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Title: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 13, 2014, 10:03:58 PM
We need to get healthy and in a HURRY! Only being 3 games in, this worries me. Especially because these guys are a big part of our season.....

Guys I noticed that are out:

LB Kevon Caffey
DB Eric Thompson
DB Nate Dortch
WR Andrew Williams
WR Michael Wheary

Also noticed D'Alesio went out with an ankle injury.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 13, 2014, 11:34:25 PM
Thank God we have three weeks to get these guys back, including Durden if USF hurries up, before conference play.

This Missouri State game has a huge resemblance to SIU opener last year. MSU is very good, they just expanded their stadium (had 18.5k today - record), and Wolford has yet to beat them. A win there would be enormous, but let's worry about St. Francis first.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 15, 2014, 01:56:13 PM
S Tre Moore left with what looked to be a significant knee injury. A real shame he had a couple pass break-ups and made some solid tackles. One of the few who can it seems.

Until we get a whiff of pressure from the front 4 it wouldn't matter if we had 4 Deion Sanders clones back there. They cant cover for 5-6 seconds every play.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Wick250 on September 15, 2014, 03:25:27 PM
HappyPenguin is right on the mark.  The absence of anything resembling a pass rush, even against a non-scholarship team, makes it impossible to contain a passing game.  Not to excuse the obviously substandard performance of our secondary.  It is the worst indictment of Wolford's failure to balance defense and offense in his recruiting.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ScarletRook on September 15, 2014, 03:54:06 PM
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S Tre Moore left with what looked to be a significant knee injury.

I don't understand why you leave starters in when the game is well out of hand and the clock is in our favor.
All you are asking for is injuries, which we cannot afford, and is what we got.

Heard Saturday that S.Zaborsky and Myers were in the dog house big time for being late for practice.  Turns out the have engineering classes that run into practice twice a week, but are not being excused for being late.  That will teach them!
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Karl Hungus on September 15, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
Tre Moore stepped up & was playing at a high level. Hope he can mend  soon.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: KilrpengWin on September 15, 2014, 05:25:02 PM
We need to get healthy and in a HURRY! Only being 3 games in, this worries me. Especially because these guys are a big part of our season.....

Guys I noticed that are out:

LB Kevon Caffey
DB Eric Thompson
DB Nate Dortch
WR Andrew Williams
WR Michael Wheary

Also noticed D'Alesio went out with an ankle injury.
D'Alesio out with an ankle injury? That's GOOD news!
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: DavedS on September 15, 2014, 06:31:49 PM
Tre Moore stepped up & was playing at a high level. Hope he can mend  soon.
Ditto--was really impressed with his sure tackles!
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: guinpen on September 15, 2014, 08:58:24 PM


I don't understand why you leave starters in when the game is well out of hand and the clock is in our favor.
All you are asking for is injuries, which we cannot afford, and is what we got.


I agree, starters should not have seen the 4th qtr last week.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Lets_Talk on September 16, 2014, 06:12:50 AM
ScarletRook,

If your post about S.Zaborsky and Myers is true, that is one more reason for me to hope this is the last year for Wolford. The primary purpose of college is ACADEMICS. I can understand the coaching stuff being frustrated if players are late to practice for any reason. But, these guys are majoring in Engineering. If I were either of them, I'd stay for the entire class and get to practice late. Again, if what you said is true, Wolford is acting like a HUGE A$$ and like the kind of coach that uses players for his gain. And, a coach like that often times has a hard time getting the players to buy in 100% to the things the coach is selling. I would deem the entire Wolford era as YSU having a team that does not appear to be buying in 100% to what the coaching staff is selling, and that is on the coach/coach's.

I'm actually impressed that Zaborsky and Myers are staying for the entire class given it is putting them in Wolford's doghouse. Tells me that these guys understand while football is important, the #1 priority is ACADEMICS and earning their degree's.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ScarletRook on September 16, 2014, 08:26:05 AM
Lets_Talk:

I heard that from a relative of Zaborsky's.  (The name on a Fitch shirt was the start of conversation)
Not sure if it was Wolford or Bryant that they said read them the riot act in front of the team and told them the if they expected to play, they would be at practice like everyone else and obviously they didn't want to play.  It sounds like it could have come from either coach, but my take was Bryant.

I was inquiring about Steve's previous injury and wondered how he was doing.
Take it FWIW.  What you can learn when getting coffee at half-time.

Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ScarletRook on September 16, 2014, 08:57:51 AM
Not trying for the 'beat a dead horse' category, but can anyone tell me if YSU has an academic person to help schedule classes so they don't interfere with your practices and etc. or is it a case that a field like engineering only has so many scheduled classes and you take what is available?
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ohiofootball on September 16, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
I can assure you that is not the reason those 2 are not playing. Kurt Hess missed practice for classes all the time and you can see it really affected his playing time. Sounds like these two are feeding their families a bunch of crap!
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 16, 2014, 09:57:36 AM
I can assure you that is not the reason those 2 are not playing. Kurt Hess missed practice for classes all the time and you can see it really affected his playing time. Sounds like these two are feeding their families a bunch of crap!

Yeah, I've known several players who have had to miss practice for class and were never were called out by coaches. That does not even make any sense? Something else happened.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Karl Hungus on September 16, 2014, 10:01:59 AM
YSU has a computer room for athletes with multible stations & in house tutors that help with classes , Sch. & making up work when they are on road trips.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: IAA Fan on September 16, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
Yes they have more than "a person". They have an assigned prof, a compliance department counselor and an assigned student. Now I have to speak from coach T and coach H days, but the students have that entire wing behind the varsity lockers under Stambaugh. Also, every schedule is sent directly to the coaches. Skipping class is immediately reported (assuming the proff takes attendance). Most profs are alerted when they have an athlete in their classes and they need to take attendance. This does not mean that they do. Under Tressel add/drops were not reported ..under coach H they were. I think it had to do with improvements in technology. This applies to all varsity sports
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Double ET on September 16, 2014, 12:10:32 PM
Yes they have more than "a person". They have an assigned prof, a compliance department counselor and an assigned student. Now I have to speak from coach T and coach H days, but the students have that entire wing behind the varsity lockers under Stambaugh. Also, every schedule is sent directly to the coaches. Skipping class is immediately reported (assuming the proff takes attendance). Most profs are alerted when they have an athlete in their classes and they need to take attendance. This does not mean that they do. Under Tressel add/drops were not reported ..under coach H they were. I think it had to do with improvements in technology. This applies to all varsity sports

I had several football players in my classes in the College of STEM. They were starting players and team captain. I always made provisions to make sure they do not miss practices/games. They could make up their course/laboratory works and tests. However, they rarely missed any classes.
The university and I had to track their attendance regularly. I recall, in one of my classes, one player did not show up for class on time. The captain helped me to call him up. He showed up 10 minutes later.

However, I knew of some faculty members who were not very supportive for the YSU sports programs did not make special provisions to help the student athletes when they were out of town for the competitions. But,
I had not heard of any faculty members who prohibited players to attend their scheduled practices. However, it could be possible.
We now has a Starfish system on campus. I had to report their attendance via computer monthly.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 16, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
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S Tre Moore left with what looked to be a significant knee injury.

I don't understand why you leave starters in when the game is well out of hand and the clock is in our favor.
All you are asking for is injuries, which we cannot afford, and is what we got.

I agree.  I figured all the regulars would be done after the last TD put them up by 28 with 10 minutes left, but Moore was injured with less than 5 minutes left.  Sure hope it is not serious.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Spiderlegs on September 16, 2014, 04:28:53 PM
I agree that this story sounds fishy. YSU athletic dept. takes academics more seriously than many D-I schools, and one of the benefits of W's reign is the improvement in the football team's academic performance.  I know it's hard for some of us to believe that W. does anything right, but he has been good for the academic side of things, at least so far.