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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: Wick250 on October 12, 2014, 12:34:42 PM
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Last evening marked the end of Eric Wolford's attempt to be a head coach at the collegiate level. We won't win more than two more games and the poor record, coupled with low attendance for the remaining home games, will force Tressel to enact the buyout clause. And making a major sports-related move is something that I am sure that Tressel hoped to avoid for a least a few years.
So in what direction do we turn? Would it not be best to hire a successful head coach from the ranks of the lower scholarship divisions? No more on-the-job training that might never succeed. And Wolford is the poster boy for that. Hire someone who can utilize the Watts and the high assistant coach salaries to our advantage. Also something at which Wolford failed miserably.
The national media loves to trash Tressel, but he is nearly universally respected within the coaching profession. I have confidence that he will use his network to secure a replacement who can take full advantage of our many strengths. Who better to find the "next Tressel" that the original Tressel.
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We need a defensive minded coach who understands how to recruit and develop players at this level. The defense under this clown has been nothing short of laughable. He talks so much about how we need to have FBS caliber players to win in this league but yet we have players who wouldn't start at some high school programs. We also need someone who can put together a staff and have consistency. Three DC's in Wolford's tenure and Montgomery as OC who coaches the 2nd half like he has a 5 TD lead. This season is lost and I don't see us winning another game on this schedule outside of MAYBE South Dakota.
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How about Mark Mangino?
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He needs to be a good recruiter and preferably a power run, emphasis on both offensive and defensive line type coach
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I agree it should be Bear Mangino
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i have no issue with Mark Mangino, he won at kansas so he can win at YSU, not the biggest fan of his offensive style but to each their own
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The problem will be the PAY CUT you'll want a major assistant to take for the Head job here. YSU should NOT be paying a coach much more than they pay Wolf now. It just gets too expensive.
I hear some want Fickel at OSU. He makes double at OSU. Mangino makes way more there than here. MAC assistant possible.
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Mangino is not what YSU needs. He had 1 good season at Kansas and I'm sure that recruiting will bring up his past aggression issues against players. Iowa State is 2-4 and 2nd from last in the league with total offensive. You need to get a young guy in there. I'm not sure why anyone would think Mangino as a head coach here.
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Mangino, no thanks!
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Always good to have a defensive minded head coach!
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As long as YSUs future is in the MVFC I think the next coach must come from there too....
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Funny to me that they loose one game and the world is coming to an end... This one is on the players as much as the coaching staff. This was an easy win with out the BS mistakes. You can blame all you want but the base game plan was not that bad... Execution on the other hand........
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Funny to me that they loose one game and the world is coming to an end... This one is on the players as much as the coaching staff. This was an easy win with out the BS mistakes. You can blame all you want but the base game plan was not that bad... Execution on the other hand........
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During a recent interview, coach talked about how he has discussed with his colleagues how to prepare throughout the week for opponents. He mentioned in the past Friday was a light day. However, this year he changed his philosophy and they go "hard" on Fridays. So if it isnt his fault or the coaches who can we blame? The players and coaches have changed but the results havent. He is the captain of this ship and if he cant get these young men to focus, perform,execute and win give the keys to someone else. Just like Wolf there are many young coaches looking to make a name for themselves and YSU is as good as any to do that.
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Last evening marked the end of Eric Wolford's attempt to be a head coach at the collegiate level. We won't win more than two more games and the poor record, coupled with low attendance for the remaining home games, will force Tressel to enact the buyout clause. And making a major sports-related move is something that I am sure that Tressel hoped to avoid for a least a few years.
So in what direction do we turn? Would it not be best to hire a successful head coach from the ranks of the lower scholarship divisions? No more on-the-job training that might never succeed. And Wolford is the poster boy for that. Hire someone who can utilize the Watts and the high assistant coach salaries to our advantage. Also something at which Wolford failed miserably.
The national media loves to trash Tressel, but he is nearly universally respected within the coaching profession. I have confidence that he will use his network to secure a replacement who can take full advantage of our many strengths. Who better to find the "next Tressel" that the original Tressel.
Hmmm... An IQ higher than 21 ;D
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This thread is the reason why a lot of people in the tailgate lots make fun of this board and don't post
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This thread is ridiculous and shows where Mr. Wick250's priorities are this season. Clearly could care less about YSU winning and more with Wolford getting canned.
4-2 with 6 more games to go and you guys have given up on this team and this season. Pathetic.
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Well whether people like the coaching staff or not, the season is 6 games old, and still have a lot of football to play, and the staff will not be going anywhere during the season, and thats the truth.
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Well Valley, would you like to really know what my priorities are? My priorities are not puking away a playoff spot by losing to a garbage Missouri State team in 2011. And my priorities are not going "0 for October" including blowing a three touchdown lead to Illinois State in 2012. And my priorities are not quitting on the field and getting embarrassed by SDSU with a playoff spot on the line in 2013. And my priorities are not losing to a mediocre Western Illinois team in 2014 that effectively ended the season. Funny how the towering figure of the great coach Eric Wolford stands at the center of all my priorities.
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People who root against their own home teams are the worst. I've said numerous times; if you don't root for ysu you are the enemy. Those on the board know who they are.
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Well Valley, would you like to really know what my priorities are? My priorities are not puking away a playoff spot by losing to a garbage Missouri State team in 2011. And my priorities are not going "0 for October" including blowing a three touchdown lead to Illinois State in 2012. And my priorities are not quitting on the field and getting embarrassed by SDSU with a playoff spot on the line in 2013. And my priorities are not losing to a mediocre Western Illinois team in 2014 that effectively ended the season. Funny how the towering figure of the great coach Eric Wolford stands at the center of all my priorities.
Re-read that comment.... "Not losing to a medicare Western Illinois team in 2014 that effectively ended the season."
WOW. They have played 6 games!!! The season's over guys. Let's just shut it down, pack it up and go home according to everyone on this board. This conference is up for grabs big time, but yet you want to call the season over. Pitiful....
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I understand Wick250's pessimism. On one hand, it's just one game. One the other hand, W. teams don't seem to learn from their mistakes.
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It seems like dominant defense and o-line play result in success, at this and any level.
The guy we have now is thought of as a very good o-line coach, and I would have to agree for the most part. Our QB's had very nice pockets in the last game and we commit few penalties there.
The guy we had before him was a record setting D-coordinator.
What other avenue would you like to explore with this thread? We arent going to get an accomplished head coach unless he comes from a lower level, and I doubt many would be satisfied with that. Salary dictates that.
I guess I don't get the point of this discussion half way through the season.
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I thought the IL loss was more devastating than the WIU loss. IL was a must win as it is a weaker team than several MVFC schools.
8 wins may get YSU in the playoffs. 7 wins...no way. After the WIU we can only afford one more non-NDSU loss....out of 5 MVFC games. Of those 5 remaining non-NDSU MVFC games, I would say three are better than WIU (ISUb, and ISUr (on the road) and SDSU (also on the road)).
It is an understatement to say it would be a remarkable feat with the road ahead to be in the post-season.
When Wolford was first hired, he had a press conference where he said that national championships are the expectation at YSU. He is correct, and he has had 5 years to deliver.
I have no problems with fans looking at the future of YSU FB, and who will lead it. Cheerleading is fine, but there's also reality to deal with.
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Very well said Nation...very well said.
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It's fine to be realistic, but not okay to root again the red and white. I've given so much to this university. It literally means everything to me. And the people who openly root against us and claim to be true fans. Private message me. Meet me face to face this weekend. Tell me that you're openly rooting against ysu to lose. Bet you won't! My private message inbox is open. Fire away!
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Mark Snyder? I realize his record was bad at Miami but ..Don Treadwell?
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It's fine to be realistic, but not okay to root again the red and white. I've given so much to this university. It literally means everything to me. And the people who openly root against us and claim to be true fans. Private message me. Meet me face to face this weekend. Tell me that you're openly rooting against ysu to lose. Bet you won't! My private message inbox is open. Fire away!
I also agree that Nation's post was spot on.
I don't think anyone is really rooting against YSU at all, or maybe I'm just missing something. Everyone here wants YSU to succeed, but I think people are getting frustrated with this coaching staff. Wolf has always talked a big game and hasn't delivered anything except expectations he's failed to meet. The guy is a very strong recruiter, no doubt... But lets be honest, he's horrible at coaching.
When he got here, he was this pompous guy that seemed to think that turning this program would be some easy task. Every preseason, he's talking about his expectations. Yet.. Every year, he's found some way to blow it.
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There are certain members on this board openly cheering against ysu. Dan asked me not to attack them on the board. I've posted a private message to one. He coward and never replied. Stop hiding behind the computer. If you root against ysu you are the enemy. Wick250 I'm staring right at you.
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JJ I think we can all guess the two individuals that you are referring to. I think in both cases it is that they want to be 'right', more that they have any distaste for YSU. There is one member who is pretty open about what school he roots for and that is fine ...he is a solid poster. I am glad you do not attack them anymore, as that can frustrate people more than anything they may say. We have about 100 or so regulars on here and they all seem to know each others personalities. You cannot attack Wick250, he is no different than many of us ...he is just more vocal about it. There is frustration after a loss ...this is place to vent. I have never seen him as YSU-hater.
I am not here to trash W , or any of the coaches. I will say one thing ...he is not as great of a recruiter as most of you think he is. Maybe it is because the team has that mass set of players losses, or whatever, and we never settled down to a point where he can refine his selections; however, I used to be able to see Coach H & T's recruits and put them in a needed position. I do not see that much with W. Too many athletes & not enough skill.
To me "Athletes" are exceptionally-promising players that a staff brings in for special teams and hope he works himself into something. They should be few and far between.
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I don't know why anyone would root against YSU. While I may not agree with the coaching or the game strategy I will always root for YSU to win! I've been watching every game I can online because I haven't been able to see a game live in many years. You local guys are lucky. I'd be at every game if I could! fb fb fb
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I don't know why anyone would root against YSU. While I may not agree with the coaching or the game strategy I will always root for YSU to win! I've been watching every game I can online because I haven't been able to see a game live in many years. You local guys are lucky. I'd be at every game if I could! fb fb fb
This post is the definition of a fan!! Great post kforbs.
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I am not a big fan of this coaching staff but I still watch or listen to every second of every game regardless of the score because I grew up around YSU football. I went to every home game from 1997 to 2008 only missing four. I've been out of state for six years now and envy everyone who is local and gets to go to the games. I drove 7 hours to the Pitt game in 2012 and 6 hours to the South Dakota State game last season and will be making the trip to Illinois State this season regardless of the weather or our record.
Beat Southern Illinois
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This post is in defense of Wick250. I do not know Wick250 personally, but from my years of reading this board, and from what I have been able to learn about Wick250, this poster is NOT the kind of person who wants ANY team at YSU to lose. And, this is regardless of whether or not Wick250 likes/dislikes the coach or members of the coaching staff.
This is year #5 for Wolford. He came in talking brash. He said many, many, many negative things about the former coaching staff, and also about players recruited by the former coaching staff. Several of those players he made negative comments about PUBLICLY were players that were still on the team when Wolford took over. That is much different from a coach that comes in, and when asked about how how long it will take to get "his/her" players into the program, says "my players are sitting right here in the press conference."
This is also a coach who in his first season, made a ridiculous comment about YSU not being respected because of being predicted to finish at the bottom of the MVFC, and then made a comment about how disrespecting people where he comes from can get a person shot. YSU then proceeded to win a grand total of ONE game in the MFVC that season.
The myriad ways in which YSU has lost games under Wolford is highly impressive. It seems they find new and more creative ways to lose every season. The ONLY reason Wolford has not been fired is because YSU lacks the resources to buy ought his contract.
Fans at Montana wanted Bobby Hauck fired after his 7th season, even though Montana won/tied for the Big Sky Title all 7 years, made the playoffs all 7 years, and played in the NC game 3 times. His problem? Failing to win the NC games. A 7year record of 80-17, 47-6 in the Big Sky, 3 NC Title Games and Montana fans wanted him fired after the 09 season because Montana lost in the NC game for the 2nd year in a row. Montana was 14-0 entering the NC game in 09. Hacuk left on his own to go to UNLV.
Mike Sewak was HC at Georgia Southern from 02-05. His teams compiled a record of 35-14, and made the playoffs 3 of 4 years. The only non playoff team went 7-4 in 2003. Ga Southern rebounded and made the playoffs in 04 and 05, yet Sewak was FIRED after Ga Southern lost in the 1st round of the playoffs in both 04 and 05.
K.C. Keeler went 86-52 in 11 season at Delaware(02-12). His teams made the FCS playoffs in 03,04,07 and 10. UD won the FCS Title in 03, the ONLY time UD has won an FCS Championship. 2003 was also the first time UD made it to the FCS Title game since 1982. UD lost in the FCS Championship game in 07(App State) and 10(EWU)..UD had a playoff record of 11-3 under Keeler.... UD won 3 conference titles... Keeler was fired after the 2012 season, when Delaware finished 5-6, after going 7-4 in 2011 and missing the playoffs. UD had 3 losing seasons in 11 years under Keeler.
UD did make the playoffs 7 times in the final 11 years under Tubby Raymond. But, they NEVER advanced to the Title game in any of those 7 appearances, let alone win an NC. The best the Bluehens did was Semi-Final appearances in 92,97 and 00.
All 3 of these schools are examples of programs that YSU was as good as, or better from 89-90. ALL 3 fired HC's that head lead the team to MULTIPLE playoff seasons. And, some people want to deem Wick250 and others as people who want YSU to lose just so Wolford will possibly be replaced. That is absurd. Meanwhile, several people on this board think it is premature to start discussing possible replacements for Wolford. Seriously?
Face it, YSU showed many of the trademarks of the previous seasons under Wolford in the loss to WIU. Inability to get key stops on defense... Blowing a halftime lead.. Having an opposing QB at the bottom of the MVFC statistically look like a possible First Team MVFC selection... costly penalties, including THREE Unsportsmanlike penalties that resulted in 2 players being ejected...Questionable use of timeouts and clock management... An opponent that ran a vanilla offense score 30 points... a home loss to a team that will likely finish in the bottom half of the MVFC standings... highly questionable play calling on offense...(others can add to the list if they choose). Add all of this up, and it is hard to see YSU making the playoffs.
The ONLY team that YSU will play in the final 6 games that is worse the MSU and WIU is South Dakota. I understand being optimistic, but it is very, very, very hard to see how YSU can go 4-2 in the final 6 games. That is what it will take for YSU to finish 8-4/5-3 and have ANY chance at a playoff spot. The argument that this was just one bad game is not valid at this point in Wolford's tenure and what we have all witnessed the previous 4 years, plus the 3 real games of this year..
Loss @ Illinois(3-4/0-3)
Ugly win @ MSU(3-3/0-2)
Loss at home to WIU(3-4/1-2..wins over Valpo, Drake and at YSU)
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I agree, I would love to not have to fly home and watch my brother and the Penguins on Saturdays. Being able to drive a couple minutes to an hour to watch them play would be awesome.
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Last evening marked the end of Eric Wolford's attempt to be a head coach at the collegiate level. We won't win more than two more games and the poor record, coupled with low attendance for the remaining home games, will force Tressel to enact the buyout clause. And making a major sports-related move is something that I am sure that Tressel hoped to avoid for a least a few years.
So in what direction do we turn? Would it not be best to hire a successful head coach from the ranks of the lower scholarship divisions? No more on-the-job training that might never succeed. And Wolford is the poster boy for that. Hire someone who can utilize the Watts and the high assistant coach salaries to our advantage. Also something at which Wolford failed miserably.
The national media loves to trash Tressel, but he is nearly universally respected within the coaching profession. I have confidence that he will use his network to secure a replacement who can take full advantage of our many strengths. Who better to find the "next Tressel" that the original Tressel.
Wick I completely agree with your post and fell the exact same way. Well said as usual.
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I don't think anyone is rooting against YSU, just unhappy that the program continues to make the same stupid mistakes repeatedly.
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one who doesn't allow Shane Montgomery to step foot on campus ever again?
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This thread is the reason why a lot of people in the tailgate lots make fun of this board and don't post
Didnt you run off and cry like a baby when you didnt get your way and threaten to leave? you should keep that promise. you already made a big enough fool out of yourself
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Rick Shepas would still welcome the opportunity.
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DJ DURKIN
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Durkin makes $500K at Florida. He is not coming here for 1/2 of his present salary. Keep dreaming!
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I notice everyone seems to be mentioning names of people with ties to either YSU or the Ytown area. Here is something to consider.
Eric Wolford is a graduate of Ursuline High School. Taking the YSU job was a homecoming of sorts. To date, his attempts to return the program to a consistent playoff team have not come to fruition, and there are legitimate reasons to believe YSU is headed toward yet another non playoff season.
Jon Heacock is a native of Beloit, and graduate of West Branch High School. He was defensive backs coach at YSU in 1991, and then DC from 92-96 and again in 2000. His teams played hard, the program did not have much in the way of issues off the field, but YSU only made the playoffs 1 time in 9 years.
Jim Tressel had NO direct ties to the Youngstown area or to YSU. While he was a native of Ohio, and attended college at BW, very few people in the Ytown area had heard of him when he was hired. The first season(2-9) was ugly, except for that AWESOME win over Akron in the last game of the season. The 2nd season, YSU won the OVC Title and made the playoffs. The 3rd season was another WTF season. I still remember YSU using 3 QB's on the same possession at times. And, the result was a 4-7 record, including losses to Kent and Akron.
Then, in 1989, YSU made the playoffs, won a 1st round game at EKU, and the rest as they say is history.
My point, hiring a person with ties to Youngstown or YSU may not be the way to go. YSU has tried that with Heacock and Wolford, and the result has been 1 trip to the playoffs in 13 years. Unless Wolford is able to channel Jim Tressel circa 1989, it could be 1 playoff appearance in 14 years at the end of this season.
The way for YSU to go should a change be made might be with a current FCS Head Coach who is having success at a program in a lower tier conference, or a current D2 Head Coach with a history of success. YSU would be a step up for coach's like this, and even with a lower salary than Wolford is making, it would likely be an increase in pay. I'm thinking paying a new HC(if one is hired) no more than $150,000 per year in their initial contract. There can be incentives for winning the MVFC, making the playoffs, advancing to the Championship Game, Winning a Championship.
$150,000 plus all the benefits would be an increase in compensation for HC's in low level FCS conferences and HC's at the D2 level. The facilities at YSU, especially WATTS would be a huge draw for potential coach's. So would having an opportunity to coach in the MVFC, which is consistently one of the Top 1-3 conferences in FCS. And, this new coach would also have the possibility of building NEW traditions of success at YSU.
Just something to consider.
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Talk,
I agree completely. A Mahoning Valley pedigree is irrelevant. The problem with Heacock and Wolford was their lack of head coaching experience. Tressel grew into the position; these two did not. That is a gamble we just can not afford to take.
We are so angry and frustrated that we forget just how attractive this job could be to a young, ambitious lower division HEAD coach. More money, plenty of funds to hire quality assistants, a quality stadium, a state-of-the-art training facility, tradition, overwhelming media attention (compared to lower divisions,) and location in a quality recruiting zone. Ohio and Western Pennsylvania might have fallen behind Florida, California, and Texas but this sure ain't the Dakotas. Oh, and add the chance to work for coaching icon Jim Tressel.
Hey, maybe we will get a miracle, hold serve in the remaining home games, and actually beat a quality opponent on the road. But if the administration and trustees are not thinking ahead like you are, they are not doing their jobs.
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There are certain members on this board openly cheering against ysu. Dan asked me not to attack them on the board. I've posted a private message to one. He coward and never replied. Stop hiding behind the computer. If you root against ysu you are the enemy. Wick250 I'm staring right at you.
Wick250 has been posting on this board for as long as I've been following it, and I've never been under the impression that he is rooting against the Guins. I believe he even follows the Olympic sports quite closely. He, like many others on here, has grown frustrated that we haven't been able to attend a playoff game since 2006. The longest such streak since 1980-1986.
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JJ I have read every post you have put on this board. You are an angry, angry SOB. Not a single post has been positive. Not a single post has offered anything of substance or benefit. You must still be in high school, are still naïve, or you have an IQ in the dim range. I hardly believe you know anyone or anything inside the YSU program. Hell I don't think you are even a fan of YSU. As a matter of fact I believe that your contributions bring down the collective IQ of everyone that posts on this board. You juvenile responses have no facts, data or insight. I am not trying to insult you but calling it how I see it. look at your own posts. Seriously I don't believe you are a fan.
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Sticks and stones penguin power. Pm me your cell phone number. We can meet in he tailgate lot Saturday. Whatever you have to say to me, you can say in person.
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Sticks and stones penguin power. Pm me your cell phone number. We can meet in he tailgate lot Saturday. Whatever you have to say to me, you can say in person.
Over a beer I hope.
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Iaafan why is pp's post insulting me alowed to stay up on this board? Although I'm not offended, not care what someone says behind the anonimity of the internet, you must be consistent with your mod abilities. If I can't say those things about paladin, pp shouldn't be alowed to say them about me. That is unless he says it in person.
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Can't we all just get along?
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Iaafan why is pp's post insulting me alowed to stay up on this board? Although I'm not offended, not care what someone says behind the anonimity of the internet, you must be consistent with your mod abilities. If I can't say those things about paladin, pp shouldn't be alowed to say them about me. That is unless he says it in person.
Message sent
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Good luck with that, penguinpower. That's about all I'm going to say.
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Good luck with that, penguinpower. That's about all I'm going to say.
He shouldn't attack Wick. I respect an appreciate his insight. He can call me if he wishes. I am willing to understand him.
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Good luck with that, penguinpower. That's about all I'm going to say.
He shouldn't attack Wick. I respect an appreciate his insight. He can call me if he wishes. I am willing to understand him.
Your earlier assessment was spot-on. ... Made the same offer multiple times. Never took me up on them. It's easier to hide behind email and a message board ID and take potshots from there.
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I take back everything I've ever said about PenguinPower a+++++ family he has. All differences on my end are set aside! uncle!!!
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Check your inbox
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This thread is ridiculous and shows where Mr. Wick250's priorities are this season. Clearly could care less about YSU winning and more with Wolford getting canned.
4-2 with 6 more games to go and you guys have given up on this team and this season. Pathetic.
I agree that everything is still in front of this team! There is a lot of young talent on this team and many are contributing on Saturdays already! Enough about the coaching staff, let them coach, and let us be fans, wait let us be supportive fans! I don't agree with everything they do but I am sure that they are making those decisions with the best interest of the players, the University and the program as a whole! My mother always said if you don't have anything nice to say then shutup!
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I got it jj. Check your inbox. We're cool
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Yeah, might want to sit this one Ed
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But I made popcorn. It's fun watching everyone question everyone else's fanhood.
Oh, the drama. Kind of like Steelers message boards late Sunday afternoon.
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I actually didn't hate your one article on Traficant. Congrats, you're now above Bertram.
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That is almost a compliment! Thanks!
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What I would most like to see is this coaching staff succeed. I have no love or hate for any of them but feel they have been as inadequate in their performance as they blame their players. Yes, every offensive play is designed to score if the players execute as they should and every defensive play is to stop that. Reality is it doesn't happen that way.
Coaching changes don't always solve the problems.....see Michigan just to name one big program that has the money to bring in top talent. All of the possible new coaches mentioned bring no guarantee they can/will succeed here anymore than Wolf. Wolford was a highly respected O-line coach and I don't think anyone can predict how well anyone will do as a head coach at a certain program.
So many times it seems as if Wolford has turned things around only to lay an egg. Some of that burden needs to be shouldered by the players for their actions and attitude - not talent level. Many of those issues have been addressed by the coaching staff, but each action comes with a price.
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To follow up on ScarletRook, it would also be nice to have a coach who doesn't blame his problems on fans not cheering loud enough.
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Scarlet, let me start by saying that your comment was very, very good. I couldn't have put that into words any better. So, thank you for that. I appreciated it and think you hit the nail on head for me.
"So many times it seems as if Wolford has turned things around only to lay an egg. Some of that burden needs to be shouldered by the players for their actions and attitude - not talent level. Many of those issues have been addressed by the coaching staff, but each action comes with a price."
Could it be that the players no longer "buy in" to the coaching staff's direction? Has Wolford maybe lost the locker room? Or maybe starting to lose?
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Spiderlegs
Well from the games I have attended they don't (see NDSU) - but that is not the teams biggest problem.
I was at the game last Saturday and the area I sat in was empty by halftime and I don't think it was because my deodorant wasn't working.
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Could it be that the players no longer "buy in" to the coaching staff's direction? Has Wolford maybe lost the locker room? Or maybe starting to lose?
SoupCity:
Seanbryan3 could probably answer that question better than me, but it wouldn't be fair to him to ask.
I see problems among the team, coaches and university and "a house divided cannot stand."
I cannot speak for any player, but whether you buy into the program or not - you should play for pride; it will help your working skills later in life. That said, this is some of what I have observed over the past few years.
* Off-field problems with top players that have resulted in their removal. I give kudo's to the coaching staff for being able to do that when they know the cost to them.
* On-field problems among players when the game gets tight. This is just pure selfishness.
(Reminds me of the Cooper years at OSU - and I am not here to bash him)
I truly believe that team discipline is the major factor that makes NDSU better than their opponents.
* Players too busy partying the night before (legally or ileaglly) to be ready to go on Saturday. [Disclaimer: I have no proof of this other than conversations with some University police.]
* On field problems among coaches - although I have not seen it much THIS year.
* Coaches not meaning what they say to players - which may be the problem of buying into the program.
* In-house laundry being aired publicly. We all like to know what is going on because after a while, some of the players start to feel like family, but there are things that are just none of the public's business.
Fan loyalty is a disgrace. We can argue about where the fault lies. I think the Athletic Department does a very insufficient job of promoting games and the fans do an insufficient job of supporting the players. The University does little to make YSU more than a commuter college so many students don't hang around the weekend waiting for a sporting event.
I think many people here have great ideas and I wish we could somehow work together to solve problems instead of fighting over things we cannot control.
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New Coaches seem to be working out fine. When money is talking...and it always is...we have an assistant who has National Championship and a great recruiting resume. Why not promote from within? Fits the bill:
Came from program with few off the field issues
Positive relationship with other coaches formerly worked with
Tells players upfront what to expect on and off the field and sticks to it
Private
History of discipline
Likeablility from fans
Relatability to college students
Probably missed more but just responding to ScarletRook.
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New Coaches seem to be working out fine. When money is talking...and it always is
Heard that same statement when Wolford was hired.
Not here to argue any of what has been said.
Still have games to play this season and hope I can make the trip today.
Backs to the wall and underdogs - should be an inspiration.
LETS GO GUINS!
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New Coaches seem to be working out fine. When money is talking...and it always is...we have an assistant who has National Championship and a great recruiting resume. Why not promote from within? Fits the bill:
Came from program with few off the field issues
Positive relationship with other coaches formerly worked with
Tells players upfront what to expect on and off the field and sticks to it
Private
History of discipline
Likeablility from fans
Relatability to college students
Probably missed more but just responding to ScarletRook.
Who is it?
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Well I nominate this for dumbest thread of the year!
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Well I nominate this for dumbest thread of the year!
This is my favorite part and it is already wrong!
Last evening marked the end of Eric Wolford's attempt to be a head coach at the collegiate level. We won't win more than two more games
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LOL
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To quote Lee Corso, "not so fast my friend".
Yes, things look rosy now. Things also looked rosy last year when YSU was 8-1.
Things looked rosy in 2012 after YSU beat NDSU on the road, and only needed to beat last place Missouri State at home to make the playoffs.
I'm NOT saying YSU is going to go 1-3 or 0-4 in the final 4 games. At the same time, there is no guarantee this will not happen. As fo today, the final 3 games this year are more difficult than the final 3 games of last year. 2 of the games are on the road to teams that are undefeated and have played all full scholarship schools. The 3rd is at home against Indy State(5-3/2-2), which won at FBS Ball State and also has wins over Liberty(5-3), UNI(4-4) and at SIU(5-4). Their losses are at Indiana, at NDSU and at ISU, and they did not play any partial or non scholarship teams.
Also, if YSU were to finish 8-4 or better, make the playoffs and win 1-2 games in the playoffs, there might be some FBS teams interested in hiring Wolford. I'm not sure Wolford is the type to turn done more money and an opportunity to be a HC of an FBS school, even if it means going to a place with little likelihood of success. There will be multiple non power 5 schools looking for new HC's in the off-season. Wolford would have a winning record at YSU, and back-to-back seasons of 8 or more wins, plus a trip to the playoffs. FBS schools have offered or hired FCS coaches with similar or less success than Wolford would have at YSU if the team gets to the playoffs this year, whether or not they win a playoff game.
David Bailiff was hired by Rice after the 2006 season. He was HC at Texas State(then an FCS program) and had a 3 year record of 21-15.... 5-6, 11-3(FCS semi-finals), 5-6
Pete Lembo was 35-22 at Elon from 06-10, with 1 trip to FCS playoffs in 2009. His final season at Elon, the team went 6-5. He was then hired to be the HC at Ball State.... Lembo did go 44-14 in 5 seasons(01-05) at Lehigh prior to Elon, with playoff appearances in 01 and 04
Chris Creighton went 42-22 in 6 years(08-13) at Drake(Pioneer League) and was hired by Eastern Michigan as HC for the 2014 season.
Trent Miles was 20-36 in 5 years at Indy State(08-12)... He was hired by new FBS program Georgia State after the 2012 season
Todd Berry went 24-24 in 2 years at ISU(96-99), with trips to the playoffs in each of his final 2 seasons... ISU was 3-8 and 2-9 in his first 2 seasons... He was hired by Army for the 2000 season, went 5-35 in 4 years and was fired. He is now HC at Louisiana Monroe, and has a record of 26-30(2010-present)
Ron Carragher was 44-22 in 6 years at San Diego(Pioneer League), and then hired in 2013 by San Jose State
So, what started as a thread based on Wolford being fired at the end of the season, may well end up being a thread for Wolford's replacement when he bolts YSU if able to get the team to the playoffs this season. And, YSU finishing 7-5 is still a realistic possibility, though I hope they finish with 8-10 regular season wins and make the playoffs.
Rich Ellerson went 56-34 in 8 seasons at Cal-Poly(01-08), then was hired by Army in 2009, and fired after the 2011 season with a 3 year record of 20-41
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Let's put this thread into perspective for most of the the emotional fans that lack critical thinking skills. Wolford has been here for several years already and we have not made the playoffs yet. John Heacock was here from 2001 to 2009 and made the playoffs once in 2006. He also had bubble teams.
When Wolford came in he was arrogant, but I think he has been somewhat humbled. When he arrived he told everyone how he coached in the SEC and how you "can't win the Indianapolis 500 driving a tractor". We are now 4-5 years into the contract and his record looks a lot like Heacock's to me. Yet Wolford has had way better resources as far as money and he was afforded an indoor practice facility, new locker room, and I think he got a new weight room too. Wolford's coaches are paid significantly more and have a bigger recruiting budget too.
When you have demonstrated that you will lose some games you should win, and the toughest part of your schedule lies ahead and you have a track record of blowing big games and lack a signature win (until this last weekend) then the thread and the topic that Wick250 pointed out are very relevant. Nothing is as good as it seems or bad as it seems but somewhere in between.
I think that Wick250 brought up a compelling topic for conversation and he does not deserve to be belittled for his opinion. Quite frankly I am a fan but I've been around long enough to know that our run in the 1990's may never ever be repeated. Fan expectations are high but we have 2,000 in the stands. Tailgate passes are not sold out. The coaches salaries are higher and the data says we won't win our last 3 games. So when the coach, who for all intents and purposes, is on the hot seat, loses a game to an interior team such as WIU with one of the the best crowds of the season to that point.....how could you not think he's in trouble. The most difficult part of the schedule lies ahead of us just like last year. And just like the past 2 years did we get it done? The answer is NO.
Does that mean I am not a fan or that Wick250 is not a fan? He'll no. I'm excited to see that the team is playing like a team. This is the best I've seen it under Wolford. We actually know how to play decent defense this year and that among other things seems to be different, but we won't know until the team actually gets it done.
This board is starting to go downhill because there is very little in the area of solid analysis and when people put their opinion forward they are chastised for it. I don't agree with Paladin but I respect his opinion and that needs to be upheld by everyone on this board. Otherwise it will end up with juvenile rhetoric which is already happening on a significant level. I think some apologies are owed.
It is nice that we have a fan board but we won't have a decent one without a little respect to go around. And if we don't respect each other the collective intelligence of the posting fan community will diminish. It sounds easy to do but everone has to put the effort forward with the understanding that 95% of communication is based on physical ques so you have to be extremely careful when posting with typed text to people who don't really know you.
PP
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penguinpower,
Very good post. Some people seem to have trouble understanding this is not a cheer-leading site. Nor is it a site for everyone to agree with each other. Sites like this work best when people can give their opinions, voice their displeasure, approval, and whatever else they wish to express, provided it is not an attack on a coach, administrator, student-athlete or another poster of a PERSONAL nature.
This is a board to discuss sports at a Division 1 University. If any players, coach's, administrators read this site and cannot handle criticism and frustration from fans, then they had best stay off the site. Criticism is part of the territory. We praise these same people when they do a good to outstanding job, so I have never understood the problem with being critical when the performance is below expectations? Again, as long as the criticism is confined to job performance, then it comes with being a part of a sports team at the Division 1 level. If it becomes attacks of a personal nature having nothing to do with the job at hand, that is when the line is crossed.
I also read and post on the UNLV message board. The conversations on there have very little in the way of childishness and name calling. There is disagreeing, but it is a site where people can voice their opinion, and where there is a wide range of opinions voiced. Sometimes the discussions get into somewhat heated debates, but it does not turn into personal attacks akin to those made by children in grade school.
This site has lost multiple posters who provided insight, opinions and helped in having some interesting discussions. And, with the way things are going, it would not surprise me if other people stop posting. Despite what some people might think, that would NOT be good for this board. Who wants to participate on a message/discussion board where everyone agrees with each other, and people who voice dissenting views/opinions have to deal with being called names, get deemed to be not a "true" fan, and other things that people get accused of and/or have directed at them buy a handful of people who post on this board.
Thank you again penguinpower for the well written, well thought out post.
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Critical thinking? How is saying "we won't win two more games" a critical thought? It's stupidity. And I won't stand for unintelligent posts about a football team and school that's so meaningful to me. This board lacks because of anonimity offered by it, allowing wick250 and paladin the option to post nonsense after losses.
Again, where is wick250 and paladin after a win? The first thing I did after the win was post on this board. The first thing wick and paladin do after losses is post. It tells you who truly wants to see ysu win, and who truly wants to just gloat on here and say "I was right".
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jjysuwin,
You keep talking about people posting anonymously, yet you do not post with your real name. Why is that? If you want people to use their real names, then how about being a leader and start using your real name, instead of posting in anonymity behind the name jjysuwin?
It is a fair question, given that you keep bringing up people posting with user names being a problem. And, saying other people post with user names instead of their real names is not an acceptable answer. My first name and 1st intial of my last name are at the bottom of every post. No, it is not my full name, but it is more than you provide, and I'm not complaining that people posting with user names in anonimity is the problem with this board. Just saying ??? ::)
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Its simple. I do not call out players, coaches or administrators, and say they need fired. Whenever I have a complaint, I go directly to YSU. I do not post anonymous messages.
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Critical thinking? How is saying "we won't win two more games" a critical thought? It's stupidity. And I won't stand for unintelligent posts about a football team and school that's so meaningful to me. This board lacks because of anonimity offered by it, allowing wick250 and paladin the option to post nonsense after losses.
Again, where is wick250 and paladin after a win? The first thing I did after the win was post on this board. The first thing wick and paladin do after losses is post. It tells you who truly wants to see ysu win, and who truly wants to just gloat on here and say "I was right".
My point is that he is entitled to his opinion without ridicule. I think there are several skeptics and he is allowed to be one of those.
I will tell you that there has been a significant change in how the team plays this year. Outside of the WIU game, the defense has been outstanding. We will go far if we keep playing like this. But be honest that Kravitz and Tracey were not nearly as good as Bryant and the defense suffered for it.
There is no way we win at SDSU without Wells at the helm either. His ability to throw down field forced then to respect our run game. I wouldn't want to defend us with him back there.
I am not interested in gloating, but rather discussion. Most of the competing schools have constant information coming out around the football program. I feel starved for it. We don't have enough information at all.
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People are alowed to say whatever they want. But if they post a controversial opinion, then they better be able to back it up when they're wrong. All I am saying is I'd respect wick250's and paladin 100 times more if they owned up to what they said, when they're wrong. But I'll stand by what I said, that they'd rather is lose to be proven right, than for us to win and they be proven wrong.
Case and point, they are nowhere to be found after a win. Wtf!!??
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Paladin is still out searching for the Juco quarterback we so desperately needed 😅
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PALADIN IS HERE !! Computer blew out on Friday. Just got back online. I have lots of catching up to do with all my sites I'm on. This one seems to be butthurt for "some" reason. Must have missed me. ;D ;D ;D
For those who this applies to ( and you know who you are) -- KISS MY AZZ
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PALADIN IS HERE !! Computer blew out on Friday. Just got back online. I have lots of catching up to do with all my sites I'm on. This one seems to be butthurt for "some" reason. Must have missed me. ;D ;D ;D
For those who this applies to ( and you know who you are) -- KISS MY AZZ
Welcome back punk ass biotch ;)
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Let's talk about a new basketball coach instead ;)
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PALADIN IS HERE !! Computer blew out on Friday. Just got back online. I have lots of catching up to do with all my sites I'm on. This one seems to be butthurt for "some" reason. Must have missed me. ;D ;D ;D
For those who this applies to ( and you know who you are) -- KISS MY AZZ
Nice excuse, No one's buying! You've been exposed! Go away!
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Let's talk about a new basketball coach instead ;)
You're trying to get IP to start posting again, aren't you? ;D
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Let's talk about a new basketball coach instead ;)
You're trying to get IP to start posting again, aren't you? ;D
C'mon back IP! Miss ya brotha!
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Hope we dont see this topic blow-up in another hour...........................
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Bottom line is we have a great coaching staff and we should be happy with what they have done. Let's play wait and see on the last few games. I'm a fan. I think we will come out on top! fb
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As long as Wolf is the head coach the motto should be: THERES ALWAYS NEXT YEAR!
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I would like a head coach that does not let the team come out like they have smoked a bowl at halftime.. I would like a head coach that is has a group of assistant coaches that grab kids by the facemask and get in their face and if they don't like it..quit...we have a secondary that is afraid to come up and hit someone and knock them into tomorrow...we need a goon in the secondary...a Pixley, Smiley, Roberts, Statzer...we are weak at secondary!!
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This thread is getting rather stale
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I've got to believe we are getting a new special teams coach next year, even if nothing else changes.
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would like a head coach that does not let the team come out like they have smoked a bowl at halftime.. I would like a head coach that is has a group of assistant coaches that grab kids by the facemask and get in their face and if they don't like it..quit...we have a secondary that is afraid to come up and hit someone and knock them into tomorrow...we need a goon in the secondary...a Pixley, Smiley, Roberts, Statzer...we are weak at secondary!!
Pete I understand your frustration, but...
If anything, I think some of the coaches smoked the bowl at halftime.
Ask Coach Mangino about grabbing a kid by the face mask and getting in their face.
We need big hits in the secondary for sure, but with the new rules protecting a receiver a goon squad will get you ejected. Of course playing 10+ yards off the receiver makes it hard to put on any big hits.
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Lets get it started up again!!!!
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Say goodbye to the Eric Wolford era in Youngstown.
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I hope today was the nail in the coffin for Wolford and his circus. This guy is a complete and utter joke. Go back to being a run game coordinator.
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To be successful they must hire someone with experience in the MVFC.... No tOSU assistants or homer......
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Wick's post that was started with the loss to WIU appears to have some wisdom behind it.
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To be successful they must hire someone with experience in the MVFC.... No tOSU assistants or homer......
That's a tremendous statement and one I completely agree with. Similar to women's basketball with Barnes from UWGB.
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That's why we should go after Joe Glenn from South Dakota. He coaches up inferior talent; it would be nice to see what he could do with better players
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Power,
You know how desperately I wanted to be wrong about this. But anybody with a certain level of analytical ability could see this coming from a mile away. Any coach who is utterly incapable of responding to half time adjustments is not suitable for the head position.
17,
I agree. No homer. I would prefer somebody with zero ties to this community, just like Barnes. We need that fresh set of eyes. I think that Barnes' strength goes beyond his ties to the Horizon League standard-bearer. He was a successful head coach at the D2 level before he served as an assistant at Michigan (I think) and then UWGB. Would like to see similar experience levels from the next football coach.
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This thread is getting rather stale
After today's game, I have changed my mind
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Somebody NOT from Youngstown or ANY Youngstown ties please.... New fresh set of eyes.
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I feel like we are so close to being a good team. Its frustrating how we dont do the little things...game management..keeping our composure ..using more than one page of the playbook...when we fall apart its a trainwreck. The life has been sucked out of Stambaugh and the fan base. The program since it has joined this league has regressed to the point that no team fears us and even the officals dont bring their A game. The titles we have won have been wasted and now whats left of our tradition and our program is unrecogizable. We have to rethink if the league is a good fit...travel rivalrys ..recruiting ..etc.. I think we need a complete overhaul and housecleaning.
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And please, PLEASE no one with ties to Y-town or OSU. Let's see this program start with a fresh face.
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Been told Wolf is going to resign sometime after N.D.S.U. game. Going to join Spurrier.
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Honestly, how can Strollo and Tressel justify keeping Wolford after these final 3 games? YSU is making the NDSU QB look like the QB from Baylor. On top of that, Indy State is losing 27-12 in 4th qtr at WIU.
This is the 5th season for Wolford. He got pretty much everything he wanted. Pay close to or double that of Heacock. Higher pay for assistants. WATTS..upgrades to everything behind the scenes that needed upgraded. The guy can in talking brash from Day #1. Trashing Heacock from Day 1. Trashing the players still in program who were recruited by Heacock. That included players such as Kurt Hess, Jelani Barassa and Jamaine Cook. He made blanket statements about the ENTIRE ROSTER that he inherited.
Wolford constantly bashes players in the media. Get's mad at people for not going to games, then blames fans for making too much noise when YSU is on defense. Blames media for things that are not fault of media. Every year, attendance decreases. Attendance, actual in the stadium, is back to where it was the first few years under Tressel. Back when an FCS program was in it's infancy and being built.
If Wolford is the man he talks himself up to be, he will resign after this game. Wolford will have no problem finding an assistant coaching position at an FBS school. Between contacts he has himself, and those of Tressel, he will land at an FBS school as a position coach at worst. It's been 5 years. This is just not working. Cannot be much fun for anyone involved, including Wolford himself. So, why continue the misery and think things will be different "next year".
Who knows, maybe 5-10 years from now, Wolf can give being an HC a shot at a different school? He would not be the first person to have mediocre results in first time as HC, get fired/resign, go back to being an assistant, and then eventually get hired someplace else as HC. I do not know Wolford as a person. Only know what I see of him as HC. And, I truly believe the best thing for all involved is for Wolford to move on to another school. There might even be lower tier FCS schools that would hire Wolford as HC. And, again, at worst, he gets hired as a position coach at an FBS school in a "Power 5" Conference.
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I want someone who is a good teacher, who can teach the players how to get to the next level. Yelling at them when they make mistakes is not good teaching.
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Someone who can actually coach up players and make them better in the 4 years they are here! Not just recruit the good athletes and waste their talent...
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Brian Wright is in the mix!
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Hey what's up clowns?
This is my first post this year. I have to say I haven't missed any of your predictions, pejoratives and pissed-offedness (yes that is a word)
YSU football has sunk to levels of Thiel or Hiram but without the attendance. Good Lord and WTF?
Bye-bye Wolf. I can't even say "nice try".
I would like to end this with a message to Paladin------Dude, your boy Obama has f***ed up this country as bad as Wolfie has f***ed up YSU football :P
To those of you who are going to complain about me putting a political line in there-----GO f*** YOURSELVES.
See y'all next year.
HL
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Lecter............. how are you ? Someone told me you were dead !.. I guess that's because no one saw you with free tickets this year !
As always, your party ruined the country that everyone can't fix ! ;D
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Good to see that you are still out there HL.
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LOL
Paladin You nailed it. I am the KING of free tickets.
p.s. I have morphed into a Libertarian. Started smoking weed, no longer practice safe sex (or any sex), gonna buy a gun and get a Harley.
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Lecter............... you'd make a great Hell's Angel...............lol
Gotta have lots of sex to be a Hell's Angel however, lol
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Good to see that you are still out there HL.
TY Guinpen
Good to be here.
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NICE TO SEE YOU BACK HANNIBAL!!!!
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NICE TO SEE YOU BACK HANNIBAL!!!!
Thanks Mort,
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Welcome Back HLECter!
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Welp.... 5 loss Indiana State makes it in... Quality OOC wins for them.
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Hannon just said on sports wrap that he, personally, thinks Wolford is gone.
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Just read that Terry Allen (Missouri St) will be let go. Possibility for YSU??? Or at least on the list??
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is he an improvement ? not sure
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Didn't he have a really good run an UNI??? He certainly didn't have the talent at Missouri St that he would have/get at YSU.
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Didn't he have a really good run an UNI??? He certainly didn't have the talent at Missouri St that he would have/get at YSU.
he did 20 years ago
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Missouri State is (and has been) loaded with talent and that University put "tons" of money into the program. Allen could not get the job done. Would be a terrible fit here.
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"It is easier to instill fear than develop passion!"
Who ever is coaching next season - PLEASE develop passion!
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I have a comment that seriously needs to be thought about. YSU has invested a ton of money and time into Wolford. I know that coache's are measured on win/loss record. I know that the football team has not done well in November the last 2 seasons. I know that I hate the mistakes we make in big and small games. I know that I would like to see a dominating defense. I know what I want to see as well as everyone else on this board, but the decision to go in a different direction may be short sighted. Here are my reasons why I think this way.
First of all I think that Wolford has grown tremendously since he was first hired. I believe he regrets some of the things that he said when he was first hired. He has improved the team every year record wise except this year. However this team was better all the way around than all of his previous teams regardless of the results. The conference has improved this year but we didn't improve as fast as the conference and that may be because we have so many young players. All in all the defense has improved and it is not where we want it nor is it where Wolford wants it (and he has mention this). Tressel is here and may be able to provide guidance. Considering the growth in all areas where do you stand?
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I have a comment that seriously needs to be thought about. YSU has invested a ton of money and time into Wolford. I know that coache's are measured on win/loss record. I know that the football team has not done well in November the last 2 seasons. I know that I hate the mistakes we make in big and small games. I know that I would like to see a dominating defense. I know what I want to see as well as everyone else on this board, but the decision to go in a different direction may be short sighted. Here are my reasons why I think this way.
First of all I think that Wolford has grown tremendously since he was first hired. I believe he regrets some of the things that he said when he was first hired. He has improved the team every year record wise except this year. However this team was better all the way around than all of his previous teams regardless of the results. The conference has improved this year but we didn't improve as fast as the conference and that may be because we have so many young players. All in all the defense has improved and it is not where we want it nor is it where Wolford wants it (and he has mention this). Tressel is here and may be able to provide guidance. Considering the growth in all areas where do you stand?
I could build a case for him staying one more year, but the fans are voting with their feet. Public relations is part of his job, and he is losing that war.
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5 years is long enough. Why believe "next year" will be the year YSU turns the corner, when we have been hearing that since 2011? YSU is losing fans left and right. People who buy tickets, pay for concessions at games, pay to park. If you have a Facebook account, check out the comments on the YSU Football Alumni page. I have been to the page a few times in the past, and the overwhelming consensus was former players do not like Wolford. I've also read people post here on this board if Wolford is kept on, they will not attend any more games. And, there was last weeks article by Scalzo, where he mentioned receiving multiple e-mails and comments from people who say they have stopped going to games, and will not return again until Wolford is replaced.
As far as I'm concerned, the so called "weenie games" and the "money game" do not count in Wolf's record. The exception is the win in 2012 at PITT. Losses in the "money game" ought not count against the coach, and the so called "weenie games out not count in a true evaluation of on field success. Especially with YSU not even playing the best teams from the NEC or Pioneer in most of these OOC games at home. So, here is the record over the past 5 years, with this method:
2010... 1-7
2011... 4-4
2012... 5-4
2013 ... 5-3
2014... 4-4
OVERALL: 19-23
Wolford did not inherit a program that was a perennial playoff participant like Heacock, but he also did not inherit a program like Indiana State. 5 years is plenty of time. Wolford has changed assistant coaches several times. Players have come and gone. Yet, the team keeps making the same mistakes year after year after year. Yes, players play the game, but there are obviously things being done that result in the kind of mistakes that keep a team from going to the playoffs, and team from finding a way each of the past 4 years to miss the playoffs by one game.
The MVFC has gotten stronger with the addition of NDSU and SDSU. But, only NDSU has been dominant, and that is just these past 4 seasons. Heacock was 2-0 against NDSU. Other programs now appear to be doing what is needed to raise their level of play. Indy State is in the playoffs for 1st time since the 80's, and beat YSU in Youngstown. NDSU did not waltz through the MVFC this season. They beat WIU 17-10, by scoring 14pts in the 4th qtr. Lost 23-3 at UNI. Trailed SDSU 10-6 at halftime. Early in the 3rd qtr, SIU only trailed 17-10. Then, YSU, with nothing to lose and everything to gain, went into the Fargo Dome and was never in the game. 31-0 before YSU finally scored with about 5 minutes left in 3rd qtr. Worse, it was obvious the game was over after the 1st qtr in terms of which team was going to win.
YSU lost at home to WIU and Indy State this year. Win just 1 of those games, and YSU is in the playoffs. Last year, there was the loss at UNI. In 2012, it was a home loss to SIU during the 0-4 October. In 2011, it was another home loss, in the final game of the year against last place Missouri State. Then there was the 4 game losing streak in 2012, and ending the season on 3 game losing streaks in 2013 and 2014.