. You know what, I do not care who is hired. I like to see YSU sports do well, but my life does not revolve around YSU sports. And, I engage in these discussions because they are interesting, and I enjoy discussions about sports. Also, YSU is my Alma Mater. But, in the big picture of my life, who is HC of ANY sport at YSU and the won-loss records of the teams is meaningless. Does not mean I want t he teams to lose, just means my life does not change whether YSU wins or loses a game or games.
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Mike Yurcich, OC, Okla. St.
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I agree with the arguments from Let's Talk's first paragraph. It was entirely proper for Strollo to make the offer to Pelini, only because of the unique situation where Nebraska would have footed most of the bill for several years. But since Pelini is obviously using YSU as a last resort, fall-back position (just as YSU is apparently dangling those other coaches) why would you want him? He would bolt at the first opportunity from a power conference or from the NFL. He could even leave before he coached next season. No thank you. Move on.
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Mike Yurcich, OC, Okla. St.
Lol.
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Mike Yurcich, OC, Okla. St.
Lol.
I think Paladin is onto something. Perhaps that would be a good one. Fresh blood too
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Yurcich is an Ohio boy from Euclid area and wife is from Youngstown. Mt. Union guy I believe. Experience as OC at D-2 Shippensburg and Edinboro before that. Has been at Okla. St. For 2 years as OC but is. On the hot seat and contract is up. Fans want him out. No word on his future contract status
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So what makes him a good candidate? Didn't see Ok St have too much success with him this year (Granted they had a lot of injuries) and he's pretty much being the scapegoat for that. Don't see him as a solid HC choice. Not enough coaching experience/too young.
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Dana Balash brought up the coach from Oklahoma St. This morning on 570 this morning.
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So what makes him a good candidate? Didn't see Ok St have too much success with him this year
Experience as OC at D-2. On the hot seat and contract is up. Fans want him out.
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Harbaugh won't be back with the 49ers. Add him to the rumor mill Just as good of chance.
It makes you wonder if Strollo wasn't prepared or YSU is a job you catch before you fall off the ladder.
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I am not recommending Yurcich, just passing along info. Frankly ,I do not see great candidates flocking here. Pelini is b. S. Strollo looks like a fool being played by him.
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Exactly when did Pelini ever say he was coming to Youngstown?
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Pelini has NEVER said he is coming to YSU. It has been said by ScooperPooper, and then was picked up by ESPN, CBS, some other National Outlets and all the Ytown media. And, some people on here will not let Pelini to YSU die.
To me, the ONLY reason for him to come to YSU is if he is desperate to be an HC next season, and he does not get hired by any of the FBS schools with HC openings. Otherwise, he ought not have a problem getting hired as a DC or at worst a position coach for a "power 5" FBS school or an NFL team.
As for Harbaugh, my bet is he goes to Mikchigan. Do not think Les Miles will leave LSU, and pretty certain Michigan would love to have Harbaugh. So too would the fans.
I think alot of people have forgotten YSU is in FCS, and a program that has made the playoffs 1 time in 14 years. Still one of the better jobs in FCS, but not a dominant program like when Tressel left. The rumors of Pelini to YSU have seemed to make people forget even more YSU is in FCS, is a shadow of the program under Tressel, and you do not get "big name" coaches taking HC jobs at FCS programs. Tressel was 33 years old and a position coach for OSU when he applied for the job at YSU.
Montana is a better program than YSU. The leading candidate for their HC job is Bob Stitt, who has been HC at Colorado School of Mines for the last 15 years. They are a D2 school.
Brent Pease, a former UM quarterback and currently WR coach at Washington is another possiblity. Pease is 50 years old and never been an HC at any level. He was OC/QB coach at Florida in 2012 and 2013 before going to UW. Another leading candidate is Ty Gregorak, the DC at Montana. He is 36, and has been an Assistant Coach at Montana for 11 years. He was TE coach at Central Washington University for 1 season before joining the coaching staff at Montana.
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Sorry Lets_Talk
I should have used the sarcasm font when I mentioned Harbaugh
You made many valid points. It's a shame that YSU's star has almost completely burned out.
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I really wanna know what's going on in Strollo's head. He's ****ing the bed here.
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I really wanna know what's going on in Strollo's head. He's ****ing the bed here.
Before you are so quick to judge, why don't you attempt to get all of the facts in the situation? I've been told it is a complicated situation that can best be described as "bizarre." I've also been told we should know something by tomorrow, unless yesterday's interview changed the dynamics.
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Valley Talk,
It is hard to have all the facts, when Strollo is being so tight lipped about this whole process. YSU is a public university. What happened to the days when the names and backgrounds of applicants was made public by YSU? When the names and backgrounds of people being interviewed were made public by YSU?
I'm not talking having a tweet, by someone in the media. I'm talking the YSU Athletic Department letting the public know the names of people who have applied, and names of people given interviews.
As for Pelinin, if the situation is so "bizarre", then to me, it's time to wish Bo the best, and move on to other candidates. And, you say we ought to know something on Monday, but on Saturday you said to watch PoopScoop(my name for that site ::) ), and there was NOTHING about the YSU job on the site.
There is no real reason for it to be this much of a mess. It was known entering the season, that if YSU missed the playoffs, and especially if it was 7-5 or worse and no playoffs, then Wolford would be fired. I understand YSU went into the NDSU game with an opportunity to win and make the playoffs, but odds of that were very low. So, why not have the search process started IMMEDIATELY after the loss to Indy State? I don;t know, maybe that did happen. The problem is, it's hard to know when Strollo and others in the Athletic Administration are being so tight lipped about everything. And, what that leads to is internet rumors, and then people such as yourself who may or may not have as much inside info as you claim to have, coming on here and making posts like the oe you just made. If this coaching search truly is "bizarre", then that does not bode well.
And, while all the secrecy? This is a Head Football Coach. If the names of applicants for University President are made public, then the names of finalists, and dates of their interviews, why not the same for hiring a football coach? You say something ought to be known Tuesday. Well, what is that something? And, what if Tuesday comes, and nothing new is known? Another poster, one I know has ties to people in the Athletic Dept and went to the same high school as Pelini, said this could take another 2-3 weeks. That person is not one to just make something up and post it on here. This does not mean it will take 2-3 more weeks, just means this search does not appear as if it will be over by Tuesday.
In the end, I do not care who gets hired. However, I do have a MAJOR issue with all the secrecy. And, I'm a freaking liberal for crying out loud. A "bleeding heart liberal", yet even I think the lack of transparency from a PUBLIC UNIVERSITY is total bulls#!t with a really, really, really awful odor. :(
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It is hard to have all the facts, when Strollo is being so tight lipped about this whole process. YSU is a public university. What happened to the days when the names and backgrounds of applicants was made public by YSU? When the names and backgrounds of people being interviewed were made public by YSU?
I am not so concerned about Stollo being so tight lipped; however, this makes you think he doesn't have a plan or thought that applicants would flood his office. Note: It makes ME think that way but that doesn't mean that is what is actually happening.
As for Pelinin, if the situation is so "bizarre", then to me, it's time to wish Bo the best, and move on to other candidates.
I can't find anywhere that Pelini said he was interested in the YSU job so I wish this could be put to rest for a while.
There is no real reason for it to be this much of a mess. It was known entering the season, that if YSU missed the playoffs, and especially if it was 7-5 or worse and no playoffs, then Wolford would be fired. I understand YSU went into the NDSU game with an opportunity to win and make the playoffs, but odds of that were very low. So, why not have the search process started IMMEDIATELY after the loss to Indy State?
AGREED
In the end I DO care who gets hired. This is a big chance to right the ship and get back fan support.
Before you are so quick to judge, why don't you attempt to get all of the facts in the situation? I've been told it is a complicated situation that can best be described as "bizarre."
Which just makes me think there wasn't a solid plan in place when the decision came to remove Wolford.
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Excellent points Scarlet Rock!!!
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I really wanna know what's going on in Strollo's head. He's ****ing the bed here.
Before you are so quick to judge, why don't you attempt to get all of the facts in the situation? I've been told it is a complicated situation that can best be described as "bizarre." I've also been told we should know something by tomorrow, unless yesterday's interview changed the dynamics.
All the facts? What facts? All we hear are a bunch of rumors!! The longer this plays out, the more I think it's gonna be the same as last year and we're going to plan B or C.
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I can't find anywhere that Pelini said he was interested in the YSU job so I wish this could be put to rest for a while.
Agreed. The frustrating part is we always seem to be two days from the big announcement. None of this makes sense if the top choice isn't a big fish like Pelini on the line or an FBS assistant with a bowl-bound team. If the pick were Hood, the deal could have been done last week and he could have moved into a temporary apartment over the weekend.
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So basically, all of this boils down to YSU waiting on Pelini to tell them yes or no. Plain and simple.
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Does anyone really believe Pelini comes to Youngstown?
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Does anyone really believe Pelini comes to Youngstown?
Not really. Having said that, he probably did say no either. Otherwise, we would have moved on. IMO, he must have either given a timeline (waiting for all the FBS positions to played) and/or a set of expectations ($, $ for assistants, legal issues related to buyout clause at Nebraska, and others) for YSU to meet. In the mean time, YSU is waiting and working on (Plan A).
I don't see how this would work out well for those who are waiting for YSU decisions (Plan B).
We better have a good Plan C.
I don't remember reading about Pelini ever saying that he was interested in coming to YSU. However, I also don't remember him saying he was not interested either.
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Does anyone really believe Pelini comes to Youngstown?
Then why would this be taking so long? Obviously there is interest from all rumors we have heard..... We have only heard about Hood and this OC from Oklahoma State otherwise so yeah, I believe it.
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Does anyone really believe Pelini comes to Youngstown?
Then why would this be taking so long? Obviously there is interest from all rumors we have heard..... We have only heard about Hood and this OC from Oklahoma State otherwise so yeah, I believe it.
It is taking so long because we are either waiting on Pelini or they didn't like the list they ha. Either way it sort of shows me that there was no formal planning process and we areally losing valuable recruiting time.
Oneven situation I didn't consider until I sat down to write this is that perhaps they want to keepisode much of the staff intact and maybe they are trying to find a person that will keep the good ones here. Not sure but we don't have a bunch of bad coaches maybe need a different leader. Who knows. But Pelini is wishful thinking.
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I would beg to differ "power". The fact is, we are recruiting heavy right now. All of these rumors mentioning big-time candidates are better than anything we could have had from Wolf ..or any head coach for that matter.
Also, this is the first class with Tressel as president.
This should end up as Wolf's best class.
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Power and IAA Fan,
Some media type (Balash?) said on the radio yesterday that this is a "quiet" period in recruiting when coaches cannot contact potential players. That apparently is the case until sometime in January. The new guy still obviously needs time to scrutinize our list of potential recruits, and the clock is running.
It is highly likely that the new guy, as power suggested, will find some members of this staff to be far superior to those he is leaving behind. That is certainly the case if it ends up being Hood. I doubt that many FCS assistants are paid as well as ours. I have a hunch that IAA Fan will be happy and 0505 will be in despair when the new staff takes shape.
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That is somewhat true Wick. However, all of December and January are recruiting months, with these exception:
December 12: Quiet Period (for junior college prospects enrolling mid-year only)
December 13-16: Dead Period (for junior college prospects enrolling mid-year only; staff may have contact with recruits who have been admitted for mid-year enrollment)
December 17-18: Quiet Period (for junior college prospects enrolling mid-year only)
December 19: Quiet Period
December 20-January 3: Dead Period (staff may have contact with recruits who have been admitted for mid-year enrollment)
January 9: Quiet Period
January 10-13: Dead Period (staff may have contact with recruits who have been admitted for mid-year enrollment)
So we did just enter the quiet periods, but our coaches have been recruiting. We have had one heavy week & will not have another until January 3. After this we do need to worry, as our assistants contracts expire just when we hit the last heavy period. This is a biggy, as we get those good recruits that were passed over by the big programs.
Then again I question just how many scholarships remain. If anyone has this info it would be appreciated.
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Sorry but I highly doubt YSU is waiting on Pelini to see if he has better offers. No one is going to wait around like that. It probably has something to do with his contract or buy out from Nebraska and details need worked out. Pelini would have received offers the day it was announced he was fired.
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The board of trustees has scheduled a meeting for 3pm tomorrow. Not sure why but could be coach related?
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The board of trustees has scheduled a meeting for 3pm tomorrow. Not sure why but could be coach related?
Board of Trustees is meeting tomorrow to approve union contract with ACE (Association of Classified Employees), another union working the entire semester without a contract. The contract and fact finder report is expected to be rejected by the general members of ACE later this week.
Still could talk coach, but i'd expect a leak before to generate some excitement & interest.
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I am actually impressed on how quiet the search has been, they are really keeping things close to the vest.
That's ok as long as I am impressed with the hire.
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If Tressel were actively involved in this process, I do not believe it would be characterized as "bizarre". I could be wrong, but I do not think Tressel has anywhere near the involvement with day-to-day operations of YSU Athletic Dept as some people think. He is UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT, and has people hired to run the Athletic Department. He likely gives advice, and guidance, but not much different than he would or does for people in ANY department on campus. And, as important as it is to hire a football coach, it is MORE IMPORTANT to get the contract disputes with Faculty and ACE resolved, because first and foremost, a University is about providing EDUCATION. Sports are EXTRACURRICULAR.
I find all the secrecy appalling. YSU is a PUBLIC UNIVERSITY. When there is a search for President or Provost, names of people who apply are made public by the school, as are the names of those who make it to the interview process. And, I do not see any way that the way this process is taking place can be giving people a positive opinion of YSU? Whatever positive publicity may have come from the false leaking of Pelini as the next coach has likely been lost, and may even have become a negative. Heck, we keep talking about Pelini, myself included, even though he has NEVER stated publicly that he has any interest in the job at YSU.
The same way lists of applicants is released by the school for President, Provost and other important positions related to YSU, this process used to be done for head coaching openings. List of applicants was made public by YSU, list of finalists made public, and the ones who got interviews were even interviewed by the media in press conferences. It was true when Tressel was hired. There was no search to replace Tressel, as he suggested Heacock be named his successor, and to be honest that made sense at the time.
Names of applicants were made public when hiring a replacement for Dom Roselli. The initial replacement for Mike Rice was Bill Daily, who was a member of Rice's staff. He died in August of that year due to cancer, and was replaced by Jim Cleamons. Do not remember a whole lot about that search process, other than it was very close to the start of the season. Cleamons left after 2 years, and was replaced by John Stroia, an assistant to Cleamons. I remember names of applicants being made public when Dan Peters was hired as mens basketball coach, as were their interview dates. Same with the search process that ended with Robic being hired. Not sure about the search for Slocum. At the very least, I know the names of candidates coming for interviews was released. Strollo started working on the search for a replacement to Robic well before the season was over.
I used to try and get info out of him, but he would usually only tell me "trust me, we are talking with people". I've known him since he was in 5th grade, and that is all he would give me. I'd suggest names, and he would just smile and say "we're contacting people. By the way, Slocum is one of the coaches I was suggesting, as I went to alot of Geneva games when he coached there, and sat right behind the bench. Honestly think some of his teams at Geneva would have beat YSU. Anyway, as some know, I considered Tisha Hill a friend. Ron never came flat out and told me she was done, but I remember talking to him at the last regular season home game in the 07-08 season, and knew she was done by his tone and body language.
Names of candidates were released in the search to find the successor to Coach D. That is how I know Jodi Kest, the current coach at Akron applied and was one of the top candidates, likely THE top candidate, then withdrew her name. I remember in 1999, the likely top candidate was Sean Miller. At the time, he was an assistant at NC State. He is now HC at Arizona. Was young, and had the smarts to remain at NC State a few more years, rather than take a job at a place where success was going to be hard, not too mention he most likely was not quite ready to be a Head Coach.
I do not remember a whole lot about how things happened as far as search that resulted in Slocum being hired. I know Ron wanted a person with Head Coaching experience. I know the coach at Findlay was high on the list, as was Slocum. Do not remember if a full list of applicants was released by YSU, but know things were made public about coaches coming for interviews, complete with press conferences.
Even when Ron Strollo was hired as AD, a list of the applicants was released by YSU, and then the names of the finalists, bio of each and when they would have their interviews. That is how I can say Ron was the best choice of the people who applied for the job, because I was able to compare Ron's background with that of the other candidates
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The meeting being held on Tuesday was scheduled in NOVEMBER. Hiring of a football coach could be discussed, but this meeting was scheduled back on November 18th, and is a Regular Board Meeting.
http://web.ysu.edu/gen/ysu_generated_bin/documents/basic_module/Board_Meeting_333_November_18_2014.pdf
ITEM VIII – TIME AND PLACE OF UPCOMING REGULAR MEETINGS
"Upon motion duly made and seconded, which received the affirmative vote
of all trustees present, the trustees resolved to set the following dates and times for the next regular
meetings of the board to be held in the Board Room in Tod Hall:
3:00 p.m., Tuesday, December 16, 2014
3:00 p.m., Wednesday, March 11, 2015
3:00 p.m., Wednesday, June 17, 2015"
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Joe Scalzo @JoeScalzo1 · 26m 26 minutes ago
For those seeking YSU coach reports, one source told me "Wednesday or Thursday" and another simply told me "getting closer."
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Joe Scalzo @JoeScalzo1 · 26m 26 minutes ago
For those seeking YSU coach reports, one source told me "Wednesday or Thursday" and another simply told me "getting closer."
They probably have to work out details if it is pelini with his Nebraska buy out clause. I'm pretty sure it's not just as easy as sign a new contract.
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I'm curious as to what "details" people think needs 2 weeks to be worked out. Once you get past the money (YSU's AD is an accountant, should be pretty simplistic) what other details are left?? If there is a problem the problem is money.
It would be HIGHLY doubtful that this next coaches salary matches that of Wolford, with the current climate at YSU, (faculty vs. athletics) that would reflect quite poorly on Tressel. That is the problem when gambling like they did with wolford, you jack the price up, that price becomes associated with your institution, now the job is open and you lower the price, that looks bad. In an era of expanding football budgets, a coach does not want to see a contracting one. Its like being in an arms race with a slingshot. Findidng a suitable D1 coach who is smart enough to know their worth will be tough. Unless your looking to turn the job into a stepping stone with soft, easy out contracts.
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Observer - Good points!
I think the biggest selling point for Pelini (to we as fans) was the buyout clause in his Nebraska contract. That would cover a variety of sins for the athletic department.
1. YSU could get a Lexus for the price of a Cobalt. This would look good with the faculty/staff contracts and would allow resources for assistant coaches. A very good core group of assistants would make finding the next coach much easier.
2. Pelini could establish himself as a successful coach and one that could build a program.
3. A big name head coach would [hopefully] generate interest among the fan base and media which could lead to more revenue.
4. A very successful coach would set future standards.
That said, it would be an enormous risk for Pelini to come to Youngstown as it could damage his future marketability into another big name program. Added to the fact that in three years the Nebraska money would run out.
I would be surprised if Bo Pelini is the next head coach at YSU.
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Which raises the question why isn't the issue resolved if Hood is the guy?
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If Bo Pelini does become the next head coach, realistically he can take next to nothing for his pay... correct? Supposedly whatever he makes in his next job will just get supplemented and Nebraska will have to pay him less. So unless he finds a job making more money than he did in Nebraska (which will be tough to find for him), he's going to make about $150,000 per month for the next 51 months. If YSU paid him a measly $5,000 per month, Nebraska will pay $145,000...
So money for Bo should not be an issue. He's basically working for free.
Also, how long do we think he would stay? I would guess 3 years, and then he'll take a job at a larger program. His buyout money will be gone by then, and his kids can go to Mooney while he's coaching here.
This is just stuff running thru my head, but correct me if I'm wrong here. Bo can perhaps pay his assistants more considering YSU doesn't have to pay him much if at all.
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That said, it would be an enormous risk for Pelini to come to Youngstown as it could damage his future marketability into another big name program. Added to the fact that in three years the Nebraska money would run out.
This, in my opinion, is the only reason he may not come to YSU. The risk. If by chance, he fails, it'll look bad and could hurt him when pursuing larger jobs in the coming years.
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I can think of an excellent reason for Pelini to take the YSU job, and it has NOTHING to do with whether or not YSU is one of top FCS jobs.
To spite Nebraska and stick the screws to them. From all I have read, it seems YSU could pay Pelini $1 per year to be HC until the buyout at Nebraska runs out. Even if he is paid say $150,000 - $200,000, Nebraska would still be paying the vast majority of the money Pelini gets for the next 4+ years.
Taking this job is not without risk for Pelini. If he is not able to beat NDSU consistently, not able to win any of the "money games", and YSU misses the playoffs in ANY season, or is 1 and done or 1-1 at best in playoffs, the knock on him of being unable to guide his team to wins in big games will just get bigger. And, in that case, his HC career will be finished, unless he stays at YSU for 5,10, 15 years and can accept being paid at most $200,000-$250,000, and coaching in front of crowds of 20,000 or less(most of the time more like 10,000, when adding in road games), instead of coaching in stadiums that hold 50,000+, are usually full or 85-90% full, and having most games televised on National TV. not ESPN 3.
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Joe Scalzo @JoeScalzo1 · 26m 26 minutes ago
For those seeking YSU coach reports, one source told me "Wednesday or Thursday" and another simply told me "getting closer."
They probably have to work out details if it is pelini with his Nebraska buy out clause. I'm pretty sure it's not just as easy as sign a new contract.
Agreed. It would be nice to get him just don't think it can happen.
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Dana Balash reporting Bo is coach. Lets see if this one sticks!!!
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Dana Balash, Joe scalzo, chad krispinsky all reporting its a done deal. Let's go Bo!
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If it is true, then the next few years at YSU ought to be very, very, very interesting.
It has been over 1 hour since the thread stating Pelinin to YSU is a done deal was started. And, now almost 30 minutes since a person posted on that thread said WKBN is saying this is true. Yet, nothing on ESPN.com, CBSSportsline or Yahoo Sports. Not saying Pelini to YSU isn't going to happen, just saying those 3 National sites are not reporting on this story. Kind of odd if this is indeed a done deal. I'm guessing they were duped once, so this time they are waiting until 100% certain to run with the story.
I did see an article on SB Nation, and it cited FootballScoop as the outlet that made this public. Then story was updated to say Ytown media are also reporting story to be true. Again, the skeptic in me says this is FootballScoop throwing $h!t at the wall again, and hoping this time it sticks. SB Nation and FootballScoop are the TMZ of sports. So, once again, please understand my skepticism, until an OFFICIAL announcement is made by YSU.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/12/9/7365187/bo-pelini-hired-youngstown-state
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It's true. And I guess Football Scoop was right all along....
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Story is now on ESPN.com, but not yet on CBSSportsline or Yahoo Sports.
ESPN story says YSU is not likely to announce the hiring today. This just gets more and more bizarre. BOT is meeting today. BOT will have to approve the hire. So, if it's a done deal, why not make announcement today, then do the press conference and all the media stuff tomorrow?
How will it be possible for BOT to approve the hire today and not have that info made public today? And, does this mean BOT is going to have a special meeting tomorrow simply to approve hire of Pelini, even though BOT meets today at 3PM??
And, if ESPN is now running with the story, why is YSU waiting until tomorrow to make the announcement? If true, then this will be on SportsCenter, ESPN Radio, FOX Sports Radio and all other legitimate, major sports news outlets. So, why wait until tomorrow for someone from YSU to say publicly the story is true?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12036743/former-nebraska-cornhuskers-coach-bo-pelini-become-coach-youngstown-state-penguins
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It's true. And I guess Football Scoop was right all along....
Looks like some of you doubters need to start believing. ;) You know, the ones who said we shouldn't be waiting or said do we honestly think Pelini is considering Youngstown.
As I've been saying, it was more complicated than one would think upon first glance. The truth will come out.
Welcome to Youngstown BO!
And Lets_Talk, I appreciate you doing your due diligence, but it is a done deal. Heard rumblings late last night and heard it was official around 8:30am this morning.
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Okay, next question is WTF is Pelini thinking taking this job? From HC at Nebraska to HC of an FCS program that has made the playoffs 1 time in 14 years. Pretty sharp drop off. Hard for me to believe the YSU job is the best he can do. And, he had best win and win big, or he can forget another FBS Head job.
Losing the "money game", losing to NDSU and at least 1 other MVFC team, then going to playoffs and winning 1 game will be failure for a coach that was HC for 7 years at Nebraska. People will be expecting Tressel like results. And, not just YSU fans. Failure to beat teams like NDSU, failure to win MVFC and failure to make deep playoff run and win NC within next 2-3 years will just make the opinion that "Pelini teams cannot win the big games" echo louder than ever.
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Okay, next question is WTF is Pelini thinking taking this job? From HC at Nebraska to HC of an FCS program that has made the playoffs 1 time in 14 years. Pretty sharp drop off. Hard for me to believe the YSU job is the best he can do. And, he had best win and win big, or he can forget another FBS Head job.
Losing the "money game", losing to NDSU and at least 1 other MVFC team, then going to playoffs and winning 1 game will be failure for a coach that was HC for 7 years at Nebraska. People will be expecting Tressel like results. And, not just YSU fans. Failure to beat teams like NDSU, failure to win MVFC and failure to make deep playoff run and win NC within next 2-3 years will just make the opinion that "Pelini teams cannot win the big games" echo louder than ever.
Maybe we are going FBS Division 1
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Hey power, I thought there was no way Bo was coming here? Lol ;)
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Hey power, I thought there was no way Bo was coming here? Lol ;)
Didn't think it could happen. Hopefully the plane doesn't crash.
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Strollo is dumb. Strollo is stupid. Strollo doesn't know what he is doing. Strollo hasn't done anything for this university. Should have fired Strollo when we fired Wolford. Those of you who think Strollo has done a good job as AD have no idea what you are talking about. ;)
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I agree Strollo is a much better AD than some people give him credit for being. Having said that, Pelini has not won a single game yet at YSU. The jury is still out on whether this will be a great hire. Look at Akron with Terry Bowden. New Mexico with Bob Davie. Kansas with Charlie Weiss. OU is nothing special with Frank Solich. Better than before Solich, but that is not saying much.
John Robinson was 28-42 at UNLV in 6 years, with ONE winning season, and one trip to a bowl game. And he is in the College Football Hall of Fame.
Earle Bruce went 5-6 in 1 season at UNI after being fired by OSU. He then went 22-24-1 in 4 seasons at Colorado State with 1 winning season. In 9 years at OSU, Bruce was 81-26-1, won 4 Big to Titles, had 6 seasons of 9-3, one of 10-3, one of 11-1 and was 6-5 in his final year. OSU went 5-3 in Bowl Games.
YSU is NOT an elite FCS program any longer. They are not even an elite team in the MVFC. Hopefully that will change with Pelini as HC, but there is no guarantee. And, after 9 years in the NFL, then 12 years at Nebraska, LSU and Oklahoma, this is going to be a HUGE drop in terms of facilities, budget, the way the team travels, size of crowds at games, quantity of equipment and many, many other things. Call me negative, call me a hater, call me what you wish. Just pointing out facts, and pointing out simply hiring Bo Pelini does not make YSU the favorite to win the MVFC next year, let alone the NC, yet alot of people will be expecting that level of success.
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I agree Strollo is a much better AD than some people give him credit for being. Having said that, Pelini has not won a single game yet at YSU. The jury is still out on whether this will be a great hire.
YSU is NOT an elite FCS program any longer. They are not even an elite team in the MVFC. Hopefully that will change with Pelini as HC, but there is no guarantee.
Call me negative, call me a hater, call me what you wish. Just pointing out facts, and pointing out simply hiring Bo Pelini does not make YSU the favorite to win the MVFC next year, let alone the NC, yet alot of people will be expecting that level of success.
I agree, but as much as I stated here that I didn't think he would come, I am happy he is the new HC
Happy because this should be the shot in the arm that the football program needs. So in the meantime, lets support the decision and support the team. Time will tell if Bo can get us back on track. Heck, we could even welcome Pally back. j/k
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If two years ago, someone on this board would have said that in 2015 Jim Tressel was going to be university president, and Bo Pelini would be head coach, I would have asked the moderators too ban him and have him committed!
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Hey!! When are all you guys that doubted me going to line up and kiss my a$$? I'm two for two.. Tressel to Ohio State and Pelini to YSU fb
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Hey!! When are all you guys that doubted me going to line up and kiss my a$$? I'm two for two.. Tressel to Ohio State and Pelini to YSU fb
I will say congratulations on being right. Seems to be great hires for Youngstown State University.
I will also admit that I didn't believe either would happen.
As far as the rest of your post......grow up.
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Hey!! When are all you guys that doubted me going to line up and kiss my a$$? I'm two for two.. Tressel to Ohio State and Pelini to YSU fb
I will say congratulations on being right. Seems to be great hires for Youngstown State University.
I will also admit that I didn't believe either would happen.
As far as the rest of your post......grow up.
Make me ...
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What a home run hire by Strollo, a possible turning point for our program to get some excitement back. Understand he didn't win a championship at Nebraska but 9 wins in each of his seven seasons is really impressive. 9 wins at YSU and we're hosting a home game, maybe more. This just goes to show the old saying is true, there truly is no place like home. Welcome back, Coach Pelini and here's to many wins and hopes of getting #5.
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Any early reactions from media or players?
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Jeff Rotheram @JRotheram_ · 2h2 hours ago
Never thought I would have the opportunity to play for a guy like Bo Pelini. Can't wait for spring ball!
Ricky Davis @YSURickyDavis · 3h3 hours ago
Bo Pelini is our head coach. Best Christmas gift we could've asked for.
Here are a couple.
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Dana Balash @DanaBalash21 · 2h2 hours ago
@21WFMJSports I'm hearing phones at the YSU ticket office are ringing steady over the pending announcement of Bo Pelini
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I wonder how much he's getting paid...and who is footing the bill. My first guess is way more than people will estimate, and if that guess is true, what will be the fallout?
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I wonder how much he's getting paid...and who is footing the bill. My first guess is way more than people will estimate, and if that guess is true, what will be the fallout?
My guess is Nebraska is footing a large % of the bill.
I hope there is money left to get great assistant coaches.
Wonder if Bo can bring his D. Coordinator from Nebraska?
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Welcome home Bo!
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And now the truth finally comes out:
http://footballscoop.com/news/inside-scoop-youngstown-state-played/
Kudos to Football Scoop!
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Bo has already contacted the players, and they are EXCITED! What an energy boost for this program!
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Football Scoop said Strollo had to go to YSUs major contributors and the BOT wanted the $ commitment in writing... Kudos to all of those who stepped up to make this happen and their continued support of both academics and athletics at YSU....
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And now the truth finally comes out:
http://footballscoop.com/news/inside-scoop-youngstown-state-played/
Kudos to Football Scoop!
Talked to Scott regarding this Saturday evening. I informed him I'd keep it under wraps until finalized. He is a class act and doesn't hide when called upon.
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any player posts? I don't do social media.
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I wonder how much he's getting paid...and who is footing the bill. My first guess is way more than people will estimate, and if that guess is true, what will be the fallout?
My guess is Nebraska is footing a large % of the bill.
I hope there is money left to get great assistant coaches.
Wonder if Bo can bring his D. Coordinator from Nebraska?
I agree. I think it'll be heavily on Nebraska. If Bo really wanted to stick it to them, he can work for $10 a year if he wanted. He's gonna make the same money regardless of what YSU pays him.
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Ryan C. Moore @ATH_Moore21 · 6h 6 hours ago
Just got a team message from Coach Pelini and I'm honored to have him as a head coach.
Jeff Rotheram @JRotheram_ · 6h 6 hours ago
Never thought I would have the opportunity to play for a guy like Bo Pelini. Can't wait for spring ball!
Ricky Davis @YSURickyDavis · 7h 7 hours ago
Bo Pelini is our head coach. Best Christmas gift we could've asked for.
Nick Sheely @N_Sheely06 · 8h 8 hours ago
Bo to the Yo!
Cole Kochman @kochman5 · 3h 3 hours ago
Start of a new era! Watch out for us we coming #YSUfootball
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I can hardly believe what I read!! Bo Peleni the new YSU football coach. Wow what a momentum boost. This is exciting and many new recruits would love the opportunity to have Bo as their coach.
Great job with all involved to have him back into the area and coaching YSU.
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Dana Balash @DanaBalash21 · 2h2 hours ago
@21WFMJSports I'm hearing phones at the YSU ticket office are ringing steady over the pending announcement of Bo Pelini
Why would they be calling the ticket office? There will still be plenty of free tickets in the tailgate lots, just like always. The corps. can't possibly use or even give away all the tickets they buy.
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Has anyone heard whether Bo will work for $1.00 and donate the rest of the 250k to the asst coach fund?
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Okay, next question is WTF is Pelini thinking taking this job? From HC at Nebraska to HC of an FCS program that has made the playoffs 1 time in 14 years. Pretty sharp drop off. Hard for me to believe the YSU job is the best he can do. And, he had best win and win big, or he can forget another FBS Head job.
Losing the "money game", losing to NDSU and at least 1 other MVFC team, then going to playoffs and winning 1 game will be failure for a coach that was HC for 7 years at Nebraska. People will be expecting Tressel like results. And, not just YSU fans. Failure to beat teams like NDSU, failure to win MVFC and failure to make deep playoff run and win NC within next 2-3 years will just make the opinion that "Pelini teams cannot win the big games" echo louder than ever.
Maybe we are going FBS Division 1
Why did he take this job? Do not discount the fact that he and MP want their kids to go to Mooney. I saw them this summer and the two oldest ones are near high school age the best I could tell.
Add the whole family thing into the mix. They both have family here and that could be a big reason too. Doing the right thing or what you perceive as the right thing for your wife and kids and putting aside your ambition is an honorable thing.
Should be a totally stress-free FUN job for him and he is out of the pressure cooker.
It's going to be interesting.
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My thoughts as well Lecter. Bo can afford to donate $$$ to YSU for an assistant coach fund, in addition to YSU $$$$$$$.
And as King of the free tickets, I know you will get company tickets. As for the public, many will wait and see if Bo can win. Maybe.... Maybe they will start to return the second year.
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My thoughts as well Lecter. Bo can afford to donate $$$ to YSU for an assistant coach fund, in addition to YSU $$$$$$$.
And as King of the free tickets, I know you will get company tickets. As for the public, many will wait and see if Bo can win. Maybe.... Maybe they will start to return the second year.
You willing to bet their will be more penguin club memberships this year then last year ?
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Hello from Ohio fan here. Hope this comes true tomorrow. I was at North Dakota State game last year and swore someday I would be back. Hope to see you in the MAC so I will have an excuse to give my wife so I can visit your great university again.
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There should be, EE. The club is primarily business oriented as they buy to pass out to employees and customers. Always had hospital and major company groups sitting around us. But those guys are using for a tax write off. It's the general public (butts in seats) that is noticeable and those aren't in club seats. Despite the hype, I don't see people returning just because of Bo. Gotta win. Then maybe.
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There should be, EE. The club is primarily business oriented as they buy to pass out to employees and customers. Always had hospital and major company groups sitting around us. But those guys are using for a tax write off. It's the general public (butts in seats) that is noticeable and those aren't in club seats. Despite the hype, I don't see people returning just because of Bo. Gotta win. Then maybe.
I bought my season tickets as a penguin club member so...... (I need a back on my seat, what can I say)
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Many, many more people will be in the seats next year, just for the intrigue of Bo.
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The most intriguing thing that I'm looking at right now. We'll get to see if Eric Wolford was a great recruiter/bad coach. Or a bad recruiter/worse coach. I'm very interested to see how his players play under a new regime.
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Regardless of your thoughts about Strollo and whether or not the Pelini hire is a good/bad one, the least everyone can do is give him a chance. Let's support this team no matter who were playing. I get some people are upset about our scheduling. As someone who has lived out of state for the past 6 years, I am envious of everyone who has the ability to go to games. Because to me, there is nothing like a game-day at Stambaugh Stadium. Beat Pittsburgh!
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Hey, 05. This ain't a major university with big promos and slick marketing. Its YSU. And Bo still won't mean crap to the general public. I'd bet $$$$$$$$$$ you will still hear b****ing and griping next season as butts fail to fill up seats. Not ticket sales as I expect the business community to buy up blocks of tickets. But actual butts in seats. It won't be much changed overall on the season and only early on in good weather will a possible slight increase occur. Gotta win. Then maybe they will start to return. Bo does not assure anything, not even wins. Senior day will be awful and late season bad weather games will drive them away. Its going to take some good years to rebuild the fan base again.
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Hey, 05. This ain't a major university with big promos and slick marketing. Its YSU. And Bo still won't mean crap to the general public. I'd bet $$$$$$$$$$ you will still hear b****ing and griping next season as butts fail to fill up seats. Not ticket sales as I expect the business community to buy up blocks of tickets. But actual butts in seats. It won't be much changed overall on the season and only early on in good weather will a possible slight increase occur. Gotta win. Then maybe they will start to return. Bo does not assure anything, not even wins. Senior day will be awful and late season bad weather games will drive them away. Its going to take some good years to rebuild the fan base again.
Bo will mean crap to the general public, guarantee it. Just watch.
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Quite don't understand the hater analysis of Pally his point of view is tainted due to his hatred of Strollo. The new hire has won at all levels and will win here.
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FWIW, expect a salary similar to Wolf's is what I'm hearing. We will find out in next few days for sure, but I can't see us going much below Wolford's to risk any legal repercussions with Nebraska.
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ysugo -- you are part of the cheerleader group. You wouldn't know an honest opinion if it kicked you in the balls.
The reality is YSU HAS lost it's fan base and will not get it back just with a name hire. Didn't you see enough empty seats last season to get it thru your thick skull ? Gotta win and there are no if and or butts (lol) about that. The name Pelini does not assure crowds coming back and as the people on the street corner know, it does not assure wins either.
Sit back, grab some popcorn. I am assuring that it going to be a fun gig. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just wait and see ! 8)
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ysugo -- you are part of the cheerleader group. You wouldn't know an honest opinion if it kicked you in the balls.
The reality is YSU HAS lost it's fan base and will not get it back just with a name hire. Didn't you see enough empty seats last season to get it thru your thick skull ? Gotta win and there are no if and or butts (lol) about that. The name Pelini does not assure crowds coming back and as the people on the street corner know, it does not assure wins either.
Sit back, grab some popcorn. I am assuring that it going to be a fun gig. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just wait and see ! 8)
All I ask of you is to wish Bo Pelini the best in his head coaching career at YSU. If your ego prohibits such an action, go find your way to the ONU forums to cheer for your boy Patrick Angle.
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I guess that I will never understand why some folks are always so negative about everything. Life is too short.
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Hey , I just did. Thanks for reminding me, VT. It seems he was a two year Capt., twice HM All- OAC and broke the school record for passing completion % each year he started. I understand he loved it there.
Yep. good luck to Bo.
Now, let the fun begin. I hope he doesn't stick his foot in his mouth in the first presser ! ;D
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Hey , I just did. Thanks for reminding me, VT. It seems he was a two year Capt., twice HM All- OAC and broke the school record for passing completion % each year he started. I understand he loved it there.
Yep. good luck to Bo.
Now, let the fun begin. I hope he doesn't stick his foot in his mouth in the first presser ! ;D
Call up your man in DC with the teleprompter.
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ysugo -- you are part of the cheerleader group. You wouldn't know an honest opinion if it kicked you in the balls.
The reality is YSU HAS lost it's fan base and will not get it back just with a name hire. Didn't you see enough empty seats last season to get it thru your thick skull ? Gotta win and there are no if and or butts (lol) about that. The name Pelini does not assure crowds coming back and as the people on the street corner know, it does not assure wins either.
Sit back, grab some popcorn. I am assuring that it going to be a fun gig. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just wait and see ! 8)
I heard the phones in the ticket office were lit up today after word got out
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Jesus christ himself could come coach this program to an undefeated season and a championship and Pally still would find something to complain about, unreal.
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Jesus christ himself could come coach this program to an undefeated season and a championship and Pally still would find something to complain about, unreal.
That's because some people from Youngstown complain just to complain.
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Jesus christ himself could come coach this program to an undefeated season and a championship and Pally still would find something to complain about, unreal.
That's because some people from Youngstown complain just to complain.
Especially if they ever found out Jesus Christ didn't attend Mooney.
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Jesus christ himself could come coach this program to an undefeated season and a championship and Pally still would find something to complain about, unreal.
That's because some people from Youngstown complain just to complain.
Especially if they ever found out Jesus Christ didn't attend Mooney.
He probably does not believe in JC. He would still complain if you replace JC by GOD.
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Press conference is at 11am today.
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Jesus christ himself could come coach this program to an undefeated season and a championship and Pally still would find something to complain about, unreal.
That's because some people from Youngstown complain just to complain.
Especially if they ever found out Jesus Christ didn't attend Mooney.
True, his mother would have his head if he wasn't an Ursuline guy :)