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Title: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 23, 2014, 11:07:57 AM
Jimmie Kitchen, a DL has transferred from Georgia Tech to us. He was suspended indefinitely by the Yellow Jackets, reason unknown. He played sparingly and battled injuries his 3 years at Georgia Tech. Listed at 6-3, 270.

http://www.ramblinwreck.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jimmie_kitchen_756482.html
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: HappyPenguin on August 24, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
Jimmie Kitchen, a DL has transferred from Georgia Tech to us. He was suspended indefinitely by the Yellow Jackets, reason unknown. He played sparingly and battled injuries his 3 years at Georgia Tech. Listed at 6-3, 270.

http://www.ramblinwreck.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jimmie_kitchen_756482.html

Kind of mixed on this one. Definitely a need but it sounds like he may not be on the field much before something derails him.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: Wick250 on August 24, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
I echo HappyPenguin's thoughts on this kid. In today's Vindicator, he is listed already as the backup nose tackle.  Hope that this is not an act of absolute desperation on Wolford's part.

Also see that Iowa transfer Taylor is starting at middle linebacker and Miami transfer Dortch will man one corner.  Hopefully, they can make a big difference.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: paladin on August 24, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
Most of the transfers are starters or immediate back-ups. That's what you want because they are better than what you have recruited . And several are young and have years to play here.  KItchen backs up a  Senior   who missed games with injuries last year.  The transfers are  filling needs lost and creating depth where its thin.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on August 24, 2014, 03:56:29 PM
It definitely helps with depth. Especially with Zaborsky and Octavius being hurt often. I like the move
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 25, 2014, 12:06:21 PM
Anyone know Jimmie's status?  Saw him on the sidelines in sweats the past few weeks.  He didn't appear to have an injury issue.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 25, 2014, 12:55:19 PM
Anyone know Jimmie's status?  Saw him on the sidelines in sweats the past few weeks.  He didn't appear to have an injury issue.

Wolf said this week he was rounding into shape and getting acclimated with the defense. Will be playing from here on out which is good news for the DL.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 25, 2014, 03:50:58 PM
Anyone know Jimmie's status?  Saw him on the sidelines in sweats the past few weeks.  He didn't appear to have an injury issue.

Wolf said this week he was rounding into shape and getting acclimated with the defense. Will be playing from here on out which is good news for the DL.

How hard is it to learn to go straight ahead and get blocked?  8)
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: penguinpower on September 25, 2014, 06:00:05 PM
Anyone know Jimmie's status?  Saw him on the sidelines in sweats the past few weeks.  He didn't appear to have an injury issue.

Wolf said this week he was rounding into shape and getting acclimated with the defense. Will be playing from here on out which is good news for the DL.

How hard is it to learn to go straight ahead and get blocked?  8)

He may be keeping him off of game film
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: SoupCity on September 25, 2014, 10:29:23 PM
Ahhhh.....the all great "vanilla" excuse.  Which is probably the exact truth.  How dare YSU show even a quarter of the playbook on both sides of ball or better yet, a player.....shhhhhh.....we can't let anyone see him play before conference games start.

I'm so sick and tired of that damn excuse already.  The defense is not very good, it has been atrocious for 4 years now.  Trust me, a single player is not going to make that big of a difference.  The best thing YSU could do is show everyone the entire playbook, that way they may actually have something to plan for.  Instead of the typical, throw at #1 and #8 or when all else fails throw it down the middle.  Either way, your QB is going to have a BIG day.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: paladin on September 25, 2014, 11:15:40 PM
It seems that one of the great mysteries under Wolf is why some players don't play. Here is a guy who played as a Frosh at GT and quite a bit as a Soph.  But not YSU ?  There are some obvious other players that are talented but don't see the field much. Why ?
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 26, 2014, 12:05:19 AM
It seems that one of the great mysteries under Wolf is why some players don't play. Here is a guy who played as a Frosh at GT and quite a bit as a Soph.  But not YSU ?  There are some obvious other players that are talented but don't see the field much. Why ?

Travis Williams. Guy is the one of the most athletically gifted players I've seen in awhile... A senior, and he's playing special teams.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: goodnews on September 26, 2014, 01:13:04 AM
I think thats the very reason the defense under this ever changing regime lacks LEADERSHIP, CONTINUITY and any other adjective you can come up with.  This idea of playing underclassmen if the coach considers you equal is an issue in my eyes.  If you think about it you are always making the same mistakes and never grow into the position.  Clearly coaching or lack there of plays a big part in this as well.  Pick the countless LBs in the 90s and they were the leaders on the field.  They will remain nameless but there are other Seniors on the defense that under the "Wolford Rule" should clearly be displaced by underclassmen too....
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ScarletRook on September 26, 2014, 06:14:14 AM
Before we use up all of the tar and pitchforks, I believe it was said that Jimmie Kitchen still had a NCAA suspension (from Ga. Tech.) of 4 games to serve. 
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 26, 2014, 07:24:17 AM
It seems that one of the great mysteries under Wolf is why some players don't play. Here is a guy who played as a Frosh at GT and quite a bit as a Soph.  But not YSU ?  There are some obvious other players that are talented but don't see the field much. Why ?
Worth noting on the Penguin Playbook show last night on 570 WKBN that Wolford said Kitchen will be starting next week in the middle of our DL. He went onto say that Kitchen may be the best "ever" at YSU.

Him and Rivers could be a lethal duo the next few years! However, let's see how he looks before we crown him the best.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: paladin on September 26, 2014, 07:47:14 AM
Exactly, 05 !!  Travis  Williams !!   Wolf has no problem starting #1 and #8, but we have no one as good or better ??  In fact, I don't understand how #8 started all these years.

The TWO biggest reasons for losing is ineffective ( or weak) players and poor coaching. Its O.K. to fake it over the course of the weenie games, but the reality games are just about to start.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: penguinpower on September 26, 2014, 08:04:08 AM
Who leads the team in tackles this yr? I can't find that information
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 26, 2014, 10:15:13 AM
Who leads the team in tackles this yr? I can't find that information

Childs 34
Dubem 33
Kelly 23

according to mvfc official site
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 26, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
Before we use up all of the tar and pitchforks, I believe it was said that Jimmie Kitchen still had a NCAA suspension (from Ga. Tech.) of 4 games to serve.
Makes sense.  Wolf should have just come out and said that.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: IAA Fan on September 26, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
Who leads the team in tackles this yr? I can't find that information

Childs 34
Dubem 33
Kelly 23

according to mvfc official site

No surprise on Childs; everyone throws at him. Bam is a going to be a great player.

      Tackles  Sacks  Pass Defense  Fumbles  Blkd    
DEFENSIVE LEADERS  GP  Solo  Ast  Total  TFL-Yds  No-Yds  Int-Yds  BU  PD  Qbh  Rcv-Yds  FF  Kick  Saf 
1   Childs, Julius   27  34   .     .       .    .
22  Nwadiogbu, Dubem  24  33   4.0 - 12  .       . 1 - 0
40  Kelly, Jaylin   14  23   .     .    1 - 43    .
8D  D'Alesio, Donald  14  21   1.0 - 1  .       .    .
2M  Moore, Tre'   13  19   1.0 - 2  .       .    .
26  Smith, Jameel   11  18   1.0 - 3  .       .    .
59  Williams, Terrell  12   0.5 - 1  .       .    .
92  Brown, Octavius  11   1.5 - 1  .       .    .
11  Rivers, Derek    6.0 - 31   4 - 25    .    .
7W  Williams, Desmond   .     .       .    .
14  Thompson, Eric    .     .       . 1 - 0
18  Thomas, D.J.    .     .       .    .
19  Hall, Deion    .     .       .    .
15  Welch, B.J.    .     .       .    .
93  Kromah,Emmanuel   2.0 - 5   1 - 3    .    .
10  Taylor, Laron    .     .       .    .
52  Palumbo, Mike    .     .       .    .
94  Zaborsky, Steve   .     .       .    .
23  Sandidge, Sidney   .     .       .    .
27  Dortch, Nate    .     .       . 1 - 0
21  Moore, Ryan    .     .       .    .
17  Cejudo, Joey    .     .       .    .
24  Dixon, Shane    .     .       .    .
83  Rader, Kevin    .     .       .    .
43  Gibbs, Nathan    .     .       .    .
90  Myers, Eric    .     .       . 1 - 0
  Total..........  153  94  247   17 - 56  5 - 28 1 - 43 18  19  11  4 - 0
  Opponents......  160  136  296   15 - 46  4 - 24    . 12  12  2 - 0
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 26, 2014, 05:18:38 PM
Childs leads the team because he's getting thrown at so much lol. #1 and #8 are problems in the secondary and everybody knows it.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: Double ET on September 26, 2014, 08:13:48 PM
Childs leads the team because he's getting thrown at so much lol. #1 and #8 are problems in the secondary and everybody knows it.

#1 tackles the receivers after giving up 10 yards each time. No wonder he is leading the team in tackles. #8 is always either out of position or miss the tackle. Hence, his number is lower. #1 couldn't find the ball and #8 couldn't find the man.
How these guys are still starting is beyond me.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on September 26, 2014, 11:06:31 PM
Childs leads the team because he's getting thrown at so much lol. #1 and #8 are problems in the secondary and everybody knows it.

#1 tackles the receivers after giving up 10 yards each time. No wonder he is leading the team in tackles. #8 is always either out of position or miss the tackle. Hence, his number is lower. #1 couldn't find the ball and #8 couldn't find the man.
How these guys are still starting is beyond me.

Amen
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: Spiderlegs on September 27, 2014, 05:40:41 AM
I don't think what we are seeing has anything to do with the ability of the DBs. The DBs are being told to stay behind the receiver in order to avoid big gains. W. is willing to give up the 5-10 pass on the assumption that our opponents aren't able to keep this up an entire game. I don't know if this is because W. has no confidence in the DBs or he has some kind of phobia from his youth about big gains.
   
Either way, W. is running a high school defense, not a college one. In H.S. you can get away with this because most teams usually don't have enough talent at QB and ends to consistently hit short passes with light pressure. W.'s defensive strategy is good enough for the weenie games, but the better teams in the conference usually break his defenses with ease, which is why our opponents have such a high percentage of success on third downs.

It seems like the pass defense has been a little stouter in the middle this year, but it's hard to tell against the weenies. Also, if our DL from Georgia is a good pass rusher, it might be enough to alter the mix so that the soft coverage might work.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: seanbryan3 on September 28, 2014, 07:05:44 AM
If Kitchen is as good as advertised it would definitely be a nice punch on the front with him and Rivers. We will see on saturday against a tough mizz state team. If anything it does add more depth to the front.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 04, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
Kitchen did not play at all today. Interesting.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 04, 2014, 04:35:16 PM
Kitchen did not play at all today. Interesting.
He got hurt Tuesday. I posted this Thursday night. Wolf said to Hannon he may very well not play due to the injury and he didnt. Nothing to make of it.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: seanbryan3 on October 04, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Well they played a very nice defensive game today without him. I hope the kid can play soon to add more depth to this defense.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: penguinpower on October 04, 2014, 05:18:19 PM
Well they played a very nice defensive game today without him. I hope the kid can play soon to add more depth to this defense.

They played 60 minutes too.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 05, 2014, 05:47:12 AM
Kitchen did not play at all today. Interesting.
He got hurt Tuesday. I posted this Thursday night. Wolf said to Hannon he may very well not play due to the injury and he didnt. Nothing to make of it.

Wolf told Hannon in the pre game show that he was going to play. Maybe they felt he couldn't go. Hopefully next week.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: seanbryan3 on October 06, 2014, 07:27:51 AM
Well they played a very nice defensive game today without him. I hope the kid can play soon to add more depth to this defense.

They played 60 minutes too.

Your correct, the defensive played 60 minutes! It's ashame they couldn't get the goose egg, those kids deserved it.
Title: Re: DL Transfer from Georgia Tech
Post by: IAA Fan on October 06, 2014, 11:45:23 AM
Well they played a very nice defensive game today without him. I hope the kid can play soon to add more depth to this defense.

They played 60 minutes too.

Your correct, the defensive played 60 minutes! It's ashame they couldn't get the goose egg, those kids deserved it.

They sure did Sean. Although we should point out that it took 10 tries from inside the 10. 8 tries from inside the 3 to get that TD. Just a stellar stand. It is a shame they got the TD as the QB was just dumping the ball on 4th & we did not have enough bodies.