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Well, go guins
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Quite a few empty seats.
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Do they practice throwing the football during the week? Serious question.
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Yikes the passing does not look good.
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Can’t read the defense and can’t throw the ball so far in this game.
He will not have much time looking for receivers.
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Crap….
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Our QB supposed to be a triple threat QB.
He can’t seems to be able to run, read or pass.
Why is he in there? Our play calls didn’t help.
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This offense is just horrible
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Offense is terrible. Put in the 2nd string QB now.
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Our QB supposed to be a triple threat QB.
He can’t seems to be able to run, read or pa$$.
Why is he in there? Our play calls didn’t help.
Correct on all points
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How did he miss Jaleel on that 3 and 19?
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They figured out our one dimensional offense and our weak pass defense after a single series of downs.
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Piss poor players. No real talent
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Score will be 55 to 0
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Yeah. Defense is not much better
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No first downs and behind by 14
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Not recently it hasn't been.
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It is getting ugly. With this offense, we can’t catch up
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Pitch the ball back 5 yards to go 1 yard. Horrible
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why no time out there?
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Lol. This is what it looks like when a high school principal who only got the job because his buddy donated millions to the university is leading a bunch of D2 and D3 coaches. Embarrassing...
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3 points
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Just plain dumb
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Why in the hell do we lineup 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage when the ball is on the 1/2 yard line.
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There are some serious problems with some, if not all, of our assistant coaches.
Way too many mistakes
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hope the D had time to figure some things out
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This soft defense really sucks
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This is really bad. Sick of wasting my Saturdays watching this crap
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Nice…..
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hope the D had time to figure some things out
I guess not
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If we have a quick 3outs, they will score on us again before half time.
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21 to 3, time to finish the yard work.
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#8 is a beast for you. give him 50 carries
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We sure are taking our time here!
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Yes I don’t think Trussell and Company realize just how much of his fan base ihas completely turned away from this team
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I'm on 50 yard line.
zero urgency on ysus part. really weird.
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These coaches fu**ing suck. This is an 8th grade offense.
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This is horrible time management. This coaching staff is really bad
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Crenshaw needs benched.
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Really embarrassing
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Put the backup in... Experience for him.. we not going to win this game.
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Crenshaw simply is not "the" guy! This game is over please put in the kid from Salem and see what he can do.
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The OC needs to be fired for not doing his job if he does not make a QB change starting 3Q.
Crenshaw did not run in the first half. In that case, we might as well put MD in. He can hand the ball to #8 just as well. Who knows, he might even be able to complete few passes.
Give him a chance……give us a chance
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No Idea why they do not have him run, thought that was one of his strong points.
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I’m not so certain that getting rid of the offensive coordinator is the solution. We are executing so poorly we have no way to know. However there have been the correct calls made in this game on our offense, we just haven’t been able to convert. Look at that Screen perfect call Crenshaw rolls out what does he do he sees the guys you know I’m coming right at him does he pump it to try and slow him down first or anything else like that no does he even throw it out of bounds no he tries to connect with it and he ends up going down for a 5 yard loss . don’t blame your coordinator for that . that was the right call at the right time just very poorly executed.
On defense we have to stop being fooled by player changes. We did the same thing for years at Youngstown it’s nothing new they are still going to run their plays just going to be with different people maintain. However it wasn’t until the very last drive of the half that I even saw a single bison player lined up more than 6 yards off the line of scrimmage. I mean they clearly do not fear Crenshaw and his right arm one single bit. And I wouldn’t either he’s not done anything to let you think otherwise
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Good sign, new qb.
Illegal lineman down field on a pass play?
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He led us to a score.
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Not only that, he took time off the clock. NDSU didn’t score in the 3rd Q. His possibility of passing open up the running game. That’s why I didn’t understand why we kept Crenshaw in the game.
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What ever happens in this game he needs to start next week for aure
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21 to 6 in 4th.. we got them right where we want them. Lol
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21 to 6 in 4th.. we got them right where we want them. Lol
Yes. A quick td and on side kick…….it is all part of our game plan lol
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stupid penalty
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Interesting that he has run more than Crenshaw
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Exactly. He has more running yards than Crenshaw.
If he would only have started this game………..
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Nice try on the kickoff
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I think we held our own. Could have been worse. We need to start Davidson
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Makes you wonder what the game would have been had Mitch started the game
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This QB situation is on the Coach. You cant convince me that they don't see issues in practice. If not, then we really have problem. I'm afraid there isn't a D1 QB on the roster.
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He was not perfect; two throws should have been picked. but there seemed to be some excitement in the offense when he was in.
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MD will improve with more playing time. Crenshaw didn’t improve much since his first start. I don’t know if anyone on this board has thought he is the guy (last year and this year).
For some reason this year, he has not been able to run or read the defense. Without the ability to complete passes, he effectiveness has greatly diminished.
Just my 2 cents…
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This QB situation is on the Coach. You cant convince me that they don't see issues in practice. If not, then we really have problem. I'm afraid there isn't a D1 QB on the roster.
He might be freezing up in games. Who knows. ButD should have been picked off. Maybe they need to fix his footwork first.
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Bottom line the following has to change:
Recruiting
Coaching
Adjustments
We keep getting further away from relevance.
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Our conference had a year of tape on Crenshaw. The flaws are obvious. Poor arm mechanics and footwork and not able to make his reads quickly to make an efficient decision. Davidson is our only option and he has issues too. It bums me because this becomes a wasted year. Qb is so important. We don’t have the enough talent for a game manager like Davidson. But Crenshaw isn’t effective in this offense. Not sure he would be effective in any D1 offense. Don’t know how we can recruit 8 qb’s and they all suck.
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Bottom line the following has to change:
Recruiting
Coaching
Adjustments
We keep getting further away from relevance.
We are getting better. It's going to take time. We are heading in the right direction. Wish people felt this way when Pelini totally F-d up out recruiting.
We are getting good players. We look 100% better on defense. Need some help at QB and the OL. And need more depth.
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The coaching staff has developed NO ONE. The difference makers are primarily from the portal. I understand that's part of recruiting in 2022 but take away those guys and its a different football team. Don't get me wrong WE ARE BETTER but there was no where to go but up!
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I am not going to trash Crenshaw. He is in an impossible situation: a running quarterback who is absolutely NOT ALLOWED TO RUN! Unbelievable and pathetic!
Here is a history lesson that a few of you might have heard about. In 1975, Narduzzi's first season, he installed a veer offense that required his quarterback to run the option repeatedly. His quarterback was Cliff Stoudt, the traditional passer who had led the team to our first playoff appearance in 1974. Naturally, it was an abysmal failure. Narduzzi could not win until he found his veer quarterback in 1977.
This is the same freakin' thing but in reverse order. Allow Crenshaw to run 20 times. Have him run many options with Jaleel. Have him pass off play action and not from the pocket where he is inept. If in the spirit of Narduzzi you are stupid enough to insist on traditional quarterback play, then put in Davidson.
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Wick you are right. Good coaches coach to a players strengths and adjust to it. If Crenshaw is a Michael Vick wannabe then do what Virginia tech did build the offense to his running abilities and dummy the offensive scheme up. He was told to read one side of the field and no more than look at his first two options then RUN.
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Who knows what is going to happen at the QB position our our Offensive play calling? Both need significant improvement. But I remember being on the sideline at the Fargo Dome and watching us get beat with the forgotten QB inserted to start that game, Hunter Wells. We lost but we got our footing and made the National Championship game. Hope DM can do the same this year. Remember that our run game scares everyone. So the pass game should be there. Somehow our wide outs are rarely open. Our O line is lacking, but improved from last year. Hopefully our coaches are up to the job and get our pass game going to take the heat off our run game. As a YSU fan I am hoping for the best for us.
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We need to give Mitch a try at least a few games under his belt. Would have been nice if he could have started this game it could have been much different. Oh well looks like another losing season at 5-6,
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To be fair, Mitch should have had 2 pick 6's. He was lucky
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To be fair, Mitch should have had 2 pick 6's. He was lucky
But he didn't, let's hope that he learned from them
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Sorry got drunk after....
YSU actually played NDSU pretty dam tough, much respect for you..
If you run #8 & get him 4-5 screen passes or swing passes he will put up 200+ next week and beyond.
Defense isn't too bad, you won't see a better running team than ndsu.
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Lol. This is what it looks like when a high school principal who only got the job because his buddy donated millions to the university is leading a bunch of D2 and D3 coaches. Embarra$$ing...
Totally agree!
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Lol. This is what it looks like when a high school principal who only got the job because his buddy donated millions to the university is leading a bunch of D2 and D3 coaches. Embarra$$ing...
Totally agree!
Since when has football become rocket science? Football is 90% about recruiting a d leadership, 5% strength and conditioning, And 5% on schemes and play calling. But recruiting and leading a team is the main thing. Most coaches that are the best at X's and O's can't recruit (Pelini).
The recruiting is the most important part of the job and a former HS principal should have the skills to relate to the kids he's recruiting.
We are a project. So he missed at QB and he's got a problem at OC. He will learn and get it fixed. Luke Fickle at Cincinnati buit his program the same way. But it took him several years. Winning isn't going to come overnight after what Pelini did to the recruiting and how he left the cupboard bare.
Don't let your expectations get out of line. I think Phillips is the right guy for the job, and I've heard the kids love him.
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Lol. This is what it looks like when a high school principal who only got the job because his buddy donated millions to the university is leading a bunch of D2 and D3 coaches. Embarra$$ing...
Totally agree!
Since when has football become rocket science? Football is 90% about recruiting a d leadership, 5% strength and conditioning, And 5% on schemes and play calling. But recruiting and leading a team is the main thing. Most coaches that are the best at X's and O's can't recruit (Pelini).
The recruiting is the most important part of the job and a former HS principal should have the skills to relate to the kids he's recruiting.
We are a project. So he missed at QB and he's got a problem at OC. He will learn and get it fixed. Luke Fickle at Cincinnati buit his program the same way. But it took him several years. Winning isn't going to come overnight after what Pelini did to the recruiting and how he left the cupboard bare.
Don't let your expectations get out of line. I think Phillips is the right guy for the job, and I've heard the kids love him.
Some interesting points!
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We need to give Mitch a try at least a few games under his belt. Would have been nice if he could have started this game it could have been much different. Oh well looks like another losing season at 5-6,
So far we’ve only lost to teams we should have lost to, we’ll find out how good this team is in the next stretch of games
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Lol. This is what it looks like when a high school principal who only got the job because his buddy donated millions to the university is leading a bunch of D2 and D3 coaches. Embarra$$ing...
Totally agree!
Since when has football become rocket science? Football is 90% about recruiting a d leadership, 5% strength and conditioning, And 5% on schemes and play calling. But recruiting and leading a team is the main thing. Most coaches that are the best at X's and O's can't recruit (Pelini).
The recruiting is the most important part of the job and a former HS principal should have the skills to relate to the kids he's recruiting.
We are a project. So he missed at QB and he's got a problem at OC. He will learn and get it fixed. Luke Fickle at Cincinnati buit his program the same way. But it took him several years. Winning isn't going to come overnight after what Pelini did to the recruiting and how he left the cupboard bare.
Don't let your expectations get out of line. I think Phillips is the right guy for the job, and I've heard the kids love him.
Well said. Everybody remember that Phillips inherited Crenshaw. His recruits at QB are freshmen and unknown commodities.
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We need to give Mitch a try at least a few games under his belt. Would have been nice if he could have started this game it could have been much different. Oh well looks like another losing season at 5-6,
So far we’ve only lost to teams we should have lost to, we’ll find out how good this team is in the next stretch of games
Agreed. Everybody in this league will lose to NDSU by at least 13 points, probably more inside their gym. This North Dakota game will tell us a lot. Good offense, not very much defense, not a good track record of winning on the road. We shall see.
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Before waving the white flag on this team because of a halfway respectable loss to NDSU, let's judge them on their next slate of games...
vs. North Dakota (3-2)
vs. Indiana State (1-3)
@ Western Illinois (0-5)
vs. South Dakota (1-3)
@ Illinois State (2-2)
@ Missouri State (2-3)
vs. Southern Illinois (3-2)
We have a fairly decent stretch where we SHOULD win some ballgames... I see no reason why we can't win maybe 3-4 of those. Now, if they completely lay eggs against the likes of Western Illinois, Indiana State, and South Dakota... then panic and start calling for some BIG changes. But let's see what happens during what should be the easy part of the schedule.
And for the record... not a Crenshaw fan either.
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I see MD is pictured on the advertisement for this week. Does that mean he gets the start?
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I see MD is pictured on the advertisement for this week. Does that mean he gets the start?
On his radio show at 5:00, Phillips would not reveal his choice for qb this week. He did state that Crenshaw had been hampered by a hamstring injury that he sustained in the summer. Which begs the question: if he physically can not run, why is he out there?
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Before waving the white flag on this team because of a halfway respectable loss to NDSU, let's judge them on their next slate of games...
vs. North Dakota (3-2)
vs. Indiana State (1-3)
@ Western Illinois (0-5)
vs. South Dakota (1-3)
@ Illinois State (2-2)
@ Missouri State (2-3)
vs. Southern Illinois (3-2)
We have a fairly decent stretch where we SHOULD win some ballgames... I see no reason why we can't win maybe 3-4 of those. Now, if they completely lay eggs against the likes of Western Illinois, Indiana State, and South Dakota... then panic and start calling for some BIG changes. But let's see what happens during what should be the easy part of the schedule.
And for the record... not a Crenshaw fan either.
man. easy 5 win streak there IF you find a way to get #8 in the flats & use screens for him I get him the ball 25-30 times a game deebo samuel style.
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You know, people are going to not agree ...
But I think we blew the best opportunity to beat NDSU that we could have asked for. They are playing well below par, but we could not capitalize on offense. That last FG does not count, but we should have been able to score 24-points in that game. I mean our secondary is inept and the Bison could not get the ball out there. The Bison defense lined up not more than 6-yards off the LOS, for the entire first half because our QB was incapable of throwing the ball and our OC was not willing to put him under center to establish the run and play-action. We scored 14-point s with a QB that does not even get much (if any) practice all week. We keep the Bison out of the end-zone the entire second half. Two dropped INT's that we threw directly into the Bison defender's hands. I see three more challenging games on our schedule, starting this Saturday. UND, ILS and SIU are superior teams to what we played last Saturday. We will also struggle with SMS and S. Dakota.
We need to stop looking at last Saturday's game as the "marker". We played an average football team. The difference is that the Bison coaches will learn and not make these same mistakes again. Our staff will continue to do what it has done for over a season now. Just so frustrating. This is the point where I was ready to toss Tressel as well. Tressel did well with Duzzer's players & then he gave us just what we are seeing now. They still renewed his contract and we are all glad they did. Maybe the same thing is here with us now and we just have to be patient?
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You know, people are going to not agree ...
But I think we blew the best opportunity to beat NDSU that we could have asked for. They are playing well below par, but we could not capitalize on offense. That last FG does not count, but we should have been able to score 24-points in that game. I mean our secondary is inept and the Bison could not get the ball out there. The Bison defense lined up not more than 6-yards off the LOS, for the entire first half because our QB was incapable of throwing the ball and our OC was not willing to put him under center to establish the run and play-action. We scored 14-point s with a QB that does not even get much (if any) practice all week. We keep the Bison out of the end-zone the entire second half. Two dropped INT's that we threw directly into the Bison defender's hands. I see three more challenging games on our schedule, starting this Saturday. UND, ILS and SIU are superior teams to what we played last Saturday. We will also struggle with SMS and S. Dakota.
We need to stop looking at last Saturday's game as the "marker". We played an average football team. The difference is that the Bison coaches will learn and not make these same mistakes again. Our staff will continue to do what it has done for over a season now. Just so frustrating. This is the point where I was ready to toss Tressel as well. Tressel did well with Duzzer's players & then he gave us just what we are seeing now. They still renewed his contract and we are all glad they did. Maybe the same thing is here with us now and we just have to be patient?
What? An “Average” FCS team can’t put up 300 yards of rushing against a P5 team… that’s what’s the Bison did the week before they played us…
But yes hopefully this is the downturn before this staff pulls it together, I think this week will be extremely informative
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You know, people are going to not agree ...
But I think we blew the best opportunity to beat NDSU that we could have asked for. They are playing well below par, but we could not capitalize on offense. That last FG does not count, but we should have been able to score 24-points in that game. I mean our secondary is inept and the Bison could not get the ball out there. The Bison defense lined up not more than 6-yards off the LOS, for the entire first half because our QB was incapable of throwing the ball and our OC was not willing to put him under center to establish the run and play-action. We scored 14-point s with a QB that does not even get much (if any) practice all week. We keep the Bison out of the end-zone the entire second half. Two dropped INT's that we threw directly into the Bison defender's hands. I see three more challenging games on our schedule, starting this Saturday. UND, ILS and SIU are superior teams to what we played last Saturday. We will also struggle with SMS and S. Dakota.
We need to stop looking at last Saturday's game as the "marker". We played an average football team. The difference is that the Bison coaches will learn and not make these same mistakes again. Our staff will continue to do what it has done for over a season now. Just so frustrating. This is the point where I was ready to toss Tressel as well. Tressel did well with Duzzer's players & then he gave us just what we are seeing now. They still renewed his contract and we are all glad they did. Maybe the same thing is here with us now and we just have to be patient?
What? An “Average” FCS team can’t put up 300 yards of rushing against a P5 team… that’s what’s the Bison did the week before they played us…
But yes hopefully this is the downturn before this staff pulls it together, I think this week will be extremely informative
Correct. Bison are a top 3 FCS team no matter how you look at it.
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You know, people are going to not agree ...
But I think we blew the best opportunity to beat NDSU that we could have asked for. They are playing well below par, but we could not capitalize on offense. That last FG does not count, but we should have been able to score 24-points in that game. I mean our secondary is inept and the Bison could not get the ball out there. The Bison defense lined up not more than 6-yards off the LOS, for the entire first half because our QB was incapable of throwing the ball and our OC was not willing to put him under center to establish the run and play-action. We scored 14-point s with a QB that does not even get much (if any) practice all week. We keep the Bison out of the end-zone the entire second half. Two dropped INT's that we threw directly into the Bison defender's hands. I see three more challenging games on our schedule, starting this Saturday. UND, ILS and SIU are superior teams to what we played last Saturday. We will also struggle with SMS and S. Dakota.
We need to stop looking at last Saturday's game as the "marker". We played an average football team. The difference is that the Bison coaches will learn and not make these same mistakes again. Our staff will continue to do what it has done for over a season now. Just so frustrating. This is the point where I was ready to toss Tressel as well. Tressel did well with Duzzer's players & then he gave us just what we are seeing now. They still renewed his contract and we are all glad they did. Maybe the same thing is here with us now and we just have to be patient?
What? An “Average” FCS team can’t put up 300 yards of rushing against a P5 team… that’s what’s the Bison did the week before they played us…
But yes hopefully this is the downturn before this staff pulls it together, I think this week will be extremely informative
Correct. Bison are a top 3 FCS team no matter how you look at it.
That "average" football team that beat us last Saturday would defeat half of the Big Ten. And the only thing similar about North Dakota and North Dakota State is the fact that green is the major school color for both institutions. Football 101: one team plays defense and the other team does not play much defense.
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That "average" football team that beat us last Saturday would defeat half of the Big Ten. And the only thing similar about North Dakota and North Dakota State is the fact that green is the major school color for both institutions. Football 101: one team plays defense and the other team does not play much defense.
Then how this team that could supposedly defeat half the big-10 could not defeat a bottom-feeder in the PAC-10 ...a weaker conference? Arizona is a bottom-3 team in the conference and I was honestly surprised when NDSU did not defeat them. The old Mountain teams and Big Sky clubs have defeated PAC-10 squads on multiple occasions ... this should have been one of those. How could a coaching staff that has #8 completely figured out (and shut down) over the past 2 years, suddenly giving up 150 ground yards to him?
I am tired of looking for things to be upbeat about. We lost a "winnable" game.
Lake, I agree about getting the ball out into the flats, but not with #8. Despite his small size, #8's strength is reading gaps. Counter screens maybe, with a WR by his side to keep him from being targeted. This is the MVFC. we need to have someone 6.5' tall, 250+ lbs and a wingspan of a basketball player or wrestler out in the flats. It is called a Tight-end. Where are ours? Although I have seen much improvement in this area; a good opposing OC is going to throw the ball to our outside all game.
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That "average" football team that beat us last Saturday would defeat half of the Big Ten. And the only thing similar about North Dakota and North Dakota State is the fact that green is the major school color for both institutions. Football 101: one team plays defense and the other team does not play much defense.
Then how this team that could supposedly defeat half the big-10 could not defeat a bottom-feeder in the PAC-10 ...a weaker conference? Arizona is a bottom-3 team in the conference and I was honestly surprised when NDSU did not defeat them. The old Mountain teams and Big Sky clubs have defeated PAC-10 squads on multiple occasions ... this should have been one of those. How could a coaching staff that has #8 completely figured out (and shut down) over the past 2 years, suddenly giving up 150 ground yards to him?
I am tired of looking for things to be upbeat about. We lost a "winnable" game.
Lake, I agree about getting the ball out into the flats, but not with #8. Despite his small size, #8's strength is reading gaps. Counter screens maybe, with a WR by his side to keep him from being targeted. This is the MVFC. we need to have someone 6.5' tall, 250+ lbs and a wingspan of a basketball player or wrestler out in the flats. It is called a Tight-end. Where are ours? Although I have seen much improvement in this area; a good opposing OC is going to throw the ball to our outside all game.
The game NDSU lost is still early in the season.
They have a superior offensive line. Their line will get better as the year rolls on and they will end up at the top of the conference (I predict)
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NDSU dominating Arizona running the ball, but the defense lost our NFL DT week before & too many missed tackles. combined with our OC brain farting the last 2 possessions that shouldve been a 31-17 NDSU win.
Well Youngstown didn't look too bad to be honest, I've seen many teams come into fargodome and lose that game 52-10. but YSU held serve and was tough running the ball
good luck to you