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Title: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Pita on October 20, 2014, 07:15:51 PM
What do you predict for Saturdays game?  I see it as a battle royal.  Since it's on their field, it troubles me.  I  see it as a squeaker....but don't know which team will  squeak the loudest.

What do you think (not your heart, your brain).

GO  TEAM!!!!p
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Wick250 on October 20, 2014, 07:34:05 PM
This is a bad matchup....for our coach.  In 4+ seasons, Wolford has enjoyed success against Southern Illinois, split with Illinois State, and even played competitive games against UNI.  But we have stunk against SDSU with Wolford getting badly out-coached every time.  With that track record, it is hard to be optimistic.

However, SDSU has given up a lot of points in league play and ranks last in the conference in turnover margin.  They have been using their #2 quarterback for much of the season.  If our defense shows up and the offensive line performs well and our coaching staff refrains from doing something stupid, we have a chance.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: guinpen on October 20, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
As I recall they have manhandled us the past couple of years, if that continues then it will be a long day. If we man up to them then I like our chances.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Pita on October 20, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
Wick...I'm betting on two out of three.  Good post.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 20, 2014, 09:23:59 PM
Their very good QB, Austin Sumner, will be out for this one. Their backup who has started since game one got beat up a bit at the UNI Dome but escaped with a win. It will all come down to us stopping Zenner. Curious to see the wrinkles they throw in to slow him down.

Here is the tweet from last week:
@TerryVandrovec: Your weekly Austin Sumner injury update: "We think maybe three weeks at best." – SDSU coach John Stiegelmeier
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Lets_Talk on October 20, 2014, 09:39:18 PM
YSU has lost 6 in a row to SDSU.... SDSU is well coached...game is at SDSU.... will be a tough game for YSU to win... YSU has the talent to win, but I think they are going to need to play better than they have in any game so far this year to win

SDSU does have a backup QB, but they still have the 3rd best passing offense in MVFC. DSU has 2 big receivers and Zenner is very good catching the ball out of the backfield.

SDSU also has the 2nd best pass defense in MVFC, so will be interesting to see how the offense fares with Wells starting his first road game.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: peteonastick on October 20, 2014, 09:59:20 PM
As long as it is not Hobo Week there...I think we got a chance.  Leg haired women are bad luck!!

GO GUINS
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: peteonastick on October 20, 2014, 10:06:18 PM
Damn...I just looked it up..it is Hobo Week!!  Miss Homelycoming Pageant is Wednesday after the Bum-a-Meal and the Great Hobo Race..we got no chance!!


Go Guins
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 20, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
Time to get payback for the last couple years. Finally getting a W at SDSU will exercise some demons for this team and catapult us towards the playoffs... Especially with Sumner out, YSU gets the W.

YSU 27
SDSU 21
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: DavedS on October 21, 2014, 12:17:09 AM
Although UNI eventually lost the game they did hold Zenner to 80yds on 29 carries.The consensus was that both teams played terribly but UNI played a little more terribly.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 21, 2014, 08:33:12 AM
We need to give them heavy doses of throwing to the tight end so we can punish their secondary.  They will be hell bent on stopping our run so I think we should do this several times.  We will need to establish a run game to play keep away from their offense.   I would like to see us use a fullback up the middle to help create holes in the running game and help protect the qb.  I think we will have to stay balanced. They won't be fooled with our read option if Wells is in there.  I would also like to see them use both QB's in the backfield.   They could cause all kinds of problems with that.  Nania could be a run/pass threat once Wells gets rid of the ball.  We need to pull out the stops on this team and get a win here.  It is getting late in the season and wins are becoming more valuable to the playoff committee. We still have a mathematical chance of winning the conference we just need to win all of our games on out.  Not likely but possible if we keep playin good defense.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysubigred on October 21, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
(http://www.anygivensaturday.com/signaturepics/sigpic9036_4.gif) This is why SDSU beat YSU (in the past years).. SDSU is one big a$$ physical team with a great coach.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Wick250 on October 21, 2014, 03:26:40 PM
Whoever said "Statistics are for losers" was wise.  Nonetheless, if you are looking for hope going into this game, consider a few selective stats.  These are from conference games only; SDSU has played three just like us.

YSU is 2nd in scoring defense (17 pts. per game)  SDSU is last in scoring defense (33 pts. per game)

YSU is 4th in rushing offense (185 yards per game.)  SDSU is 9th in rushing defense (196 per game)

YSU is 3rd in rushing defense (130 yards per game.)  SDSU is 9th in rushing offense (120 per game) despite the presence of Zenner.

SDSU is 1st in passing offense at 275 yards per game but only rated 6th in passing efficiency.
YSU is 7th in passing offense at 198 yards per game but rated 2nd in passing efficiency.

Of course SDSU could also cite statistics that favored them.  SDSU might have also played a harder schedule with Illinois State and UNI, although I'm not sure that UNI is any better than Western Illinois this season.

Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysubigred on October 21, 2014, 03:39:16 PM
Whoever said "Statistics are for losers" was wise.  Nonetheless, if you are looking for hope going into this game, consider a few selective stats.  These are from conference games only; SDSU has played three just like us.

YSU is 2nd in scoring defense (17 pts. per game)  SDSU is last in scoring defense (33 pts. per game)

YSU is 4th in rushing offense (185 yards per game.)  SDSU is 9th in rushing defense (196 per game)

YSU is 3rd in rushing defense (130 yards per game.)  SDSU is 9th in rushing offense (120 per game) despite the presence of Zenner.

SDSU is 1st in passing offense at 275 yards per game but only rated 6th in passing efficiency.
YSU is 7th in passing offense at 198 yards per game but rated 2nd in passing efficiency.

Of course SDSU could also cite statistics that favored them.  SDSU might have also played a harder schedule with Illinois State and UNI, although I'm not sure that UNI is any better than Western Illinois this season.

Good work Wick. Sick of paper Penguins... Lets show em' on the field  :D
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: SDSUJack on October 21, 2014, 05:36:05 PM
Whoever said "Statistics are for losers" was wise.  Nonetheless, if you are looking for hope going into this game, consider a few selective stats.  These are from conference games only; SDSU has played three just like us.

YSU is 2nd in scoring defense (17 pts. per game)  SDSU is last in scoring defense (33 pts. per game)

YSU is 4th in rushing offense (185 yards per game.)  SDSU is 9th in rushing defense (196 per game)

YSU is 3rd in rushing defense (130 yards per game.)  SDSU is 9th in rushing offense (120 per game) despite the presence of Zenner.

SDSU is 1st in passing offense at 275 yards per game but only rated 6th in passing efficiency.
YSU is 7th in passing offense at 198 yards per game but rated 2nd in passing efficiency.

Of course SDSU could also cite statistics that favored them.  SDSU might have also played a harder schedule with Illinois State and UNI, although I'm not sure that UNI is any better than Western Illinois this season.

Not sure where you got your information, mine could be wrong too but his is what I found.
http://www.mvc.org/football/stats/team-all.pdf
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: JFootball22 on October 21, 2014, 05:42:02 PM
Montgomery has never had a successful game plan vs SDSU or had success calling plays, I fully expect an assbeating
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Dmorton on October 21, 2014, 06:05:12 PM
SD St 42 YSU 28.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 21, 2014, 06:16:41 PM
SD St 42 YSU 28.
I hope you are off by that 22pt margin you had from the YSU-SIU game.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Montgomery has never had a successful game plan vs SDSU or had success calling plays, I fully expect an assbeating

You forgot to thank God he will not be hear after this year, as you always say :o
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Wick250 on October 21, 2014, 08:11:41 PM
SDSUJack,

You are using the stats from all games played.  Look in the MVFC website for "conference only" stats.  Midway through the season that starts to give more meaningful information.  That eliminates worthless data from our "money" games and from our dog games (Oshkosh for you, Butler for us.)
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: paladin on October 21, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
I have yet to see a betting line where YSU is favored.  YSU as an underdog either sucks it up and plays tough or  makes mistakes & errors and gets beat. And with more tough games to play in the MVFC, the season could be slipping away.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: SoupCity on October 21, 2014, 10:12:32 PM
SDSU 28
YSU 10

Hope I'm wrong like last week.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: SDSUJack on October 22, 2014, 12:30:29 AM
Thanks for clearing that up for me Wick.
Any 'Guin fans making the long trip to Brookings, win or loose hobo day is always a great time.  I prefer a jacks victory though. :)
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 22, 2014, 07:47:27 AM
I have yet to see a betting line where YSU is favored.  YSU as an underdog either sucks it up and plays tough or  makes mistakes & errors and gets beat. And with more tough games to play in the MVFC, the season could be slipping away.

I was surprised how we pushed SIU around.  That last drive that was like 7 minutes at the end of the game was a head turner for me.  When have we done that?  The defense played much better again, but this week will be a much tougher test.  We cannot make the mistakes we made against WIU.  We should have beaten WIU but the blunders killed us.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Spiderlegs on October 22, 2014, 11:17:02 AM
I was surprised, too.  I think the SDSU game all depends on which YSU team shows up. There's an opportunity here. Unfortunately, a loss to SDSU gives SDSU a tiebreaker advantage and probably means at best a 4th place finish for YSU given that Illinois State does not face NDSU this season. A 4th place finish will be a bubble position and means that that we would have to rely on the good graces of the selection committee. :(
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: IAA Fan on October 22, 2014, 11:28:13 AM
Power, we had 3 drives above 5-minutes each. The very first drive had me gasping at 7:53 in length. Not sure any of the Heacock teams ever did that. Have to go back to Tressel for one that long.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 22, 2014, 11:30:49 AM
Power, we had 3 drives above 5-minutes each. The very first drive had me gasping at 7:53 in length. Not sure any of the Heacock teams ever did that. Have to go back to Tressel for one that long.

Maybe I got it mixed up, but yes the 7 minute drive was outstanding.  I think we punched it in too.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: JackJD on October 22, 2014, 11:32:09 AM
Here's a short "Q & A" with SDSU's coach from the Sioux Falls Argus Leader newspaper (not a lot of substance but a point or two that may be of some interest):
http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/south-dakota-state-university/2014/10/21/first-pitch-qa-sdsus-john-stiegelmeier/17701775/

The Argus Leader will be giving increasing coverage to Saturday's game as the week winds down.

For many of us old timers (I guess that's what I've become), playing Youngstown is a big deal.  When I attended SDSU, we played YSU quarterbacked by Ron Jaworski and those teams and YSU's tradition and football reputation attracted a lot of attention. 

I hope some YSU fans make the trek for Hobo Day, one of the most unique homecomings in America.  Safe travels! 

Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: IAA Fan on October 22, 2014, 12:18:20 PM
Power, we had 3 drives above 5-minutes each. The very first drive had me gasping at 7:53 in length. Not sure any of the Heacock teams ever did that. Have to go back to Tressel for one that long.

Maybe I got it mixed up, but yes the 7 minute drive was outstanding.  I think we punched it in too.

No you are right Power ...the last drive was 7-minutes as well & we took the knee. Another thing of beauty.

Yes we did punch in that first one ...unlike the previous week, which ended up with a 3-pointer and I think cost us the game. Any time we can drive the length of the field early, we need to score 6. Later in the game, I may not make the same decision, but I would have gone for it on fourth against WIU. It was less than a yard. I kind of feel that a team stopping us on downs ...or holding us to 3-points is the same thing early in a game (in terms of motivation for the other team). What do you think?

Do not underestimate the effectiveness of Wells going under center
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 22, 2014, 01:03:10 PM
Later in the game, I may not make the same decision, but I would have gone for it on fourth against WIU. It was less than a yard. I kind of feel that a team stopping us on downs ...or holding us to 3-points is the same thing early in a game (in terms of motivation for the other team).

You forgot about the false start penalty on third down.  It was 3rd and 2 at the 5 when the penalty made it 3rd and 7.  Nania was then sacked for a 1 yard loss setting up 4th and 8.  That 5 yard penalty was costly.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 22, 2014, 01:07:46 PM
Power, we had 3 drives above 5-minutes each. The very first drive had me gasping at 7:53 in length. Not sure any of the Heacock teams ever did that. Have to go back to Tressel for one that long.

Maybe I got it mixed up, but yes the 7 minute drive was outstanding.  I think we punched it in too.

No you are right Power ...the last drive was 7-minutes as well & we took the knee. Another thing of beauty.

Yes we did punch in that first one ...unlike the previous week, which ended up with a 3-pointer and I think cost us the game. Any time we can drive the length of the field early, we need to score 6. Later in the game, I may not make the same decision, but I would have gone for it on fourth against WIU. It was less than a yard. I kind of feel that a team stopping us on downs ...or holding us to 3-points is the same thing early in a game (in terms of motivation for the other team). What do you think?

Do not underestimate the effectiveness of Wells going under center

I think that you have to be very careful making a 4th and 1 call.  Many factors would go into my decision, but I would have a card with my criteria ready in a game and I would have my grad assistants tracking it so I would be ready for the call.  I personally believe that you punt it and pin them back and get field position, and the defense has not shown us the ability to hold anyone until now. We had a relapse against WIU, but I feel like we can play well enough.  Just need to get better consistency and play every down.

We demonstrated the ability to have a "championship drive" on offense in the 4th quarter.  I hope the kids learned something from that.  I agree that Wells was a big factor, but we were also throwing the ball when necessary too.  Unlike several previous games where we sit on a lead.  Their defense had to respect our passing ability and as long as we demonstrated that we were going to use it they had to defend it.   We ended the game in dominating fashion.   
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: IAA Fan on October 22, 2014, 01:44:13 PM
Sorry. I meant Wells being under center, as opposed to the shotgun. It does not seem as though we go under center as much with Dante taking the snaps. Then again, his legs help him there.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: DavedS on October 22, 2014, 02:40:20 PM
I was surprised, too.  I think the SDSU game all depends on which YSU team shows up. There's an opportunity here. Unfortunately, a loss to SDSU gives SDSU a tiebreaker advantage and probably means at best a 4th place finish for YSU given that Illinois State does not face NDSU this season. A 4th place finish will be a bubble position and means that that we would have to rely on the good graces of the selection committee. :(
Agreed--bottom line is what YSU team shows up.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Pita on October 22, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
Fifth year we can't do road trips.  A VERY bitter pill to swallow.  Those who will be there, cheer loudly enough for me (that's a big order).  We wish the team the best, go for it!  Toasting to you in the comforts of our home....
Wish we were there!!!!!  Happy we are STILL here!

GO PENGUINS
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 22, 2014, 06:49:08 PM
Sorry. I meant Wells being under center, as opposed to the shotgun. It does not seem as though we go under center as much with Dante taking the snaps. Then again, his legs help him there.

I don't like the read option with Wells. He is not suited to run the ball and his ball handling skills leave a little to be desired at this point.   We cannot have those costly mistake so this game this is a better opponent yet again.  Hopefully they line the HB or FB up next to him so he can serve as an extra blocker and as the outlet guy.  However it seems to me that when we try to play all of that powerball we outsmart ourselves.   Maybe the right approach is to air it out on them with our deadly accurate qb.  I don't know what to expect.   I felt like we thought WIU was going to be tougher and played the game close to the vest and then we couldn't get the mojo back when we needed it.  I thought last week we had a much better game plan.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Lets_Talk on October 22, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
I'm going to pick SDSU to win, and hope the opposite happens.

SDSU 52
YSU 50

4 Overtimes, and in 4th OT, YSU fails to convert the 2pt PAT
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: JackJD on October 22, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
Here's the history of the series (SDSU leads 10-5)

Home team listed second

 1942: YSU 14, SDSU 0

 1968: SDSU 23, YSU 20
 1969: YSU 17, SDSU 16

 1972: YSU 22, SDSU 34
 1973: SDSU 26, YSU 6
 1974: YSU 35, SDSU 21
 1975: SDSU 38, YSU 21
 1979 D II PLAYOFF GAME AT YSU: SDSU 7, YSU 50 (Ouch!)

 In the modern era, here are the results:
 2007: SDSU 17, YSU 23
 2008: YSU 7, SDSU 40
 2009: SDSU 17, YSU 3
 2010: YSU 20, SDSU 30
 2011: SDSU 35, YSU 28
 2012: YSU 28, SDSU 41
 2013: SDSU 42, YSU 13 
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Dmorton on October 22, 2014, 10:17:30 PM
Valley, if you read my previous post, I said YSU could not continue to make the same special teams and mental errorss they mkae every game and expect to win in this conference. Well! they still had a punt blocked.  That is not going to fly against SD St.  I want YSU to win, but I'm being realistic. The mistakes continue every game, nothing has been cleaned up.  That's why I posted the scores I did!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Dmorton on October 23, 2014, 04:54:56 AM
Again, I would like for YSU to win every game, but that can't happen if we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot with mental errors and special teams mistakes.  I hope the defense plays their best game of the season Saturday, and we avoid the mental mistakes we've had in past games.  This is a huge game that we need for a playoff run. Ths may be the most important game of the Wofford era!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: HappyPenguin on October 23, 2014, 08:07:15 AM
Here's the history of the series (SDSU leads 10-5)

 In the modern era, here are the results:
 2007: SDSU 17, YSU 23
 2008: YSU 7, SDSU 40
 2009: SDSU 17, YSU 3
 2010: YSU 20, SDSU 30
 2011: SDSU 35, YSU 28
 2012: YSU 28, SDSU 41
 2013: SDSU 42, YSU 13

Well I can certainly spot a trend when I see it. Until we prove we can stop a big time back I don't like our chances. The only thing that stopped the starter from SIU was injury.

35-20 SDSU. Hobos, winos, derilicts, transients and vagabonds all run wild in Brookings later on.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysubigred on October 23, 2014, 08:42:27 AM
Fifth year we can't do road trips.  A VERY bitter pill to swallow.  Those who will be there, cheer loudly enough for me (that's a big order).  We wish the team the best, go for it!  Toasting to you in the comforts of our home....
Wish we were there!!!!!  Happy we are STILL here!

GO PENGUINS

I hope all is well with you and Ray. We really miss you guys and the "OLD" road crew. Just not the same anymore  :-X
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 23, 2014, 12:37:25 PM
I hope Sumner gets healthy, but I'm glad he is not playing Saturday.  He lit the Guins up the last three years, and I wouldn't give YSU much of a chance this year either if he were playing.  With him out, I give YSU a 50-50 chance.  Their backup QB has been putting some yardage, but he's thrown 5 picks the last two games.  YSU wins 31-28
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ScarletRook on October 23, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
Is it true that our punter hurt his knee practicing on grass Wednesday?
We need to be bulldogs to take care of the hobos.
GO GUINS
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 23, 2014, 01:55:53 PM
Is it true that our punter hurt his knee practicing on grass Wednesday?
We need to be bulldogs to take care of the hobos.
GO GUINS

Yep, Cejudo is injured. Unsure of his status for saturday. Could be bad news......
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysubigred on October 23, 2014, 02:24:16 PM
Is it true that our punter hurt his knee practicing on grass Wednesday?
We need to be bulldogs to take care of the hobos.
GO GUINS

Yep, Cejudo is injured. Unsure of his status for saturday. Could be bad news......

Yikes!! Love his kicking ability (xp, fg, and ko) but hopefully YSU has a back up that can get the ball off his toe in under a minute on the punt  ::)
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: paladin on October 23, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
This game I had as a loss in my Pre-season projection of a 7-5 record. I'll say Hobos 35-21.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: MrGuin on October 23, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Quote
Yikes!! Love his kicking ability (xp, fg, and ko) but hopefully YSU has a back up that can get the ball off his toe in under a minute on the punt

I also heard he was injured... Actually two of the three punt blocks were not his fault, those were caused by missed blocking assignments, he never had a chance.  The "Butt Punt" was an obvious error by Cejudo. Lets hope he can go, the back ups are back ups for a reason.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysubigred on October 23, 2014, 02:47:12 PM
Yikes!! Love his kicking ability (xp, fg, and ko) but hopefully YSU has a back up that can get the ball off his toe in under a minute on the punt

I also heard he was injured... Actually two of the three punt blocks were not his fault, those were caused by missed blocking assignments, he never had a chance.  The "Butt Punt" was an obvious error by Cejudo. Lets hope he can go, the back ups are back ups for a reason.

Butt punt was the only one I seen LOL.. Just seen the 3 blocked punts (on stats sheet) and found it odd..
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 23, 2014, 02:49:13 PM
Is it true that our punter hurt his knee practicing on grass Wednesday?
We need to be bulldogs to take care of the hobos.
GO GUINS

Yep, Cejudo is injured. Unsure of his status for saturday. Could be bad news......

Yikes!! Love his kicking ability (xp, fg, and ko) but hopefully YSU has a back up that can get the ball off his toe in under a minute on the punt  ::)

Backup punter is the true freshman Nick Sheely from Austintown Fitch who is redshirting.... Bad situation right here guys.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: IAA Fan on October 23, 2014, 02:56:25 PM
I would imagine that the back-up kicker is the young McFadden ...I think he red-shirted last season.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: lakesbison on October 23, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
Limit Zenner Win Game.  there you go, youre welcome.

YSU 27
SDSU 21

book it danno.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 23, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
Limit Zenner Win Game.  there you go, youre welcome.

YSU 27
SDSU 21

book it danno.


They throw those short slant routespecially to the tight ends and WR's.  Gives out defense fits.  Not going to be that easy for us.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Pita on October 23, 2014, 05:23:05 PM
Big red...Ray and I are very well, save and except for his bad legs...he chased me too long in his younger years, haha.  How we wish we could turn the clock back about 20 years.  We did have wonderful away games.  I so enjoyed being "the toast mistress".  Golden memories!!!!!

GO PENGUINS
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Dmorton on October 23, 2014, 06:48:41 PM
The bottom line is punts got blocked-three times?  Clean it up!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: DavedS on October 23, 2014, 06:55:10 PM
He posted on Twitter about 15minutes ago that he should be ready for Saturday. :)
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Karl Hungus on October 23, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
Good luck stopping Zenner.  The info. on AOL was A-1 :o, "The Best  Running Back You Never Heard Of." They said ,as we know he is a real prospect to play on Sunday.  Plus as they said he is a pre- med student. Danger Will Robinson !!!!!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 23, 2014, 09:33:23 PM
SDSU is also breaking ground on their new stadium at halftime of this Saturday's game. The game is sold out already, hobo day. Our boys better come ready to play!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: IAA Fan on October 24, 2014, 09:57:04 AM
SDSU is also breaking ground on their new stadium at halftime of this Saturday's game. The game is sold out already, hobo day. Our boys better come ready to play!

Right on the money 05. Is not Hobo day their homecoming as well?

I remember last year that Zenner had an injury in the second half & we had even more trouble with Gandy. Then 2-years ago, we had the best of Zenner, Gandy had about 10-rushes for negative yardage, but our unsuspecting D (all in the box) was torched by the pass. I suspect that Zenner was hurt that game as well.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: SDSUJack on October 24, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
SDSU is also breaking ground on their new stadium at halftime of this Saturday's game. The game is sold out already, hobo day. Our boys better come ready to play!

Right on the money 05. Is not Hobo day their homecoming as well?

I remember last year that Zenner had an injury in the second half & we had even more trouble with Gandy. Then 2-years ago, we had the best of Zenner, Gandy had about 10-rushes for negative yardage, but our unsuspecting D (all in the box) was torched by the pass. I suspect that Zenner was hurt that game as well.

Gandy has since moved to 4th on the depth chart, started the season 3rd.  To my knowledge he suffered a minor injury earlier in the season, and has not regained his spot, been talk of his lack of motivation the last couple of weeks, and thats a possible reason for his decreasing role.  If ZZ doesn't get all of the carries it is likely you will see Brady Mingarelli who is a Redshirt-Freshman, averaging roughly 6 carries game and 30 yards per game.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 25, 2014, 08:21:30 AM
I just watched their game against UNI and listened to their coaches show.  Here are my takeaways;

They have a really good receiver and a really good TE that they go to all the time in the passing game.  They run a lot of quick inside slants to the TE and the WR......the ones that cause us all kinds of problems.

They are going to try to pressure our young QB.  they want to get him running for his life (that's what their HC said).  They are working on their pass rush as extra emphasis.  They will also try to strip the ball and force turnovers.  They do not like where they stand on turnover margin and said it will cost them a game if it continues so this is another point of emphasis this week for them.  They are big and physical on the OL.

I think they will try to run a trick play or 2 on us this game.  They mentioned that we play a straight 3 deep or man coverage and our approach is bring us what you've got.  They will look at alignment and exploit it.  They will also run a sideline route with the TE and WR.  They also said we will have a lot of hats near the LOS.  They are concerned about Derek Rivers.  They are going to try to exploit our LB alignment. 

I expect them to run that slant with some success.  They will run plays based on our defensive secondary alignment.  Also they are rotating Zenner and his back-up is very good as well.  We will certainly have our hands full.

Based on what I hear this is what they will try to game plan for:

If they catch us in man coverage they will try to run the ball because they believe that Zenner only needs a seam and he can make one guy miss and take it to the house.  If we line up in a 3 deep they will pass it over the middle.

Their head coach said YSU has improved tremendously on defense.  But that could be coaches speak too.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 25, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
We will need to hold on to the ball and avoid getting stripped

I would like to see us jump in front of one of those slants that they will run.

Need to get some pressure on their qb.  Easier said than done.

Need to gang tackle and stay assignment sound.

Hunter will need to get rid of the ball.  If we can hit them with some down field passes we will force them to stay spread out on defense. This balance will be critical.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: IAA Fan on October 25, 2014, 10:05:51 AM
Power, do you think this is a situation where good use of Nania could work for us? Mix it up a bit.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 25, 2014, 10:07:46 AM
Time of possession and long, sustained drives like last week will be key. No turnovers and we can win this thing!

GO YSU!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Spiderlegs on October 25, 2014, 10:10:09 AM
Great takeaways from your watching, penguinpower.  The SDSU coaches comments make sense. History shows us that

(1) YSU has problems defending slants.
(2) Ruiz has fumblitis. Usually we tolerate this because he gets so many yards to offset his errors.
(3) We fall for trick plays. Always. Unfortunately, our field smarts aren't too good.
(4) Hunter is inexperienced.

With regard to (4), Hunter has shown a lot of cool so far.  Assuming the OL can do its job, I am hoping they blitz and he remains calm--that would leave Williams, Berassa, and Stubbs open one-on-one. This and containment of Zenner will be the key to the game.

YSU defense has improved. There's now sometimes a legitimate pass rush, and third downs are now sometimes contested.  The LBs are now playing like LBs--last year they were positioned too far behind the line. Occasionally a DB jumps the route and interferes with or even intercepts the pass.

The SDSU coach forgot our fair play policy.  If we get a big lead, we slow down the pace and do lots of three-and-outs because our ethics require that we give our opponents a chance to catch up. Lots of teams have benefited from this.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 25, 2014, 10:26:34 AM
Power, do you think this is a situation where good use of Nania could work for us? Mix it up a bit.

UNI runs a 2 QB system this year. SDSU had a different call depending who was in. They were misaligned one time and still made the play to stop their qb.  I don't think it will make much of a difference.   I think we need to stretch them vertically.   They specifically said they were aware of our jet sweep and how we like to challenge the edge.  I think they will play up in the box and get pressure on the qb and try to shut down the run.

If we protect hunter and can go deep we will change their whole game plan and this will help our running game
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 25, 2014, 10:33:49 AM
Great takeaways from your watching, penguinpower.  The SDSU coaches comments make sense. History shows us that

(1) YSU has problems defending slants.
(2) Ruiz has fumblitis. Usually we tolerate this because he gets so many yards to offset his errors.
(3) We fall for trick plays. Always. Unfortunately, our field smarts aren't too good.
(4) Hunter is inexperienced.

With regard to (4), Hunter has shown a lot of cool so far.  Assuming the OL can do its job, I am hoping they blitz and he remains calm--that would leave Williams, Berassa, and Stubbs open one-on-one. This and containment of Zenner will be the key to the game.

YSU defense has improved. There's now sometimes a legitimate pass rush, and third downs are now sometimes contested.  The LBs are now playing like LBs--last year they were positioned too far behind the line. Occasionally a DB jumps the route and interferes with or even intercepts the pass.

The SDSU coach forgot our fair play policy.  If we get a big lead, we slow down the pace and do lots of three-and-outs because our ethics require that we give our opponents a chance to catch up. Lots of teams have benefited from this.

I agree. We will need to put a full back in the backfield to help protect if we can't man-up with their DL.  This will buy some time to get our wide receivers open. I think we have the advantage there with our length on their secondary.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 25, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
WR Christian Bryan out today with a concussion.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: seanbryan3 on October 25, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
Its not a full blown concussion. He had his impact test earliar this week.. Didnt score as well as they would like. Held out for more so precaution reasons and protocol. So from the way he sounded to my dad and I, its a mild concussion. Should be full go again next week.

We got this today, today we will take down SDSU!!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 25, 2014, 02:53:26 PM
Its not a full blown concussion. He had his impact test earliar this week.. Didnt score as well as they would like. Held out for more so precaution reasons and protocol. So from the way he sounded to my dad and I, its a mild concussion. Should be full go again next week.

We got this today, today we will take down SDSU!!

Good to hear!
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 25, 2014, 03:09:00 PM
3rd and 1 and our LB's are 4 yards back from the LOS..... Wow.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: guinpen on October 25, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
As I recall they have manhandled us the past couple of years, if that continues then it will be a long day. If we man up to them then I like our chances.

Well we manned up
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: DavedS on October 25, 2014, 09:31:03 PM
Wins over SIU and SDSU prove that we can win the big games---the team does seem a lot more confident now.Many of our starters are Freshmen and Sophomores so the future is looking brighter.Sure hope there is no let down against South Dakota.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: penguinpower on October 25, 2014, 09:58:08 PM
We proved that we can beat the best.  No turnovers.  Flat out won an away game in a very hostile environment against one of the best teams in the conference.  This was not a fluke like the NDSU game a few years ago. This was a battle and we flat out beat the hell out of them.   We beat them up front on both sides.  About time. We need to repeat and get even better
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Spiderlegs on October 25, 2014, 10:04:59 PM
The play calling at the end was still a bit too conservative, but we got away with it.  Wells doesn't surprise me that much. My question is why have the D and the OL suddenly become so effective? What changed? A team that learns from its mistakes and grows over the season is something new in the W. era.  Hard to believe that we are seeing this.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: DoubleE on October 25, 2014, 10:40:08 PM
Wins over SIU and SDSU prove that we can win the big games---the team does seem a lot more confident now.Many of our starters are Freshmen and Sophomores so the future is looking brighter.Sure hope there is no let down against South Dakota.

That SIU win not looking so impressive (see what they are doing vs ISUb right now)
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: Wick250 on October 25, 2014, 10:53:43 PM
To amplify Power's suggestion that we beat them up front on both sides of the line, consider these stats:

SDSU ran 84 offensive plays to our 56, BUT:

We averaged a staggering 7.5 yards per play; they attained only 5.5
We rushed for 5.6 yards per play; they got only 3.3
We passed for 9.5 yards per attempt; they made only 7.8

Defense was rarely out of position against Zenner.  He just ran through us several times, as great backs do.

I will take officials like this every game.  They let the linemen slug it out all day.  Sure they missed holding calls (on both sides) but letting the teams play made for an enjoyable game.



Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysubigred on October 25, 2014, 11:25:29 PM
Wow just wow!! The only negative I came away with was Mondays practice will have to consist of tackling drills! Overall very solid on both sides of the ball. Joey is a weapon with that punt. Freshman QB with ice cold nerves ~ I like him  ;) 3 of the last 4 games against top 20 teams... Go .500 on the road playoff bound especially "IF" we get a "W" against NDSU or ISUr. 
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 25, 2014, 11:44:41 PM
Wow just wow!! The only negative I came away with was Mondays practice will have to consist of tackling drills! Overall very solid on both sides of the ball. Joey is a weapon with that punt. Freshman QB with ice cold nerves ~ I like him  ;) 3 of the last 4 games against top 20 teams... Go .500 on the road playoff bound especially "IF" we get a "W" against NDSU or ISUr.
Illinois State is beatable. We shillacked them last year as well. Roberson is a good qb and all for them, but three straight weeks now have they trailed into the 4th. Beat USD convincingly before then though.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: seanbryan3 on October 27, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
I agree ValleyTalk.
Title: Re: SDSUU...thoughts
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 30, 2014, 01:06:18 PM
Was really nice to see the defense get a stop on the final drive.  A very good team win.