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Title: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on March 20, 2023, 09:16:23 AM
Will Dunn is the first YSU player to entered the transfer portal.  Not really surprised by this.  He was one I could see dropping down to D2 or D3. 

His PT disappeared after the Detroit home game at the end of January, and I'm pretty sure that was the game Cohill yelled at him after a turnover.  He also played the most mins in that game at 19 than he did all season.  After that he only played in 6 of the final 11 games for a total of 13 mins and did not score.   

He really improved from his freshman year to his sophomore year and even started 13 games last year.  I was hoping for more improvement this year.  He did hit 6 of his 13 3-point attempts this year.  He seemed to struggle on the defensive side this year and turned the ball over too much.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 20, 2023, 09:19:44 AM
He is from Michigan and was recruited by Ferris state and Hillsdale and I heard a rumor that Ashland was showing some interest.  Just opens up another spot for transfer portal.  Who will be next?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on March 20, 2023, 09:37:29 AM
He is from Michigan and was recruited by Ferris state and Hillsdale and I heard a rumor that Ashland was showing some interest.  Just opens up another spot for transfer portal.  Who will be next?

Sorry I started this topic before I saw you had already done one. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on March 20, 2023, 03:20:30 PM
Not a surprise.  Will's minutes went down this season and I wish him well.  He really provided a big spark in some games in the 21-22 season,  Watched him play in the Cleveland pro-am and he was really drilling the three point shot.

Noticed Garvin Clarke from Akron is in the portal.  I'm pretty sure YSU offered him out of high school and not sure if that means anything or not in 2023.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on March 20, 2023, 04:23:40 PM
Not a surprise.  Will's minutes went down this season and I wish him well.  He really provided a big spark in some games in the 21-22 season,  Watched him play in the Cleveland pro-am and he was really drilling the three point shot.

Noticed Garvin Clarke from Akron is in the portal.  I'm pretty sure YSU offered him out of high school and not sure if that means anything or not in 2023.

Dunn shot well in HS with 3 balls is not the same as in D-1. Being 6’8” in HS, I am sure almost no one could defend him on those shots. It is almost like watching 3 point shots in warm up before the game. You may be able to shoot 10 in a row, but may not be able to make one in the game with good defense.

At about the same height, he is not Akuchie or Nelson who could create the 3 point shot opportunities.

I wish him success in the future.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 20, 2023, 04:41:54 PM
 Best of luck to Will. I can tell you that the coaches are being very, very aggressive in the portal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on March 21, 2023, 12:01:09 PM
Portal is terrible. Why do  think so many schools, that barely have business being the the NCAA tourney, are upsetting good teams?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 21, 2023, 12:19:42 PM
At first i thought it was bad for the game but now i see how a team can benefit from the portal as we did this past year.   I have no problem with teams and coaches taking advantage of the portal.  Any more from YSU plan on transferring out besides Dunn?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on March 21, 2023, 12:24:42 PM
At first i thought it was bad for the game but now i see how a team can benefit from the portal as we did this past year.   I have no problem with teams and coaches taking advantage of the portal.  Any more from YSU plan on transferring out besides Dunn?

I agree with you. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on March 21, 2023, 12:30:22 PM
So you guys want to convert DI to to I-AA in non-football sports? Because that is exactly what the portal is doing. That and forcing higher salaries.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on March 21, 2023, 12:31:35 PM
Without the transfer portal, coach would have to bring in 4 freshmen this past season.
Adding them to our bench players, it would be lucky for us to win 5 games instead of  24.
The portal makes it more balance for the teams. The NCAA and NIT tournaments became more competitive.
Recruiting at the portal became more competitive and more challenging for the coaches.
I think our coaching staff is doing a good job. We shall wait and see who they are coming up with in the portal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on March 21, 2023, 12:42:01 PM
Look if we were not previously competitive without the the portal, just what makes you think we will be anymore competitive WITH the the portal going forward? It is not like we are the only team that makes use of it. If it was Calhoun (not the portal), then he should be just as successful without the portal. Portal is terrible.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on March 21, 2023, 01:16:55 PM
Look if we were not previously competitive without the the portal, just what makes you think we will be anymore competitive WITH the the portal going forward? It is not like we are the only team that makes use of it. If it was Calhoun (not the portal), then he should be just as successful without the portal. Portal is terrible.

I would say he was pretty successful without the portal with guys like DQ, Naz, Covington, and Akuchie and where the program was headed until COVID, injuries, and the portal started. 

So you're basically saying it's a bad thing the mid majors are competitive in the tournament?  And that YSU nearly knocked off Oklahoma State

I'm not going to sit here and brag the portal up, but it is giving mid majors more of a chance
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Wick250 on March 21, 2023, 01:47:00 PM
The transfer portal is the most radical change in the nature of college basketball since the beginning of the awarding of scholarships. Coaches that can navigate the new system (Calhoun) will thrive; coaches that are lost in this new process (that Green Bay guy who was fired during the season) will disappear. I don't like it but am glad our guy can function in this new world.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: chezmustache on March 21, 2023, 02:57:28 PM
     Agree Calhoun can function in this new environment and should maximize these abilities.  I would like to see the coaching staff strive more for defense and rebounding as opposed to an offense orientation.  Defense and rebounding travel well.  Offense left us vulnerable on off nights (to good defense and rebounding).  It was evident watching the Horizon League tournament and March Madness over the past two weekends that inferior teams that are quick, play defense and rebound have an advantage in pressure situations.     

     Calhoun has been average at best recruiting from high schools.  For every "DQ, Naz, Covington, and Akuchie" there was an Alex Vargo, Daniel Ogoro, Cheick Traore, Luke Chicone, and Michael Lucarotti.  Division 2 talents all.  Atiba Taylor and Jelani Simmons were borderline Division 1 players.  Now Will Dunn and perhaps Jacori Owens will join the list.     

     I do not like the portal.  However, we have a better opportunity to win with it than recruiting in the high schools.   
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YSUGO on March 21, 2023, 03:22:39 PM
Due to our economically challenged athletic Department. The portal and Calhoun are a gift from god! It has kept the stockpiling of players at the majors and gave the mids a fighting chance.  The bigs didn’t want another Butler and with transfer rules eased up were cherry picking good players and recruits.  The portal fixed it.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on March 21, 2023, 04:18:31 PM
I tend to agree with the above posters that feel coach C and the portal are a good mix.  Coach hit it out of the park in his 2022 portal haul and 2023 remains to be seen.  In sales you're as good as your last sale.

Having been at YSU for six years has given Calhoun time to build relationships with players and coaches.  I'm sure he's seen many college prospects at his camps he has annually.
I know he recruited Nelson out of hs and not sure on Cohil but he had a relationship with Dwayne and Brandon Rush while they were in high school.

I always hear that building relationships is the #1 factor in recruiting so I think coach C has a decent foundation laid down.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on March 21, 2023, 05:26:32 PM
I hope coach can get players from the portal that will be here for couple of years instead of one and done.
I hope a lot of power 5 bench players will join the mid majors by entering the portal to get more playing time.

Speaking on the question on whether coach C will stay after this year’s success, the FDU head coach just left to join Iona after just one year on the job. Of course, he took the team to the big dance and took down the one seat.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on March 21, 2023, 07:28:19 PM
I hope coach can get players from the portal that will be here for couple of years instead of one and done.
I hope a lot of power 5 bench players will join the mid majors by entering the portal to get more playing time.

Speaking on the question on whether coach C will stay after this year’s success, the FDU head coach just left to join Iona after just one year on the job. Of course, he took the team to the big dance and took down the one seat.

That whole dynamic with FDU is crazy.  If it weren't for the ridiculous rule that a school moving up to D1 can't be eligible for postseason, Merrimack would have made the tournament and Tobin Anderson wouldn't even have been considered for the Iona job. 

Instead FDU gets a play in game and wins, then takes down Purdue, and nearly pulled off another upset to the Sweet 16.  It got the FDU program a ton of exposure.  I did not know FDU had the smallest team in college basketball and didn't realize he took a 4-win team to what he accomplished in one year.  As I mentioned before, ironically Brandon Rush was at FDU last year. 

However, with that success now FDU is probably starting all over again.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 21, 2023, 08:46:40 PM
Portal New way of recruiting.   We seem to have adapted well and lets ride the success. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on March 21, 2023, 09:45:32 PM
News reported that Rick Pitino who had just took over St. John’s MBB team indicted that he would get rid of most of the players currently on the team because they would not fit into his style of play. Hopefully, Calhoun would be able to grab one of those guys when they enter the portal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ysuhoops24 on March 22, 2023, 01:15:51 PM
I hope coach can get players from the portal that will be here for couple of years instead of one and done.
I hope a lot of power 5 bench players will join the mid majors by entering the portal to get more playing time.

Speaking on the question on whether coach C will stay after this year’s success, the FDU head coach just left to join Iona after just one year on the job. Of course, he took the team to the big dance and took down the one seat.

That whole dynamic with FDU is crazy.  If it weren't for the ridiculous rule that a school moving up to D1 can't be eligible for postseason, Merrimack would have made the tournament and Tobin Anderson wouldn't even have been considered for the Iona job. 

Instead FDU gets a play in game and wins, then takes down Purdue, and nearly pulled off another upset to the Sweet 16.  It got the FDU program a ton of exposure.  I did not know FDU had the smallest team in college basketball and didn't realize he took a 4-win team to what he accomplished in one year.  As I mentioned before, ironically Brandon Rush was at FDU last year. 

However, with that success now FDU is probably starting all over again.

The whole dynamic of your post is wrong.

Anderson was a finalist for the job when Pitino got it.  To say he wouldn't even be considered is probably the furthest from the truth.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: guinpen on March 23, 2023, 10:47:54 AM

The NCAA issued an updated memo to college athletics programs regarding the waiver process for undergraduates who are two-time transfers.

“In all sports, four-year undergraduate student athletes who decide to transfer to a new NCAA school can generally be eligible to compete for the new school provided that they have not previously transferred and notify their current school by entering the NCAA Transfer Portal during their sport-specific transfer window,” the memo read.

Of course, that practice has been standard for a few years now, as college athletes became immediately eligible at their new institutions as a first-time transfer upon the inception of the transfer portal.

The memo continued, and noted the rules for athletes who did not qualify for the one-time transfer exception to become immediately eligible.

“A waiver process remains available for undergraduate student-athletes who do not qualify for the one-time transfer exception; however there have been changes made to the types of requests that will be considered.

“An undergraduate transfer waiver will only be considered for student-athletes who transfer for reasons related to the student-athlete’s physical or mental health and well-being; due to exigent circumstances outside the student-athlete’s control (e.g., physical or sexual assault or discrimination based on a protected class); or assertions involving diagnosed education impacting disabilities.”

The memo also said that waivers will no longer be approved just because the athlete’s participation opportunity at their former school changed, or even because of a coaching change or a change in the athlete’s scholarship status.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 23, 2023, 12:38:29 PM
So that means that the 1,000 or so athletes that entered the portal are exempt from that?  need clarification
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on March 23, 2023, 02:32:17 PM
I assume Exigent circumstances should include the lost of scholarship from the current school.
If that is true, we can only get players from the portal after they have completed 4 year of eligibility.
All others can only receiver waivers if they meet the exigent circumstances.
So, if we want to get players (from portal) who could play more than one year, they must receive waivers.
Am I on the right track?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 23, 2023, 02:39:23 PM
Double ET i have no clue if you are on the right track?  Anyone else who knows the portal pretty good? 
Need answers on this subject
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 23, 2023, 03:26:46 PM
Maceo Austin from Sharon Kennedy is transferring from Duquesne .   He hasn't played much though last 2 years due to personal issues.    See if he considers us or is it not worth the personal issues.  He is listed at 6-5 and was a fairly high rated recruit out of High school.  Averaged 7 points a game as freshman at Duquesne.  But seem to have fallen off of the map and now wants to make a comeback for a year.   Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Wick250 on March 23, 2023, 03:46:03 PM
I assume Exigent circumstances should include the lost of scholarship from the current school.
If that is true, we can only get players from the portal after they have completed 4 year of eligibility.
All others can only receiver waivers if they meet the exigent circumstances.
So, if we want to get players (from portal) who could play more than one year, they must receive waivers.
Am I on the right track?

Look again at the information that guinpen provided for us this morning. If a player from his original school wants to transfer to YSU, he could do so no matter how many years of eligibility he had remaining. Those "exigent circumstances" would only apply to a player who had previously transferred.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 23, 2023, 04:11:24 PM
Don't forget the extra year they get due to covid.   I believe they are using the 19-20 year as a guide.  That is why Rush is able to get an extra year
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on March 23, 2023, 04:27:31 PM
Maceo Austin from Sharon Kennedy is transferring from Duquesne .   He hasn't played much though last 2 years due to personal issues.    See if he considers us or is it not worth the personal issues.  He is listed at 6-5 and was a fairly high rated recruit out of High school.  Averaged 7 points a game as freshman at Duquesne.  But seem to have fallen off of the map and now wants to make a comeback for a year.   Any thoughts?

Yes.  His dad having a disabilty always wanted Maceo to play close to home and Duquense was a great option.   Maybe YSU will be a great fit too.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on March 23, 2023, 04:46:17 PM
It looks like one can enter the transfer portal if one has graduated from a 4 year institution and is going to another institution as a graduate student (and can obtain eligibility right away).

All others will require some type of waivers from NCAA.

The following article gives some additional information on the subject:


What are the NCAA Basketball transfer rules? A guide into the portal process
by Tristan Freeman 1 month ago Follow @hoopsnut351

The transfer portal has become more important than ever in NCAA Basketball. Here’s a look at how the process works and when to focus on it.

One of the most decisive topics in NCAA Basketball has been the transfer portal and whether or not it’s good for the game. But one thing is clear, it’s here to stay. Last season, around 1,500 players transferred at the D-I level alone, which is around four a team.


The rules have been all over the place from the NCAA, with many players transferring more than once, with most finding a way to get a waiver for various reasons that include being “ran off” from the previous school and not having a scholarship available, a coaching change, personal reasons and etc.

It’s been viewed as the “wild wild west” by pundits, coaches, and others, with calls being made to reign things in. And the NCAA, through various committees and boards, has come up with various changes to try and simplify the process for all.

New 60-day window

There’s a “window” for the time for players to officially enter the NCAA Basketball transfer portal for the different sports seasons, with winter athletes (basketball), having 60 days to enter after the conclusion of the regular-season/conference tournaments. So for the men and women, the deadline would be May 11th. Anyone who enters during this period will be able to become immediately eligible if it’s their first time transferring. Anyone who enters afterward will have to apply for a waiver, something that isn’t guaranteed by the NCAA. Grad students are exempt from this rule so veterans can move at any time.

Tougher requirements for multiple transfers

The NCAA has been trying to get out of the waiver business and has made it clear that anyone can transfer one-time without issue, as long as they’re academically eligible of course. But if they move a second time and aren’t a grad transfer candidate, they’ll have to get a waiver, which is going to have stricter requirements. Coach changing and personal reasons are likely to remain options but as the NCAA showed with West Virginia transfer Jose Perez, they’ll deny a player to get eligible if it’s not done in the offseason.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 23, 2023, 11:41:45 PM
I seen Mateo play in High School 1 time. I think he had 18 points and 11 rebs in only 30 minutes.
He was a man amongst boys it seemed like.  Remember he played one year with oscar S who plays for kentucky.
I went to see them play Because of that.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 27, 2023, 05:09:57 PM
Mateo committed to Slippery Rock for his final year to eligibility
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on March 27, 2023, 05:26:18 PM
Mateo committed to Slippery Rock for his final year to eligibility

Not sure if coach C recruited him but going to Slippery rock is a wtf to me.   Definitely would of contributed at YSU.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 27, 2023, 07:41:28 PM
According to verbal commits we did not recruit him
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on March 27, 2023, 08:09:30 PM
According to verbal commits we did not recruit him

My point meant to be if he had contact with him as a transfer.  I know from first hand they didn't offer out of HS thinking he would be higher profile than YSU.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on March 28, 2023, 10:22:10 AM
It looks like one can enter the transfer portal if one has graduated from a 4 year institution and is going to another institution as a graduate student (and can obtain eligibility right away).

All others will require some type of waivers from NCAA.

The following article gives some additional information on the subject:


What are the NCAA Basketball transfer rules? A guide into the portal process
by Tristan Freeman 1 month ago Follow @hoopsnut351

The transfer portal has become more important than ever in NCAA Basketball. Here’s a look at how the process works and when to focus on it.

One of the most decisive topics in NCAA Basketball has been the transfer portal and whether or not it’s good for the game. But one thing is clear, it’s here to stay. Last season, around 1,500 players transferred at the D-I level alone, which is around four a team.


The rules have been all over the place from the NCAA, with many players transferring more than once, with most finding a way to get a waiver for various reasons that include being “ran off” from the previous school and not having a scholarship available, a coaching change, personal reasons and etc.

It’s been viewed as the “wild wild west” by pundits, coaches, and others, with calls being made to reign things in. And the NCAA, through various committees and boards, has come up with various changes to try and simplify the process for all.

New 60-day window

There’s a “window” for the time for players to officially enter the NCAA Basketball transfer portal for the different sports seasons, with winter athletes (basketball), having 60 days to enter after the conclusion of the regular-season/conference tournaments. So for the men and women, the deadline would be May 11th. Anyone who enters during this period will be able to become immediately eligible if it’s their first time transferring. Anyone who enters afterward will have to apply for a waiver, something that isn’t guaranteed by the NCAA. Grad students are exempt from this rule so veterans can move at any time.

Tougher requirements for multiple transfers

The NCAA has been trying to get out of the waiver business and has made it clear that anyone can transfer one-time without issue, as long as they’re academically eligible of course. But if they move a second time and aren’t a grad transfer candidate, they’ll have to get a waiver, which is going to have stricter requirements. Coach changing and personal reasons are likely to remain options but as the NCAA showed with West Virginia transfer Jose Perez, they’ll deny a player to get eligible if it’s not done in the offseason.

The NCAA has offered graduate transfers for many years now. Think of it as a reward for doing what you are actually supposed to do in college .. go to school.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YSU1 on March 28, 2023, 12:08:50 PM
I do not know hoe many of you watched the D 2 Championship game.  several of those kids can play mid-major D1.  all you have to do is teach them how to play defense.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on March 28, 2023, 03:42:50 PM
Jacori Owens in transfer portal.  Another no-brainer.  Owens didn't get much playing time in his 2 years at YSU.

Two bigs gone so it looks like coach has to go out and bring in some beef.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on March 28, 2023, 05:35:26 PM
So far we have 4 scholarships avail.  Gotta be big men.  Portal???
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 03, 2023, 06:58:40 AM
Did Jacori withdraw his name from the portal?   cannot find his name in there anymore.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on April 03, 2023, 08:55:10 AM
Did Jacori withdraw his name from the portal?   cannot find his name in there anymore.

https://verbalcommits.com/players/jacori-owens (https://verbalcommits.com/players/jacori-owens)

I remember Coach Calhoun saying at the beginning of the season he was a work in progress.  Last year I thought he possibly had some potential, but it seemed like when he got in games this year he just looked lost and didn't have good mobility.  Didn't seem like he really progressed any so I figured he would be transferring.  He probably should be at D2 or D3
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 03, 2023, 10:03:47 AM

I remember Coach Calhoun saying at the beginning of the season he was a work in progress.  Last year I thought he possibly had some potential, but it seemed like when he got in games this year he just looked lost and didn't have good mobility.  Didn't seem like he really progressed any so I figured he would be transferring.  He probably should be at D2 or D3

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I saw him playing in those games. He had difficulties in getting into the flow of the game and in matching up against the opponents. Just like you said that he just looked lost.

He has not demonstrated that he is a D-1 player ( not sure if he is D-2 or D-3).

The question is, if he decides not to enter the transfer portal, will coach let him keep the scholarship.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 03, 2023, 09:28:13 PM
Myles Hunter says hasta la vista.   Did not think Myles would be in the portal since he was easliy one of the first subs off the bench getting decent playing time.   Coach C is going to need a big haul.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: guinpen on April 03, 2023, 09:39:20 PM
Did not expect that!
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 03, 2023, 11:57:22 PM
That is a surprise .  Unless he wants to go home to finish his career.   Now that is 3.  We need to get some portal players
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on April 04, 2023, 10:39:45 AM
I was hoping he didn't enter the portal, but I can't say I'm super surprised.  His PT decreased and there were games he hardly played.  Hope the same isn't going to be the case with Shemar. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 04, 2023, 10:45:44 AM
Shemar was injured and his playing time decreased because of it.  I think.  Lovelace will be a bigger loss if he decides to enter the portal.  They have until May 11th I believe. Keeping fingers crossed.  Don't see why he would enter the portal because he most likely will be a starter next year and average alot of points and rebs with more playing time
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 04, 2023, 11:16:41 AM
Shemar was injured and his playing time decreased because of it.  I think.  Lovelace will be a bigger loss if he decides to enter the portal.  They have until May 11th I believe. Keeping fingers crossed.  Don't see why he would enter the portal because he most likely will be a starter next year and average alot of points and rebs with more playing time


He will almost be sure for a starting position for next year. IMO, he will not be playing a lot of minutes (let alone starting) for the power 5 teams. I also do not see any mid major teams will guarantee him a starting position. So, he might just decide to stay put.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on April 10, 2023, 09:45:02 AM
Heard Imanuel Zorgvol, the 7 footer that was at NKU and entered the portal, was in Youngstown visiting YSU on Friday. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 10, 2023, 10:02:06 AM
Heard Imanuel Zorgvol, the 7 footer that was at NKU and entered the portal, was in Youngstown visiting YSU on Friday.


According to NKU’s website, they have two 7 footer on the roster.
He was a redshirt freshman last year and he didn’t play.
Without any meaningful statistic, I don’t have idea how good he is. They also have another 7’1 sophomore who average only 0.7 points and 1.4 rebounds a game last year.
So, why does a redshirt freshman enter the transfer portal with the guy ahead of him played without any significant stats.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on April 10, 2023, 10:16:49 AM
Heard Imanuel Zorgvol, the 7 footer that was at NKU and entered the portal, was in Youngstown visiting YSU on Friday.


According to NKU’s website, they have two 7 footer on the roster.
He was a redshirt freshman last year and he didn’t play.
Without any meaningful statistic, I don’t have idea how good he is. They also have another 7’1 sophomore who average only 0.7 points and 1.4 rebounds a game last year.
So, why does a redshirt freshman enter the transfer portal with the guy ahead of him played without any significant stats.

He played in 32 games last year averaging about 9 mins a game, 2.6 pts, 2.8 rebounds & .7 blocks
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 10, 2023, 11:20:08 AM
He averaged under 3 pts and 3 rebs in limited action.  Highlights is he had a dunk on us in tournament.  He scored 15 pts against UC Clearmont.  Look good. He tweeted highlights
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on April 10, 2023, 01:42:44 PM
Looks like Ziggy Reid is coming to YSU
https://twitter.com/ziggy_reid5/status/1645472544894468096 (https://twitter.com/ziggy_reid5/status/1645472544894468096)

He's 6'6 and played all 4 years at Merrimack, which jumped to D1 this year and won their tournament but was ineligible.  He's started the last 3 years averaged over 10 points a game including more than 14 last year in D1.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: JCC on April 10, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
Looks like Ziggy Reid is coming to YSU
https://twitter.com/ziggy_reid5/status/1645472544894468096 (https://twitter.com/ziggy_reid5/status/1645472544894468096)

He's 6'6 and played all 4 years at Merrimack, which jumped to D1 this year and won their tournament but was ineligible.  He's started the last 3 years averaged over 10 points a game including more than 14 last year in D1.

Merrimack has been D1 since 2019-20 season, so Ziggy Reid has 4 years D1 experience.  NCAA has a 4-year reclassification period when moving up to DI. That reclassification includes a 4-year period that schools are not eligible for the NCAA or NIT tournaments.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 10, 2023, 04:34:17 PM
Looks like Ziggy Reid is coming to YSU
https://twitter.com/ziggy_reid5/status/1645472544894468096 (https://twitter.com/ziggy_reid5/status/1645472544894468096)

He's 6'6 and played all 4 years at Merrimack, which jumped to D1 this year and won their tournament but was ineligible.  He's started the last 3 years averaged over 10 points a game including more than 14 last year in D1.
Do you guys think he has the capability to take us to the promised land next season? How does he stack up against our 4 portal transfers last season?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 10, 2023, 04:51:23 PM
Don't know much about Ziggy but four years at a D1 school  and an average of 14 point a game looks decent.   
6-6 235 is good too.  I'm thinking he's more of swing man despite his 235.  Took 156 3s last season and hit at 35%.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 10, 2023, 05:44:03 PM
Heard Imanuel Zorgvol, the 7 footer that was at NKU and entered the portal, was in Youngstown visiting YSU on Friday.



https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq3kMk4uceJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D

Is YSU the NKU big men rehabilitation destination ?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 10, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Ziggy highlights,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOWQSd19zpI&t=83s
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 10, 2023, 07:52:18 PM
Ziggy highlights,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOWQSd19zpI&t=83s

Looking at the home court of the D-1 Merrimack, I think anyone of our high schools in the Mahoning valley has a better basketball court than them. How could we even complain about Beeghly? Lol…just saying
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 10, 2023, 08:17:25 PM
He reminds me of Garret Covington and better.  nice pick up
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 10, 2023, 08:38:39 PM
The big guy from NKU we got had a dunk on YSU at NKU.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 10, 2023, 08:46:44 PM
Zorgvol averaged just 9 min a game as a freshman.  7 footer now gives us two who are 7 foot or taller.
Not a bad pickup.   Calhoun impresses me how he recruits the portal.  Lots of potential with the Zorgvol recruit.
Lots or upside.  Now we need to get Jason Edwards from the JUCO ranks will still have 3 years or eligibility left.
He was All American at Dodge city cc and scored 22 pts a game and his highlights are unreal.  WE need to sign him
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 10, 2023, 08:49:53 PM
He reminds me of Garret Covington and better.  nice pick up

 Reminds of a taller Ashen Ward.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Dmorton on April 11, 2023, 03:18:31 PM
Not quite following the thread!  Did we get another 7 footer!
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Dmorton on April 11, 2023, 03:19:37 PM
I know the one guy is 6'6!  But we also got a seven footer?  Am I reading that right?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 11, 2023, 03:31:40 PM
I know the one guy is 6'6!  But we also got a seven footer?  Am I reading that right?



YES.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq3kMk4uceJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 11, 2023, 04:04:00 PM
I know the one guy is 6'6!  But we also got a seven footer?  Am I reading that right?

From today’s Tribune/Vindy

https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2023/04/penguins-nab-2-transfers/

Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 33Y0 on April 11, 2023, 04:33:56 PM
Add another one to the list... we added EJ Farmer from Toledo. 6'5" 175

Averaged 6 points and 2 rebounds for Toledo this year.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 11, 2023, 06:56:51 PM
Add another one to the list... we added EJ Farmer from Toledo. 6'5" 175

Averaged 6 points and 2 rebounds for Toledo this year.

The transfers are quite different from last year, up to this point. Last year, all 4 transfers were either senior or graduate students. So far, 2 of the 3 transfers are sophomores.

The upside is that they will have 3 year of eligibility left. The downside is that they might not work out. Those 4 transfers from last year were experienced and proven starting players.
I got a feeling that next year could be a rebuilding year.

On a separate note, it is hard to believe we are discussing basketball in mid April instead of discussing football. With the Spring game in a few days, there has not been any information on the progress of the practice, let alone any promotion on the Spring game.
This is supposed to be a football town, Lol
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 11, 2023, 07:15:40 PM
Another good find in Farmer.  Not bad we also have 4 incoming from High school/ juco.  If anyone can do it Calhoun can.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 11, 2023, 07:39:58 PM
https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/e-j-farmer-260316?view=pv

HS video from 2 years ago.  Looks like he has a nice stroke and he's a lefty.   Not a big frame guy but looks athletic.  Hopefully his best basketball is ahead of him.  Coached offered him out of HS so Calhoun is maintaining contacts.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 11, 2023, 09:01:30 PM
Corrections on Farmer's highlights are from his sophomore year which was four years ago.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 12, 2023, 07:28:42 PM
https://twitter.com/FSSAthletics/status/1646248141413404672


Christian Kirkland signs NLI.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 12, 2023, 10:15:15 PM
Christian is 6-8 and plays like lovelace.  High school out of Philly area
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 23, 2023, 02:37:18 PM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4594111/dj-burns

New transfer that should give experience and size.


Shot 57% from the field and 77% at the ft line.   He attempted zero 3 pointers.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 23, 2023, 02:43:07 PM
Also add Brett Thompson to the roster.
https://www.wkbn.com/sports/calhoun-youngstown-state-land-4th-from-transfer-portal/
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5107612/brett-thompson
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 23, 2023, 03:49:52 PM
Excellent should bring needed depth.  Let's see who the starters will be besides Rush.  Should have some size.  My guess is starters will be Rush and Thompson guards. Immanuel Z the 7 foot player from NKU.  Ziggy Reid and DJ Burns.  EJ Farmer off the bench and who knows who else.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 23, 2023, 04:17:47 PM
"DJ,

I hope you stay but if you choose not to, you have been an exemplary ambassador for the University and an absolute fan favorite.

I wish you nothing but success in all of your future endeavors.

Thank you!"


This was a quote from the Murray state message board.   Sounds like we're getting a good one.

What a day for the Penguins with two commits with D1 experience.   Hopefully coach can put togethe a team that develops chemistry which is happening probably to most teams with the portal.

That puts YSU at 12 players and if David Wilkersons signs it will mean they're done.   Wilkerson still shows as a commit on verbal commits site which to me isn't  clear since all the other earlier frosh and transfers already signed.


Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 26, 2023, 04:01:08 PM
Tanner Holden to the portal.   Would look great in the red & white.

Gut feeling would be Toledo.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 26, 2023, 04:29:32 PM
Ray Dennis from Toledo put his name in portal.  He was the Mac POY.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 26, 2023, 04:30:48 PM
Maybe tanner holden goes to Toledo
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: gbs20 on April 27, 2023, 08:42:45 AM
This is Holdens second transfer. The immediately eligibility rule would not apply. Although with the NCAA you never know.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on April 27, 2023, 09:18:36 AM
According to Columbus newspaper, he could transfer back to Wright State (his original school before transferring to Ohio State) and regain immediate eligibility.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 27, 2023, 10:58:53 AM
Why would he go back to the school that he left for the big time and got no playing time?  Sounds like a mistake to me on Holden part.  He should have never left in the 1st time.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 27, 2023, 11:04:06 AM
Tyreek Smith in portal from Oklahoma State.  He is a big body and scored 13 Points against us.  Maybe we can go after him.  Though he a multiple time transfer
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 27, 2023, 11:05:31 AM
Scratch that he just committed to SMU
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Dmorton on April 27, 2023, 11:47:54 AM
The guys we are getting are not one and done this time as Seniors! Maybe we can finally build on our success!
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 28, 2023, 03:23:48 PM
What is going on with verbal commits?   it doesn't show the most recent transfers anymore. 
Did we lose them or what?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on April 28, 2023, 03:30:45 PM
Never mind    Just needed to log back into my computer,  Now it's their
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 01, 2023, 02:07:48 PM
Shemar has entered the portal.. geez
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Double ET on May 01, 2023, 05:09:41 PM
Shemar has entered the portal.. geez

Not really a surprise, he didn’t get much playing time toward the end of the season. Coach must be looking for another point guard. With him gone, we don’t have one.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 01, 2023, 05:15:45 PM
Shemar has entered the portal.. geez

Not really a surprise, he didn’t get much playing time toward the end of the season. Coach must be looking for another point guard. With him gone, we don’t have one.

I'm pretty sure Brett Thompson who transferred in is a point guard.   Shemar started a lot of games at YSU so I wish him the best.  I always thought his size worked against him.
Coach needs to go get some depth at pg.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 01, 2023, 07:12:42 PM
We need to sign Jason Edwards of Dodge City CC.  He is a PG and got 22 pts a game and we are heavily recruiting him.   He has lots of offers so its going to go down to the wire when he makes a decision.  He it BETTER than CoHill.  Check out the video of him.  Amazing
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 01, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Jason Edwards if 6-0 and video of him is dynamite and he looks better than CoHill did at this point of his career and he was 1st team Div 1 JUCO.   Hard to get though he as 25 or Div 1offers and we are one of them. 
We shall see.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 01, 2023, 08:08:04 PM
YSU has only three players returning from last years roster.

1. B Rush
2. J Lovelace
3. J Irwin

I'm sure YSU is all in on Jason Edwards but I might take the field on this one.   Coach C is no dummy so I'm sure he'll have a point guard sooner than later.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mudclods on May 02, 2023, 10:49:07 AM
Can't say I'm super surprised by Shemar...I was hoping at this point he was staying.

He went from starting at the beginning of the year to not even playing by season's end.  It seemed like after he got snowed in in Toronto and missed practice his playing time was never the same.  Then add in that injury after that that kept him out, but when he returned he barely played. 

I agree it seemed like his size was an issue at times, but I did like watching him running the point and he seemed to have a high iq.  I'm guessing too he figured with all these incoming transfers the same thing was probably going to happen again this year. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on May 03, 2023, 09:28:10 AM
Dump the Portal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Wick250 on May 03, 2023, 10:40:21 AM
Dump the Portal.

Philosophically, I agree with you. This portal has wrecked college sports as we have known them. College rosters now resemble those of minor league baseball teams: here today, gone tomorrow.

However, since this is the new reality and we can not change it, be grateful that Calhoun has mastered the new rules. Let's hope that his second batch of transfers can mesh together into a cohesive unit.  That is not guaranteed.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: guinpen on May 03, 2023, 09:41:06 PM
Dump the Portal.

Philosophically, I agree with you. This portal has wrecked college sports as we have known them. College rosters now resemble those of minor league baseball teams: here today, gone tomorrow.

However, since this is the new reality and we can not change it, be grateful that Calhoun has mastered the new rules. Let's hope that his second batch of transfers can mesh together into a cohesive unit.  That is not guaranteed.

I agree
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YSUGO on May 06, 2023, 03:57:45 AM
College basketball was wrecked  before the portal.  Actually I feel  the portal is what’s helping programs like YSU have a chance with slim recruiting and coaching salary budgets.  With the kids able to transfer now and now not have to sit out this the equalizer. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Dmorton on May 06, 2023, 12:40:37 PM
Coach C could do what he is doing at YSU with or without the portal, but correct it is more of an equalizer!
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on May 08, 2023, 08:46:14 AM
It is not an equalizer unless they restrict which schools can use it. Otherwise the portal only does what they want it to do in the first place ...allow power programs to trade players between themselves. Why does everyone think that a mid-major program is even a thought in this?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Dmorton on May 08, 2023, 11:24:41 AM
It may be, but Fla International and San Diego State are more on par with the Power boys now! And Saint Peters scared the hell out of everyone not too long ago. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YSUGO on May 08, 2023, 04:51:34 PM
The portal and the recruits we received got us to where we are.  It got us to be the number 1 seed.  We did that ion a budget of peanuts.  Think of that.  It accelerated our rebuilding the program.  It took us out of the laughing stock of basketball. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Dmorton on May 08, 2023, 06:41:18 PM
Yep! And believe me, they were laughing at YSU, and wanted us out of the league!  But remember who left, Butler, UIC, Loyola, Valpo!  Can you imagine a good YSU team with those teams in the league still along with NKU, Cleveland St, Wright State, Milwaukee and Green Bay!  I'd say that would be pretty respectable!
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 08, 2023, 07:08:22 PM
Better things to come in 23-24.  Watch!!
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 08, 2023, 07:09:57 PM
I can never complain about the portal as a YSU fan.   All five starters transfered in to the program as Juniors or grad seniors which gave us our first ever conference championship.   Coach C seems to be mixing in a few hs recruits and maximizing the portal.   It's a daunting process and not sure there is a perfect combination especially when the frosh have to sit their first and possibly second year as the experienced transfer step in.

I'm still curious if YSU is done or still looking to sign one more.  It looks like as of today YSU has 12 either signed or committed.   We'll probably see a press conference in the next couple weeks .
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on May 10, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
two things:

1. We do nothing different than anyone else when it comes to the portal & all of our portal players are already gone. It is useless.

2. YSU was NEVER recruited to the conference for men's basketball. Just the opposite. They wanted a week men's team.. What we were recruited for (and we failed to provide for quite some time) was a good woman's team. The conference was sick of UWGB winning the conference and doing nothing in the NCAA's. YSU had  good coach and program. Also YSU promised to complete all title IX requirements. We have no chance at being a pivotal program in MBB, but we do have a chance at being pivotal in several women's sports. Our Women's Divers were were great and the NCAA was just about to rule that swimming & diving would be separated. In men's sports, we are a football school. NOTHING ELSE. I mean we have more football tailgaters than basketball fans & most fans pay nothing to get in.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 10, 2023, 10:03:49 PM
I totally disagree 1-AA, Totally with your comments.  Men's basketball and football can be successful.  Portal helps men's team so much.  Remember this past season?  We won the regular Men's championship and not any of the women's basketball team ever won it last time I checked.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on May 11, 2023, 09:41:24 AM
Don't know if there really is an answer Pride; I guess we will have to see how the portal works out. The only way YSU out-performs our conference members (in the portal) is if we stay at the top of the conference and don't have another embarrassing 1st-round loss in the Horizon tourney.  It will still boil down to what YSU can give recruits (legally) to keep them. and that is just not something we have had resources to do. I still believe we need to keep the focus on FB and women's sports.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 12, 2023, 07:08:39 AM
Last time I heard we got a big donation from a donor bringing the NIL collective to around or over 300k for men's basketball only.  Just saying
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 14, 2023, 07:20:33 PM
From my count we have 11 players on Scholarship and Fryda a walk on       We need 1 more correct?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 14, 2023, 09:25:06 PM
From my count we have 11 players on Scholarship and Fryda a walk on       We need 1 more correct?


D1 basketball = 13 ships so we have two openings.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 18, 2023, 11:43:43 PM
Looks like we added depth at point guard.    I think from checking he transferred from NKU a year ago and it looks like he didn't play this past season or I can't find any info.

Three year starter at NKU.



https://twitter.com/straight_hoopin/status/1659363248917954561/photo/1



https://nkunorse.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2021-22#individual


https://nkunorse.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/bryson-langdon/5092
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 19, 2023, 10:12:29 AM
Small guard for sure.  He didn't do much against us when he played though..    From the looks of things he has only 1 year left I believe.  Am I correct?   Did average over 10 pts a game a a sophomore at NKU.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 19, 2023, 01:37:59 PM
Small guard for sure.  He didn't do much against us when he played though..    From the looks of things he has only 1 year left I believe.  Am I correct?   Did average over 10 pts a game a a sophomore at NKU.

Sounds correct.   Must be decent if he was a 3 year starter at NKU.   Wondering if he's better than Shemar or aboutt equal ?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 19, 2023, 05:41:08 PM
If you search his name you can find out good stuff about him and some video of him.  Seems like a good player too me.  Small but effective and can really pass the ball.  Seems like we have a connection with NKU players now.
I'm excited for the season to begin in November
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 19, 2023, 09:05:01 PM
Looks like we have another one.




https://twitter.com/JaylenBates1/status/1659681969741914113/photo/4

https://famuathletics.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jaylen-bates/3729
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5107411/jaylen-bates



Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YSUGO on May 20, 2023, 05:23:48 AM
Was 2nd best players for Rattlers was 1 of 9 transfers brought in the Year before.  The top player transferred earlier in April.  Looks like he is a high energy player.  The RATTLERS. only won 6 games last year but the played a brutal non conference schedule I think. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 20, 2023, 08:15:31 AM
He has 7 rebounds a game and 9 puts.   Calhoun likes the portal for sure.   Of our 11 newcomers I believe that only two or three are straight out of High School.  One being 7-3 and I believe that the one from Philly area is 6-8.  We are going overseas I hear in the summer .  Not sure where.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 20, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
He has 7 rebounds a game and 9 puts.   Calhoun likes the portal for sure.   Of our 11 newcomers I believe that only two or three are straight out of High School.  One being 7-3 and I believe that the one from Philly area is 6-8.  We are going overseas I hear in the summer .  Not sure where.


Every 4 years the NCAA allows for an over seas trip.  YSU went to the Virgin island in August of 2019 so they're most likely going this summer.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 20, 2023, 12:59:27 PM
Where we going though?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on May 21, 2023, 03:06:57 PM
He has 7 rebounds a game and 9 puts.   Calhoun likes the portal for sure.   Of our 11 newcomers I believe that only two or three are straight out of High School.  One being 7-3 and I believe that the one from Philly area is 6-8.  We are going overseas I hear in the summer .  Not sure where.
  Once you start using using the portal, you have not choice but to keep using it, as it takes over your program. It certainly has taken over ours.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Wick250 on May 21, 2023, 05:18:34 PM
He has 7 rebounds a game and 9 puts.   Calhoun likes the portal for sure.   Of our 11 newcomers I believe that only two or three are straight out of High School.  One being 7-3 and I believe that the one from Philly area is 6-8.  We are going overseas I hear in the summer .  Not sure where.
  Once you start using using the portal, you have not choice but to keep using it, as it takes over your program. It certainly has taken over ours.

I agree. Calhoun has all but abandoned player development in exchange for instant winning. Enjoy this while you can.  When Calhoun leaves, whether for West Virginia or someplace else, what will be left behind for YSU basketball?  Probably not much.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 21, 2023, 05:56:45 PM
He has 7 rebounds a game and 9 puts.   Calhoun likes the portal for sure.   Of our 11 newcomers I believe that only two or three are straight out of High School.  One being 7-3 and I believe that the one from Philly area is 6-8.  We are going overseas I hear in the summer .  Not sure where.
  Once you start using using the portal, you have not choice but to keep using it, as it takes over your program. It certainly has taken over ours.

Maybe .   He brought in 3 frosh and 1 juco this year.   IF they come back the following season along with Lovelace,Farmer,and Zorgvol that is 7.  If he then brings in 4 frosh again he's at 11 and only 2 can come from the portal.
The big if is if all 7 return and the other big if is whether he brings 4 from the hs ranks.   

Coach C made an extra 100k in his new contract and it's a no-brainer getting upper classmen in the portal with guys like Cohill,Green,Nelson,and Rush helped put that cash in his pocket so maybe you're right that getting portal experienced players is his best option for that next big job or another raise.

The portal and Calhoun equated to Youngstown's first D1 conference championship and most wins in YSU D1 history so I'm going sit back and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 21, 2023, 06:50:32 PM
UCFPengbuck you hit the nail on the head.  Portal is the way to go now leaving high school players kinda in the dust.  Whatever it takes to win at YSU i am for it.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 21, 2023, 09:24:21 PM
UCFPengbuck you hit the nail on the head.  Portal is the way to go now leaving high school players kinda in the dust.  Whatever it takes to win at YSU i am for it.

I still think it's important to bring in quality hs players and I'm sure Calhoun does too.  It's tough since all kids want playing time but it's hard for freshmen to compete vs portal experienced upper classmen.   Lovelace was an exception who got a lot of minutes as a true freshmen while we've seen many who are stuck on the bench and eventually transfer.       
I don't think  this is isolated to just YSU.   I think a lot schools and especially mid-majors are trying to to figure how manuever through the right frosh/portal combination.
Bottom line is winning and winning puts more fans in the seats and more money to the university.

I'm probably naively hoping we can get to the point where we don't see the mass exodus every season and see more continuity but that's probably won't happen.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 22, 2023, 10:36:18 AM
YSU has 3 freshman i believe for next year.   I think the best of them could be the kid from Philly named Christian Kirkland and he is listed at 6-6 to 6-8 depending on various sites have him listed at and plays like Lovelace.  Hope he pans out.
Title: Re: Transfer Porta
Post by: YSUGO on May 22, 2023, 11:27:34 AM
I love what Calhoun was doing with using the portal.  It evens the playing field some due to our lack of money for recruiting and what we pay for coaches.  Hell even his mentor uses it down in WV.  Old school as we know is dead .  Kids aren’t going to wait to play. And even if they do they can leave anyways.  Kids aren’t even staying at the blue blood schools.  It’s the portal and NIL.  Embrace it.  It got us an NIT bid.  Mike Rice, Dan Peters never achieved that and they were decent coaches
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: IAA Fan on May 22, 2023, 11:40:49 AM
I noticed that basketball players have become more like football players. Planing to sit out their freshman year (or at least play below the maximum allowable amount). However, what I expect is an  increasing amount of frosh jumping into the portal with these small collegiate resumes, which will soon be the standard path. All the portal has done (for MBB) is shortened Collegiate careers & started kids seeing playing time earlier. This might be a good thing at some point, I mean the intellect of the average athlete is not exactly at the academic scholarship level. We will just have to accept that fewer and the fewer college players will be around for 4-years (in any sport impacted by the portal). Then there will be the large chunk that jump after only a year. Then when they increase the amount of money these kids are paid, college ball will just become a farm system. I would love to see fans more involved in players educations. We should see their schedules, attendance and grade sheets each quarter, just as we see their playing stats now.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 22, 2023, 01:14:30 PM
All points are on target with the portal. Remember it is here to stay and looks like we have adapted to it quite well.  Mixture of freshman, Juco, and portal will be needed each and every year to survive.  It is the new way mid-majors survive in this day and age.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 22, 2023, 04:49:30 PM
Nice article on new penguin Brett Thompson.


https://www.midmajormadness.com/2023/5/22/23731977/brett-thompson-reflects-on-long-journey-that-leads-him-to-youngstown-state-after-tennessee-tech
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 23, 2023, 10:06:48 AM
Sounds like Thompson has a lot of baggage following him around.  Good thing we only have him for 1 year because he seems to not stick around at one place too often
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Penguin Nick on May 23, 2023, 10:28:40 AM
From YsuPride:  "Sounds like Thompson has a lot of baggage following him around.  Good thing we only have him for 1 year because he seems to not stick around at one place too often"

Anyone who constantly transfers this much has issues.  It seems that every time things don't go his way he looks for the easy way out and transfers. Why isn't he staying at Ten. Tech?  When the transfer portal was ok'd, I thought you could only transfer once for "free?"  After that one time you had to sit out a year.  Now I read that this has changed.  This is garbage, there is no way this guy is getting an education and most likely he is not good enough to play in the NBA, but I'm sure through the years he has been told that he is good enough.  There is no way all the classes he has taken in all his years in higher ed. will transfer.  When his eligibility is up he will have no degree.  Another reason to overhaul the transfer portal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YSUGO on May 23, 2023, 12:45:51 PM
So did anybody read the kids bio at Tech. Played at a couple of junior colleges Covid happened and then
Other college sd they were dropping Basketball. The kid looks like
he came up in a tough area in Oakland and didn’t have much benefit of having support system or have parents that can afford to have him play AAU or whatever which can cost a lot.  The Kid thought he was done after Covid.  But it looks like he is driven and doesn’t want to give up. I would take 5 of those guys instead of some spoiled kid. We don’t know what agreement he had with the Tech coach.  I’m  sure  Calhoun did his due diligence.  Plus maybe the NiL we offer is better. He might have to support his family.  You guys are already labeling him  before even the paint is dry.   

What I see is a baller who  wanted to come to play here.  This wouldn’t have happened 5 years ago.  Welcome aboard Mr.  Thompson!!!

Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 23, 2023, 03:39:07 PM
I'm with YSUGO on this one.   There are a lot of players who have been to multiple schools .  Just off the top of my head last years starting point guard Bryce McBride went to two jucos,Eastern Michigan,and YSU.
Amari Davis who played for Wright State last season started at Green Bay transfered to Iowa State and is now at the University of Tampa.
Only know about Brett Thompson's through the article and I'm sure he's had some tough times but seems to keep on perservering.   Glad he's a penguin.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 23, 2023, 05:25:34 PM
I fully agree with Penguin Nick.  This kid had a GPA of 1.9 and originally didn't qualify to play at tech until he took online classes to get him to play and be eligible.  He seems by the video like a quality player as he averaged  12 pts a game and started.   The question is why would he transfer then from Tech.   Mind boggling.  I'll take him for a year then he is done i guess.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 23, 2023, 05:33:24 PM
We probably have had the top transfer class come in besides the two Wisconsin teams.  They both did well too.
Detroit recruited well as they have tons of big men.  Only thing is if we can get them to all mesh with Rush and Lovelace
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 24, 2023, 03:03:38 AM
Myles Hunter signed with Tampa.  Thought he would go to  Div 1 school.   Best of luck to Myles.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on May 25, 2023, 05:33:28 PM
Shemar Rathan-Mayes signed with UNCW a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on June 01, 2023, 03:30:02 PM
Some one must not have stuck.   Thought this guy was 2024 but it says 2023.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs7Q1j9Rwn1/?hl=en

https://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/pennsylvania/pittsburgh/central-catholic-high-school21/dante-depante

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARos59P2gTs
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on June 01, 2023, 08:06:08 PM
Never knew we were recruiting him.  Good shooter from the looks of the videos.  We need that.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on June 01, 2023, 08:22:25 PM
Dude has moves with the dribble we need.  Comes from a big school in Pittsburg.   Nice
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on June 02, 2023, 02:21:24 PM
No inside info but thinking based on numbers juco David Wilkerson MIGHT not be in this recruiting class.  He was the only one that didn't sign that I know of.

Thinking that Depante might not of had any other d1 offers.  I could be wrong but found nothing on any recruiting info.   His biggest adjustment like many freshmen will be strength and speed at the next level .   I see him like Lucarotti/Vargo type.  Best basketball is 2/3 years from now but guys don't hang around like they used to and develop since the portal is available.   
Hope I'm wrong and sees the court early but it's a deep experienced roster ahead of him and he has to know that.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: goodnews on June 02, 2023, 03:05:40 PM
The kid pushed off every defender on the way to the hoop.  I thought I was watching the NBA.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on June 02, 2023, 08:33:20 PM
He had offers from Duquesne, St Francis(pa) and Robert Morris and YSU.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on June 02, 2023, 10:36:20 PM
He had offers from Duquesne, St Francis(pa) and Robert Morris and YSU.

Decent offers.  Wonder why he was such a late commit.    Pride where did you find those offers ?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on June 03, 2023, 07:48:27 AM
Verbal commits type in his name and now has North Florida and Radford but no Ysu, Duquesne or St Francis.  Just what I heard researching the kid.. seems like a real sleeper kinda reminds me of that kid from Oakland from like 10 years ago..cannot recall the name though
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on June 03, 2023, 03:46:25 PM
I saw Depante had offers from N.Florida and Radford.   So he had a few d1 offers.

I'm hoping coach has a press conference this week to announce and go over his 11 new players.   Last year this happened in April but this season getting everyone to sign took longer.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on June 03, 2023, 09:21:00 PM
Travis Bader was his name.  sharp shooter and 90% plus free throw shooter #1 in Oakland history
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on June 11, 2023, 04:42:45 PM
I made a prior post and stated that juco transfer might not have signed with YSU.   I was 100% wrong.  He is getting local nil endorsement.

https://twitter.com/GuinCollective/status/1667562750627700736
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ucfpengbuck on June 12, 2023, 04:28:05 PM
A little article on the new roster.


https://ysusports.com/news/2023/6/12/mens-basketball-mens-basketball-adds-nine-for-2023-24-campaign.aspx
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on June 12, 2023, 09:42:18 PM
Interesting.   With Rush and Lovelace back and walk on freda we will have 15 players.  Most of them are seniors.  Same as last year.  Hopefully we can gel quickly.  I hear we are going oversea this summer.  Anything that can help team gel we can use it.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: YsuPride on June 12, 2023, 09:44:59 PM
Walk on is Tommy Fryda.  not Freda